Levels


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What are good E levels for effective feminization? I'm on sort of an experimental regimen. I don't take a typical AA (I take dutasteride) and I do topical E 8mg/g (2 clicks daily on my balls) with 2mg oral sublingual. My levels are ~600pg/mL estradiol and ~50 to 100ng/dL testosterone total, ~4 to 10pg/mL free. I've been on this current regimen about 3 months and idk if anything is changing except I have little boobies now and my d*ck hurts when I get hard (which is rarely now).

  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    600 e is very high (within normal) and there's no reason that i know of to be taking subl with topical e. t is fine.
    you are fine just relax, it's been 3 months which is like no time at all, this can take years

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      oh cool, right when I'd given up hope of a reply :>
      I need to refresh more often ig

      and alright, I'll be more patient. Thank u

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    pls someone

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Between 400 and 800 is good!

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Your testosterone level is still way to high. 50-100ng/dl is bad, you want less than 30ng/dl.
    I assume the 600pg/ml is a trough right? The lowest point of the day?
    You should be suppressing testosterone at that level, so something is up, really should start an AA to fix your T levels. 7

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are levels of 16 testosterone & 150 estrogen bad?

    I'm eight months in, & my E levels are lower than anyone else I know on HRT

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      150 isn't bad, and your T is suppressed. 200pg/ml troughs are what you should shoot for, but 150pg/ml isn't bad at all. Doing pill's I suppose?

      Oh and for anyone doing monotherapy, you should shoot for at least 250-300pg/ml as that's where most people can go to suppress there testosterone.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ye
        50 MG Spiro, 6 mg estradiol pills a day
        Probably gonna start progesterone soon

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          A 150pg/ml trough for 2mg's 3x daily sublingual isn't bad. Maybe if you held it in your mouth longer you could raise it a little, but no huge need if you rather not.

          If you start prog, do 200mg's rectally a day. It's a proper dose.

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Isnt that t quite high mine stays around 20

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >have had possibly over 700 for 2 years

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      700 troughs? Injections? It's not the worst, nothing will fuck up a transition like under dosing.
      Over dosing is like hardly a problem in comparison.

      How are you boob's though?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        i worry more about brain function and other possible unseen issues
        >boobs
        tiny
        e-boi tits
        spiro when starting for 3 mos 5 years ago may ahve fucked me forever

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          how would spiro you?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            *fuck you?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            It doesn't, not in regards to breast growth. At least any evidence supporting that it does is really baseless. And the mechanism behind why it might hasn't been explained.

            So dont worry about that.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              There's tons of trans women complaining being stuck having cone tits due to taking spiro and cone tits seem to be specifically spiro related phenomenon. You don't hear or see cypro users complaining about this.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Spiro doesn't mess your boobs up, but high e levels can stunt or lower growth possible.
          But having high levels like that isn't a problem, esp not through injections.

          Wont cause any brain issues, or body ones. In fact it gives you a better mood and more sexual desire.
          It's just not the best for breast growth or fat patterning, but 700 isn't even a crazy level, and 5 years it's less important.
          Like I had 3500pg/ml for 3.5 years lol.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            mine were normal wehn i was on pills for 2 years
            so idk why i got no tits
            i was 2 years pills and cypro (got lactation so worried about porolactinoma in my head still even if i dont now) and then moved to lena ev

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            High levels don't stunt breast growth, but spiro very likely does. Prog may also stunt if taken too early. Both are anecdotal, but there's so much evidence that I'd be careful with them.

            Remember that full boob growth needs around 10 years just like it does in cis women. It's a slow process and you could very well end up staying tiny for years. There are some genetic luckshits who get full boob growth in few years, but it is rare and has nothing really to do with HRT regimen. Most people don't seem to realize this.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              I wouldn't worry about spiro, as the studies backing that are insanely weak, and stunted growth seems to occur across all regiments. No good theory either why it could do that either. Very high dose monotherapy has some merit for stunting breasts growth, with possible mechanisms at least, and anecdotes.

              One reason younger trannies tend to get larger boobs is because their growth factors are much higher, they dramatically lower leading up to and after 25. But regiment can make a difference.
              I'd avoid spiro personally, but not in fear of issues with breast growth.

              There's tons of trans women complaining being stuck having cone tits due to taking spiro and cone tits seem to be specifically spiro related phenomenon. You don't hear or see cypro users complaining about this.

              Trannies complain about that all the time despite whatever regiment they are using. I've seen many complain on spiro/cypro/bica/injections. All of it.

              There's no such thing as overdosing unless you purposefully do it and go over 1000, but anything under that is fine.

              It's just that it's important to never go lower than 200pg/ml and even then 150 maybe enough for full feminization, but it will feel shitty like low energy, low libido thing. In my experience 300-500 is the perfect zone for good energy, libido and feminization.

              >300-500
              I'd agree.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        There's no such thing as overdosing unless you purposefully do it and go over 1000, but anything under that is fine.

        It's just that it's important to never go lower than 200pg/ml and even then 150 maybe enough for full feminization, but it will feel shitty like low energy, low libido thing. In my experience 300-500 is the perfect zone for good energy, libido and feminization.

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