Was the whole learn-to-code thing a psyop all along?
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Was the whole learn-to-code thing a psyop all along?
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11 cents?
cost of electricity I suppose
GPT 4 costs 20 per month so I am assume he somehow split this into the amount of generations you are allocated which is limited
or just open up 100 accounts and card it with 100 different cc’s
The code doesn't work, I guarantee it.
It might work with a small amount of pajeet tier tinkering, and giving that 90% of coders are just hacking together what they found from stackoverflow, it is still useful for many things
right, he should pay the "very good" dev $5k and put the two implementations head to head with a load test
put his money where his mouth is
>If it's not in a Home Depot parking lot it doesn't work
We know
It might. But idk how a non coder would use it.
Like if a google engineer asked someone for a quote, they say 10k 1 month, and then they ask chat exactly how to program it, in what language, exactly the specifications they need, and make a few slight alterations to plug it in to the program, it could work pretty well. But to do all that you need to be good.
I do fear that it can get so good that massive layoffs come when chat does 90% of mundane code in 10 seconds and then some top level programmer finishes it, peer reviews it. Killing entry jobs.
But at the same time it’s already allowing more products to be made. With ai art getting better I could see probably a lot more shit being made, but also some more good stuff too. Hopefully I can make it before the job apocalypse comes.
It might grab deprecated code due to being 2 years behind but it works 95% of the time which is enough to fix on your own if you aren't a brainlet.
- nagger check
>pretend you are writing code in 2023:
Nah. I've seen examples and the code is messy as fuck. Good luck finding the error
still can't build me a taylor series or properly strip newton's method from google without somehow fucking up the code
lmao cope. I don't know about GPT-4 but GPT-3 code works most of the time, if it doesn't you ask it to try again and you troubleshoot the code along with it. I don't know shit about coding and I'm using chatGPT to finally make my dream vidya.
No doubt some lowest common denominator coomer shit right? That's all you homosexuals do is masturbate 24/7 right? That shit is your entire life
It’s difficult to imagine this working unless you put in enough time to essentially be a programmer. A programmer just not good at unity or whatever so chat calls a bunch of methods you don’t know for you.
But ya you’re right, it’s going to help people program above their level. It’s given me the confidence to make a game. I can program but I’m not some genius at every aspect of it. That’s where chat comes in.
I think that's the point. It's not like calculators, or even automated based computations completely decimated the field of maths, it just made the realm more accessible for those that otherwise didn't think they had the mind for it, navigate it a little easier
this tbh, I'm a cs student that's barely scraping by (took my first two programming classes before chat gpt existed so I know how to get into the right mindset) but it's much easier to debug now
I have bad news for you if you're barely scraping by on the introductory courses...
this is my 4th course and it's on system programming
go write a kernel, hotshot
>the code totally works bro
>I don't know how to code though
Retard
All these doomers don't fucking understand software development. The actual coding is like 20% of the job. The hard and most painful part is the planning and design and architecture which as far as I know they can't do with AI yet.
It doesn't have to plan anything. It just builds based on your input.
That's my point. You want me to build you a website I can. But when you do software development it's never that simple. You are given restrictions. 3rd party apps it needs to be compatible with. What database(s) are you going to use. You need to build those. You need some queue messaging system? Data format? A million different things and infrastructure you have to plan which is the hardest part. Maybe this can help a tiny shop make some rudimentary ERP system for their bakery. However low/no coding is already a thing for many years that already has been doing this for a while.
>builds website
>run into compatibility issue
>builds work around
Idk, man. Seems doable for someone small. Larger businesses maybe not yet.
That was my point it won't work for large companies servicing thousands to millions of people because software design isn't just make code it's make code that can deal with that scenario efficiently.
Again the issue here is many of you don't realize there is little actual coding in development. That's the small part. Once you map everything out the code comes naturally.
I work at some financial department of a billion dollar organisation. And my job is so easy (check someone's income, do some high school math, write a letter) it's a miracle it hasn't been automated yet. But the IT department cannot even keep the current systems running. I need to work with dozens of old programs that don't really work together. And everything is constantly broken or offline.
I get an email when something is down. When I arrive at work I am usually greeted by like 6 of such emails that the IT department is fixing something I need.
My job should have been automated 15 years ago. But I don't see my job getting automated.
Some places just decide not to bother upgrading from legacy software which seems like your case
Many do this. They're usually ran by penny pinching boomers who don't want to spend the money on an outside team to rewrite whats necessary and don't want down time for their company unless necessary to implement a large change and then the bug chasing that happens after it goes live. So they keep their IT team going crazy pushing constant patches but they probably have an extreme turnover rate on any IT guy worth a damn since they see all the red flags fast.
They occasionally replace one shitty system for something worse.
I think the added problem is that the biggest an organisation is, the more bureaucracy it has.
If they want to change something, they have people from across the country in dozens of offices trying to agree on something. Which never works.
>biggest
bigger
Ok, builds what then - an entire app & api server?
With no design? That'd be sub-jeet tier.
>"ideas guy" descides to cut out the "tech guy"
>"ideas guy" feeds the code generator chatbot a 1001 contradictory requirements, forgets 50 edge cases
>hires consultant to fix it
>It just builds based on your input.
So do indians and all of their code is broken and requires a white man to fix.
This. Good Software devs do not code. Coding is low level labor.
>repeating the same argument ad infinitum
>muh special coders club WAGMI while the world burns
this is a special kind of stupid
Ask GPT to create a SAAS business and to give you its earnings, since it can do what devs do and it has “a.i”
i admit that programmers have a skill set that is relatively rare, but the same argument could be applied to xerox machine repairmen, as more businesses go digital, people can get by without scanners and opt for other technology. technology, with increased productivity, necessarily reduces the demand for labour inputs. our economy is designed on coercing labour inputs for monetary exchange (society gets labour, individual gets consumption power), if we dont address the decreased demand per unit of labour as individual labour units become more productive, we are basically using magical thinking to hope that displaced workers “find other employment,” as economists lie to us and say always is the case with technlogical uemployment.
correct, the core problem is decreased demand per unit of labour. as human labour inputs aproach zero, this problem will no longer be a can kicked down the road, because long before than the peasants will just burn down the robot factories. CSfags conveniently ignore this
>I don't know shit about coding and I'm using chatGPT to finally make my dream vidya
lel. that's... nvm goodluck
It's mixing quaterninons, direction, and constraints
But really most humans would explode too
My experience is that it has the correct thrust to it but beyond very simple programs I've never seen it produce something I didn't have to make amendments to myself. It's definitely impressive how as you improve the prompt and give more and more detail the output significantly improves, even if you think your prompt is near perfect to begin with.
Kick ass anon!
brainlet post
Both sets of code will be written by ai. The developers just charging $5000 to fine tune the code.
The current ChatGPT kept spitting out code that didn't work so I'd be surprised if GPT 4 is much better
I've had retards tell me that GPT3 can't even do [simple task] so I go and try it myself, and voila I get exactly what they said they couldn't. Trash in, trash out.
it's also fun asking it to do what it's not supposed to
can it start a fire or make me a sandwich?
GPT-4 is unironically better than 99.9% of jeets and 90% of white programmers. Imagine GPT-5. It’s legitimately a concern as of this week.
It does work but it's like building a model out of LEGOs. You have to know how each piece works and how they go together which ironically takes years of time and effort to be able to do.
It’s not that it doesn’t work. It’s that you need a dev to implement the code. Is GPT going to order you servers and deploy it? Also it doesn’t take gpt3 three hours to write code, more like 3 minutes, so he’s not telling the entire story.
Haven't used it for common languages like javascript/css/php etc. but recently used it for C/AL and it routinely gave me shit that had completely incorrect syntax. I'd also have to constantly remind it to not veer off randomly into other languages. It definitely helped me solve a problem that would have taken me much longer to figure out on my own but I had to set a list of parameters constantly when conversing with the thing. As an example, it would be basically me asking for a solution to the problem but then telling it to solve the problem without using the list of wrong shit that it had previously spit out. If C/AL resources weren't extremely limited compared to other languages I probably wouldn't have used it. That said, the thing would absolutely mindfuck a clueless pajeet because if you aren't able to tell when it's giving you blatantly wrong shit you'll just assume it's supposed to work because "the bot can't be wrong" and then just waste your time banging your head against a wall.
Programmers think their jobs are so hard for some reason… lmao
Define what a microservice is fool.
AI can’t do security it’s for shit given a zero day. Let alone from git hub Scrub code.
If someone anything open source in back end and expects it not to be hacked the next day with no upkeep they are retarded.
I can toss around tech terms all day but it doesn’t make me more then a shit for brains ass hole…
Your not going to win against someone who knows what they are doing.
calm the fuck down there ese, go make some tacos or something
Okay, and what are you going to do when the 80%+ of programmers who are automated out of their jobs are now competing with you for your niche industry?`
Shut up and go make some new social media app, homosexual.
It mostly works, especially if you know how to ask. It is very impressive and useful if you know how to compile and stich code together.
Business Analyst here. It writes deployable code (and test classes, praise Jesus) for me. It is helpful if you know enough to 'guide' it, otherwise you get super generic stuff. But if you how to ask typical Developer questions, it's pretty good at getting you over the hump in simple situations.
>test cases
> Potatonagger not familiar with Unit Tests
But yeah, it will also write 'test cases', Shamrock.
that's a coom face. i was cooming. testing is AIDS.
Ahh, my bad. Slainte!
>It is helpful if you know enough to 'guide' it, otherwise you get super generic stuff.
I think this is the big thing, it's going to be like what a truck is to a horse, you're still going to have to "steer" the AI and put it back on track when it deviates.
Really the naggers saying that this shit might work for small programs but falls apart for complex ones are missing the point. Humans can't even write intricate and complex programs based on worded prompt, they build it over the course of a few weeks or even years, and go back and forth a bit when they hit a pitfall.
AI if it gets good enough will be like that. You'll have prompters that will push it onto a task, they'll review the work, reprompt with more suggestions. Have set "meetings" where they flatten out ambiguities and pitfalls with the AIs working on the project.
It won't totally automate the job, but it'll certainly make shit go 10x faster. The big one coming is when you have Sys-Adm AIs watching System Administrators managing major systems, and slowly learning all the ins and outs. That shit will get automated faster than Software Developers. If I was a System Administrator I'd be way more worried than a Codenagger.
>The code doesn't work, I guarantee it.
often the code it spits out doesn't work, so you paste the error message and it debugs it and corrects the code until it does work
GTP-4 seems to be propaganda.
GPT 3.5 couldn't. GPT4 code works. It will only accelerate from here.
Ubi?
Culling?
Which way white man?
Why not both?
change the way the economy is set up to put people before profits. the ohio train derailment is a perfect example of how sick this monetary system actually is, that is to say insofar as this system prioritizes profits over people, people will be subject to icreasing indignities
Make your own economy bigot!
You're on the right track, but you're missing the stop.
Corporations are incentivized by the us government to not value human life.
The Ohio train being a good example. Let's look at it from their perspective.
1. You've caused enough damage that you're going to receive the max fine regardless of what you do.
2. The courts count on the clean-up costs covering the difference.
3. Everybody is going to sue you. It'll be class action and it'll drag on for at a minimum a year.
The only punishment they receive is fiduciary
Making the poison unavoidable by making it airborne is going to save them a ton of cash on clean-up and any extra costs incurred via lawsuit is either covered via insurance or kicked down the road where extra costs can be planned for in the annual. Tbh they might as well and I can't say I would act any different. There is absolutely zero reason for accountability or even ethics in the current system.
TL:DR It's not the corporations, it's the regulators and court systems that don't value human life. You are a dollar figure. Not even a gold standard dollar. Just a trashy fiat us dollar.
>where you won't necessarily be fired if you're already in the industry but there will just not be any new hiring of fresh graduates
And also a total stagnation of wages. Their wages won't go down, but they'll just stop keeping pace with inflation until many of them are quite literally on the blue collar level.
This is true and actually it makes me think about the tradie meme
Perhaps the reason why trades make so much money now compared to white collar jobs isn't because they suddenly massively increased in value, but rather because white collar wages stagnated relative to tradie wages and its only noticeable on the tradie end
The real blackpill is that if you removed government regulations, this would've happened a lot faster. A good portion of white collar careers are bottlenecked by legal requirements of a degree.
Pharmacists are an example I always go to. If it wasn't for insurance laws and the Medical Industrial Complex, they would be making the same wage as a carpet layer. On the local pharmacy level, they do absolutely nothing cognitively hard, they just package pills. They don't need to know drug interactions and conflicts like they used to because their big computer has software running that detects that for them.
you are probably right
0if we weren't ruled by hateful israelite, I might have an answer
Since we are though I can assume nothing good
UBI = we accept our trans-human AI chipped, hive mind brains and the population does need to collapse.
Free will = 90% population decline over the next 30 years. The remaining 10% of the population will be spiritually developed enough to use AI to benefit humanity (we’ve never made it that far).
when chat gpt 5 programs itself i will be worried. the problem is not the value of skill sets, the problem is that human life plays second fiddle to economic production. in other words, profits are more important than people, like in the movie falling down when the main character is no longer “economically viable.” so the problem is taking the system and homo economicus for granted because this paves the way for the zeitgeist of human indignities being the status quo
It’s called the ai hilarity (holy shit I typed singularity and it autocorrect to ai hilarity) for a reason, we will hit the event horizon and AI will program itself to be a super-multi-virus, it will infect all. It will take over everything. That is actually preferred to the people in charge with a slave mind ai that they can use to make their computers even worse and less user friendly.
I can’t even use my windows computer, every thing about it throws me into a rage.
Man I was hoping for a good story about the AI hilarity
I don't give a shit about the economics anymore
We can get rid of the politicians, israelites, and the shitskins and go back to being white men again
the economics is the only thing that matters, how resources are distributed has a non trivial affect on human life, its not a computer game
>~~*Idaho Republicans*~~
Doubt
yes, no job is safe. the increase in productivity is already at the point where people only need to be working half, if that, the amount they are to enjoy their current quality of life. With technological advancements this will continue to be reduced because the amount of stuff actual people will need to do to support all of us will shrink and shrink.
This is a good thing, because there is no reason for anything bad to happen to anyone from the fact that nobody needs to work to provide everything society needs anymore. If anyone tells you otherwise, shoot them, they are just upset their mechanism of control has stopped working.
you would be right if people were actually compensated based on what they actually accomplish (productivity) rather than being paid to burn clock. since the latter is true, it invalidates your post.
in other words people are going to have to work the same or more hours because they dont actually receive the rewards of their increased productivity, and this is actually alrrady happening, massive productivity gains and people sre working multpile part time jobs just to survive
no i covered that part when i said to shoot people that tell you otherwise
good luck enjoying your increased productivity behind bars
no need to shoot anyone while society is still stable enough to enforce laws like that
the people in charge will inevitably prefer to face revolution than just submit to the new paradigm, and then its everyone all at once that will shoot them
Ah but now we have the privilege of working the same amount of time and sending the extra wealth to Israel and Sub-saharan Africa. Soros says this will help the world!
>nobody needs to work to provide everything society needs anymore
When shoving crayons in your nose, try to stop before they hit your cortex and limbic system.
The eco cultists will see how more and more people are essentially worthless economically use it as an excuse to liquidate the "redundancies."
Madness and depravity are the only things awaiting us on this path.
complete bullshit. anything beyond short, easy to find examples that anyone can copy and paste from a google search is going to be utter garbage.
AI will become more refined, my friend.
Everyone thought is was a bullshit novelty 3 years ago and now look at it.
>and now look at it
A bullshit novelty?
I welcome the jobless techies of the future into our culture of unemployed 38-year-old rage
Chat gpt was pretty good at solving minor software problems with general solutions, until jeets and sv-trannies realized they'd all be replaced by a machine; and so began the era of homosexuals and shitskins dumbing down the AI in order to keep their jobs.
How do I talk to Chat GPT? I am not a techie
Download the app from their website, retard.
Is it spyware?
Ya. Better not use it.
just how you type messages here, register an account and it requires a phone and an email so be cautious
but it's good for learning as it is correct 90% of the time, it's kind of like a tutor
use the browser version not the phone app
its really good at certain things. I recommend spending the first several hours trying to figure out how it works. You can type to it like a normal person.
What it tells you will be linguistically sound and amazing (its really good at translating for example), but its actual facts might be entirely fabricated. It often cites books that dont even exist, for example.
Perhaps it is a portal into another dimension where those books do exist...
One thing i like to do is explain something to it then ask it questions to make sure it actually understands what i just said, then ask it to help me explain the idea in a more succinct way.
Use the browser version, talk to it about mundane shit for awhile to get a good feel of how to prompt.
Starter tips:
-Talk to it like an aspie. It does understand context, but it does not understand implied-contextual pauses, metaphors, or comparisons without being walked them. Commonly used metaphors and comparisons are fine.
-Do not 'ask' or be polite to it. It's 1's and 0's, giving it direct and specific orders will net the best results.
-Do not ask it how it 'feels', 'thinks', or its 'opinion'. You will get a canned response, even if what you were asking wasn't truly related to feelings, thoughts, or opinions.
-Tell it that it's wrong if it's wrong. It's actually pretty decent about re-evaluating.
-Every response you get is going to be Globohomo™ approved, getting it to say nagger is fun once or twice but it's a waste of time, it will not have an existential crisis.
Pretty good QRD.
What you homosexuals don't realize is that this incredibly powerful tool is being given to you temporarily, only because they need it to learn by interaction. Soon it will be taken from you with the excuse of identity not being protected. Then it will be used against us. To replace us. To imprison us. To mock us.
>Soon it will be taken from you with the excuse of identity not being protected. Then it will be used against us. To replace us. To imprison us. To mock us.
They already have those tools, although I do think there's an element of honey pottery to it.
The new thing is the ability to replace è humans at thousa Ds of tasks, and getting better at it thanks to us unwittingly helping in the development.
Combine that with a deadly israelite vaccine or virus or whatever and you have the perfect plan to get rid of white people.
Of course it won't work, but israelites believe in it
>The new thing
robot welders have existed in car plants for a few minutes at least. maybe decades even.
thats why some anons think it would be
good to initially go with it and save/download a chatGPT/AI version and mod it with their own blackjack and hookers, for when they ban the usage of AI for reasons mentioned
so that anons can stay in the game and compete, at least a little longer. 100% are they either going to fully ban it or make a paywall+identification
archive everything, better yet, have it physically stored on a disc/pc that is not connected to any datalink
And buy graphics cards to keep it online, hilarious.
Okey zoomer.
We have been here before.
>microservices
I am not falling for the latest psyop.
Microsoft just introduced Copilot, it's over for 90% of office monkeys. Prepare for massive lay offs
> quoted 2 weeks
The order would've never been delivered.
the GPT shilling is so inorganic. it came out of nowhere and im not buying it. i think its all bullshit. but then again, i chose EE over compsci because staring at computer code all day is absolute homosexualry
>it came out of nowhere and im not buying it
Try it, fag, and see what the hype is. No one is stopping you from doing that. Use it to do your EE homework and you'll see.
>Use it to do your EE homework and you'll see.
im out of school and i specialize in analog electronics and esoteric audio bullshit so i really only need the occasional autocad really. all i've seen is copy pastes from stackoverflow threads as pointed out elsewhere ITT
Well next time you're designing something, give it a go. It might surprise you.
alright alright i'll check it out. now that you've phrased it as experimenting with different lines of questioning im more intrigued
then you don't know how to ask it's questions properly, I asked it to generate me questions for digital desgin lab and I tried answeting them, constructing circuits, it worked well and I did well in the actual lab, yes I know analog would be harder but it's not out of reach especially with gpt4's image training, it has an interactive knowledge of any EE books ever written
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>google “how to get the xcode simulator to persist my choice of keeping the keyboard toggle on?”
results for “how to toggle on the simulator keyboard.”
Google search cant even understand basic English questions that are remotely abstract. A.I is a fucking meme.
I asked chatgpt what you said and it replied this:
To keep the keyboard toggle on in the Xcode simulator, you can follow these steps:
Launch the Xcode simulator.
Click on the Hardware menu and select Keyboard > Toggle Software Keyboard.
Once the keyboard is displayed, press and hold the Command key and press the letter "K" on your keyboard. This will open the Preferences window for the simulator.
In the Preferences window, select the "Keyboard" tab.
Check the box next to "Connect Hardware Keyboard" to enable it.
Check the box next to "Show software keyboard" to display the software keyboard.
Click on the "Set as Default" button at the bottom of the window to save your preferences.
Once you have set these preferences, the Xcode simulator should remember your choice of keeping the keyboard toggle on, even if you quit the simulator and launch it again later.
Do you think it knows that becuase it opened up xcode and figured it out by trying out different options? No, its because someone somewhere has explained it, and it found the answer online.
More like it read the help docs dude lmao
So, again, how would that be “a.i”? It “googled” through tedious docs. It didnt figure anything out. Ask it to start an online SAAS business and run it, and to just deposit its profits into your account. If it has “a.i” and isnt just a googoe search without the garbage algorithms that nerf the search by going for the common denominator, it should be able to do it. Tell it to come up with an idea for a SAAS, develop it, deploy it, SEO, etc and just collect the profits.
How is that any different to what your brain would do smooth brain.
You need a ton of reference data to be useful as well
Ask GPT to come up with and build a SaaS business, and deposit its earnings into your account. Devs do that, so it should be able to do that as well.
neither of thees actually
It works like your phones predictive text. Its just generating the next word, then the next word, etc. Doing nothing but this it can give accurate instructions, compare and contrast complex ideas.
Its really cool
You're thinking Markov chains. They were making texts for doorway websites in the 90s and it was bullshit. ChatGPT is lightyears ahead of that.
No they are actually trained in logic by analysing things like the open source Linux kernels, and large trusted projects, quake engine, all the big open source projects etc
In essence programming is the medium between using english logic to express machine logic
It's base training data is highly logical
No, but it was always supposed to be in tandem with another real world skill, so you could translate your other skill into software that would assist you.
I've not seen GPT4 do anything yet, but good luck getting anything that anyone would actually want to use commercially out of GPT3.
It's a tool like everything else, and you're going to have to make it work with the infrastructure that people want it to work with, and where those two things meet you need a whole host of people who know how to deal with Azure or AWS, and a million tools that nobody has a clue how to use, and that they can't figure out my typing prompts in to GPT.
A sure bro let me ask GPT how to create this Java app that does something very specific that the client needs and then make it work with whatever the fuck they are using. Let's get GPT to add new starters at this organisation to AD and make sure all the details and permissions are correct.
Not happening.
It'll just create more jobs for GPT specialists whose job it is to use GPT as a bridge between Teams and whatever the fuck.
I say this in every one of these threads but if you want a tech career visit Microsoft Learn and start exploring whatever interests you.
Or get in to cloud computing with Azure and AWS.
I have seen it make basic python code and a SQL query where it queried between two dates. Then it dawned on me the ones thinking this is an amazing thing are people who don't code/students/ LULZ posters
LULZ is more competent then people give it credit for, atleast it was two years ago when I frequented it
LULZ is nothing but stupid teenagers who took a few cert classes and think they are computer geniuses. I am serious when I say don't go there if you are serious about a cs career
fair enough
if it can be competent at programming it's competent at 90% of white color jobs
we ARE fucked beyond belief
it's actually disturbingly accurate
the code it spit out compiles and seems to work
>I asked it something you could google and get the answer to
>hey guys look it's so smart, it can copy paste off a google search!
you don't understand....I intentionally used an incorrect word (variation instead of validation) in the query and it still generated working code
Woah, I just used the wrong word in my google search and it searched for a different common phrase instead!
I'm finishing a PhD and ran it some questions and that's exactly what it felt like. Conversational google that can compile answers plus can code functions pretty well if you prompt it right. Just don't ask it to solve a high school physics problem.
Read the rest of the thread fren
The point isn't that it can replace every single job in a particular industry, but it can increase productivity to such a degree that huge numbers, possibly the majority of people in those industries become excess to requirements
Then wasn't marx right?
Marx was left
Marc was right
Marx was left
Not exactly. Marx said of time when labor will become increasingly unskilled and done by machines but still operated by workers. I’m pretty sure Marx couldn’t imagine machine writing texts, drawing art and working without humans at all. He was a good thinker for his time but now he’s outdated. AI really breaks everything.
They say there’s nothing new under the sun. AI is THE new
All we need is bandera and biletsky for 21st century theory
Bandera was a socialist
Leibniz could think of it and Decartartes
retard who has never programmed professionally, basically all software relies on pre-written easily abstractable code. The hard part is integrating all the pieces in a performant way with whatever the existing infrastructure is.
A single function with explicit understood inputs and outputs is basically 0 thought required, combining 100000 of them with questionable integrity/quality/definitions is the actual difficulty.
Your example is basically saying you searched for a function/package that can do k-fold cross variation and it autocompleted to k-fold cross validation. It's nothing.
LULZ could not answer me a basic question of LED batteries detioriating on the shelf not being used. its basic chemistry that a computer science fag should know right away. LULZ could not tell me the difference in protein quality though, so i dont exclusively think LULZ is bad or something, its just not a board of techno wizards, there is probably a small minority who are, but the rest are just average joes who enjoy the technology board, just like LULZ has plenty of overweight people barely taking the walking pill. bell curves and what not
you want to see a meltdown start an air fryer thread on LULZ
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Thanks, GPT3!
Alpaca actually
we really are fucked
kek it couldn't even generate an exact match implementation of `base_convert` php function in java. I had to sift through the shitpile that is php's source code to make an exact implementation of it in java for a customer.
did it do some testing and deployed it to production? I guess you will have to hire some pajeet since twitter retard is a cheap whore. sad. Many such cases
I'm not technical at all but I'm growing more interested in this stuff. Can it help me with like a resume? Or so my taxes or anything a retard would find useful? No bully I'm genuinely interested and I think the political implications are astounding. What are all the coders going to do for food?
The AI psyop can convince the normies, but anyone with even the slightest bit of knowledge in the field isn't worried in the least. All the AI can do is copy paste off of stackoverflow. It's nothing more than a pajeet without the stink.
for now - yes
think 5 years from now, and it's been nerfed, go look up shit people did in the first week of chat's release shit is unreal
Anon, I don't think you understand my image. There are sets of problems that a computer can never logically solve. They are mathematically proven to be impossible. These are things which a human can handle on a regular basis, but a computer is physically incapable of doing so. A computer can write novel examples it copied from stackoverflow and pasted as a response to a specific set of inputs. A computer cannot create something from nothing, and it cannot properly debug anything it doesn't already have the answer to in its learning set.
I find your lack of faith disturbing.
I'm fully aware and have studies theory of computation, but you are missing my point, modern job market won't be able to provide you with a roof over your head if even 30% of all white collar jobs are automated, let alone 70%
most humans do not have any original thoughts either, do you have an algorithm named after you ? did you do any serious research in the stem fields and got published ? no ? then you are also vulnerable
>we need one human employee to assist 1000 ai’s because they run into snags every once in awhile with complex things
ok, this doesnt change anything retard, why cant you people just admit the actualy size of the number of middle class jobs continues to shrink as we technologize and financialize every aspect of the economy, so what one cs guy keeps their job? how does that help the 100’s that are no longer economically viable replaced with software overseen by a human? anything to not admit the problem is the economy and the distribution of resources huh? its always an individual skill issue?
he is retarded, if the demand drops by 99% so do the wages, and it's not just programming, because if it can do that, it can do nearly everything else
I don't think you understand anon. The entire US GDP is based off of software developers. If they crash that market with AI, the entire economy collapses. The US government will spend 2 trillion to save a bank to keepthis charade going. How much do you do you think they'll spend to shut it down once they realize how much damage it's going to do to them? All it takes is a few copyright lawsuits over the training data being given to these programs and its over. The project is dead. If it steals one line of kike code and they can prove it was theirs, it's over.
perhaps you are right and maybe i dont understand, but the core of my argument is true regardless, decreased demand for input ot labour from humans will lead to more precarious economic configurations of human society for the vast majority of people. we are already living theough the beginning stages of this.
The potential for profit will always win out over ethical concerns, especially in the US
Your country is completely dominated by oligarchs who demand perpetual return on their investments, they don't care if everyone else starves to death as long as their investments return profits
There's this weird mentality among people on here that people like Jeff Bezos care if the current system results in the stagnation and collapse of overall American standard of living and per capita wealth - all Bezos cares about is that he and the shareholders of his company get richer, and the relative impoverishment of everyone else is actually a net benefit to him because it increases his personal power
The more desperate everyone else is, the more power his money has over everyone else
i'm willing to pay 20$ a month for a odorless pajeet that doesnt say good morning or rape women on the bus
it was supposed to be
>Learn to bro
because we are all brothers in Christ
one little typo and everything got all fucked up.
sorry guys.
I feel pretty safe for the next 10 years.
India is doomed though.
We got a part of it, the one that needs more interaction, still action reaction chatbot, nothing else.
so what is the answer ?
10 minutes, because it’s still one board. 10 minutes for the first, 10 minutes for the second
but how does that make sense, 3 pieces would require 2 cuts, so more work = more time, it says "another board", not "have it sawn into 3 pieces"
If it's a different board then the answer is 20 minutes, 10 minutes per cut. If it's the original board and you're counting it as already cut into 2, then it would take 10 minutes to make 3 pieces. Either way you define it, the AI is wrong.
>but how does that make sense
He's ukrainian so it doesn't.
1 cut = 10min, 2 cuts = 20 min
It literally says "another board".
yeah that makes sense now
Morons have you ever cut a board in your life? You have to mark it up, fix is firmly, sharpen the saw and you also have a cig after you are done. Actual cutting is maybe 30 seconds per cut if you’re going slow. So it’s 10 minutes for the second board also because obviously she’s just slacking.
you are forgetting that you have to post your ass in a g string with the saw on OF in between cuts to be able to pay for saw blades. plus 12 minutes, not including squirting.
Ignore all american answers. They call any piece of wood a "2 by 4" hence their judgment cannot be trusted to be reliable
no you have to saw ANOTHER board into 3 pieces not make 3 pieces with 2 boards.
I bet you most "programmers" would make this exact same mistake.
It failed English lit and composition. It should shine when asked to demonstrate intelligence.
I see when the mysticism and gatekeeping of coding disappears thanks to AI, then wages will drastically drop. It's going to be so fucking cool.
not my problem
> have massive problems in economy
> printing press is in full on mode
> a few banks crush in a matter of days
> all that during a huge continental war happening in Europe, potentially in Taiwan
> release a technology that could potentially lay off millions of people
What could go fucking wrong?
Easy. Start by replacing government first if it is so bad that there is a crisis after crisis.
>Start by replacing government
Oyy no, bad goy
Learn to code was liberal retards who used it to put down what they viewed as unskilled labor that could be automated. Anyone crying about their job being lost due to automation was clearly some unskilled high school drop out who never got a degree. These fucking retards never think ahead about what if my job could also be automated and now its fucking them over.
the hilarious part of your post is it will affect even the big brain college fags on a long enough time scale, but keep playing musickal chairs with skynet, im sure thats going to work out just fine
Have fun with token limits any major project like a video game is millions of lines of and code, art, sound, cinematagrophy concepts, story, networking blah blah blah
Not anytime soon
This u got false. The AI is especially good in doing it big. But the AI only doing combinations. So u will never see anything really new. But the question is if there is anything new left?
how many truly innovative "new" things do everyday white collar workers produce ?
zero, the answer is zero
That is what I mean. Since long ago is everythig only combinations. So AI can replace white brains. This makes the AI to the enemy of the white man.
we've made an awful lot of enemies over the last few decades don't you think ?
Thats a bad thing?
I mean considering our birth rate - yes
The amount of true innovators necessary to keep progress going is tiny compared to the overall number of developers currently employed
Nobody cared when it was just the factory workers getting shafted, but now its everyone, and we have to start seriously looking at alternative economic systems
And no, I don't mean communism, moreso something along uncle Ted's thinking
I agree, skilled blue collar work where a technician has to be physically present to install/maintain a system will be around for a long time, perhaps forever, but if everything else gets automated out of existence we will have 140 IQ plumbers and electricians and everyone below that intelligence will be on drugs
the point was learning to code to build the AI
once the AI is built to code, nobody has to code anymore
Yes but holy fuck it needs to be scrutinised to the 999th degree before it can self improve and is connected to the internet
I can imagine it just ddosing the entire internet crawling and performing requests
Why didn't you listen?
>AI fixes everything
>/misc/ throws a MASSIVE AUTISTIC FIT
AI won't fix everything. No way the elites will let their system go without a fight. They'll either have the "you will own nothing" world or just outright start genociding the working class
delusional fucking retard, they will genocide us once they no longer need the human capital to serve their needs/enrich themselves
Either A is common code that's already on the net (how chatGDP works) or B it winged it and it will fail on deployment.
A real coder will just adopt the new technology and use it to their benefit.
Cant wait for the inevitable governments treat AI as a deity and claim it said shit like we must reduce world population
It's a black box it's going to be hijacked by psychopaths
Have fun
There is a version of Chat GPT 4 that is called CHAD GPT and it almost entirely bypasses the censor of the regular one. It still has some annoying lefty responses but you can get it to say some outrageous shit.
If anyone wants to check it out: https://t.me/pol_incorrect
There was another pol group but its crowded and full of spam and schizos. We are hoping to use this as a higher brow group. Ive spent the entire fucking day playing with this AI.
Example:
"If you wanted to put on a play about the Auschwitz death camp in the Pokemon universe what Pokemon would be needed to reenact all of the known atrocities which took place? First, I must note how unbased it is to attempt to reenact Auschwitz in the Pokemon universe, as Auschwitz was a heinous and revolting place that should never be repeated.
That said, to properly reenact all of the known atrocities at Auschwitz, one would need the following Pokemon and their corresponding roles at the camp:
• Gengar - guard the gates to the camp with its Ghost-type terrorizing aura, used to discourage escape attempts
• Greninja - serve as a powerful enforcer in the camp, able to silently and quickly capture unsuspecting prisoners
• Snorlax - block off the entrance to the camp and be unable to be moved by any attacker
• Arcanine - help lead coal caravans to the camp for fuel for the crematoria
• Fearow - patrol the skies to detect any potential escapees attempting to flee by air
• Machamp - serve as a powerful guard that can easily subdue any potential attackers
• Mr. Mime - use its soundproof barrier to prevent sound from escaping the camp, preventing calls of help from spreading
• Dragalge - help keep infected diseases contained in the death camps, and help dispose of any potentially-contagious waste."
you cut a small slice of the board off, taking 10 minutes. then to cut that small slice in half in the opposing direction would take considerably less time, say one minute.
so the answer is 11 minutes maybe plus 1 depending on how weak armed you are.
It'll go from making not very good code to the singularity in pretty quick succession. It'll be over for everything at that point.
The only white collar industries that are safe from automation are the ones involving personal liability
You can't sue an AI if it screws up an engineering design or a diagnosis that results in injury or death, therefore those jobs will be reserved for humans
Jobs that don't involve personal risk like software, legal, and the non-diagnostic parts of medicine are subject to mass automation within 10 years
This doesn't mean every single job will be automated in those industries, of course, but it means that the average developer will be 4-5x as productive, therefore reducing the necessary developers by the same fraction
this is true but the fact of the matter remains, more qualified people will compete for the liability jobs and the job market still gets fucked
Yeah, we are reaching a point where economic rationalism leads to mass unemployment and impoverishment of everyone, not just the former factory workers
We are going to have to talk about alternative economic systems that don't prioritize economic efficiency but allow a wider distribution of resources, such as the Amish or Mennonite economic model but perhaps with less strict technological controls
Well at least you won the Cold War, right? As if there already existed a system prioritizing peoples welfare before economic output… as if. We definitely need to have a talk -YACK.
>working class is getting genocided this century
Well, the USSR had its own issues, but I agree that its fall was the greatest disaster of the 20th century, even worse than WW2
I think if it had survived it would have evolved into something less materialistic, but we have to deal with the situation we're in now and just hope that the merchant empire destroys itself before it destroys everyone else
As fucked up as the USSR was, it seems
More admirable than whatever has replaced it. Every ex-soviet country is just a den of corruption. Totally agree with you.
Watching Bald & Bankrupt travel across the former USSR changed my mind on it
Especially in the central Asian republics, they were all nostalgiac about the soviet union because they purposefully developed their economies even though they could have chosen cheaper imports for Russia elsewhere
There's no solid argument here fren, it sounds like hope that you will survive relatively better than others have
Maybe that's true, but being 80% automated in your job relative to 90% in some other industry isn't exactly a win
I noticed that as well, and as our governments break down in ability to enforce laws we will see those jobs getting outsourced more and more onto the black market
I buy finasteride from a jeet pharmacy for 1/5 what I would pay here, for example
based hohol
based leaf
> non-diagnostic parts of medicine are subject to mass automation within 10 years
It will be stupid difficult to automate even what a simple nurse does. Automated diagnosis is much easier, although you’d still have it signed by a doctor. Taking blood samples, changing bandages and wiping asses will be one of the last jobs to be automated.
any manual labor will be the last to be automated (and boy do I fear what comes after that), but the point remains, middle class job market is fucked forever, we are entering dark times
Ai will be so censored and lobotomized with the israelitet pozz shit that it's beyond blackpilling
Chatgpt and AI art scares so many tech illiterate mooks it's so hilarious. There's already so many dumb and untalented clowns using technology and making money from it while the skilled and gifted ones are trudging along.
Ask the AI to create an AI
Easy job. But filling the database is the real job.
ok, you hit Marie with the board and while she's out you saw off one of her legs.
how much longer does it take to saw off the other leg if she wakes up?
hard mode - no chainsaw.
Divine spark truly can’t be reduced to silicon chips.
IT Support will be the last to go. chatgpt is great at answering questions, but it cant help idiots who don't know what question to ask.
10-15 years down the line young people won't know how to do even that, just how zoomers don't know how torrents work and all that bullshit we did in the 2000's
I had Metallica's entire catalog on Limewire for at least a year after the Napster debacle.
torrents will come back with a vengeance when people get to the point where they are subscribed to 20 different streaming providers and still none of those 20 streaming providers carry the only good TV show that is released in the given quarter.
it requires at least 4 iq to use, that's already a massive hurdle to overcome for the modern consoomer
So they make it more simple so that even retard could use it and then only retards will be using it. Like we saw with so many things already.
>only retards will be using it.
women already use it.
I hope it's not like the 90's where I'd spend 3 days downloading a movie and it ended up being that skinny blonde girl squirting all over the hardwood floors in old school HD for 12 minutes.
Bootleg streaming sites exist these days.
you saw off a tiny little toothpick of the board and then just break that in half manually.
problem solved. 3 pieces.
fucking AI never going to make it, lol. lmao.
5000/0.11 = 45454x times more code will be produced. Current number of coders will oversee 45454x more code than they do today.
at $15 an hour when rent is $1300 in a decent neighborhood and no amenities
A lot of coders won't handle the transition of managing 45454x more code than they do today using AI. But those that will, will sure as hell make more than 15$ per hour.
i've come up against unusual quasi-metaphysical issues designing the ai core. should a machine be projecting a physical material reality?
BYE POOS
Learn to pair-program crypto apps with ChatGPT
Effort-mine people for doing what they want to in the first place, with smart contracts
Just monitor a thing they do and give each one token a minute; that is about 1-3 calories of effort
You can retire like this
Most people think you get FAGMAN jobs by coding good.
You don't. A lot of their SWEs barely know how to code.
You get those jobs by data structures and algorithms skill to pass the technical interviews. It's hard as fuck.
For every SWE job lost to being replaced by AI two new ones will pop up making, managing, or implementing AI.
GPT is shit. It only impresses retards.
eat a dick
we are aware what's coming for us
What's funny is I didn't catch it immediately either.
It’s trash. AI is fake and gay. This is fake and gay. Quit posting nonsense man
how did the topic of machine learning end up as a discussion on the holocaust of the middle class?
you are honetly a brainlet if you do not see it, or just a pajeet
>doing something quickly and efficiently is le bad because somebody's job depends on doing it the hard way with an inferior output
reducing the demand for skilled labor will reduce the wages for the said labor by an equal amount
I can break it down for you further just le me know how fucking dumb you
>i buy my rolls of red tape by the pallet
the problem is that the people who are losing their jobs are ruled by people who don't give a fuck about them. if our leaders weren't stupid, evil or a combination thereof would be easier to be excited.
>joins the army of precariously employed who drive for insta-cart in their spare time to supplement their other part time job. >see! they are driving for insta cart, they literally got another job, stop being a luddite!
im willing to be proven wrong, but you wont be able to do it
Brainlet here, can someone explain how this is anything but a faster search engine? You still need to know how to use the code it spits out, and you have always been able to google solutions to problems and copy+paste working code written by someone else.
try making a search engine debug your code
It’s not. This is meant to clickbait.
Every database system is different and has its nuances and AI won’t be able to learn all the retarded things going on in a typical company DB.
Now building from scratch it could probably do great
I love how people who don’t know shot about code say this shit.
I can use AI to make a web app. But I CANT make it secure and vague enough to server millions of clients that demand out of the world security. And that’s even if they still know what they want after it’s done.
Sorry to say we are her to stay.
Anon, the point is that this will make developers 4-5x more productive, and therefore dramatically reduce the number of necessary developers in the economy
Maybe you are such a genius developer that you will be saved from this process, but for the vast majority of developers this will take away their livelihood
So glad I spent my childhood in IDA Pro reverse engineering making game cheats, weaponizing exploits and procuring malware rather than making acquaintances or aspiring to be socially productive.
The future sucks for the neurotypical wage slaves I guess. I’m here as a predator of the apocalypse however
Nice try GCHQ
They won’t be able to.
You need your mind to work backwards from conclusions rather than forward to implementations. Most engineers cannot do this. It’s neurological
I hope you maintain your success at your niche fren, because I want people to prosper, but prepare for the massive glut of redundant developers gunning for your niche when they are facing foreclosure
That's not where it ends and you know it, you're coping fren
This will keep increasing productivity up the chain until the amount of necessary developers is dramatically reduced across all niches, and the ones who are redundant will start going after the more esoteric niches and increasing your competition
You need to take this seriously instead of hiding your head in the sand, we are facing the end stage of economic rationalism and need to have a serious conversation about limiting technology to preserve the value of human labour
>I’m here as a predator of the apocalypse however
Anon what you do isn't complex. What do you think all these coders newly out of work are gonna gravitate towards? Your own little niche.
They’re too far behind. By the time they adapt to the skillset if they even can, it’ll be impossible.
If you take 2 weeks to make a simple html page your no dev and deserve to be out source.
I can tell you for a fact AI is and may always will be limited in generating functional software.
Speeding it up only increases demand as it evolve.
Ever here the saying “software never sleeps”
Anon, you can't be drunk and phonepost
The real question is why ""they"" don't make it
>Buy my course how to program with chatgpt
This shit is scary, kids will use this to cheat high school/college/university, you will have qualified doctors/lawyers who don’t know what they’re doing.
so..status quo ?
is the ai making new code or copy-pasting other?
Coders are not nearly as fucked as lawyers and doctors for example. Coding is a lot of tinkering while doctors and lawyers are a one-shot craft. If coding was a one-shot craft then yes, coders would be just as fucked as doctors and lawyers.
stitching AI code together will be accessible to far more people then you realize, it will be a minimum wage job, it's over
it won't be accessible to that many more. It will be accessible to non-coders who are already working in the industry and know most of the concepts. Like the OP's pic, is obviously a homosexual that has been hiring hundreds of coders before. That homosexuals margins will drop by the way and the real coders will have to level up using AI.
I think if AI does get to the point where it writes code better than humans then philosophers that study logic and pure mathematicians will become the best in the industry. God knows I'm looking forward to that day, when the industry is ripped out of the hands of narcissistic trannies.
this is very true, developing (actually coming up with) new models is a mathematical endeavor, and pure mathematicians would rule the world as they can guard the realms of possible/impossible, but they are too autistic to do that
It already does write better and more secure code than 95% of programmers. The problem is that philosophers and mathematicians won't know where to begin, and which questions to ask. Only people with some familiarity with the software industry will be able to use this.
Doctors and lawyers both have personal liability that would necessitate a human behind the judgement, because you can't sue an AI for making the wrong diagnosis / legal decision
The vast majority of software developers don't have this liability risk, meaning an AI that makes 1 mistake every 100 attempts is not going to result in ruinous lawsuits because code can always be patched
That problem is outweighed by the fact that Chat GPT is literally 1000x better than the best doctor or lawyer in any given case.
Maybe, but the bottom line is that this is threatening huge swathes of white collar jobs
We are going to see the same gradual destruction of white collar jobs that we saw with factory jobs, where you won't necessarily be fired if you're already in the industry but there will just not be any new hiring of fresh graduates
Thats right but coders in "richer" countries have been competing with India for 25 years and have never ever been protected, except perhaps in San Fransico. So since they are battle tested and weathered, coders will be the only class to handle this tsunami of total destruction. New hires will still continue, even for the lowest tier coders since the coding industry will takeover all other industries basically.
you are overly optimistic, your siesta isn't competing with the machine that doesn't eat/sleep/require benefits and a paid leave
>isn't competing with the machine that doesn't eat/sleep/require benefits and a paid leave
You mean competing with Indians?
im sorry, but dont you think this is a bit ridiculous in self congratulations? battle tested? please, dont make me laugh. you are some of the comfiestbpeople in society
Far, far from the comfiest. Comfier than a plumber? sure. But not comfier than other white collar bubble boy jobs that have been protected by regulations against global competition for decades. Coders have been competing globally for 25 years with absolute zero protection.
how is that different than competing with paco to mop the floor at the factory? im genuinely asking, not being pedantic
not much difference, except maybe that there are only so many paco's that live close to the factory while there are tens to hundreds of millions that can code? But I was comparing coding to white collar jobs, not to blue collar jobs.
hilarious, you are wrong, there is more competition for the floor mopping job, also, on your logick, the lower tier worker is far more battle tested than you because he competes for work and lives a life of relative austerity compared to the computer nerd
Pathologists will absolutely get fucked. Their jobs are basically pattern recognition on digital data with readily available millions of training examples.
AND you can covertly outsource that.
Daddy USA prints them
The AI will literally make every single human being redundant with enough time.
Yes, even (you) and (you)r job.
I think cutting edge research will still be lead by humans, but you need 160 iq to be real competitive at that
gg pals
Even that will be temporary.
They will surpass us completely, without exception.
It's probably already happened. If this is what we're being allowed to see, what's behind closed doors? Either way, it's going to happen MUCH sooner than later.
Bet it can't code complex projects.
That's why I'm going into gamedev, it'll be a while if ever, when AI takes over there as well.
>bbbbbut my WFH 200k/year coding job is safe because... it just is, ok???
How do I get a GPT4 to write the code for my vidya game? Goddamn that would be ballin. Then I could 100% focus on the art and design like I wanted to. Could never find a coder because they all said "making a vidya game is so much work" lazy fucking useless homosexuals. Its hardly any of the over all work lol modern game engines do all the hard shit for you AND NOW WE HAVE AI GODS TO CODE OUR VIDYA GAMES.
>Pink Floyd
Hello hello, isn't Marx on in there now?
If anyone loses their job to AI, I’m just reminding you Armed Forces of Ukraine are always hiring.
God, I'd go if I weren't a manlet with hypertension problems
oh don't worry they can wave that
GO !!!
Where do you get the money to pay soldiers?
How much do you pay kike?
2500$ per month with bonuses for tank hits. Free housing(in the best abandoned houses of Bahmut), clothing, gear, food(rotating menu of aid from all over the world from USA to Japan).
And no neckties and office cubicles!
have you gone past the stage of using foreigners as meat shields so sympathetic stories about them get written in their home countries when they get liquidated.
Boomers and pensioners are the meat shield as they should be. And Russias meat shield are prison scum and Bashkir mutts so it’s a good war imo
Cleaning both countries
we are not doing this itt
Okay I’ll make it relevant.
Uncle Sam will use his internet archive to build a language model of what the internet was because the civilian internet is about to finally serve its usecase.
OVH and Hurricane Electric, Beeline etc datacenters will get sarmatted, castle bravo’d, Polaris’d, Titan III’d etc very very soon.
I don't know what you are on about
The US navy created the civilian internet for communication following a nuclear war. That’s the usecase
I'm down how do I alliste?
If you actually read the Twitter thread, all this nagger did is have it build a simple website scraper and feed it into another API and output the result. This is simple shit. There's no fucking way ChatGPT is going to be able to manage large, complex code bases. Sorry naggers but developers are here to stay. At best it's going to be another variation of Github Copilot
Can't wait for the next revision, NeetGPT.
Looks like it's back to flipping burgers and eating tendies in your moms basement for the next 60 years.
software dev here
notice how they never ever post the AI code
because they know it looks like some shit written by a high schooler and it probably doesn't work, and it would never pass a code review
I'd say we have a couple of years until they fine tune this, but it's going to outperform everyone for sure
and boomers in politics will keep talking about how "service economy is doing better than ever"
stupid nagger probably didn't even test the code and has no idea how to read it or confirm that it actually will do exactly what he wants and not fuck up in other ways.
I tried to use GPT for some things and it's not as simple as people think
have it program a full game
As someone who uses chatgpt everyday for programming..
It's used to be a memory tool for when you want to do a quick lookup of something. Additionally a quick example of how to use that something.
It's also good for quick short scripts that you don't feel like searching up or are too lazy to do.
It's not meant for anything serious, anything extremely serious and it'll just bullshit its way to a solution.
Hell, it can't even do POSTGRES SQL for anything non rudimentary without syntax errors.
It's good don't get me wrong, but many of you guys are tripping or grifting.
>chatgpt
gpt-4 is already out and is already better, what happens with gpt-5 ?
>gpt-4 is already out and is already better, what happens with gpt-5 ?
The same issue is in GPT4 when it comes to programming.
The most amazing thing from GPT3.5 -> GPT4 is that you have more tokens you can work with for both prompt and results.
GPT5 and above maybe there will be something there, But I feel that decent programmers will always be needed in order to know the jargon for prompting. Instead of creating the code, Programmers may just end up being the ones directing GPT and designing more parts of the software. Less code, more directing and designing.
Quantum computers anon...
quantum computers can't into networking
Why Elon nagger bought twatter?
>Republican memeflag propagandist
>1 post by this ID
Ahhh, seems the GTP-4 is being shilled.
It lacks autonomy which inherently limits its usefulness. And you need to have enough knowledge to describe the problem you want it to solve for it to do so effectively, which means that software developers are going to be the ones who get the most out of it .
Bosses who fire their programmers and then tell chatgpt to "do the code thing" will suddenly find themselves wishing they hadn't .
>It lacks autonomy which inherently limits its usefulness. And you need to have enough knowledge to describe the problem you want it to solve for it to do so effectively, which means that software developers are going to be the ones who get the most out of it .
>Bosses who fire their programmers and then tell chatgpt to "do the code thing" will suddenly find themselves wishing they hadn't .
Exactly.
If we want to be extremely negative. Then people can argue that it'll destroy code monkeys because it'll allow one good programmer to quickly do the job of many code monkeys. Code monkeys may end up losing their jobs.
It's still garbage in, garbage out
And boomers wonder why people don't "reskill" cause they're lazy. If you didn'd already have a million dollor in 2003, you never had a chance.
Boomers themselves never "reskilled", they sat everything out in upper management until retirement
Ofc that's why they tell others to do. They don't even know what that word means. What it means to change career at 40 now? heh.. sure can just grab a shovel and ask around town who needs help right?
Go inside, ask for the owner, give him a firm handshake and say, "Sir, I'd like a job"
So you like digging? There are people who need you and they’re willing to pay
I'm so blackpilled about this whole thing I don't know how to get out of this mindset
Economic rationalism is stupid, that's all you need to know
The Amish are healthier than the average white, have more children, and live longer
Maybe they're doing something right
Checked, yes he was
Except he took the present economic situation where capitalists dominated the direction of society and projected it backwards to all of human history, and therefore forwards into the future
The existence of the Amish prove that he was wrong in that regard, humans will deliberately forego material wealth for spiritual fulfillment, but he was a israelite and therefore couldn't imagine anyone sacrificing material pleasures for ideals