What did this annon mean by this? What really is the celestial kingdom? What are the purpose of Celestial marriages?
Later-day Saints
What did this annon mean by this? What really is the celestial kingdom? What are the purpose of Celestial marriages?
Mormons believe that you become a god when you die but only if you get married in a mormon temple,. Also, if you don't get married in a mormon temple you will not be able to spend the afterlife with your family. So you in essence become a celestial.
They're partially right, you are already god, but that's about as far as it goes. You don't need to be part of a cult to get anything they're promising.
Source:I was mormon growing up
What if you are only baptized do you get to go the celestial kingdom?
Depends on how old you are and If you've completed your mission or not. It's just dumb, it's better honestly to just follow your heart unironically. You should meditate, and the /LoA /threads here are good places to start. All religions are just ways for people to control the sheep and are inherently evil due to their structure. You're already God, there's no reason to follow somebody else. The one thing I do miss about the church is that 99% of their women are smoking hot but they won't marry you if you're not mormon.
What if you are just convert?
Its one thing to just convert, but most Mormons have a pretty large web of people they know and build relationships with through the church and other activities usually funded by the church, you also have to be willing to pay 10% of all the money you make, going in blind without this support system is pretty daunting and if you dont have the mormon prerequisites (baptism, mission, temple shit) and go in at an older age people can tell, amazing sense of community if you actually break in though
What if you just want to pay tithing and recieve the sacrament? Would you be treated poorly?
>Depends on how old you are and If you've completed your mission or not. It's just dumb, it's better honestly to just follow your heart unironically. You should meditate, and the /LoA /threads here are good places to start. All religions are just ways for people to control the sheep and are inherently evil due to their structure. You're already God, there's no reason to follow somebody else. The one thing I do miss about the church is that 99% of their women are smoking hot but they won't marry you if you're not mormon.
No, throughout my life mormons have been the most giving and friendly people I've ever known. Though they will judge you pretty harshly for sinful things like masturbating and smoking or drinking alcohol. I'm not going to try to sell them to you, if you want to join, just go to a service during a Sunday and speak to an elder.
Didn't mean to quote the other post.
What about fornication?
Look, Anon, stop trying to weasel your way out of obligations to get good pussy. Alright?
How can I get good pussy?
For what end?
>For what end?
That's their abode. They also have a hidden kingdom on Earth. There are a lot of great castles and temples and cities in the unseen. It is the luxurious, paradise abode of these creatures. The knowledge of the masons was directly inspired by these realms. It's where most of their knowledge came from. The top Masons are spiritually awakened and they know a lot about the fallen ones.
>you are already god
the first lie was that you will be like God
its utter bs
>They're partially right, you are already god
confirmed ignorant autistic retard
How do you know? Have you died yet?
Arent mormons just spicy Christians?
Where'd they get the whole becoming a God from
Not that person but Mormons aren’t Christian, they don’t believe in the Holy Trinity in the normal sense of it. I won’t dignify their blasphemy with an explanation but feel free to research it further. It’s shitty 1800s fanfic about Jesus coming to America which was mainly a cover for polygamy. Look at the extremist Mormon groups like FLDS, those are closer to original Mormonism
Interestingly enough the whole Jesus coming to America and the nephites being a lost tribe of Israel in America with a grand civilization falls inline with the tartaria conspiracy that's been gaining traction. I find it hilarious that Joseph Smith came up with the tartaria narrative 200 years ago.
Ironically what I like most about mormonism is the stuff everyone else hates about it(tithing, adam-gods, baptism of the dead, plural marriage)
I almost think mormonism is Theosis and Origenism made into a formal church system and community.
>Interestingly enough the whole Jesus coming to America and the nephites being a lost tribe of Israel in America with a grand civilization falls inline with the tartaria conspiracy that's been gaining traction
I wouldn't go so far as to believe in Tartaria, but if you dig deep enough, there are DNA studies done on Cherokee Indians, sites in Colorado that are purported to have Olgham script and other anecdotal evidence that could connect America to Ireland and Spain (and the Egyptian Exodus) if you believe the Scotichronicon (Scottish oral tradition written down in the 15th century). That and the place where Smith died was just up the river from Cahokia Mounds, which is the place you would literally expect a tribe of ancient Israelites to have settled if they settled anywhere in the new world. As batshit as it sounds, I don't think Smith was completely crazy.
You're not literally a God, but you are an extension of Gods creative power, that is, you are made to be a cocreator. Law of attraction/manifestation is the mechanism used for this, when you do these things you are engaging in creation as God would, obviously on a much smaller scale.
There is a bit of God in you and a bit of you in God but there is plenty of individual us that is not God and an infinite amount of God that is not us. We can choose to be one with God but we can also choose afterwards to step back into the soul self.
He means that the checkered pattern temples seen in visions on DMT and by spiritually awakened people are actually used by the fallen angels and nephilim.
Also, they torture people in blood sports there. I once saw a man tied behind a horse and they were running around a track and his body hit the side wall as the horse made its turn and all of the creatures there were laughing and cheering.
I have a feeling Joseph learned the truth through freemasonry and decided he was going to enlighten the uninitiated by making a religion out of it. Regardless, out of all denominations Mormons certainly act the most Christ like.
>I have a feeling Joseph learned the truth through freemasonry and decided he was going to enlighten the uninitiated by making a religion out of it
Had a few semi-close Mormon friends (at least as close as Mormons get to outsiders). They tried to bring me into the Church. Don't know if they were just bullshitting me or if it was a recruiting tactic, but three of them in separate conversations basically stated as much, that Joseph Smith was a high-level Mason and the Masons had him killed. I personally, would love to know why people in the 1830's and 1840's had so much seethe against the Mormons. It never really made sense to me that Missouri and Illinois would literally set out to exterminate and expel the Mormons. For the most part, they are fine people, I have no idea why they would be literally persecuted as much as they were for just wanted into have more than one wife and do their thing. The U.S. purportedly was founded on religious tolerance.
hahaha Joseph Smith was a certified con man. Mormons are basically the "squeaky clean" version of Scientology but more akin to Christian denominations.
>Mormons are basically the "squeaky clean" version of Scientology
Strange how both Scientology and Mormonism have their roots in the beliefs of the ruling class. L. Ron Hubbard was a member of the Intelligence Community (ONI) and Smith was a Mason. Perhaps this is why both are so wrongly vilified
Stop. Do not pass go, do not collect 200$, and do not swallow Mormon bullshit.
There are no deep truths or mystical fonts of wisdom in Mormonism. It's all smoke and mirrors designed to get you to pay tithing and recruit others to pay tithing.
There are fairly /x/ parts of Mormonism, but make no mistake - the whole thing is spiritually dead and metaphysically empty and built on lies besides. The endowment ceremony involves a ton of Masonic symbolism and used to involve naked touching with oil and suicide vows, but that's the extent of the /x/ stuff. Beyond that there's "second annointing" which allows LDS leadership to rationalize doing immoral shit but it's again spiritually dead.
Source: born and raised Mormon, family is multi-generation Mormon with ties to the Idaho-Utah area
you’re totally wrong and also gay
Yeah man I'm sure you've totally had tons of amazing super spiritual experiences in the temple that definitely actually happened and aren't just you bullshitting at the pulpit during fast and testimony meeting.
Anyway, for the lurkers in the thread, look up the CES letter for some basic criticisms of Mormonism (ignore the fedora tipping part at the end), or just lurk /r/exmormon on >reddit for a couple days if you want to see the full extent of the Mormon bullshit. For starters, did you know they have a $140 billion slush fund which they actively lied to the IRS about?
Look up Bill Schnobelen. He has written about Mormonism quite extensively. Also this video is pretty good.
I'm sure it's very fascinating and all but people looking for esoteric meaning and hidden truths in Mormonism are trying to wring water from a rock. It's simply not there, no matter how hard you try to force it.
homosexual. Nephite Coin
The fact that you try to qualify your nonsense by stating that your family is mormon or whatever just shows you’re some jaded exmo queer. CES letter is a nonissue. Also I don’t need to be in the temple to experience personal revelation and confirmation through the Holy Ghost. Hope you repent.
Damn that's crazy haha. Can you tell me why the previous "prophet" championed using the term "Mormon" and the current one calls it a victory for Satan? Can you tell me what the deal was with the LDS church's hidden horde of money which they knowingly lied to the government about? Can you refute any of the "nonissues" raised in the CES letter (KHV ripoffs in the BoM, anachronisms, etc) instead of trying to handwave them away? Do you understand what second annointing is and are you okay with your senior leadership literally not following the same moral standards as you? Can you explain why Joseph Smith had 40+ wives, some underage and some forced to marry him despite already being married to others? Do you think critically about any of this shit whatsoever?
Can YOU explain why Mormons believe the 10 lost tribes made it to america? :3c
brainwashing
You are incredibly reddit. I’ve confronted all of these things. Have you ever looked at the apologetic writings for your smokijg guns? Second Annointing isn’t valid if you don’t live worthily. It also isn’t a concern for the majority of members. God’s Church needs funding and reserves for when shtf. You left to be gay and jerk off.
>I’ve confronted all of these things
Apparently not, because instead of responding to the points raised you again resort to handwaving.
If you wanna donate to the First Presidency Vacation Fund for the rest of your life that's on you man. Enjoy watching the church fall to pieces as younger generations leave and older generations die off. I know I will.
Which vacations are those? The ones where they meet with princes in Africa? You think the Quorum of the Twelve drive lambos and live in mansions? Slush fund my ass. You are a retard and obsessed with the church because deep down you know it is where you belong. You just can’t bring yourself to repent.
>a $140 billion slush fund which they actively lied to the IRS about
deeply based
>just lurk /r/exmormon on reddit for a couple days
This comment itself is reason to not take anything you say seriously. I will never understand why reddit homosexuals even bother to come here.
the massive tax fraud only makes me like them more
Everything you wrote could literally be said about any other major religion, just without the large families, massive white majorities, and affluence. Literally nothing wrong with Mormons other than they have figured out the template to thrive in the israelite World Order.
Everything this anon said is correct.
t. was also raised mormon
>Glowies
There is no more info on these sites…
Need new info
To create a rubis.
OP literally doesn't mention Mormons. Fed.
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Uh just wanted to say that Mormons are weird as fuck
>Thriving economies
>Tight-knit communities that are supportive of it's members
>Large families
Your statement that Mormons are "weird" says more bad things about the state of our society than it does about Mormons.
>Large scale physical, mental and sexual abuse that is routinely covered up by the LDS slush fund
>Pushes the idea of community & family but is incredibly divisive towards any member who shows they aren't fully committed to their beliefs, belief over family takes precedent
>Terrible sex education, despite studies showing sex ed for kids and young teens helps prevent sexual abuse (weird coincidence that god botherers and republicans love child marriage and taking sex ed out of classrooms)
>Rampant sexism, transphobia, and a history of racism that stated black people came from Cain, therefore cursed on Earth (they were "segregated" basically until the 1980's)
>Laughably bad misunderstandings and misuses of supposed "holy text" by a con man with an arrest record laid the foundations
LDS sucks.
transphobia is cool and good tho
>Large scale physical, mental and sexual abuse that is routinely covered up
Funny how this is a common criticism of Mormons and Catholics, yet the abuse in Mosques and Synagogues (which is exponentially greater) gets a pass
>Pushes the idea of community & family but is incredibly divisive towards any member who shows they aren't fully committed to their beliefs
Why is this a bad thing? If you aren't committed to healthy beliefs, you should be ostracized.
>Terrible sex education, despite studies showing sex ed for kids and young teens helps prevent sexual abuse
Already addressed the abuse angle. All you have to do is compare rates of abuse between Mormons and the general public to know this is patently false. And sexual degeneracy is a disease in society. The Mormons are right about this one.
>Rampant sexism, transphobia, and a history of racism
Absolutely a positive aspect of Mormonism
>Laughably bad misunderstandings and misuses of supposed "holy text" by a con man with an arrest record laid the foundations
I'll take Smith's interpretation over that of a degenerate homosexual. Regardless, the proof is in the results. Mormons have a tight knit community and are one of the last remaining hold-outs against complete degeneracy.
im imagining you as a mormon in a suit at my doorstep right now
>im imagining you as a mormon in a suit at my doorstep right now
Actually, no. I'm not Mormon. I'm Catholic. But I do respect what the Mormons have. I was asked by a few of my friends to come to Church when I was younger. I didn't. Two divorces later, I wish I would have. It doesn't matter how good a person you are, you need a community of believers to support you. That's what the Mormons got right. I have a deep respect for their Faith and the power of their community.
Ye shall know them by their fruits
There is absolutely no way the israelites have the numbers to commit more acts of sex abuse than the catholics
You are aware of the concept of percentages. Right?
They're also some of the heaviest antidepressant users in the entire world
God is real and the church is true.
wtf
It's the masons so it has something to do with buttholes
Joseph Smith and the golden plates is the dumbest story ever
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>Later-day Saints Anonymous 05/21/23(Sun)21:10:35 No.348
temple marriage is when two of the old boys rumpy pumpy in the back
The human values of the churches are good, not their heregesis. The real church is between you and god.
>t. was a LDS
Why did you leave?
LDS here I will not be reading others posts or staying here to reply as these threads are usually fulll of seething hate fags. I will just put it plain and simple. We believe in 3 glories just as Paul described, and marriage to be an institution brought forth by god not for just this world but for eternity. the 3rd heaven as Paul describes it is the Celestial Kingdom where those who have strived in all ways to follow god will go, it does not matter if they were the right faith or any of that nonsense, if a person to the true best of their ability strives for god they will have plenty of time in the millenium to learn and obey all of gods true ordinances and commandments, including marriage, a holy sacred marriage performed in a temple. Extra facts: The other 2 kingdoms are the terrestial for those who are good people and the telestial are for all else, its considered 'hell' to many. But there is also Outer Darkness reserved only for those who openly reject god genuinely and desire nothing of him.
>I will not be reading others posts or staying here to reply
Read: I will not attempt to respond to the problems with the church because I would get BTFO
Not that guy, but I get where he is coming from. The absolute seethe about Mormons is pretty intolerable. Not a Mormon, but every one of them I have met is a solid person. The absolute bullshit spewed about them is unwarranted. They have odd beliefs, sure, but they are decent people. Not even the retards that talk about Tulpas get as much hate as the Mormons.
This. I was Mormon few like 5 years and for the most part are very good people, like genuinely good hearted people.
Mormons are actually glowies. Utah has some of the largest data centers in the world, NSA requires security screening which includes questions to identify if you’re mormon or not.
Literally the israelites of the midwest