>kill all the natives >the people who know how to grow crops in North American climates >first waves of US immigrants to the new world all starve to death
European-born new world settlers that came before the US was founded aren’t american then?
Glad to hear George Washington was truly English in all respects. Stupid mutt. >b-b-buh IQ only count when blacks dumber
European-born new world settlers that came before the US was founded aren’t american then?
Glad to hear George Washington was truly English in all respects. Stupid mutt. >b-b-buh IQ only count when blacks dumber
to be fair agricultural domestication is a meme and most of the fruits and vegetables that hispanics grew were not changed from their wild counterparts. The same goes for Europe an Asia. It doesn't take particularly intelligent people to farm and it's pure happenstance that one of the crops that hispanics grew was a legume. Even noticing that the legume was beneficial to the soil wasn't much of a discovery, but even then I doubt they knew about it.
the only thing special about corn is that it was bred to have softer kernels, which is why when you eat corn you still have corn in your shit, that used to be the hard kernels that they would have to break to get the seeds out of. the result is an easier to eat plant but one that wouldn't survive in the wild
even indian maize or flint corn, which was the corn that was found when white settlers came to the US, is nearly inedible with it's extremely hard exterior.
in mesoamerica they ate popcorn and probably a form of grits from the harder corn. they had to grind the corn most of the time which is where tortillas come from. I find it unlikely that natives were eating corn right off the cob without significant preparation and boiling
>I want WW3 so bad bros
Won't happen unless someone fairly junior makes the mother of all mistakes. The people the governments involved belong to enjoy being multi-billionaires too much to risk their wealth and position on something like that.
Nice meme
Somehow the Chinese were all starving and killed 10s of millions of their own people through it, and refused outside aid, but also saw one of the greatest booms in life expectancy and population growth in all of human history.
If 40 million people are dying of starvation, that means that hundreds of millions more are pushed to their limits.
Either the Chinese are fricking magical and managed to massively increase life expectancy and fertility with effectively no outside aid, while at the same time dying off in the largest mass starvation in human history, or there's some exaggeration going on.
We can materially measure the increase in fertility and life expectancy. So that can't be questioned.
>You claim that this..."World War 2" happened, yet the Polish population in 1980 was higher than the Polish population in 1940 - curious!
We can chart out in demography tables the impact of WW2 on generations effected by it. And see the impact of increased food and amenity access driving post war growth.
This is true of most of Eastern Europe.
In China we have a similarly war torn country with ostensibly decreased food access, refusal of outside aid, little amenity access, and almost unparalleled population growth. Which is a combination of traits that calls itself into contradiction.
Not all areas of the country have to be equally affected by a famine, just because the UK's overall population and quality of life was increasing doesn't mean the Irish didn't suffer a famine.
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Also the Chinese government itself doesn't deny the famine.
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At a certain scale of famine locality cannot be treated like that.
Some areas might have had it worse than others, but the spread should be such as to be definitely noticeable.
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Not all areas of the country have to be equally affected by a famine, just because the UK's overall population and quality of life was increasing doesn't mean the Irish didn't suffer a famine.
Especially because unlike the Irish Famine, there wasn't a vested interest by the Chinese Powers that Be, to wipe out a specific unwanted minority group during that era. China didn't have much of a nationalism issue.
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Especially because unlike the Irish Famine, there wasn't a vested interest by the Chinese Powers that Be, to wipe out a specific unwanted minority group during that era. China didn't have much of a nationalism issue.
Mao's Famine was the first time in Chinese history that famine conditions were recorded in every part of China, and not just isolated to the parts suffering from poor weather
>but also saw one of the greatest booms in life expectancy
Wow, that's so amazing. Life expectancy was only going up in China. >population growth in all of human history.
What explains this spike in the death rate and decline in birth rates in 1957-1960 that we don't see anywhere else in the world in the same time peroid?
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/birth-death-china-great-leap-forward-famine?country=~CHN
What could have happened here to cause such a dramatic shift we see no where in the developed world in the same time period?
>it is the year 1950 >time to start the ‘Great leap forward grand unification under one heaven five year plan’ >5 million maimed from industrial accidents >immediately execute all left handed men >demolish every orphanage >proscribe school after 4 years of age >ban salt >extend the working day to 25 hours >smelt 700 billion trillion tones of lead >the yellow river floods killing 200 million >dam the yellow river, killing 500 quadrillion >historians believe that without these changes China would have remained an agrarian community of little industrial capacity.
>kill all the natives
>the people who know how to grow crops in North American climates
>first waves of US immigrants to the new world all starve to death
Genius
>us immigrants
Nice seeing that high iq in action Zhang
European-born new world settlers that came before the US was founded aren’t american then?
Glad to hear George Washington was truly English in all respects. Stupid mutt.
>b-b-buh IQ only count when blacks dumber
>America doesn't control Cuba
So why do they complain about sanctions and Guantanamo Bay?
>China doesn't control Taiwan
So why do they complain about airspace violations and water claims?
there's zero ccp officials in taiwan, you will never invade taiwan
>there's zero ccp officials in taiwan
>Both Itoddlers
>>kill all the natives
The vast majority of indians died from disease and from conflicts they initiated.
And the amersharts celebrate the genocide in a festivity called """"Thanksgiving Day"""""""
>>the people who know how to grow crops in North American climates
Natives were hunter-gatherers, not agriculturalists
>Natives were hunter-gatherers, not agriculturalists
>what are the three sisters
to be fair agricultural domestication is a meme and most of the fruits and vegetables that hispanics grew were not changed from their wild counterparts. The same goes for Europe an Asia. It doesn't take particularly intelligent people to farm and it's pure happenstance that one of the crops that hispanics grew was a legume. Even noticing that the legume was beneficial to the soil wasn't much of a discovery, but even then I doubt they knew about it.
the only thing special about corn is that it was bred to have softer kernels, which is why when you eat corn you still have corn in your shit, that used to be the hard kernels that they would have to break to get the seeds out of. the result is an easier to eat plant but one that wouldn't survive in the wild
even indian maize or flint corn, which was the corn that was found when white settlers came to the US, is nearly inedible with it's extremely hard exterior.
in mesoamerica they ate popcorn and probably a form of grits from the harder corn. they had to grind the corn most of the time which is where tortillas come from. I find it unlikely that natives were eating corn right off the cob without significant preparation and boiling
>immigrants
Colonizers, sweetie. Immigrants are pussies, colonizers are based.
Uh oh guys..
He’s getting cranky
>ITT: Seething Amerigolems
italians love chinks they are chinks
I want WW3 so bad bros, I would love to help invade China and put those dogeaters in their place.
Holy shit a cartoon, bros I think I'm finished.
>a cartoon
>Y-your ugly
Yeah, well you're fricking evil.
bump
sob my life into pieces
i am a mutt in court
Kek
Do you think he jacks off to pictures of mutilated dogs before he eats his German Shepherd steaks?
>I want WW3 so bad bros
Won't happen unless someone fairly junior makes the mother of all mistakes. The people the governments involved belong to enjoy being multi-billionaires too much to risk their wealth and position on something like that.
Nice meme
Somehow the Chinese were all starving and killed 10s of millions of their own people through it, and refused outside aid, but also saw one of the greatest booms in life expectancy and population growth in all of human history.
40 million people is nothing when you have hundreds of millions of people starting up massive families.
If 40 million people are dying of starvation, that means that hundreds of millions more are pushed to their limits.
Either the Chinese are fricking magical and managed to massively increase life expectancy and fertility with effectively no outside aid, while at the same time dying off in the largest mass starvation in human history, or there's some exaggeration going on.
We can materially measure the increase in fertility and life expectancy. So that can't be questioned.
We can chart out in demography tables the impact of WW2 on generations effected by it. And see the impact of increased food and amenity access driving post war growth.
This is true of most of Eastern Europe.
In China we have a similarly war torn country with ostensibly decreased food access, refusal of outside aid, little amenity access, and almost unparalleled population growth. Which is a combination of traits that calls itself into contradiction.
Not all areas of the country have to be equally affected by a famine, just because the UK's overall population and quality of life was increasing doesn't mean the Irish didn't suffer a famine.
Also the Chinese government itself doesn't deny the famine.
At a certain scale of famine locality cannot be treated like that.
Some areas might have had it worse than others, but the spread should be such as to be definitely noticeable.
Especially because unlike the Irish Famine, there wasn't a vested interest by the Chinese Powers that Be, to wipe out a specific unwanted minority group during that era. China didn't have much of a nationalism issue.
Mao's Famine was the first time in Chinese history that famine conditions were recorded in every part of China, and not just isolated to the parts suffering from poor weather
>You claim that this..."World War 2" happened, yet the Polish population in 1980 was higher than the Polish population in 1940 - curious!
>but also saw one of the greatest booms in life expectancy
Wow, that's so amazing. Life expectancy was only going up in China.
>population growth in all of human history.
What explains this spike in the death rate and decline in birth rates in 1957-1960 that we don't see anywhere else in the world in the same time peroid?
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/birth-death-china-great-leap-forward-famine?country=~CHN
What could have happened here to cause such a dramatic shift we see no where in the developed world in the same time period?
threads like this are always made by pajeets, Americans don't care enough to make constant seethe threads
You are Pajeet
See? Rajesh can't even speak English, rangeban India and the quality of the board will skyrocket
Good morning sirs.
Communist China history be like
>it is the year 1950
>time to start the ‘Great leap forward grand unification under one heaven five year plan’
>5 million maimed from industrial accidents
>immediately execute all left handed men
>demolish every orphanage
>proscribe school after 4 years of age
>ban salt
>extend the working day to 25 hours
>smelt 700 billion trillion tones of lead
>the yellow river floods killing 200 million
>dam the yellow river, killing 500 quadrillion
>historians believe that without these changes China would have remained an agrarian community of little industrial capacity.
>still surpass every other country out there without the exception of the US
yeah, it worked really well