just intalled debian on a cheap hp laptop for a boomer relative
couldn't get the wifi working so I added the unstable repos and got kernel 6
I tweaked and installed a few things and checked that files opens with the correct programs
did I do good?
how solid it will be?
Shut the fuck up you cringe autistic homosexual. Reinstall windows for him and stop forcing this dogshit on boomers and making life more difficult
he told me his windows had a 'virus' and that his ui was confusing with things 'poping up' everywhere etc
he specifically asked if I could install him the same 'os' that he saw on my computer...
I use arch but thought debian would be a good choice properly configured
Why the fuck didn't you just put Mint on his PC? Debian is meant for servers or systems that won't be touched for 10 years and isn't fit for normies.
Go suck corporate dick somewhere else you stupid queer.
I installed Ubuntu LTS for my dad and he was confused why his laptop feels so fast and new. Never bought new laptop and instead continued to use old laptop. To this day it is same installation after years of use. Everything just works. Even printer works without manual driver installation that was suprising even for me.
did the same for my boomer homosexual drunk dad about 10 years ago before he stopped using computers and phones a couple of years ago. he used that laptop daily for business and did just fine, but then again he never really did more that email, office, scanning, spreadsheets etc. he had never used anything but windows before. i fired that thing up recently for shiggles, and it was ubuntu 12.04 lol.
shut up you fucking nagger and get fucking owned.
>Shut the fuck up you cringe autistic homosexual. Reinstall windows for him and stop forcing this dogshit on boomers and making life more difficult
>give your family digital AIDS
you must be a great grandson.
the geek squad is going to tell him he needs to buy a new computer since linux is a virus. Your uncle had no idea open source was so insecure!
Did you try to search the firmware on non-free first?
Will you manage the updates yourself?
the wifi card is some realtec bs and neither the realtec firmware bundle or individual firmware package did the trick
upgrading the kernel did though
>Will you manage the updates yourself?
I guess we'll see if he figure out sudo apt-get update / upgrade by himself
I could alias it to something self explainatory or whatever
that's why I was asking how long will debian hold without being updooted
>did I do good?
You seem to have accomplished what you set out to do. So sure.
>how solid it will be?
Debian is among the most stable operating systems you can install.
>couldn't get the wifi working
Sasuga Debian. Next time, try an unofficial non-free installation ISO with firmware. It's somewhere on the Debian site, Google will find it.
>Next time, try an unofficial non-free installation ISO
nah that wouldn't be fun
it's working fine now as you can see in the pic
I know you managed just fine, I just wanted to make it easier in the future - but if you're having fun, that's fine too.
>unclear what it is
Could try sudo fdisk --list /dev/mmcblk0 to find out more, it should show have a 'Disk model' line.
my debian testing setup broke in 4 days. But that was the NVIDIA vs kernel issue. Maybe your relative will be more lucky.
Also installed manjaro in dualboot with windows for my grandpa (he also specifically asked for this). He abandoned it almost immediately.
I feel like they agree to linux only to see us more
it's a shitty hp with integrated graphic on the intel cpu so no nvidia bs in sight
I basically did the following
>burn debian 11 iso on usb stick
>went to hp laptop bios to tweak a few things
>installed and removed windows entirely
>set grub timeout to zero
>autologin
>uninstalled gnome bloat like the 20 games and shit
>changed repo to unstable
>got newer kernel and removed old one
>wifi and bluetooth now detected and working
>dark theme
>dash to panel with one fixed workspace
>found a better debian pape
>checked every file extention open with a sane default app (vids in mpv etc)
>removed the 'recent' nautilus entry
>added expresso
>put exemple of each basic type of file inside his directories (few mp3 in music, few pics in Pictures etc)
>put a little .txt in document with basic advices like shortcuts like I would explain a toddler
should I add gimp or some other shit? libre office is already there
>GIMP
eh, unless your relative does image editing, no.
as for anything else, eh, just wait and see if your relative has any more complains about the apps.
yeah that's what I thought
I put neofetch cmatrix and htop to try to lure him into liking the cli next time I show him
Should have gone with testing instead of unstable. The constant update notification every time the thing boots gets annoying.
tbh I'm not even sure which one I'm on
I just modified my /etc/apt/sources.list as pic rel
if someone can enlight me as the exact difference between testing and unstable
also which one is sid? unstable right?
which one am I on considering my sources and my upgraded 6.0 kernel?
>update notification every time the thing boots
what do you mean?
what program would be sending the notification?
any debian chad can explain what does that source list make me?
>inb4 a troon
That's not testing nor unstable, you just added the backports for bullseye
so I'm technically still in stable except I pulled a more recent kernel via backports?
>advices
why are ESLtards like this?
He is a poojeet and asking LULZ if he did good or not. lol
does your boomer install random programs?
also automatic install updates
it yes, you will be their 24/7 tech support
how would he install shit if i hide 'software' and the only way is the cli
checkmate boomer
they may ask "How do I open .xlsx that friend sent me"
doesn't that open in libre office the same way a word file would?
op here
funny thing is I installed linux on some other boomer laptop two days ago
I picked mint
I was embarassed because cinnamon is mess
also he came back today because mint rebooted into a busy box initramfs prompt instead of his desktop...
It was just a quick fsck with the file system path to type to fix it but I was mad
so for this new boomer I picked debian
will switch mint guy to debian as well if it goes better
my only concern is if he try to print something from debian but I'm too lazy to try myself
I tried plugging an android phone and it mount properly in nautilus though and you can access the content so that works..
I also setup firefox with ublock origin and good settings
only google search and it open on a blank dark page
toying with the laptop I must admit 1366x768 is sort of comfy...
the 64GB mmc storage not so much
>64GB mmc
What laptop?
HP 14s-dq0039nf
and the storage is some CUTB42
probably by samsung sd/mmc device
unclear what it is
lsblk list it as mmcblk0
also the network card is a RTL8821CE 802.11ac PCIe Wireless Network Adapter
and good luck getting it to work without a recent kernel
even installing drivers manually did nothing
and the wifi + bluetooth card is a realtec RTL8821CE
other than that
intel celeron N4020 2,8 GHz
ram 4GB of 2400 MHz
eMMC 64GB storage
1366 x 768 14" display
pic rel, didn't know they make cheapo laptop with eMMC
i wonder if there is room for an actual 2.5" sata inside but I can't open it
hp hid some the back screws under glued plastic stripes
if I tear them down to access the screws the rubber will be visibly fucked
so anon, rate my retard proof setup and tell me what you would have done differently
distro de? what tweak?
like I said it's a samsung CUTB42 MMC 64GB
or is it eMMC unclear...
also can't find a pic
seems like there's a spi difference between the two
So what, you did a thing and now you're gonna keep making a weekly thread about it? Fuck off.
I'm an arch fag taking the opportunity to install a debian laptop to learn about debian and how it works, adiitionally the discussion is the best setup to give to a newb
sorry I possibly killed a stable diffusion pedo thread or a gpt4 will kill us all thread
go back to your ltt thread you fag
You've alrady made this thread before and I already told you to get fucked. Now you've made this thread again, and I'm telling you, again, to get fucked. If you make this this thread next week, which it looks like you will, I will, once again, tell you to get fucked.
also dpkg -l | grep linux-image | awk '{print$2}'
says I have this installed:
linux-image-6.0.0-0.deb11.6-amd64
linux-image-amd64
not sure what does that make my sytem exaclty
any debian fag?
cant wait for him to ask you how to instal lthe .exe files in his new computer
he asked me about doing some video editing
I said kdenlive was a thing but 4GB of ram may be a little low
what are the implication of having the linux-image-amd64 meta package installed next to my 6.0 kernel
I know debian unstable/testing? can provide more recent kernel but apt says I'm up to date
what give?
also what happen when I want to go to bookworm? do I dist-upgrade or reinstall everything?
>couldn't get the wifi working so I added the unstable repos and got kernel 6
yes, you fucked up, you should have used backports for that
I did see
picture
I mean I think I did
also testing is in hard freeze and Debian 12 is few months away, so you should have installed it instead of 11
how do i install bookworm?
latest weekly build
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-cd/
you can also upgrade your system, just reconfigure your sources and dist-upgrade
This, by the end of the year debian testing (bookworm) should be out. I'd just use testing if I were you.
Also on stable/unstable/testing:
stable <- testing - after enough time testing becomes stable and a new testing is created.
unstable - might be added to testing, but never 'ends' its an unstable rolling release, it will always be sid. some packages are inherited from sid to testing.
>unstable
>how solid it will be?
Unstable is misleading name.
op is a retard should have used the nonfree iso
>nonfree iso
pretty sure the current iso is nonfree by default. there was a big freetard spergout about it not long ago.
ah, nevermind. that's only from debian 12 onwards.
you did good, anon
personally, i would rather go with mx linux, less chance for him to break it, he can safely and easily updoot, and it's basically debian stable anyway
>non-systemd
>less chance to break
>i use arch btw
surprised that you didn't install Mint instead. What was the matter?
read the thread nagger
I installed mint to another boomer 2 days ago
the next day he send me a picture of his screen saying 'the computer is broken and he thought linux was good'
what happened was mint did a kernel upgrade (not sure if he did anything) and randomely booted on shell instead of login
he saw the initramfs prompt of busybox and gave up
I actually did exit - copy filesystem path - fsck said path then exit and fixed it after reboot
but it was shameful
I was already upset toying with cinnamon because it's sort of shit
so when asked again by boomer 2 I went with debian
>give boomer linux
You fucked up, unless the boomer is an emotionally distant parent your hoping to spend more time with. In which case, they will be asking for your help ALOT more.
us linux users, like fags reproduce by molestation
I cannot not try to turn innocents, luring them with a beginner friendly distro like a pedo with e-boipops in front of a school, no virus I tell them, no accounts, it will be fast, just drop me the device for a day and you will know the bliss of free software
the boomer innocently step into your den so you can give him a hand
you wear a tropical shirt and have bird on your shoulder
scratching your unkempt bear with one hand and picking gunk on your toe with the other
he mumbles that he can come back another time, that you seem busy
but the install drive is already inserted
he shivers when he gets a glimpse of calamares asking if the whole disk should be used, but you press enter not even looking at the screen while telling him about how he doesn't really need a gui for his updates because the cli is faster
the flute music intensify as he realize there's no way back
Gpt-3
No you didn’t do “good” man, what the fuck are you thinking? The poor guy can probably barely use a computer and now you’re forcing Linux on him? Are you trying to become a 24/7 troubleshooting hotline? What do you tell this guy when he wants to send his nephew a pdf?
>“Yeah pops just open up zathura. From the terminal. Uhhh, hang on let me just VNC into your laptop and do it for you”
Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you? Keep your skid shit away from your family members you fucking pseud
And your entire thread is you unsure of your decision, troubleshooting this shitty install you did for a family member! You are fucking retarded!
Ehh stable Debian doesn't change. If most of what the boomer does is use a browser, there will be no problems whatsoever.
He asked what distro to install last week, and when he got told to stop being an autist and install LTSC, all he said back was "I'm not installing Windows.", like it was some unspeakable taboo and completely out of the question. Some people just refuse to see the world outside of their own autistic bubble.
lmao
You should have sticked to stable and install kernel from backports you cunt
https://packages.debian.org/source/stable-backports/linux
>couldn't get the wifi working
2006 called, they want you back
When I was a teen, I installed Ubuntu on the family computer, but couldn't get the printer drivers to work at all.
I spent hours on forums, looking around, not figuring it out.
I come home from school the next day, and my boomer dad has the printer working.
He says he just used some old DOS commands that the remembered to get it working.
I still have no idea how tf he got it working
op here
nobody read the fucking thread
I posted my sources
I installed the new kernel through backport
all you retards have to say is
>hurr install windows
>duur base debian 11 iso is non free
>should have used the non free iso
I did it out of curiosity homosexuals
the fucking point is what is the best setup for a noob, you sold me mint last week and it was a total fail
reeeeee
Ubuntu, retard.