Just got my blood results. Is it over for me?

Apparently my cholesterol level is increased. My doctor tried to prescribe me satins in the past, she's gonna try do it again, i just know.
How bad are my numbers?
LDL cholesterol - 3.78 mmol/L
HDL cholesterol - 2.10 mmol/L
total cholesterol - 6.2 mmol/L,

My BMI is 25

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cholesterol isn't bad, statins are poison

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >makes oversimplified statement, follows up with a bewildering false conclusion
      They reduce incidence of heart attack among 60% of users over a 10 year span you stupid fuck.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're wrong

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >incidence of heart attack among 60% of users
        Users have it prescribed because they have problems they wouldn't if they knew how to eat and exercise properly.
        >but muh exception heart condition
        Shut the fuck up, fatty.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No shit but thay doesn't reverse the damage or change the fact that the stations dramatically reduce incidents of multiple types of vascular disease from stroke to heart attack.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Statins improve outcomes by reducing inflammation and antithrombotic properties, not by reducing cholesterol.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I didn't say they worked by reducing cholesterol your statement is correct. But the high LDL does correlate with higher risk of vascular incident which is why we give them to patients with high LDL.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I concede that elevated LDL is correlated with vascular Inflammation, but I'm convinced it's a symptom, not the cause.
                Elevated blood sugar destroying the glycocalyx, chronic hypertension damaging the vascular epithelium via mechanical stress, autoimmune conditions etc..
                It remains true that many people have high LDL without a concominent incidence of CVD, and these people typically DONT have the other risk factors I mentioned.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >many people have high LDL without a concominent incidence of CVD
                Maybe some such as plenty of people smoke without incidents of cancer but the drastically increased risk of vascular incident in those with familial hypercholestremia, despite being normal in other health markers, does not support your argument.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                not an argument, please do better

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >muh epidemiology
                literal trash, and not science

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >people with a mutation that massively reduces their body's ability to reabsorb lipids once they have entered the bloodstream are at higher risk of vascular diseases
                No shit anon.
                Thats like pointing to people with sickle cell disease as evidence that blood is bad for you.
                People with FH score higher in virtually every blood test for inflammation. Their chronically elevated LDL level puts their body under immense stress compared to the average person. You're skirting around the fact that with familiar hypercholestremia, the serum LDL is typically above 200mg/dL, and even as high as 400mg/dL. That's a completely different ball park to the 146mg/dL of OP.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >despite being normal in other health markers
                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5404314/
                >The screening for FH is vital as all biomarkers associated with atherogenesis are higher in these subjects and FH also independently predict biomarkers of endothelial activation and oxidative stress. Furthermore, despite not fulfilling the diagnostic criteria for FH, related unaffected family members that may not phenotypically express the mutation may still be at risk of developing CAD as reflected from the enhanced inflammatory and endothelial activation status observed in this group
                Having 300mg/dL LDL because your cells can't remove it from your blood is not the same as having 120-160mg/dL but your body can metabolise it as normal.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I am metabolically healthy. I have a normal insulin response. I can binge on carbohydrates and my body metabolises it quite well and I don't suffer any lingering ill effects.
                Following your logic, the existence of type 1 diabetics means that I still ought not to eat carbohydrates.
                Dont use mutant minorities to draw conclusions about the majority. We already went through this when we applied the findings of studies on salt-sensitive hypertensive individuals and generalised it to the whole population.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Statins improve outcomes
              'cept they don't

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7968073/
                >The present trial was designed to evaluate the effect of cholesterol lowering with simvastatin on mortality and morbidity in patients with coronary heart disease (CHD). 4444 patients with angina pectoris or previous myocardial infarction and serum cholesterol 5.5-8.0 mmol/L on a lipid-lowering diet were randomised to double-blind treatment with simvastatin or placebo.
                >The relative risk of death in the simvastatin group was 0.70 (95% CI 0.58-0.85, p = 0.0003). The 6-year probabilities of survival in the placebo and simvastatin groups were 87.6% and 91.3%, respectively. There were 189 coronary deaths in the placebo group and 111 in the simvastatin group (relative risk 0.58, 95% CI 0.46-0.73), while noncardiovascular causes accounted for 49 and 46 deaths, respectively. 622 patients (28%) in the placebo group and 431 (19%) in the simvastatin group had one or more major coronary events.
                The effect is not huge, and I am not convinced it is due to lowering cholesterol: as I stated above, I am convinced that the OBSERVED (not purported) benefits of statin treatment stem from their strong antinflammatory and anticoagulant effects.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe people should lose weight and exercise instead
                Or did we stop caring about quality of life??

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, diet and exercise should always be the first prescription.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No they don’t and in fact increase the chance of Alzheimer’s because your brain needs the shit they block. It is as simple as just keep up with decent cardio and watch your fat intake from shit like bacon. Mixing up oatmeal versus eggs. Not replacing one for the other, literally keep balance.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >inb4 some keto/carnivore shill say high cholesterol isn't b-

      Nevermind

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Get in some eggs you homosexual and go do some deadlifts and stretching.

        > Inb4 some veganschizo starts shilling high carb to lower blood pressure and cholesterole... Oh wait nevermind.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >if you listen well established medical knowledge that disagrees with my contrarian diet you… must be from my nemesis cult!
          Classic cultist take

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This.

      Howver OP, you're a fat fuck and should drop BF%

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    at least you don't have to pay taxes when you're dead

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Who's going to tell him?

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How bad are my numbers?
    idk why didn't you ask your doctor?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't trust doctors

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      What does your cardio look like?
      Do you walk?

      Yes, walk around 12 steps a day and ride my bike

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        OP, what's your diet like?

        >12 steps
        Lol
        How far do ride your bike?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So why see one then you fat retard.
        Go and see a homeopath and get your chakras realigned or whatever you stupid homosexuals do.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I don't trust doctors
        But you believe them when they tell you cholesterol is bad?

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The picture on the left is taken much earlier when less contrast is going through than the right picture where contrast is being blasted through. You can't compare with only those two pictures.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dude had no circumflex on his initial angio, luckily he went vegan and grew one...

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    What does your cardio look like?
    Do you walk?

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Before you go on statins, get an ultrasound to actually check for atherosclerosis and get a more detailed lipid panel to check how much of your LDL is glycated. High LDL or high total cholesterol are not inherently bad, there are other factors that MAKE it bad.
    More info: https://youtu.be/DXKJaQeteE0

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Your help is high which is good and your lol is borderline high which isn't desirable. I'm not someone who can diagnose a condition but your numbers don't seem that outrageous
    https://www.healthlinkbc.ca/tests-treatments-medications/medical-tests/cholesterol-and-triglycerides-tests
    If you have an interest in cholesterol, lipid panels, and health, I'd listen to Peter attia and thom dayspring talk all things lipids.
    Good luck

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    >mmol/L
    yikes

    You have a great HDL.

    If you're an healthy young guy I wouldn't start a statin on you. If fat work on losing weight.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm getting my blood exams done in 10 days, after losing 40kg from the last time I had them done. This time including testosterone.
    Super worried that somehow my 1 year of dieting will have fucked up all my values beyond saving.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Get a CAC test done, much more predictive of heart conditions than LDL

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You need to get advanced lipid testing - particle size is more important than just the base numbers.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My triglycerides are 0.63 mmol/L between

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Your HDL and triglycerides are good. You seem pretty healthy. And if you're fit, BMI is meaningless.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

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        High cholesterol has no importance IF you are not fat.

        Just don't be fat.

        I'm not fit more like skinnyfat I guess but not overweight. I'm 189cm 90kg

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ignore statins, high cholesterol is GOOD FOR YOU. It means your body is HEALING from SNEED OILS and SUGAR. Eat more BUTTER and BACON and don't eat carbs yuck they are toxic goylsop and vegetables have antirnutrients. You want to be BIG and STRONG like a TIGER??? What do TIGERS eat?! MEAT! Eat MEAT and BUTTER and LIVER! Only eat THOSE! Tell your docktor to FUCK OFF!

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    LDL is modestly elevated, total cholesterol modestly elevated.

    Your doctor wanting to prescribe a statin for this is insane. This is likely due to poor diet and lack of exercise. Things to note:

    In some people cholesterol can go up due to diet. You may be one of these people. Cut back on high saturated fat/high cholesterol stuff for 3 months and get a repeat test.

    Alcohol raises serum cholesterol by harming the liver's ability to process/create cholesterol. If you drink, stop or severely limit your intake for 3 months and retake.

    Other metabolic diseases (such as pre-diabetes) can raise cholesterol. I assume you didn't have high blood sugar so this can be ruled out.

    If I had to guess you probably drink a little much and you're also overweight. Both of these will cause cholesterol to see modest rises. A statin is generally given for insanely high cholesterol and after trying diet and exercise. Your doctor may be trying to get you on a statin because a diet and exercise plan failed. If you're unable to keep to a plan it may be an option, but in my opinion you just need to work on that.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >A statin is generally given for insanely high cholesterol and after trying diet and exercise. Your doctor may be trying to get you on a statin because a diet and exercise plan failed. If you're unable to keep to a plan it may be an option, but in my opinion you just need to work on that.
      Sounds to me like the doc has learned his lesson. If people they were willing to exercise and improve their lifestyle, they wouldn't have the problem in the first place.
      He's probably handing out statins like candy because people are retardedly non-compliant.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Work nurse said animal fat bad, wat nou?

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do you eat seed oils / vegetable oils regularly? If so, cut them out, they're poison and raise LDL cholesterol

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > raise LDL cholesterol
      No they don’t.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    High cholesterol has no importance IF you are not fat.

    Just don't be fat.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You need to lock that cock up.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    >cholesterol level is increased
    >Just got my blood results. Is it over for me?
    falling for the cholesterol garden gnome
    You need to do your own research on tryglycerides instead of trying to get your cholesterol checked you'll be surprised

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's here

      My triglycerides are 0.63 mmol/L between

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