Just got friendzoned again bros!
She said she wasn't looking to date since she got out of a relationship 2 months ago.
However we've hung out several times and she was very warm with me.
I'm not gonna probe but what do you think, is this the truth?
Could it be because I'm short? (5'4")
Because it wasn't the personality, or the haircut, or the clothing.
Maybe she's telling the truth and I'm jumping to conclusions.
you care to much about what women think
gotta admit this is true, rather than ask you should have made a move that implied romantic relationship and if she rebuffed then you move on. Clarification isnt necessary
You're too short to be dating women, she was using you as it wasn't going to hard to turn you down and she doesn't mind losing you
It's over for short men. No chance at all. Zero.
Date someone who's same height or shorter. You might face a few setbacks because of your height but it's not over. Besides you can always be a femboy.
I'm taller than her. Not by much but still.
I feel bad for you dude, but I hope she didn't string you along for whole two months. People often do that unknowingly after they get out of a relationship. Stay around her only if she has some friends who you can date, otherwise if she just want you around for emotional support then ghost her.
>Using emojis
I wonder why, do you also listen to machine gun kelly and mumble rappers?
Does the distinction between whether she is interested in being in a relationship with anyone or not really matter? She directly said
>> I don't like you romantically
So whether she's interested in relationships generally or not, she wouldn't be interested in one with you because she doesn't see you as anything other than a buddy and well, you've got and made that awkward.
>> it wasn't the personality,
What are you basing that conclusion on? She didn't say she doesn't like your height romantically. She didn't say she doesn't like your clothing romantically. She said she doesn't like YOU romantically and that means she didn't feel a romantic connection to you.
Gender agnostic, people have different standards in personality between acquaintances, platonic friendships and life partners. Someone might be ok as a platonic friend, particularly if we're going through something and just need people around us, but not make the cut personality wise for a romantic interest.
So what exactly are you basing your insistence that it wasn't your personality? Because I reckon that had a fair bit to play on it.
>> 5'4" (164cm)
You are limited to girls 5'0" (152cm) and shorter.
>>> 5'4" (164cm)
>You are limited to girls 5'0" (152cm) and shorter.
BULLSHIT. if you're good looking you can pull girls taller than you. but they loose interest faster
I think your height shit is a bit off. I’m 5’8 and have dated girls 5’8, fucked up to like 6’0.
>she wasn't looking to date since she got out of a relationship 2 months ago.
That's womanese for I don't want to date you.
She's just not attracted to you. Sorry. If you're 5'4" it'll be a tough uphill battle.
I don't know if you're serious about the friend thing or not, but don't bother. Avoid being friends with girls unless you were not into them initially or were conversing, but weren't getting attached or anything.
Who gives a shit? Just keep playing the game. At least you asked her directly. That takes guts, man. You even got a direct answer too and took it well. If you can already do that then you are better at dating than most people here.
I build enough confidence to get shot down again. I have plans to ask out a girl at my job but I have a suspicion that it will be more of the same.
At least I'm young. I wonder when I will become a disappointment to my parents for not even getting a girlfriend.
NTA, but focusing on the life you want to share with someone can help ease the pressure.
Do not shit where you eat.
No friendship. Don't bother replying to the bitch after such disrespect from her part.
You need to be more forward. The way you typed that message was really gay, like you were poking your index fingers together and looking at your feet. Good luck anon
Go fuck yourself homosexual and go back to sucking off Andrew Tate
I can't help that I'm a nice person to people. It's just who I am.
If getting a relationship means I have to act like a cunt then I will never do it.
Nice guys finish last bro. Niceness makes a woman's pussy dry as Sahara. You have to be strong (both physically and mentally) and show your dominance. Walk up to a woman, standing straight with your biceps showing and ask "hey, you wanna go out for some coffee later?" If she refuses, doesn't give a straight answer, then fuck off from there. Don't orbit around women.
>Don't orbit around women.
agree, but the rest of what you said is idiotic.
its not be a fag or be a cunt
theres a middle ground
Perfect. More of this kind of energy but when you talk to women instead.
>"Go fuck yourself homosexual"
>"I can't help that I'm a nice person to people."
You don't have to be a cunt just more forward, it isn't PUA shit it's just being a confident man.
>Being straightforward is now Andrew Tate
Ah, zoomers. Never change.
He was straightforward
Where did you meet?
Literally sat next to me in one of my classes
you've gotta stop talking so much dude you sound like a bitch. stop sending paragraphs. in your first message the entire last sentence was completely unnecessary. this kinda shit "being blunt" is the opposite of what women like, even the ones who say they appreciate it.
Dont try to make friends with women. By and large they are users; not good friend material
>Could it be because I'm short? (5'4")
yes. Also you are trying to negotiate attraction and a relationship over text instead of real life, which is a total chump move.
Dont be friends with her man, just take the L. Next time remember either she likes u or she doesnt, no halfway friends bs
It might be because you're short, it might not. There could be a laundry list of reasons. Women tend to become "available" for the right person, and it's usually for someone they feel that they aren't setting with.
Don't be friends with women you're attracted to. You can have female friends, but no self-respecting man should ever be friends with someone he has feelings for.
This isn't how you ask a girl out fucking lmao what the fuck is wrong with you spergs? Is this a larp?
>I'm not gonna probe but what do you think, is this the truth?
nah you need to rape her
take a fucking hint. Jesus christ women aren't some fucking puritanical saints they want cock, dick, she gave you a chance to not be such a boring asshole and you blew it
Save yourself in the future.
If it has to get to a point you have to have this conversation, she isnt into you.
They do not send mixed signals when they are into you. Nor do they ever, really (except some attention whores), what youre calling "mixed signals" is more likely just her being friendly and you reading too deep and having high hopes.
>They do not send mixed signals when they are into you. Nor do they ever, really (except some attention whores), what youre calling "mixed signals" is more likely just her being friendly and you reading too deep and having high hopes.
I want to tattoo this onto my eyelids. not OP but I need this.
t. no experience with women, or low wisdom and negative model of self
women absolutely do send mixed signals
chad just ignores the negative signals and tries it on anyway, if you're put off by the negative signals then you've been self-filtered as unworthy
Aww she was honest and apologized to you and everything, what a sweetheart. If only all girls were as nice as she is
>Maybe she's telling the truth and I'm jumping to conclusions.
She's telling the truth and you're and idiot, idiot
>sends entire novels as text messge
>expects to not get friendzoned
What was your plan here?
I won't even read those walls of text with fucking emojis (come on man, really?)
><50 words
>an entire novel
The fuck is up with people nowadays? He said what he had to say, if you can't read 50 fucking words then go fuck yourself
I'm with you on the emoticon though, that's kinda gay, and the thumbs up one makes it seem like he's actually upset even though he's acting like he's not
10 words is the maximum for a text message as a man.
Anything more will make you look like a fag.
stoicism retardation
What if I break it up into 5 separate 10 word texts?
You will see her with a Chad in few days.
>Thank you for sparing me a long overthinking session
>/ADV/ PLS HALP WHAT DID SHE MEAN BY THIS
>Thank you for sparing me a long overthinking session
That is possibly the most cucked sentence I have ever read. I mean really, that's internal monologue stuff, don't ever actually say it. The actual response to that (if any) should have been
>kk
>that's internal monologue stuff, don't ever actually say it
lol fuck that shit dude, you'll never be happy acting that way. The truth will set you free. Say what you mean and mean what you say. Don't be a fucking pussy
>The actual response to that (if any) should have been
>kk
That's being a fucking pussy
>What a fucking nagger
Pussy
Anime isn't real, dude, no one wants to hear your love confession.
>Could it be because I'm short? (5'4")
Yup
I refuse to believe guys under 5'5" are getting any messages.
>I wouldn't mind either way. I'll totally be your friend. Just a nice friendly guy here, willing to be friends
>Why do I keep getting friend zoned?!?
You volunteer for this shit.
What would you rather him do?
>Oh, you don't want to be in a relationship with me? Well fuck you then, I never liked you anyway!
What kind of fucking homosexual does that? If they got along but she doesn't want a relationship, then why not be friends?
>Instead of "asking for clarification" next time, just ask her out.
What's the difference? lol
>and you're putting the onus on her to handle the situation when you're the one who wants something here.
Pretty sure he was just asking the bitch if she wanted to date or not
>You're trying to get out of making it explicit
That's true though. That's why I say "ayy, so you wanna fuck?"
>but you just reveal that you've been thinking about it a lot
So what? What if he really was thinking about it a lot?
>A simple "hey, would you wanna go out sometime?" is simple and clear
That is far from being simple and clear. Now you leave her thinking "uhh, what does he mean by that?"
>and easy to brush off as just a passing thought if she's not into it.
Why not just come out and say what you gotta say like OP did? Fucking pussies, I swear..
What a fucking nagger
>it's pussy to NOT have an autistic meltdown over simply asking someone on a date
>it's pussy to NOT have an autistic meltdown over simply asking someone on a date
OP is an insecure homosexual about his height, but at least he said what was on his mind. He's hardly having a meltdown
>Anime isn't real, dude, no one wants to hear your love confession.
Dude, that's exactly what we all want to hear lol
I know I'm getting old but surely LOVE isn't a thing of the past, right?
>Dude, that's exactly what we all want to hear lol
Actually revolting.
>I know I'm getting old but surely LOVE isn't a thing of the past, right?
No one 'loves' someone they haven't even been on a fucking date with. You have a personality disorder.
>Actually revolting.
I don't understand how. Maybe you have a personality disorder? Alright, MOST of us want to hear the love confession. MOST of us want love in a relationship
>No one 'loves' someone they haven't even been on a fucking date with
That's true-ish, but OP also didn't profess his love for the bitch, he just asked her if she wanted a relationship lol
I don't think I've ever been on a "date" with a bitch that I haven't already had sex with, btw.. I don't fucking like dates anyway, I just do it to be nice sometimes. So yeah, you can be in love with someone you've never been on a date with
>MOST of us want to hear the love confession. MOST of us want love in a relationship
Those are two completely different things, and the first one is extremely untrue. Anime confessions are fucking synonymous with cringe and autism.
>abloo bloo we all want wuv
>and to FUCK BITCHES
You're pathetic. Go be mentally ill somewhere else, OP can still be saved.
>Those are two completely different things, and the first one is extremely untrue. Anime confessions are fucking synonymous with cringe and autism.
How the fuck are those two different things when they are the same fucking thing?
>abloo bloo we all want wuv
>and to FUCK BITCHES
>You're pathetic. Go be mentally ill somewhere else, OP can still be saved.
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT
Consult a mental health professional. I'm not kidding. I will eat my hat if you don't have a personality disorder.
Ahh you're the one that finds love revolting
Go on, though, explain why you think I have a personality disorder
>Ahh you're the one that finds love revolting
You don't know what love is.
>Go on, though, explain why you think I have a personality disorder
Watch some Onision videos, you'll figure it out.
>You don't know what love is.
Whaaaat?
Love sometimes involves some letters or texts where you confess your love, you know? It's sweet, romantic, meaningful, all that gay shit
>Watch some Onision videos, you'll figure it out.
Uhh, my first gf liked to watch that dude's videos but I never paid any attention, I assume because he was lame as fuck. Why should I watch them? He has a personality disorder or something? Attention whoreitis? What's he have to do with me?
We have been on a date before. I can't understand the mind games women play.
She even said
>Wanna do this again sometime?
So what the fuck did she want I don't know
Ohh, well dude she prolly just wanted the dick and not a relationship
>I know I'm getting old b
aren't you like 19 years old
le confession was always cringe, doubly so for guys.
>aren't you like 19 years old
I'm 29
>le confession was always cringe, doubly so for guys.
I suppose you would suggest never telling them you love them then?
>I suppose you would suggest never telling them you love them then?
It's ideal to say "I love you too" rather than trying to be the first one to say it. It's fine to say it but wait like 6 months or something once you're past the honeymoon phase of the relationship and not like when you're 2 dates in
>What would you rather him do?
Be upfront, honest, and direct about what he wants, and stop being a wishy washy pussy that can't even fully commit to asking a girl out.
>If they got along but she doesn't want a relationship, then why not be friends?
Because he doesn't want to be friends. He wants a romantic relationship.
>Be upfront, honest, and direct about what he wants, and stop being a wishy washy pussy that can't even fully commit to asking a girl out.
That is EXACTLY what he did
>Because he doesn't want to be friends. He wants a romantic relationship.
And I want a toilet made of solid gold, but it's just not in the cards, is it? She told him straight up he can't have what he's asking for, so that's a done deal. Now why can't they be friends after the fact?
>I'm not saying you CAN'T sit here and froth at me, but it'd be a lot more productive to just go to therapy.
You reek of narcissist
That is not what he did. He took a long, meandering journey to a half hearted attempt at asking her out, where he couldn't even muster up the balls to not throw in "We could also just be friends".
The fact that you think what he did was direct and upfront speaks volumes.
>That is not what he did
That is what he did. I don't know what you think this is, but it's not a debate. I am the law, you know?
>So to be blunt, do you wanna be friends or make this a more "romantic" relationship?
So how do you plead?
Yeah agree he came off like a bit of a pussy. I'm just reacting to the general debate of honest communication v. these Red Pill games, the whole idea of the latter has annoyed me since childhood. It devalues the ideals we should be pursuing as humans, and reduces love, companionship, etc. to a bunch of biological 1s and 0s versus something with any meaning. And I have a hard headed type personality where, if something contradicts my ideals in a fundamental way (even trivially) I'll never subscribe to it, hell even if it was universally true I'd just spite the game by not playing.
"If you don't like the way we play, don't play" as my second grade Phys Ed teacher once told me. OK, homosexual. Go fuck yourself then.
I also was initially going to comment on the reference to "mixed signals", because I wish that guys would stop perceiving any type of friendly behaviour, kindness, etc. as a signal. I elected not to rant about that because OP is probably a nice dude, but one reason women can seem to be so unreasonably cold, terse, etc. to guys they're not attracted to is fearing that "Hey, how's it going / what's up (smile)" is going to be interpreted as a mating call. And I don't care if "omg but it evolutionarily is durrr hurr", then evolution is retarded. Let's act like people not fucking savages.
>You should be honest with your feelings is a "hyper specific" position.
OK, chief.
>"Go fuck yourself homosexual"
>"I can't help that I'm a nice person to people."
Fucking kek. That was perfect. Agree about the middleground.
>Now why can't they be friends after the fact?
And why can't he just cut her loose, instead of engaging in some pretend friendship that he doesn't really want?
The world is filled with people, you don't need to be friends with every person you get along with, particularly those that you want more than friendship from. Go be friends with someone else.
This shit is how guys end up ruminating about how the girl they like is dating someone else, and bitching about the friend zone.
>And why can't he just cut her loose, instead of engaging in some pretend friendship that he doesn't really want?
He SHOULD, if that's the only option. OR he could engage in a REAL friendship, like a not fucking homosexual, and that would be ideal, imo
>The world is filled with people, you don't need to be friends with every person you get along with
Welp, what if he came off like a friend to her? What if she thinks of him as a friend? What's he going to do now? Bounce? What a fucking homosexual
>particularly those that you want more than friendship from
I don't know what that means. I think you're friends with someone that you're in a relationship with
>Go be friends with someone else.
Why? Because you were never really their friend to begin with? Worthless
>This shit is how guys end up ruminating about how the girl they like is dating someone else, and bitching about the friend zone.
Good. Then they'll get over it one day and finally be capable of real friendship
Beta bitch, you're purpose is to be a cum storage. Hope you enjoy getting filled up because from the way you text thats whats coming
Instead of "asking for clarification" next time, just ask her out. You might get rejected, but you'll have a better chance and it'll be a lot less awkward in the fallout.
When you handle it this way, you're basically saying "hey, do YOU wanna ask ME out?" You're laying all this emotional complexity into the thing by framing it as something that already needs to be untangled when it hasn't even started yet, and you're putting the onus on her to handle the situation when you're the one who wants something here.
You're trying to get out of making it explicit but you just reveal that you've been thinking about it a lot. A simple "hey, would you wanna go out sometime?" is simple and clear, and easy to brush off as just a passing thought if she's not into it.
>is it because im short
...lolno
Its because you fucked around and didnt make romantic dates. Be more direct with the setting next time there pal. You wouldnt be asking her cringe "heres my heart on a platter for you" level shit if you were having dinner together and trying to kiss her.
Get some game there mate. Pick up some relationship fundamentals. I recc Coach Corey Wayne.
It's your personality. You have a pathetic type, I can tell. Like seriously texting her about that? Imagine if you grabbed your nuts, told her to meet you somewhere physically, looked her in the eye and asked her to be your girlfriend. It just sounds like you are an unattractive beta orbiter.
>Like seriously texting her about that? Imagine if you grabbed your nuts, told her to meet you somewhere physically, looked her in the eye and asked her to be your girlfriend
That's what he did.. it's right there in the fucking texts that he posted lol
>Because you asked. Women don't want to be bargained but to be conquered.
How would you go about that?
Seriously, OP, text her back and ask her "what about friends with benefits?"
Anon. Stop replying to people being confused and combative about extremely basic shit that has fucking nothing to do with you. Go to therapy. Your brain doesn't work properly, and it makes you weird and fucking unbearable.
.. what are you even talking about now? Elaborate. As far as I can tell, you've been overwhelmed by logic
>Could it be because I'm short? (5'4")
Yes. I won't lie to you but that's almost certainly the main reason she doesn't want to be in a relationship with you. But there's an upside, considering she wants to be your friend you aren't such a retard that women are utterly repulsed by you.
Because you asked. Women don't want to be bargained but to be conquered.
>I've been getting mixed signals
>do you wanna be friends
>I wouldn't mind either way
it's because you're fucking beta LMAO. who the fuck wants to date someone who could give a fuck if they're dating or not???
I'm trying not to put her under pressure.
Yes and that makes you a beta by definition
Yeah well if things were reversed, would you want her to be pressuring you? Or would you appreciate that she tried not to pressure you?
(I'm not that guy btw)
Fag. You have no confidence and women can see it from a mile away.
Man. Why is getting a relationship so fucking toxic.
"Being yourself" apparently is a meme according to you and I have to compensate by acting like a fucking idiot.
>Hey I was wondering what you wanted in this
>We can be friends
>Okay cool
But apparently I was supposed to say "fuck you bitch suck my dick" and block and leave with pic related as my face
Shoulda asked her directly out. If she said no then YOU friendozne her. Never put yourself in a position of weakness (ie going out on a limb and asking the gay shit you did)
I did you fucking retard. She said alright.
But guess what, I didnt know if she wanted a friendly date or a serious date.
You literally gave her a choice of being friends or going on a romantic date. Next time why dont you go ahead and ask her out only instead of friendzoning yourself??? Her pussy dried up as soon as she saw you asking if you want to be friends.
>Next time why dont you go ahead and ask her out only instead of friendzoning yourself???
WHY? Do you feel like more of a man this way or something?
>Do you feel like more of a man this way
Unironically yeah. If I did what you did I'd feel like a woman.
>Unironically yeah. If I did what you did I'd feel like a woman.
Well alright then, fair enough
Don't you think that one of the options is just BETTER than the other, though?
Nobody said you should sperg out on her. It's about having some dignity and accepting she's not into you. There can't be a friendship where unrequited love lurks around. Else you're just going to funclub with her, get pissed when she finds someone else and lash out to your friend, embarrassing yourself in the process. Learn to love yourself ffs, you're no bitch's lapdog
You shouldn't say shit like "I wouldn't mind either way". It makes you look fucking pathetic, you're essentially verbally offering her to be her orbiter.
>would you want her to be pressuring you
YES, dumbass. Because I'd rather her being honest from the beginning, than beating around the bush like you did. You zoomers are a fucking lost cause jfc
OP ignore anyone in the replies because almost everyone in this is a homosexual, a simp and a cuckhold.
Yes, is because you are short and not attractive. If you would be tall and attractive that woman would immediately jump on your dick
I'm sorry, but move on and stop taking to this woman.
I kind of don't get it why short guys who besides being short look good get rejected
My standards of beauty might be different though. I'm a tall guy but I'm hunting for an even taller girl so I just don't care about being a manlet to her just because I'm shorter
Also if you really liked her maybe you should say something more blunt? Like "I had a good time together but I also feel like you sent me mixed signals? Would you go on a date with me?"
Maybe the she would feel that manliness in the air and agree or something but being a manlet must be hard so I pity you bro
This thread is ridiculous, debatting over what he should have or not said. All that matters is face, not the fact that you wrote a word instead of another
This isn't the kind of shit you ask through text.
>This isn't the kind of shit you ask through text.
Why not? What difference does it make?
You're doing the right thing anon.
I had a girl tell me "let's be best friends" in person after we went out on an 8 hour "date".
I thought she was being coy about wanting to be in a relationship or take things slowly. After flaking three times in a row I think she was serious.
Yeah clean slate. break it off. Will cause too much heartbreak if you try to keep the relationship going in any shape or form.
I kinda want to "unfollow/unfriend" this girl on social media so I can get her out of my head, but idk I still hope she'll change her mind and reach out to me.
You type like a guy texting another guy to go to a wing place. Texting a girl in college if she wants a romantic relationship is for your mid 20s. Text things you are doing like gym or pick up sports or going to x party and if she shows up she is down to be with you. This texting crap is you trying to take rejection easier.
Also still hang out with her if she is cool and she can be a girl you use to make other girls think you are chill. Don't go cold on her too quick. Like at a bar or party she is at talk to random girls and then circle back to her and be chill with her and girls will see you talking to other girls. Kind of like taking a break when cold talking to girls.
That's not how you chat with women retard
>I wouldn't mind either way
Guaranteed rejection
I'm being forward without actually putting myself out there. Good luck fucking fat girls or drunk chubby girls in college with this style of texting.
>without putting myself out there
And that's why you're a failure. No girl wants someone who's wishy-washy and tells her "I don't really care if we're in a relationship or not."
Can "heightcels" (which OP isn't, but they're here in force) explain how their mentality reconciles a belief in thousands of years of evolution with the present day existence of short men? It doesn't compute.
Same for men with other relatively common traits they believe have locked them out of dating. Science disproves the blackpill.
Probably because monogamy and financial dependence forced women to settle with short guys. The average height of homo habilis was 5 foot but the modern male has an average height of 5'7. How did this happen if women didn't select for height?
Explain short men married with kids now?
See attachment.
I agree honest communication is better than these idiotic grab ass games that pass for the collective abortion that is modern human interactions. Do I have a personality disorder too? (Don't answer that! X|)
I'm not blackpilled enough to think there's two retards who've come to the same hyperspecific false conclusion and are unreasonably mad about it. Yes, you're a samefag, and yes you still have a personality disorder.
Actually he's not a samefag, as I'm this guy he's talking about, you fucking retard
>
That's what he did.. it's right there in the fucking texts that he posted lol
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>Because you asked. Women don't want to be bargained but to be conquered.
How would you go about that?
[...]
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Seriously, OP, text her back and ask her "what about friends with benefits?" (You)
>
(You)
>Based.
>I don't have a personality disorder, I'm just enraged enough about this hyper specific thing to post extremely easy to fake screenshots that 'we' both mistakenly think of as being proof, while 'we' type and format our posts exactly the same and are coincidentally in the thread at the same moment 'we' were accused of being the same person and both feel enough camaraderie to clear one another's name
I'm not saying you CAN'T sit here and froth at me, but it'd be a lot more productive to just go to therapy.
with the way you text no wonder she friendzoned your ass. i can literally hear how meek and unsure of yourself you are through your text
Always ask women out as if it were purely incidental.
>I'm going to be at X place at Y time. (You're going irregardless of her) If you want to come along, I'll see you there.
If she makes an effort to show up, or if she reorganises so that you can do something together, you know she's interested. If she doesn't do that, then you lose nothing, and you know for sure that she isn't interested, so you can stop wasting your time with her.
lotta incels in this thread relating it to height
here's thing, you could be a 6'4 swole ultrachad and if you behave in a way reflected by that text, you don't get laid
that text is needy. you need her to define the relationship for you.
chad doesn't rely on texting to define the relationship. chad doesn't let the woman define the relationship. he makes an IRL, physical move, and if he gets rejected, he plays it off as if it's nothing, because with a mindset of abundance, one rejection is insignificant. if she keeps hanging out with a guy after she rejects his physical escalation (from the right setting/moment) that's basically consent, just with a 'i'll consent but you gotta show me what you're made of first'. outside of desperate sluts who will almost literally jump on chad's cock on first meeting, this is the game which successful men play with non-desperate women.
at least she likes you enough to keep you as a friend, if that reply is genuine and not a 'ugh don't want this guy going psycho'
Mad that I stopped responding to your lunacy?
Next time ask someone out directly and in person, that way you won't feel the need to insert your cringe ass emojis into the equation. It'll also make you look less spineless than you actually are.
>Next time ask someone out directly and in person
He was direct. Why's it gotta be in person?
>that way you won't feel the need to insert your cringe ass emojis into the equation
Is that the only reason? Couldn't he just not put the emojis? lol
>It'll also make you look less spineless than you actually are.
? It will? How?
>I wouldn't mind either way
If you want to be in a relationship, then commit to it you dumbass. Women don't like you acting unsure of what you want.
He'll commit if she commits, but if not, that's cool with him too. He doesn't mind either way
Retard
>she wasn't looking to date since she got out of a relationship 2 months ago
Women fucking break up to get into a new relationship THE NEXT DAY and you're buying this bullcrap she's feeding you? Women commit crimes for the right man, good girls raised in Christian households run away with the right enough man, they leave their parents and family for the right type of attention.
And you're buying what a woman is telling you? You're STILL taking a woman's words at face value?
Ohoho, you had
>THE TALK
with her.
You're needy as fuck and you blew it