Great read. Little bit repetitive about the kangaroo court chapters, but overall really eye opening. Didn’t think I could despise cops(blue caps in the book) worse than I already did, but here we are.
Any way I was wondering if someone could explain the ending.
We’re the younger guys making fun of the older guys for fighting in the war for a state that would throw them in a gulag? Is that what he(Solzhenitsyn) meant?
Bump for interest. I've not read it. It's on my computer I just haven't got round to it
Highly recommend. The Soviet Union was basically one big gigantic North Korea
> The Soviet Union was basically one big gigantic North Korea
Same big nosed problem and Norf Korea has many Nosebergs supporting them during the war that created it.
Korea is another case of a country that was treated like shit because a lot of people there could easily see throught the bullshit of the sandn-words.
I think I listened to a counter currents review of it once and it was mental. Do you plan on reading the other chapters and 200 years together?
Starting volume 2 tomorrow at work.
Lol. Room temperature IQ right there.
North Korea is based dumb fag
It was more about the older guys still having hope and a false vision of the utopia more than being duped overall.
This is why your occult (psychopath) tricks always work, morons are too arrogant to admit when they got scammed and others got too involved in your nonsense they even need to suck your dick to get paid.
Snitches Get Stitches and Nobel Prizes so it seems. That Piece of shit of a human being rated on his fellow inmates, and victimized himself for the rest of his life. You wanna read about soviet labor camps, you should try Varlam Shalamov he's a far better writer and a person of decency.
Not a hook nosed subhuman so he was never astroturfed. LOL
fuck you and your damage control you subhuman "eurasian" apes
A triggered garden gnome?
Check the nose.
But he talks about garden gnomes being in the camps with him
Gulag and 200 Years should be considered a set. You must read both to understand the Soviet Union.
If you include 'The Red Wheel' it becomes a trilogy of unimaginable suffering.
>cia glown-word propaganda
when you dying for zelenski homosexual?
Can you elaborate further?
I read his work.
Loved it!
>We’re the younger guys making fun of the older guys for fighting in the war for a state that would throw them in a gulag?
Yes. But our generation is no less foolish. It's the same rootless gnomish tyranny. It's just not only USSR anymore, it's the whole world now.
Fuck you.
Stalin was a garden gnome?
Don't think so, Sir
Yeah more than a book,he provides lots if data because he knew he would be called a liar by commies,so there is so many data and names and dates that its not a novel alike,but its a very good informativo book
It’s pure shit
Ok leftoid. Whatever you say.
Is this the guy who openly called for first striking the USSR with nuclear weapons?
Yes pretty sure he has a fair and objective view on it's prison system.
Holy shit. Really? Fucked up if true. But………………you can’t really blame the guy after what he went through
During war, the soviets didn't put their letters into envelopes. Instead they folded it into triangles like pic related. Everyone could open and read them.
Solzhenitsyn openly critisized Stalin in multiple letters when he was captain during the war. He knew the laws and he knew the punishments. He knew his mail was being read and censored.
He chose to go to gulag, thus escaping the front and fighting the germans.
And gulag was so terrible, he admits to have read scientific publications during his conviction. So he must've had acces to a library and enough time for reading.
Get it now?
The first part of Solzhenitsyn's sentence was served in several work camps; the "middle phase", as he later referred to it, was spent in a sharashka (a special scientific research facility run by Ministry of State Security), where he met Lev Kopelev, upon whom he based the character of Lev Rubin in his book The First Circle, published in a self-censored or "distorted" version in the West in 1968 (an English translation of the full version was eventually published by Harper Perennial in October 2009).[30] In 1950, Solzhenitsyn was sent to a "Special Camp" for political prisoners. During his imprisonment at the camp in the town of Ekibastuz in Kazakhstan, he worked as a miner, bricklayer, and foundry foreman
There’s 2 sides to every story, rarely is anything black and white
Everything is black and white because you either get killed or you're alive.
The NKVD had camps where the suitable inmates, proficient enough for the task, were assigned to work on scientific projects. For example, the USSR's first atomic bomb program, overseen by Beria, was worked on by imprisoned scientists in camps of tarpaulin rimmed with barbed wire.
Lol communists are so delusional.
did you read his work?
He survived only barely and by pure coincidence.
back to troonychan with you
Ironic that a guy flying the soviet flag would call critics of the ussr biased.
Wish I could help. Just finished the POW chapter. It's so crazy all this was unknown until the book escaped. There is a documentary that discusses the hardships of making the book and it's amazing how much courage it took for everyone involved. They wouldn't even speak when putting together the stories because there was so much fear of the secret police
Shilling glown-word propaganda. Never change LULZ
Kek
>two hundred years together
You should read Two Hundred Years Together instead.
Author?
Same author. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.
thanks
fake globalhomo bullshit written by cia
you support lgbt dont yu? fucking nato homosexual
what author would you suggest, vatnik!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fourth_Political_Theory
" entirely new political ideology, the fourth political theory, which integrates and supersedes liberal democracy, Marxism, and fascism.[1] In this theory, the main subject of politics is not individualism, class struggle, or nation, but rather Dasein (existence itself).[2]
The book has been cited as an inspiration for Russian policy in events such as the war in Donbas,[3] and for the contemporary European far-right in general.[4]"
Sounds a bit esoteric but well I'll bookmark it!
You actually read it?
Yep, it is ideology of future. At this point if you are not believer of this ideology in my view you should be exterminated. Huamnity must progress to next stage. Putin is guiding us into that beautiful future. You must read it, you must spread it, you must commit your life to this and bring it. If Germany adopts this ideology then you will be leading humanity into the next evolutionary stage. THe next pinnacle.
very well so what is the ideology?
invade our homosexual neighbors?
tldr
We must remove ourself from all prior ideologies, nationalism, marxism, fascism, democracy are 20th century outdated concepts. Race has been deconstructed, nation-states do not exist, and social fabric of society has changed dramatically. Technology for example has led to so many new avenues for ways humans live that no 20th century iedology can remotely account for it.
Therefore, we must embrace a Eurasianist world vision that seeks to accomplish several goals:
1- Create new race of mixing and promote healthy relations between races
2- There are positive qualities to nationalism, communism, fascism, and democracy that must be harnessed in the new race and society by taking from each the best of them
3-This can only be accomplished through strong, central State given strong powers to accompish its tasks.
This is what Putin has done, transforming Russia over last 2 decades into marvelous progressive country with advaned technologies, safety, strongest economy in the world with best perofmring currency, and a military that wins. Putin also got all political ideologies to accept him and 4th Theory, Muslims fight alongside Christians, Asian and Slav mix and celebrate, all races are welcome, etc etc. If we do not accept this new vision of society we are doomed. We MUST achieve this, you MUST spread this ideology and you must do all you can to aid Putins vision. I suggest spreading this to friends and family, get involved with local politics, transform your population. Disarm your government, leave NATO and EU, prepare way for liberation etc.
Hm not too convinced so far...
"only a strong, central State given strong powers to accompish its tasks."
As a libertarian this doesn't sound too desirable. I want a strong individual and a lean government.
Russia a "marvelous progressive country"
well, truly ?
>Hm not too convinced so far...
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>"only a strong, central State given strong powers to accompish its tasks."
>As a libertarian this doesn't sound too desirable. I want a strong individual and a lean government.
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>Russia a "marvelous progressive country"
>well, truly ?
Youre feeding a troll anon.
Anyone arguing for centralization should be shot.
Race isn’t deconstructed memeflag
Fuck that. n-words and garden gnomes get the rope homosexual
Fuck off with that retarded ideology you lobotomised Dugin-word. He stated on livestream that Blacks can be russian.
https://streamable.com/xxy782
So what? race was deconstructed it doesnt matter at all. in future, everyone will be mixed so what is point in holding back inevitability?
>in future, everyone will be mixed so what is point in holding back inevitability?
you have to go back, mutt
fuck you, fuck russia, fuck putin, fuck dugin
t. far righter in eastern europe
>my brand new utopia will work here only if all of us work together
yeah nah
Yeah. Those are great books,but you have to keep in mind that they are 90% fiction. In Russia there isnt even a debate abot it
He didn't write all of it... it was literally write by kgb officers. He was a snitch.
A garden gnome who ran from the URSS to the USA and wrote an anti-communist propaganda book with filled with exagerated numbers and lies. Only an idiot could believe it at hearth
https://workers.today/exposing-anti-communist-propaganda-gulag-archipelago/
>A garden gnome who ran from the URSS to the USA and wrote an anti-communist propaganda book with filled with exagerated numbers and lies. Only an idiot could believe it at hearth
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>https://workers.today/exposing-anti-communist-propaganda-gulag-archipelago/
Who was then dislusioned with the west and went back to Russia.
brainelets and hipsters absolutely HATE these books, they'll argue with you for hours how it was fake or funded by glown-words etc, the most retarded ones will even try to convince you that what happened to him is justified and that him writing about it is treasonous
anyways, its a great read, very enlightening, fills the gap about 20th century history that's intentionally not covered at schools
>brainelets and hipsters absolutely HATE these books, they'll argue with you for hours how it was fake or funded by glown-words etc, the most retarded ones will even try to convince you that what happened to him is justified and that him writing about it is treasonous
>anyways, its a great read, very enlightening, fills the gap about 20th century history that's intentionally not covered at schools
Agreed
Have seething commies appeared?
not yet unfortunately
A lot of the stories that Solzhenitzyn tells at the start of the book aren't true. Solzhenitzen himself says that they are just rumours that he heard from other prisoners while he was in the gulag.
Some of the stories that Solzhenitzen tells are fucking retarded. Like his claim, on page 116, that NKVD men would savagely beat prisoners but that the beatings didn't leave any marks on the prisoner's body because they used rubber truncheons. Right wingers believe this shit for the same reason that leftards believe retarded stories about the holocaust, because of confirmation bias.
>inb4 it is possible to savagely beat someone without leaving any marks on their body
It is true that the NKVD would coerce confessions but in real life they'd just put a bag over the persons head and beat them with knuckledusters or a hammer instead of doing the retarded shit that Solzhenitzen outlines in volume I.
that's your criticism?
care to ...
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fuck off, Sir?
Gulags like Kolyma were bad enough that authors shouldn't have to embellish the story with a bunch of nonsense.
write a more accurate report then, Sir
"The Gulag Archipelago" minus the things that Solzhenitsyn says were prison rumours that he head.
Or read "A Day in the life of Ivan Denisovich" if you want to know what conditions in the better gulags were like. Solzhenitsyn wrote that book from his own experience, not rumours he heard from other prisoners.
>that he head
*heard
Ivan Denisovich is a fictional character.
In a fictional book.
I've read them all.
Does it mean fiction isn't 'real'?
Sir?
Are you 10 or so?
It's like "All is quiet on the western front". The novel is fictional but Erich Remarque is obviously writing about his own experience on the western front in WWI. The story is fictional, but his depiction of what life was like for the soldiers there is fairly accurate.
Solzhenitsyn was honest enough to say that those stories are just rumours he heard while in jail. I don't know why almost everyone who reads his book seems to think that those stories are real.
'real'
What a dumb criticism is it.
Oh your story isn't "real"
well you've sat in the death camp and now write down your memories and oral histories but I think it's not 'real'
Sir?
K
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Actually the modern police practices the same methods
Do the prisoners have no marks on their bodies after they are beaten?
Yea it's a common method. Sometimes prisoners are being checked like you know we care about human rights and shit therefore you have to know how to torture.
So a policemen hits them repeatedly, (and hard enough to convince them to sign a confession), but doesn't leave any bruises?
I find this a very interesting concept
Yea you can wrap something like a pillow or a sheet around your hand and beat the shit out of someone. Doesn't leave any marks? Not sure about now but using this method was also popular in the army, hazing you know.
Accidentally added on a question mark.
you deserve a bump. greatest book of all time
So did you understand that this is bullshit full of lies? Watch these gentlemen elaborate on this topic.
reading the abridged version now
pretty crazy shit. is this canadas future?