I've had it anons. Who do I hound in government to allow me to claim some land innawoods for free?
I've had it anons. Who do I hound in government to allow me to claim some land innawoods for free?
I've had it anons. Who do I hound in government to allow me to claim some land innawoods for free?
you can buy some raw unrestricted wooded land innawoods for just a few thousand dollars. just save your money for a few months
>for just a few thousand dollars
how many square inches are we talking about or is land really cheap in burgerland?
i bought 6 acres for $6k, my dad just bought 28 acres for $68k and it has a spring and a creek on it and a well
Is it connected to a road at all?
yes the county road is just a hundred yards away. i stayed somewhat close to the road to keep electric hookup cheap
elaborate.
i turned 40 in 2020 and said fuck it a bought some land in the ozarks. i made a homestead and just live comfy now. for a land, well, house, orchard, vineyard, fenced in garden and chicken coop it was a little over $80k. i paid for it with cash and now my only bills are $100/month for power and $50/month for phone plus a little food but i grow 85% of my food.
also inb4 muh property tax, ots $153/year due to my homestead credit
homestead credit?
some states allow you to file your place as a homestead. not only does it drop your property taxes also my place can only be seized for failure to pay property taxes.
is that your annual tax or monthly?
It's only when coming to /misc/ that I've ever heard about monthly property taxes. I still can hardly believe they're a real thing.
>I still can hardly believe they're a real thing.
they have them quarterly and bi-annually in some states
property taxes are early. Dont you pay your taxes or what? or are you a hobo living under the bridge?
>Dont you pay your taxes or what?
i do, mine are bi-annual, but some people, on their mortgage statement, has the property tax split into monthly
Basically what the Amish use to live cheaply. Also why the demoralization cunts seethe when you tell them this.
You are living my dream. I have the capital to realize this dream but I am terrified I'll get out there and nothing will grow and I'll starve. Should I just say fuck it and make the plunge?
I'm making $120k / year and wife works too so we make about $200k total. But we both want out
Overcome your fear. The worst that could happen is not nearly as bad as doing nothing at all. Sending you positive affirmations anon.
You will just end up right back here. You have to learn how to stop the cycle of re-incarnation to go to the next stage. Sending you thoughts of love and peace.
why do we even think we can stop the cycle of reincarnation? and it's not necessarily a bad thing. you do good to you and your folk, nature, animals and you will improve and your next life will be better, and then you keep progressing
i would say do it, look for rural land without restrictions, as in no building codes, inspections or permits. also no well permits. my soil was like 50% rocks and i have spent days upon days removing them and amending the soil. it will be a ton of hard work but can be done. you can get 5 acres with a small house on it for around $160k near me. your shit will grow if you dont over do it, get a good gardening book and follow that and keep it simple. there is alot of bs on youtube so stay away from that at first. chickens are super simple and goats and sheep are easy too. go for it, worse comes to worse you can sell it and do something else
That's a lot of money, plus you have a willing wife, which is a huge plus.
Suggest paying cash for an off grid place that won't pass inspection in a town that won't care, just live out there and slowly fix shit up and amend the soil. You can put in a basic bitch solar setup pretty cheap if you're smart enough to figure out Ohm's Law and the American Wire Gauge charts. It's not rocket science.
Hot water is probably your biggest bottleneck. If you can get your wife to forgo that, or have a wetback stove, you will be golden.
As for food, you will first need good soil, and that will take years to create. Start growing potatoes ASAP. They have the most calories per effort and per land atea. They will give you something even in less than optimal conditions such as in rocky soil or in a leaf pile.
Also listen to this anon
End goal is land, kids, food, skills, God and community. Think like the Amish.
How did you build the house so cheap? You got plumbing?
I've thought about the ozarks, just visited a few months ago, but I heard and saw Walmart building up everything there. How bad is it actually and how good is the growing like the other anon said?
That sandwich looks really good
Thumbnail made me thought it was a toilet, though it was a nice sammy.
>my dad just bought 28 acres for $68k and it has a spring and a creek on it and a well
michigan?
Land is sometimes cheap in Michigan. A coworker bought some, and it had no road going to it. Michigan law allows you to walk across someone else's property provided your property has no road access. People do set up campers to be used as hunting lodges. However, let's face it. Being around people is great. That's where exciting stuff happens. A cactus isn't going to invent air-conditioning.
A cactus also isn't going to violate your rights, shoot you, or destroy your soul. When people suck, since they hate violence despite being hypocrites and creating victims and committing to violence all the time, it's best to just separate from them unless you really, truly, want a Hitler as described in your hollywod films.
>Being around people is great.
It really depends on what people and where. And in America, it's monstrous subhumans and you're usually in some shitty corporate goy factory.
I knew a guy with land in Northern Michigan and it sounded like a good place to fuck off to if that was your thing. I think he lives in Seattle with his Jap wife and hapa kids tho.
Very cheap land in the upper peninsula.
Downsides: poor soil, brutal winters, super isolated.
In winter, property can only be accesses with a snowmobile.
Pine trees everywhere, only good for firewood, not even cooking on a campfire because meat cooked on a campfire where pine is used as a fuel tastes like shit and is toxic.
Btw, do you use board-feet as a measure of wood volume in Europe or something metric?
I knew this was NWA at first glance. How are you dealing with the karst topography? The only fruit bearing trees that seem to live through the winter and spring are Olive and Cherry. Our property is on the top of a hill with a rather steep gradient going down to a hollow and a creek which means water retention and nitrate absorption is dogshit. The only solution that I have found that actually worked was to get railroad ties and create rows of elevated beds. Soil amendment was easy enough with no-tilling, especially with the amount of chicken farm around here that give away manure too, just make sure you propane torch the surface area every two cubic inches to kill off ground/ring worm larva or other bacteria.
NWA is the white man’s home in this country, and I’m tired of pretending it’s not.
Fuck New England and fuck PNW.
i have pear, apple, plum, peach and nectarine that have made it 3 yrs. grapes are pinot gris, concord, and two others o cant remember on their 2nd yr.
yearly
i live in a 95% non latino white county, unfortunately they are scots irish though
gardeners paradise, long growing seasons. alot of work to do on soil, its mostly clay and rocks. i live in a tiny town with a tiny walmart
blah, blah, blah. most countries literally do 99yr leases. my payment is $150/yr and the county even maintains the road to my property.
>The only solution that I have found that actually worked was to get railroad ties and create rows of elevated beds.
same but i used big trees i cut down
>Soil amendment was easy enough with no-tilling, especially with the amount of chicken farm around here
i used horse manure from my neighbor and straw, plus i took a shitload of sand off the county road.
American culture is itself the problem now but if I had to move back to America it would definitely be to Alaska where you can basically avoid America and Americans almost entirely if you choose to. You're only "technically" even in America due to an accident of history and you have little to do with some nagger or spic in Florida who is technically your countryman but in reality is a foreign alien far away from you. Living in Latvia has more or less hardened me against the cold and mosquitos and other such Northern issues.
Alaska doesn't have the freedom you speak of. It doesn't have the prices anymore either. It's only 50% white. You will either see people you hate or no people at all and will likely need rescue eventually.
You dont even know what you’re talking about foreigner lmfao
Hey I know where that is!
why would you buy this useless land? you can just walk there for FREE dumb fuck
i hired a bulldozer and had a spot for a house and big garden cleared, cost me $650. i also like to hunt deer
You mean you bought a rental contract for a government-owned rental property. You can't actually own any property that I know of, unfortunately, they just allow tenants to larp as owners so long as they keep up their payments.
>You mean you bought a rental contract for a government-owned rental property. You can't actually own any property that I know of, unfortunately, they just allow tenants to larp as owners so long as they keep up their payments.
mate, everything is fucked. Best you can do is be as minimalist and as self sustainable as possible while giving the synagogue of satan as little shekels as possible
> homestead credits
You're a retarded nagger demoralization shill who doesn't even understand how the Amish pull it off.
so how do they ?
What fucking state
bro i just spent 1k on yugioh cards how the fuck do i buy land is that shit on ebay too
https://www.unitedcountry.com/
Under 10k an acre is common on outskirts, around 1k an acre if you're really far from civilization. Land is fairly cheap, it's building within code and inflated materials/labor cost that will get you. This happens damn near 100% of the time when you hire a contractor, he will build half of the house then stop and say he needs a ridiculous amount higher than the previously agreed upon price. You fire him sue, they always do this like it's part of their profession and it's BS.
But anyway yes land is pretty cheap here in about every area, and the further away from civilization you go the cheaper it gets. Once someone puts a stick house on it that's when they claim it's worth millions of dollars which is BS.
You can buy a nice little plot of 2000 square meters in southern and central finland for about 5000 euro. Next year a law comes in effect so you can build buildings up to 30 square meters without permits or even registering them.
2000m2 aint much fellow pekka, 5000 at least to have some distance from neighbours ply and enough trees to build a cabin
2000 m2 innawoods is good enough. Its plenty room for a cabin, shed, sauna, outhouse, firepit and a garden. If you can stomach eastern finland you can find an hectare or more for similar prices.
That's like half an acre. That doesn't leave much room for anything bigger than chickens and bunnies. Cowboys used to fight wars over grazing areas, so it's risky if you mean just use the surrounding properties for food production.
Land is very expensive in southern and central finland, the forest industry is very lucrative here. You can make up to 170k per hectare if you plant pine trees and tend the forest. Most of the "forest" in finland these days is tended and planted scotch pine that's cut down every 30 or 40 years and replanted.
t. lumberjack
I do a very small amount of lumberjacking, and I want to ask you, how this shit works out if you have to wait 30 years for my first harvest?
You have many plots on rotation. 30 years is the bare minimum. Lots and lots of forest here is owned by relatively few families and companies. For normies buying a single plot of forest means their children will get some money, or maybe they in their retirement.
OK, well, that explains it. The US ZOG has harvested forests get re-planted with the plan that 50 years from now the public will benefit. On the timescale of your life, you can't wait 50 years for a return on your investment. For a country, 50 years is just fine.
Clearcutting is of the devil but its the norm these days. One day mankind will pay for its many sins against nature.
A cave or a woodpile is not really thriving it anon. You can do much better than that. Dont set the bar too low for yourself.
I'm thinking about buying this pile of oak lumber. The price is so damn cheap.
It works out to $2.25 per board-foot for oak.
That's like €2.10 a board foot.
My question is, what would this go for in Europe, and do you guys use board feet or something in mm?
It is 600 board feet of lumber.
Forgot pic
oak is around 1100 euro for square meter volume plus taxes 22%, i dunno about cut board, that varies.
Living in a Cave actually sounds kind of based NGL
The hippie with the greedy cunt ex-wife was the woodpile guy. The cave guy was an old acidhead who liked it out there and didn't give two shits about civilization and its associated bullshit. I heard of another hippie who lived in a cave near Moab and he refused to even touch money. People brought him stuff because they considered him to be a saint.
Speaking of hippies, there are probably a lot of burnouts and crackpots and weed growers and Uncle Ted wannabes who live in some shitty trailer innawoods on hippie land.
Most hippies aren't self sufficient, and they don't like people living with them for free, and they certainly won't like /misc/acks who show even 5% of their power level, but it could be a cheap and relatively off-grid option for some. Side benefits of occasional hairy hippie pussy (remember who your competition will be).
Just be prepared to get kicked out at any time for saying nagger in your sleep LOL
Average time till getting caught seems to be about 3-5 years.
Fuck boomers and their fucking snitching for good goy points. They are a big reason why people get caught.
>The cave guy was an old acidhead who liked it out there and didn't give two shits about civilization and its associated bullshit.
Yup thats one of the few who can truly rise above it all.
>Fuck boomers and their fucking snitching for good goy points. They are a big reason why people get caught.
Its always some fucking boomer or karen who get their kicks of off what ever minute amount of authority they can exert instead of minding their own fucking business.
>meters
What?
>euro
What?
>permits
What?
>registering
What?
Can you build a 320 square feet building with a fireplace and an outside sauna in the US without permits or any kind of paper work? Because here you can.
>320 square feet
Yeah, they're not going to give a shit about a random small hunting blind. You might as well park a camper at that point. Realistically the best way to innawoods is with an overland vehicle or RV, no property tax, no worries, just drive somewhere else if told to fuck off. Don't like that area anymore? Change it, live anywhere. There's obviously more cost associated with it, especially initial cost. A real pirate takes out a loan for the RV and doesn't pay it off, removing any GPS devices they may have installed on it. Even more based if the loan was from the bank not the RV company. You don't have to display plates when not on a public road btw.
Another option being overlooked is underground shelters. How would they find it with an overhead fly-by or even if someone is walking in the area? Not the comfiest way to live, but hell none of you are getting laid if you live in a hole, tent, or RV. Even a cabin. Have you seen the demands of modern women?
>There's obviously more cost associated with it, especially initial cost. A real pirate takes out a loan for the RV and doesn't pay it off, removing any GPS devices they may have installed on it. Even more based if the loan was from the bank not the RV company. You don't have to display plates when not on a public road btw.
While unscrupulous it really does seem that as israelites begin ramping things up you'll have to learn to live more and more like an outlaw. I honestly don't even pay insurance or my tickets anymore, even my car tag I haven't updated it in years
I know a guy who did exactly this. Last I heard of him (which was about 20 years ago LOL) he was living somewhere in the desert with a bunch of weapons and he had turned his embezzled RV turned into a death trap and he was spending the last of his money drinking tequila and fucking cheap Mexican whores. One of his favorite phrases was "Ride it all down".
On his way out of civilization, he got revenge on his psycho bitch smackhead landlady by pouring poo into the wall spaces and putting expanding foam down the sink. $30k in damages.
He could have gotten a Masters in physics just by paying $10 and filling out a form, but he figured the money would be better spent on more ammo. He had been going for a Ph.D. and had completed the coursework when a neurotic libtard professor saw some shotgun shells fall out of his truck, she thought he might be planning to go postal, and she thought the best way to deal with that was to get him fired from his TA job for posting a solution set a couple days late. She's lucky he wasn't actually planning to go postal.
Definitely a man far ahead of his time.
Unfathomably based, the system is so fucking corrupt that by living as a sane man you are automatically made the enemy.
>a real pirate
Living on a boat is another option. There used to be a pirate harbor in copenhagen where people would live in fucked up boats year round. Camper or van is doable but doesn't offer any benefit innawoods over a cabin ten times the size. You are gonna need a vehicle in any case if you're serious about staying innawoods though. Quads are cool.
One more piece of advice for those considering the van option.
They are cramped and damp and always too hot or too cold and everything is a fuckaround and forget about having a GF. It's fun for about six months but after that it starts to get really old.
Cheap rural land + Amish lifestyle is overall the best option, but certainly not the only option. I know a guy who lived in a cave almost right under the noses of a whole nest of cops. I know a guy who lived in a woodpile and the council never found him even though they were looking for him. I heard of some guys who had a little hidden village on national Forest land and they didn't get caught for five years, and that was only because some boomer narced on them for selling mystery meat without a loicense (it was poached elk). I know a house where there were bums living in the fucking walls.
Can you get into trouble for living in such a structure?
Depends where you look, what ameneties you want and how accessible it is. Ive been eyeing up 100 acre lots for $45k and theres another 30 acre lot somewhat closer to civilisation in my state thats going for 8k. Neither has water or electric. And neither has access to a state road without cutting a trail 300 yards through dense bush though
Rural land in flyover country is cheap. BYO infrastructure and job though. Land within an hour drive of a job goes up in price the closer you get to civilization.
Most of Virginia is cheap, too, even if it isn't flyover country.
>how many square inches are we talking about or is land really cheap in burgerland?
4 acres a little under 13k, prime hunting grounds
Normal Virginia is better.
>Normal Virginia is better.
West Virginia I can fuck off to acreage and not see an NPC zombie for decades especially if my tract has a boarder with one of the national forests
I dont want to pay anything. animals dont have to pay for land. sea creatures dont pay to live in the ocean. i want land for free.
I don't think you understand how your world works anon.
>i want land for free.
you are too retarded to live innawoods if you don't even understand how the world works and i shoot the animals on my land and eat them
Land should be spread evenly. Each man should have the same amount of land.
>I dont want to pay anything
No one is going to stop you from building a little cabin as long as it's DEEP in the woods; and that's the problem. How are you going to get the materials there? Let's say for some reason you somehow manage to just plant a trailer home, like an airstream out in the middle of nowhere. How are you going to eat? In the winter how will you keep warm? (it's really easy to SAY you'll use firewood, but what if it rots? What if you run out?) If your appendix bursts how will you get help? No you are not going to just "hunt" and grow your own vegetables. Also, the isolation WILL eventually get to you.
I've been a trucker for going on 10 years now, and the desolation has taken its toll on me in very negative ways. I've decided to do one more winter (it's my favorite season) and then I'm just going to make a cocktail and go to sleep, if you know what I mean.
Don't do it anon i love you
>the isolation WILL eventually get to you.
this 100% im a basically recluse and i dont talk to people for a week or so at a time and the loneliness still gets to me.
Don't do that shit anon, you will go to hell. That's indescribable eternal torment and suffering. Please pray to Jesus and ask him to guide you and to lift you up. Read the Bible. It will really help, trust me.
>I'm just going to make a cocktail and go to sleep, if you know what I mean.
Weak homosexual
I know someone who died that way, don’t make the same mistake, anything you enjoy living for like a sunrise with a cup of coffee is worth it, just find a way to overcome your immediate problems, maybe you can work in warehousing instead of trucking, anything but taking your own life.
You probably make decent money being a trucker hermit. You could just go to thailand and live on a beach and fuck young women.
>You could just go to thailand and live on a beach and fuck young women
I've tried that, it's fun for the first few days but eventually the loneliness will come back much harder since you will basically be a foreigner surrounded by emotionless bug people trying to squeeze every last penny out of your fat tourist wallet.
>I've tried that, it's fun for the first few days but eventually the loneliness will come back much harder since you will basically be a foreigner surrounded by emotionless bug people trying to squeeze every last penny out of your fat tourist wallet.
dis
ive had two gfs and even then they didnt fill the void both ugly inside and out as well
Don't do it dearest Burger. I've been in that spiral many times, and at the end it's a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Change your life man, don't end it. Peace.
imagine killing yourself at the exact moment it is finally time for you to settle down and relax
what the fuck was all those years of work for then anon?
Before you go I implore you to at least once try shitting on the floor of a store. Any store really, but the marts are some of the best. The rush you get from shitting in a crowded public place, are you going to get caught or get away with it? You never know. Just thinking of the face the wagie makes when he has to clean it up is payment enough for my efforts. I've been stealth shitting for years and it gives me reason to live.
Seek help.
>while I try to save up for a down payment
Down payment for what? Land/house? No I'm not paying exorbiant property tax. My rent is enough.
Location? That floor looks pretty clean. I bet I could pinch one off in the breakroom during peak hours or maybe 5 minutes before you're supposed to go home.
>Location? That floor looks pretty clean.
Tile wax works wonders.
>I bet I could pinch one off in the breakroom during peak hours or maybe 5 minutes before you're supposed to go home.
Thankfully I'm not a maintenance associate so it's not my problem. Enjoy your trespassing charge in this hypothetical (see: bullshit) scenario.
>No I'm not paying exorbiant property tax
see
$150/yr gonna kill ya?
all over the ozarks unitedcountry.com
i built it myself, i was a carpenter for a decade. yes it has plumbing and electric. its 24'x32' has woodstove, ceramic tile flooring, siding is hardie plank. it took just under a yr to build
Interior looks very american. Mirin nonetheless. Salutations.
incredibly based I would love to do the same thing just haven't had the guts to do it
Can you post some exterior photos? I'm curious.
you built this or was already there that way. super comfy fren
i built it 100% myself, alone.
they are super cheap to run, like $10/month.
11 miles from a town of 800, i have a couple neighbors within a mile though.i i was raised out in the country so being outside in the woods at night doesn't bother me, i usually bring a pistol
Love the split A/C. Good design.
how far are you from civilization ? what is it like at night ? Lots of people don't know what it's like living in the woods all alone.
Two experiences I can share: Central British Columbia, and Central New Mexico. During the night, there is almost no light pollution, so you can see almost all of the stars. Suddenly, all of the shooting stars you miss in the city become visible. You can also hear pretty much every single animal moving all around you. That is a little spooky. In the desert, most of the animals come out at night. So, that's when you need to be on guard. No need for a gun, usually, but I'd have one close if up in kodiak country. Bears usually leave you alone, but sometimes they can be nerve wracking.
demoralization j*w.
>How are you going to eat?
Prepping and canning.
>In the winter how will you keep warm? (it's really easy to SAY you'll use firewood, but what if it rots? What if you run out?)
Backup propane
>If your appendix bursts how will you get help?
Those are the risks.
>No you are not going to just "hunt" and grow your own vegetables.
I do that now. Why is hunt in quotes?
>Also, the isolation WILL eventually get to you.
Nope.
>I've been a trucker for going on 10 years now, and the desolation has taken its toll on me in very negative ways.
Being alone as a trucker is nothing like living in the woods.
>>If your appendix bursts how will you get help?
>Those are the risks.
I hate when people bring up these bullshit whatifs to try and scare you, I can just as easily go what if you have a fucking stroke in the middle of the city and everyone just walks past your spazzing body, woah you just died and in a more humiliating fashion as everyone pulls out their goy phones to record your last moments. That or you could randomly end up being shot by a nagger or a hit by a car. There's no such thing as absolute safety but if i'm going to do die I'd rather die free than as some domesticated mutt.
>>How are you going to eat?
>Rice, beans and deenz.
For me its oats honey and nuts like Pronneke did, they last a long time
>as everyone pulls out their goy phones to record your last moments
thats a strong point in favor of innawoods
>thats a strong point in favor of innawoods
After really thinking about what old Uncle Ted wrote really makes me sober on human dignity and how much people give up just to live a domesticated mutt life. The kicker is they get to live a life full pumped full of fluoride, corn syrup goyslop and on dozens meds prescribe my Dr Bergstein.
Hell yeah.
nagger what about Maui Fires, or what about when Cohen decides they want to buy your property cheap and send antifa or blm or whatever to burn down your neighborhood or cause a train derailment with tons of chemicals near where you live.
> oats honey and nuts
Agreed. I was just memeing with the deenz. It's buckwheat, honey, salt and ghee all the way. Add cinnamon and ginger after a few months.
Nuts are estrogenic, literally giant seeds. You trannies don't seriously eat these do you?
you know you're naturally supposed to eat seeds right anon
Macadamia and cashews increase testosterone, peanuts, walnuts, almonds etc. lower test so it depends on the nut. Same with seeds, pumpkin seeds are pro t, many others highly estrogenic
source: trust me bro
this is medical, spiritual and financial advice and you should take it seriously
>bullshit whatifs
What if a forest fire? This is the actual reason I opted against buying a house innawoods, only because I've seen entire fucking mountains burn twice in my life, wildfires are common in my region.
>what if it rots
nagger are you serious? Ive been living off wood heat for 10 years. At no point does wood "rot" to the point it wont burn.
You stack it a certain way to maximize airflow so it dries and seasons when you split it. Rhen you cover it with a 5 dollar tarp to keep the rain off the top.
In the winter the air is almost always dryer than in the summer further seasoning the wood.
You must be absolutely fucking retarted.
The shills today i swear. Do better, your handelers should have paid the extra buck and got somebody with an iq over 85
>How are you going to get the materials there?
You cut down deadwood and make a cabin
>How are you going to eat?
Rice, beans and deenz.
>In the winter how will you keep warm?
Comfy by the woodburner and in the sauna. Tent saunas are about a 1000 euro all included if you dont know how to build one
> but what if it rots? What if you run out?
Plan ahead and you don't. Make a shed and get enough wood.
> Also, the isolation WILL eventually get to you.
Yep. Visit the nearest town at least every two weeks. Get to know the locals and profit.
It can be done you know, but you have to git gud
Have you ever cut your own lumber by hand?
Fuck that, if you're that fed up with what you have you're basically immune to the consequences of your actions.
You're FREE.
You can go where you want, do what you want, and the worst that happens is what you were gonna do anyway.
You feel like shit right now, but then a week from now someone will do a random kind deed for you unexpectedly. Something like a discount on a tin of snuff, just because the clerk felt like it. Maybe the girl behind the counter will give you a wink. Maybe you'll have a flight that is cancelled and the Asian guy working at the airport restaurant will give you a coffee out of sympathy.
These things happen to you randomly, and you need to cheer up. At the moment they do, think about how happy you are at that moment, and how stupid it would have been to deny yourself these joys in life.
More practically, spend a weekend in NYC, despite the anti-NYC memes, you'll have a hoot.
Don't listen to this retard, the best thing you can do is kill yourself at the prime of your life, preferably at 18-28 because after that it's too late.
Quiet israelite. Stop trying to push white demographics further down.
>Encouraging young whites to off themselves
Shut the fuck up oven dodger
Free Palestine.
Don't do that anon. With your experience you can take a couple of years off, relax and fuck around to clear your mind and go right back into trucking when the money runs out.
If your black do it. Do it now.
>make a cocktail and go to sleep, if you know what I mean.
NOOOOO!!!!!
don't do it!
he
really does love you! never shuts the fuck up about you!
>No one is going to stop you from building a little cabin as long as it's DEEP in the woods;
i built a dugout deep innawoods and lived there rent free for 3 years while i saved money but eventually hunters found it and forest rangers came and filled it in
Literally a country ran by nagger cattle npcs. They think their petty ideals are higher than man and it's because of their petty ideals they die alone, unappreciated, forgotten, and ridiculed.
>Literally a country ran by nagger cattle npcs.
exactly this. The best time of my life was those 3 years in the dugout. I saved enough to buy a place im still flipping as we speak. Its already 3 times what I paid for it, and now going to sell and go back to finding a place to get a new dugout going but this time on bought land deep innawoods
I want to do this. Just fucking build a cabin in the woods, fuck the law. I figure that if you can do that for a year or two or more, then you could easily just build another dugout shelter or something again. Its not too complicated.
>Just fucking build a cabin in the woods, fuck the law. I figure that if you can do that for a year or two or more, then you could easily just build another dugout shelter or something again. Its not too complicated.
exactly this. My biggest interest is if I can build something in a national forest and be hidden for decades and still live off of hunting and gathering, while never being found. I've hiked some areas and found caves that I can easily hide with some ricks and mortar and no one would ever know Im there
Depending on where you live, there are various abandoned ghost towns in the woods. They're overgrown and probably structurally unsound, but there might be a decent spring house or something made of stone for you to renovate. Just watch out for teenagers.
anon stay with us and look up River Dave, especially what happened after someone burned his house down.
it’s a saga but it has a happy ending
>what if
I die free. Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God. And I'd rather die out in His temple
>Muh isolation
Get a dog, it'll be more loyal and helpful to you than any current year human
Can confirm that doggo is best company. You will still need to bounce ideas off others. But you can always get a small solar and shitpost from a laptop or phone when the need arises. As for hustle bustle, looking at faces, going public, that shit is overrated as fuck.
This is why you don't buy 100 acres in bumfuck nowhere. There's 5 - 10 acres plots around the country that are within 10 - 30 minutes of a hospital. I'm a 24 year old goyim who's about to start a plumbers apprenticeship to make money as fast as possible so I can buy exactly what I'm describing. I need 5 - 10 acres, and I'll have a shit ton of land to grow food on, have chickens, put a well on, and be within 30 minutes of a hospital. You make some really valid points, but going deep into the woods is retarded to me. You also can't have a real community if you're on 100+ acres and nobody lives around you. The country isn't totally lost, brother. Don't lose hope. I don't know where you live, but get out of the south and find a nice little plot to settle down on. Politics and naggers don't matter when you're disconnected from your reliance on them. It's why city fags are so political, if the system goes belly up, they'll be eating each other within 2 weeks.
>I need 5 - 10 acres, and I'll have a shit ton of land to grow food on, have chickens, put a well on, and be within 30 minutes of a hospital.
Doing the same thing as you.
how the fuck are you alone as a trucker ? you are the middle of traffic every single day.
Being a hermit in the woods must be a lot worse
>be deep in the woods
>surrounded by gorillions of trees
>can't find wood to build a cabin
>can run out of firewood in the winter
This has to be bait.
i guarantee it a not bait, all of the homesteading forums on the entire internet is full of people like that
Yeah, I can understand your perspective anon. Lots of us in that position. Wish you the cessation of your suffering.
>I dont want to pay anything.
cool. you'll completely understand why i will smash your skull with a rock and take over your cabin.
Find an area that has plenty of wildlife and water and is at least a few miles away from any single named trail or building or road. Bring enough equipment to have a temporary shelter for about a year so you can build a permanent shelter. Either find a cave or make one. Do tons of research on the wildlife and plant life in the area and how to survive in that climate and how nearby native tribes used to live.
You must return to monke. Cover yourself in false hair and roam the woods, scaring anyone you see so they don't trespass in your living room. Lots of people do this, hence so many Bigfoot sightings.
HERE I FOUND THIS YESTERDAY https://youtu.be/0LEoW81mUXU?si=T0Ipu2CaASJwHg6-
The only disadvantage of being like this is that you cannot ever impact politics or fight against the problems of society but at the same time it's the only way to get peace in modern times.
>HERE I FOUND THIS YESTERDAY https://youtu.be/0LEoW81mUXU?si=T0Ipu2CaASJwHg6-
fucking based. all on 2 acres. and he grows his own immortality tea, that gramps is more based than 99% of people.
Based old man, I have special respect for men like him who learned what was up early on
>I have special respect for men like him who learned what was up early on
yup, just watched the whole thing. He realized early on the rat race with NPC is a lose/lose scenario
The only who truly benefits from the rat race are the ones who place the cheese, i.e Mr. Shekelstein. I've seen those who have "won" in the rat race, medicated out the wazoo because of all the stress their "success" puts on them. All the while its really just them making more shekels for their masters and being manipulated into always needing more to
>The only who truly benefits from the rat race are the ones who place the cheese
I don't think this is so. The upper ranks can get serious benefits. It's more accurate to say that most don't benefit, so if you're not exceptional, you might want to look at alternatives. You might want to look at alternatives if you're exceptional too, of course.
That dude is sharp. Crazy that he’s so wise and chooses to live by himself with no one to bounce ideas off of
Open and notorious adver possession ins the way. Will take you 7 to 10 years depending on jurisdiction. Problem is the government has exempted itself from this doctrine as applied to federal lands. Still, maybe could get the courts to rule in your favor.
Do it on the right side of the next Mason -Dixon line and nobody will give a fuck about Federal claims, although the state will probably claim the Federal lands out from under you.
There are a lot of houses being left to rot because ~~*reasons*~~. Then the town demolishes them. I call them israelite craters.
Just make sure they belong to a bank or a REIT or some shit.
You go to the land and take it. Kill intruders on sight. Display their corpses as a deterrent to other trespassers.
Where?
There’s aren’t really free homesteads unless you move to a town that needs people and you can afford to build a family home there to their standards
But, you can buy land for $1k an acre in some places, cheaper too
Move to a town with a good homeless shelter, get a storage unit for your clothes and stuff.
Get free meals from homeless shelter and outreaches, work any job, McDonalds, whatever. Sleep at the shelter, have an acre of your own in less than a month.
>allow
Why?
Isn't he wilderness in the US fucking massive? People go missing all the time. Just pick a super remote spot and settle in. Who the fuck is going to find you?
the only chance to do this is alaska. the usfs flies all over the forest county animals and looking for retards who built a cabin in the woods. they will find it and demolish it and fine the shit out of you
I'll pass on Alaska. Grizzly bears don't fuck around.
Neither does a Saiga 12
The government doesn't like when you do that. They actually have planes looking for heat signatures to make sure nobody opts out of The Machine.
What are they gunna do? Put you in jail for a month?
They will do this, even in remotest Canada.
Make sure your stove pipe is well insulated and is shielded from the sky by dense foliage. Warm air doesn't show up on thermal scans, only warm objects do. Get creative. Use your White male privilege. Maybe borrow a friend's IR goggles.
Based.
Yes, and they will also confiscate or destroy all your shit, so make sure you don't have much to lose if you're squatting.
The guy was a broke hippie with a cunt ex-wife who was trying to squeeze every cent out of him. Having even a small patch of your own land is best but some anons might be broke, on the lam, or hate the antichrist so much that they want to avoid money as much as possible. They need options too.
I loved on the Appalachian trail for months being homeless. It worked out cause everyone just thought I was a hiker. I found a job and a place to live in a small trail town. People want to help you if you’re white, hygienic and not a junkie.
WEF shill here. If you go in the woods, we will find you. If the Amazon drones don't get you, the vanlife influencers will. There is no escape.
Resistance is futile.
this is the prime canadian shitposting I come to /misc/ for
>WEF shill here. If you go in the woods, we will find you. If the Amazon drones don't get you, the vanlife influencers will. There is no escape.
>Resistance is futile.
Cucknadians go innawoods and build cabins by hand with no power tools all the time:
why do white people love the idea of lowering their living standards just to see some trees?
Trees are literally our home you Siberian plains/desert nagger.
I'd rather have energy, gas and internet
thanks
posted from tel aviv
Varg was unironically right.
Ok then wageslave for 50 years.
working 40 hours a week to have basically every need covered sounds like a good tradeoff
good luck collecting rocks bro
Just 50 years? Why so low? Retirement is an antiquated 20th century anomaly that is gone and is never coming back.
So we dont have to deal with you.
Why do browns feel the need to integrate into white societys instead of lifting up their own?
you brought naggers to the new world
now you are dealing with the consequences
~~*you*~~ brought naggers to the new world
fixed it for you.
no I'm sure whites allowed slavery and they bought naggers to work their plantations
Washington was white and a slave owner
Everybody who could afford slaves and wished to do so at the time owned them. It didnt matter the color of the skin you fucking mook.
and it's still your fault nignogs are here
>Browns
>Integrate
Integration is always a one-way street for them. Nepotism, gibs and sinecure jobs for browns, taxes and civilizational cuckoldry for Whitey. They are allowed, even encouraged to be tribalist and use tribalist parasitic strategies against us, but we aren't even allowed to say White Lives Matter. So sick of this shit. Civilization needs to burn.
You said it, not me. But i do agree with you. I couldnt care less what happens to society. Im not a part of it anymore.
you never cared about society or you would've done something to fix it
Dont act like you know me homosexual.
Its a spiritual desire, pre-adamites like you wouldn't understand
You don't hound anyone. You don't bother anyone. You don't tell anyone. That's how you get left alone. I don't think most realize how vast our wilderness really is. You could build any permanent or temporary structure you want out there so long as you're far away enough that people don't commonly come across it. Some random hiker every now and then doesn't matter, they're not going to think much of it. The authorities might not even know or care, even less so about a vehicle that you could just drive away if asked.
Also, off-grid land is relatively cheap. I see plots for 5-10k all the time. So you could just buy some land and build whatever you want legally and have the piece of mind that you own it.
Are you 12? You'd run out of resources and die
you sound like you're 12. the land provides. how do you think people lasted this long?
by living in a working society?
i try to be as self sufficient as possible and during the summer i have to buy meat and butter and oil. during the winter my grocery bill goes up. during the summer i hardly use chicken food since they free range but during the winter i have to buy chicken food since i cant grow a field of grain for them. the land provides alot but not everything
I'm assuming you're at least not far enough to get supplies. Food is free at food banks and any store where the employees are too fat to catch you. Need a vehicle + gas to get to and from town though, and initial building money. Nobody said go out there naked and live off the land.
Find a trail with poop from an ungulate. Set up a snare (professional snare). Keep an eye on your snare.
These anons get it
Here are ideas for OP:
Get a truck. Go out West. Live in a camper on BLM land. Move every two weeks. Doesn't have to be far, could be as close as 100m, although you probably shouldn't be within a mile of your previous spot. Rotate around. Change elevation with the seasons. Be mindful of water.
There are something like 100,000 acres per cactus pig and half those cactus pigs are on food stamps. You can probably get away with this lifestyle for quite a while as long as you don't attract attention to yourself by throwing trash everywhere, poaching cattle, leaving big ruts in the desert crust, etc. Your biggest worries will be sand, scorpions, water, Mexicans, meth heads, temperature extremes (in both directions), flash floods, flat tires and mechanical breakdowns in the middle of buttfuck nowhere.
You can also move to a redneck state, look at the tax maps, find the biggest tracts of woods, and find one that's owned by someone from California or China or some shit. Someone who isn't going to be there most of the time, won't be inclined to search every corner of the property looking for you, and will be too faggy to evict you post-SHTF (unless he hires some bikers to do it).
Don't do something stupid like build a house or use the same path back to your place every day.
The Maine innawoods autist did this for like 30 years, he nearly froze or starved multiple times, but the only reason he got caught was because he repeatedly stole from everyone within walking distance.
You can't. All the land is owned either by the federal government or private citizens.
Sheeeeeit, I guess if I want to obey all the rules, I'll have to get a job at shart-in-mart and spend the rest of my life on an inflationary treadmill to nowhere while I try to save up for a down payment.
Lol what a fucking homosexual.
Just telling the truth. Enjoy the river Dave treatment.
K.
why not buy dirt cheap land somewhere?
You should go to Virginia.
Virginia outside of NoVa is bretty cheap.
If the government gives it to you, they can take it away just as easily. If you want to claim some land, don't tell anyone about it until you've got a secure and hidden dwelling and plenty of traps.
Small town Virginia is the definition of Appalachian and Southern hospitality.
You just do it kek, make sure it's on federal land.
you can usually buy plots of state/national forest for pennies on the dollar, but there's conditions
>have to buy 1,000-10,000 acres at a time
>have to sign a contract that you won't develop it or parcel it off for x number of years
>you don't really get to pick the plot you want
>they just have some available somewhere and that's it that's the choice
you can buy it and build on it for yourself, you just can't buy it and throw up a subdivision right away.
but to build on it, you either have to build a road to it and bring in utilities, which means getting more permits and rights to land that is not necessarily yours, or you have to be rich enough to have materials and a construction crew choppered in.
these threads are always dominated by Americans or at best east/north Euros for obvious reasons but are there any south Euros that have given a thought about the feasibility(both economic and practical) of such choice in our climate(both literal climate but also social-political)?
Southern Europe is too settled imo, we don't really have a wilderness like NA or northern europe/scandinavia does.
I live in southern Bavaria, you take a walk through any given forest and you'll go 30 minutes at best before stumbling onto a highway, farm or village.
Even the alps have this issue, highways, hiking trails and huts all over the place. Italy doesnt seem to differ much from my experience.
sadly for europoors america is the only place where this is feasible due to weather and geography. Who would want to live in a nordic piece of frozen land for the majority of the year ?
because it's simply impossible to do that here. i hope to move to siberia one day
you couldn't look at moldova? i know its a shithole but has cheap usable land, just buy some land the fuck away from people and be happy. in 2020 i was gonna go there and look at land to make a vineyard but covid happened.
i thought about bulgaria or romania since they're in eu. but i don't really want to learn another language
croatia is not in east europe lmao
>croatia is not in east europe lmao
yeah you are, everything east of Germans is considered so to many
that's not the point you dumbass. croatia is geographically not in eastern europe. there are no rural areas here like in romania, belarus or wherever. it's too populated
tons of rural between Daruvar and Osijek. Even your islands have some decent prices:
https://www.croatiapropertysales.com/croatia-vis-agricultural-land-for-sale-4317/
also thanks you croatia for making my pistol
>because it's simply impossible to do that here.
i lived in east europe for a while, you guys have some amazing rural areas you fuck off to
>been rejected by 8 women in the last year alone
>lost licence
>no job
>no friends
>no gf
im gonna go to the woods bros im done im 33 and im fucking done
more like inna outback ya cunt. got roos, boars, yabs galore. can hunt and go full wild cave man in the down under.
Just move to Russia, anon:
https://www.rt.com/russia/402209-putin-proposes-free-land-handover/
I knew a guy in rural California who's family squatted an abandoned mansion for 7 years, and now it's their property. It's risky, but possible.
when you claim it, you just do it unless you are an injun and want a casino or something.
Free land doesn't exist anymore but you can get cheap land in Alaska.
https://dnr.alaska.gov/mlw/landsales/
I'd be worried of not being able to grow any shit in alaska tbh
This is where racism leads you. Cold, afraid and isolated because nobody wants to be around a shitty human being
Not really. My family owns over thirty five thousand acres and they're extremely happy with their success. They started with nothing and built up the land with cattle, crops, oil & gas, and eventually wind turbines. Now, they're loaded. So, really, I can't imagine there being a more sad comment than yours.
I grew up in a big extended redneck family, still have family that raises cattle out in the country. I have family from Europe, from México, from Asia, but liberals will just assume you are racist because they look down on Southern people and particularly country people that put food on their plates every day.
People just look down on the poor, period, sometimes without even realizing it. Then they wonder why country people want to be left alone. Society can be very greedy and hateful, as well as judgmental and ignorant. But society is always hungry, and it is country people that feed civilization.
If Indians can make it in Virginia, then so can you.
yes i bet OP is as skilled as the indians were
VA does have some pretty skilled Indians.
(I'm probably one of them)
anon drunk indians on the rez are more skilled than OP
fuck off leave bedford and go back to your shithole poo kys
You do not want tree roots that close to your house.
>I've had it anons. Who do I hound in government to allow me to claim some land innawoods for free?
some small towns in the mid west will give you land for free, even a house, if you move there
Boomers ended the patent land claims for federal lands in 1992.
You'll need to look to local governments in dying rural towns.
These Kansas towns included Marquette, Mankato, Lincoln, Plainville, Osborne and Wilson. Most of these towns are located in Central or North Central Kansas with populations that then did not succeed more than 1,850 per town.
https://www.gobankingrates.com/money/economy/kansas-has-free-land-benefits-moving/
Kansas prides itself on a low cost of living. The Kansas Department of Commerce said that the top individual tax rate is 5.7%. State sales tax is 6.7% and at 86.5%, the cost of living in Kansas is 13.5% less than the national average.
Fuck off, Missouri. Kansas is full
Fuck off Kansas, we are keeping Kansas City.
That's why we call you bitch
You can have it. Full of crime and naggers anyway. Take Johnson county with you.
Our society is so corrupt that we literally live a life style of working where we waste resources to do busy work and make things that don't last so just we can eat resources. Work for the sake of work is sin. Work should have an end and the only work that should be eternal is the maintenance of things that last and food.
What really sickens me is that the system treats you more favorably as a drug addicted person on the streets in the city than if you were some guy who just fucked off into the woods and built a little shack for yourself.
Yea and how they also pass rights violating laws for the sake of security and safety despite said laws making it easier for killers to kill since it just sets up the innocent as sheep for the slaughter (gun rights)
Yeah its fucked they just they don't care how much you suffer so long as they can control you, life will (to at least any sane man) become hundreds of time more insufferable down the line, and they'll still keep trying to push the narrative that you are safer and better off in the pen then being free in the wild.
I have 10grand, where the fuck can you find land? Washington state seems like it has good homestead laws and so does Oregon.
I could borrow 50k, grab a nice RV then just bankruptcy and ram the fucking deepnon the land
You needmoney for septic system and water and electrical hookups to legally reside in an RV.
You will likely need to install road access for firemen if/when your RV goes up in flames. And you may be required to have a 2000-3000 gal tank of water for firemen to hookup to if there's no hydrant nearby.
These are standard things to legally reside in longer than 2 weeks.
Thank God I live in a town with only a few hundred people and nobody gives a fuck about any of this.
Anons, check ordinances first. Make a Karen Index for each town in the area where you might want to live.
My hunting camp has acreage in this range and it only cost me $40k, but that was right before all the city onionsfags simultaneously tried to flee from the consequences of their ideology.
Checked and this
>but that was right before all the city onionsfags simultaneously tried to flee from the consequences of their ideology.
commieforniafags wrecked Idaho, Montana, Oregon, Washington, East Tennessee, and many other places, but there are still based pockets they wont go into it
In the Appalachian part of OH you can get 4-5 acres of land for between 20K-30K. I plan to do this and build a cabin for my family to enjoy on weekends and holidays in the next few years.
Damn that looks cozy. Bonus points if it requires 4wd for more than 20m to get to.
My plan is to buy 20-40 acres with a pong, build a dock, and buy a used comfy sailboat I can live in and then Im paying only land taxes and not paying anything for actual house. The inside of those sailboats are super comfy and can get them for around $8-12k used
>My plan is to buy 20-40 acres with a pong,
meant to say pond. Also here is the inside of those used sailboats, has everything you need:
You cretin - the inside of that sailboat is from from a big ship, no way you can transport that to your pond - would be much less spacious.
>You cretin - the inside of that sailboat is from from a big ship, no way you can transport that to your pond - would be much less spacious.
i know that, but I have post smaller models like picrel and like the one here:
based. i spend every weekend on mine, and am looking for bigger ones for sale at the marina that i can fix up and fuck off down to the bahamas with.
28ft is perfect for 2-3 ppl for the weekend, but small if you want to live on it full time imo.
living the dream Anon
>based. i spend every weekend on mine
I'm jealous. I don't know if I could learn to sail well enough to stay alive, much less the boat in good shape though. Sometimes consider getting a daysailer under twenty feet, like a Flying Scot or something, to learn with, and maybe go weekend sail-camping.
anon, that interior is from a gigantic sailboat. this is the interior of a typical thirty footer
i always used to look at sailboats in florida after hurricanes, you can get some cheap af. at one point i was gonna buy a 40 boat with good mast and sails, it only had water damage on the interior. thankfully a guy i worked with set me straight about the cost of moving and/or storing a sailboat. if someone is gonna live on it full time its realistic but if not it seams to be a money pit.
>anon, that interior is from a gigantic sailboat. this is the interior of a typical thirty footer
you're right, i posted the smaller ones here and here:
buying a boat is like buying a plane. It's a money pit due to endless maintenance.
Also if you are going to live in a boat you might as well live in a proper coast.
>Also if you are going to live in a boat you might as well live in a proper coast.
I prefer the flyover states. So my sailboat is in a pond on 40 acres where I have gardens and fruit trees and pay super low homestead taxes near Amish where I get beef and chicken and fruits with no shots and atrazine that turn the fricking frogs gay.
Coastal homosexuals are ripe for getting killed by naggers
doesn't make any sense bro. Just buy a piece of land and build the cheapest proper home you can build. You can build a tiny home or a bardominum.
https://www.barndoplans.com/barndominium-kits/
alot of people near me buy a 14'x40' shed and finish the inside. all in the house is like $30k finished. it doesn't raise your property taxes because it doesn't have a foundation. the price to transport a sailboat thats big enough to live in is probably $8-$10k.
37 footers used can get for 10k
Please post this idea more often.
>Please post this idea more often.
not sure if unironic, but still even if it was poasted here daily, only .00001% of the mast based of all baseds would attempt this.
Your a fuckin genius mate.
Post this more often.
ReadyAsNoah pilled
Boats are taxed.
If you can't receive mail and pay a power bill there, you can't live there. israelite Law.
israelites really ruin everything man
you can live off grid and not receive mail, i know several people who do
No mailbox
No power line
No water line
No phone line
No sewer line
No Internet (use cellphone hotspot)
Dug well and outhouse, grandfathered in
No loans
No insurance except on truck
No HOA
No spendy roastie
No taxes except property tax on a place I keep a shithole on purpose
No veggie bill right now
israelites seething.
This.
>No taxes except property tax on a place I keep a shithole on purpose
when i was finishing my house the accessor showed up when i had 9 pieces of siding left. he said he could come back next year if i wanted and i told him just to get it over and access it. he gave me all the pointers to keep my property tax low, one of which is anything without a concrete foundation is not considered permanent. he was nice but maybe thats because he is elected. also arkansas has no well permits, i called the driller and 2 days and $8.8k later i had a well. my septic is the smallest septic tank they make (300gal) with minimal leech line but only my toilet runs to it the rest of the waste water just runs out into the woods
boats usually fall under property tax. A boat is worth far more than a house of equal size.
>asking permission
You've already lost. Just do.
Wouldn't a sailboat have the same legal issues as an RV for perminate dwelling?
>Wouldn't a sailboat have the same legal issues as an RV for perminate dwelling?
depends on the county and state. There are people who live in sailboats on ponds or rivers with no issues
I think the idea is that a lot of towns make it illegal to live in a RV on your own property unless you're building a house with all the proper rubberstamps and all the expenses they imply.
But the law doesn't say anything about boats.
The office Karens might not update it because it would be obvious the new law was intended just for you, and you might sue over it.
This anon is right though. If you want your boat to be movable (which is the best way to protect against legal fuckery) then it would have to be small.
Maybe keep most of your stuff in a giant portable garage and just have the boat as your bedroom.
I'm curious as we want to do something silly.
Just lash together several small boats and make a flotilla.
God damn. Thst would be fun.
I love solar systems and was a mechanic for a few years. Love rigging shit.
Well, if we're being silly... Maybe not even have the water. It rots boats. Just keep the boats on their trailers because you will need those trailers anyway.
When the time comes, you can all sneak them into a lake and do a bit of piracy against the rich White liberal boomers who like to live on lakes. Then sneak off again via temporary ramp (made of heavy boards) on private property.
Skull and Bones digits. What did Kek mean by this?
This is what peak southern basedness looks like.
Nothing Mid-Atlantic about it.
>This is what peak southern basedness looks like.
for $199,000, you can get a cabin with 20-30 acres in other places in the U.S.
I'm good.
Virginia is cheap outside of NoVa.
>Virginia is cheap outside of NoVa.
i know, thinking about making the plunge soon:
It would be so easy for violent gangs to commit a no-knock warrant on that it's not even funny. Look how wide that porch is. Windows aren't protected by even a rugosa shrub (free vit c in the winter btw).
It has potential with the stairs, but you have to curtail the no-knockers into a straight line heading up the stairs and deny them any window access or ability to hug corners.
Virginia actually has a low crime rate.
Some gangs have state authority
Our former governor, Ralph Northam, signed a bill banning no knock warrants in Virginia.
nagger
I am going to do this with wife next spring, good luck to you.
1st point 1pbtid is a slide thread
2nd point you don't ask permission, but when confronted, neither ask forgiveness.
3rd point Carpe the woods national forests and exercise the 5th ammendment
>I've had it anons. Who do I hound in government to allow me to claim some land innawoods for free?
What do you think this a free country or something?
>what are you a communist or something?
That one my boomer homosexual dad said at the dinner table when I explained what you are saying.
Boomers will not allow you to be free, they need you to make there morning lattes ok? So get back to work wagie, Kathy wants her yard mowed and two iced coffee.
learn "stealth camping".
eventually find spot non one cares about incl. the gov.
Check with your states Dept. of Agriculture. Under the guise of conservation you can get ag zoned land for zero down and near zero interest. Land with a large pond (big enough to have it stocked with fish), wooded acreage or enough acreage for the state to plant something that helps local wildlife.
In exchange the state stocks your pond for free, or has you agree to not clear-cut a wooded area, or has you agree to not harvest anything they plant on a certain amount of acres.
wood