It's weird that Sweden built this ship at a time when the population of Stockholm was just 16,000.

It's weird that Sweden built this ship at a time when the population of Stockholm was just 16,000.

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Source?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/Ug56l3m.jpg

      It's weird that Sweden built this ship at a time when the population of Stockholm was just 16,000.

      I went to the museum it was pretty cool

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm#Demographics
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasa_%28ship%29

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why? Most of our "workers" are effectively just pretending.

    You could scrap 70% of all jobs and end up no worse apatt from having then-officisl 70% unemployment.

    But that hurts the ego of "hardworking" wagies so we are content to keep wasting resources to let them have their illusion of being useful.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I spent a day running errands with my brother during the chinkflu lockdown. His job went remote but honestly he didn't do much. He had a zoom meeting going while driving but was muted, we walked around the hardware store and got food during another meeting, he sent a couple of emails out in a parking lot then we went to another shop. Then he talked about how nice it was to work from home but got boring but all he did really was go to the store or watch tv. I'm convinced the majority of office jobs can be done in 30 minutes a day but they stretch it into 8 hour blocks because NPCs need busy work and structure otherwise they'll kill themselves.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No it isn't. The quality of people were just better.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You know these old paintings make the ships look better than thy actually were. Imagine trying to promote or sell a car and getting a painter for the advert. I bet it didn't look this good in person.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They have the ship.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        and it looks like shit

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It was underwater for centuries.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Lol, what do you expect after it's been sitting at the bottom of the sea for more than 300 years.

            wow, you're fucking retarded

            So was the Yamato and it still held together well enough to go into space and defeat the Garmillas

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Lol, what do you expect after it's been sitting at the bottom of the sea for more than 300 years.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Maid yourself

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hurts to look at that thinking about all the women, the real victims. Good that the museum pushes that message to make people aware.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well it sank in port right after taking off on the maiden voyage, so there's your advertising. Anyway the ship is preserved and is in a museum in Stockholm so anyone can go see it for themselves.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So you made an entire thread bragging about your country when in reality it was so shit it never even functioned. Impressive.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nah I'm not bragging. Even though some other countries and cities might have had a bigger population there's probably a similar situation for other places.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I was just busting your balls Sven, bra helg.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I went to see it, it was pretty cool but it is interesting how swedes are so proud of a ship that sunk in port

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And it immediately tipped over and sunk.

          The word you're looking for is "sank".

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wow, you're fucking retarded

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Does somebody have to keep reminding you to breath?

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why? Warships were VITAL to coastal defense. Without them they would be conquered from the sea with ease. A fine warship or two would make potential invaders think twice. Only takes a work force of a few hundred men to build one, and a few dozen to man it.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    wondered why swden is ~~*neutral*~~ unless you're blond, if you are blond you deserve be crucified hence your flag is yellow cross...

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What else were they going to do? Interracial cuck porn hadn't been invented yet.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well yeah when a monarch backs a project with the royal treasury then shit can get fast tracked and done in a relatively short time too, no bureaucracy either

    also they could just offer decent money and hire or force a bunch of people to do the labor, doesn't take much to follow shipbuilder orders

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    thats really cool. wish i were born in that kind of society

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The ship was also built asymmetrically because the teams building it used different units of measurement. The Amsterdam foot and the Swedish foot were used, differing by more than 1.5 cm. This resulted in differences in weight distribution on both sides of the ship.

    >On August 10, 1628, Vasa, under the command of Captain Söfring Hansson, set off on its first trial voyage from the port of Stockholm, watched from the shore by crowds of people. Still within the port, after setting the sails and getting out from behind the shelter of the coastal rocks, under the influence of a gust of wind, the ship tilted strongly to the left side. After taking in water through the open gun ports, the ship capsized and sank, taking with it approximately 30 to 50 sailors. The ship only sailed about a mile. The flat bottom, shallow draft, the huge advantage of the above-water part over the underwater part, insufficient stone ballast and, in addition, heavy guns gathered on the upper decks meant that the unit could barely keep its balance on the water even without sails.

    >The commission convened later did not blame anyone for the disaster. Alleged Polish agents were then accused of sabotage by intentionally changing the ship's design data.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > Alleged Polish agents were then accused of sabotage by intentionally changing the ship's design data.

      Kinda sounds like cope for their own fuckup

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ahhh, so it was a euro diversity and inclusion build.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The commission convened later did not blame anyone for the disaster.
      Some things never change.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Free white nations have been traveling the world by ship for 1000s of years. We were the original Phoenicians and a settlement of 100 people could build a sophisticated sea fairing ship

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why? 16,000 people is still a lot of people. They had the money to hire the people to build it and having a navy was important for all states.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want to go back to amsterdam to the nautical museum.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it was a pan-European effort, the ship architect was Henrik Hybertsson who was Dutch. they based the design on French ships. it was built in 1627 in the midst of the Thirty Years War when they were all allies against Spain and Austria. Clas Larsson Fleming the head of the Swedish Navy used to sail to New Sweden in Delaware to get supplies.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    its takes about 100 people to built a ship so whats the fukken big deal homosexual

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I went to Mexico a few years back and thought the same thing. They had this whole village and thought the population of it was around 3k. Insane to me that they built so much with so little.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It was 50k that lived there and they used slaves to build their city.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How could they do that to those poor african-americans

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think about that often

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >It's weird that Sweden built this ship at a time when the population of Stockholm was just 16,000.
    What did it do that would make it seem like a ship built in a much larger city ? How did Stockholm demonstrate to the world superior and advanced engineering ability ?

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're Western Europeans. Your point?

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    doesn't take 16,000 people to build a ship bro

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Disconcerting image. Pants legs need to go all the way down

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Seriously? Ships ain't nothing compared to some high tech stuff.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    whats wrong with Sweden building a ship? Why are you so against Swedes having fun? Are you a bigot? Do you hate Swedes?

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, its wierd that we still kicked your ass more than half the time in naval battle

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Danes were far more of a maritime nation than Sweden ever was. Makes sense honesty. Open ocean, endless raiding and holdings in England and france

      On even terrain Swedes would get the best of Danes more often than not. Its all good tho

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I agree, we were always better than you

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Easy, boy. Sweden still win overall, if you look at achievements. Stay in your lane (which means eating tainted pork and drinking copious amounts of beer), and be happy

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I will, Meanwhile you enjoy multiculturalism, lets check back in 10 years and see who comes out ahead.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    its because 95% of people didnt live in cities back then. The overall population of sweden in the 1600s was almost 1 million.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    And it immediately tipped over and sunk.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ugh... imagine all the ships they would've built if Stockholm was enriched with a couple of millions of African and Middle Eastern immigrants...

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Sweden built this ship
    How come the sweden never became a major sea going colonial power? Didn't you have viking history to draw from? Why let the British Spanish and French have the world?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sweden tried to become top dog (great power) for a long while, and dominate its environs.

      A couple of problems arose- mostly the low population, but also the existence of more well established great powers like Russia that couldn't be beaten easily.

      Going outside the kiddy pond of the Baltic Sea means owning the exit of denmark. It also means you are vulnerable to raiding from other places in the Baltic. Ergo conquering the entirety of the coast becomes #1 priority.
      It was tried

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    sweden had to hire foreigners to do it
    and spend all the money king had

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >just 16,000
    how many thousands of people does it take to build a ship? stupid fuck.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That ship sank 200m from the harbour, google Wasa ship sank

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    swedes stole the technology from africans

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      YO YO naggerS

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      SWEDE WUZ KANGZ

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is that the one that capsized immediately after leaving port?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yep

      >The ship was also built asymmetrically because the teams building it used different units of measurement. The Amsterdam foot and the Swedish foot were used, differing by more than 1.5 cm. This resulted in differences in weight distribution on both sides of the ship.

      >On August 10, 1628, Vasa, under the command of Captain Söfring Hansson, set off on its first trial voyage from the port of Stockholm, watched from the shore by crowds of people. Still within the port, after setting the sails and getting out from behind the shelter of the coastal rocks, under the influence of a gust of wind, the ship tilted strongly to the left side. After taking in water through the open gun ports, the ship capsized and sank, taking with it approximately 30 to 50 sailors. The ship only sailed about a mile. The flat bottom, shallow draft, the huge advantage of the above-water part over the underwater part, insufficient stone ballast and, in addition, heavy guns gathered on the upper decks meant that the unit could barely keep its balance on the water even without sails.

      >The commission convened later did not blame anyone for the disaster. Alleged Polish agents were then accused of sabotage by intentionally changing the ship's design data.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    do you know how cold it is in sweden?
    it's so cold they built that ship as fast as you ever saw

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Stockholm is a Russian invention cause we raped your capital so hard you had to built a new one

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