Isn't it weird that there's a bunch of Youtube videos of people trying to help others open their third eye but if these people have their third eye opened shouldn't they be out in the world and be super successful since they can see things normal people cant and not doing Youtube videos?
>shouldn't they be out in the world and be super successful since they can see things normal people cant and not doing Youtube videos?
Idk anon, if I could make a living shitposting on YouTube I would be pretty happy.
>Actual redpills on /x/
What has the world come to
have you ever walked in a meditation center? Its mostly old people that have been meditating for 50+ years and still didn't have an awakening. In the meantime the "teacher" of that meditation center is still getting paid despite none of his students even had a tiny glimps of awakening. Same goes for the hundreds and hundreds of youtube teachers promising enlightenment. Its just a job and naive people fall for it.
I'm starting to think this meditation and chakra stuff may be a con
Meditation absolutely works as a means of gaining self control (restraint) and easier sleep.
Once you add in some gnostic shit it gets corrupted.
what you described isn't meditation, but preparatory exercises for meditation.
the "gnostic shit" is the meditation
Says who? From a practical standpoint I just see it as a tool to know yourself.
the absolute state of /x/
Enjoy being mindraped by Thai men. I have found my peace.
Almost everything on /x/ is entirely bullshit, and has absolutely no basis in reality.
I'm a telepath so you're wrong at least on that point.
you didn't prevent me from not posting this
Huh? Also I'm mostly a projector not much of a receiver.
still didn't project hard enough to stop me from posting this
I'm supposed to? Also what you're saying makes no sense.
Was I supposed to?
the opposite ime
no, its just that the majority people cant handle real enlightenment, they never had the bloodline for it
but you do, right?
yes, and that makes you seethe
Meditation without right intent, purpose and training is equal to nothing. Is but a cool tool for the daily being. Meditation, the real deal, actually would make most of these people to get scared
Its just a way to make money. Great Tibetan "teachers" like Sogyal Rinpoche made millions while sexualy, mentally and physically abusing students promising them enlightenment while none of the students got awakened. Great Indian teachers like Sadhuru and Osho made millions while none of their students got awakened. Modern western teachers like Mooji and Eckhart Tolle make millions while none of their students got awakened. All the students of these so called teachers do is claim to be enlightened and start their own following to make money. Its like a pyramid scheme. everybody who finished high school nowadays writes spiritual books promising all kinds of things. There are thousands and thousands of those books and not one single person on earth found enlightenment reading those books.
What about the Authors?
You are severely underinformed. I bet you don't know a single parapsychology acclaimed psychic.
also to add, you know what sunk cost fallacy is? There are tons of people out there that wasted years on "meditation" without having any success. Instead of seeing its just a waste of time, they cope by saying you don't know how to do it or you need to meditate harder. But deep deep deep down they know that they have been wasting time and haven't achieved anything with sitting still on a daily base. They cope by telling themselves it has all kinds of positive effects. Its like with people who watch really shitty tv series while knowing they are shitty tv series and are a wste of time. They keep watching because they already invested too much time in it to abandon it
Thats not meditation but just a breathing exercise.
It's more than just breathing, I've read multiple books on the Thai forest tradition and lusting after "enlightenment" is no different from sacrificing your mortal body in the name of Allah.
Meditation is real, the benefits are real, but it's only a tool to know yourself a bit better. Taking it too far can alienate you from society.
I've seen hypnotists who guide you into the same mental state using the same methods of breath and energy flow.
>Meditation is real, the benefits are real, but it's only a tool to know yourself a bit better.
>but it's only a tool to know yourself a bit better.
Is that the same thing as when I ask you where you are and you answer "right here". Later you say that you go to India or Tibet to find yourself. When I follow you to India or Tibet I ask you again where you are and you again answwer "right here". We both travel to Antarctica and I ask you the same question and again you answer "right here". We both leave for a trip to the moon and I ask you the same question and again you answer "right here".
If you get this, you know how it sounds to others when you say "to know yourself better".
Trying to understand my own behavior to change it makes that understanding endlessly more elusive? Is that what you're getting at?
I always interpreted LoA as a confidence trick, assuming you've already gotten something once, it no longer feels unattainable, and there will be less resistance trying to go out and get it for real since you know you can
Some use it as a tool to con others, many without knowing they've stopped searching for answers. Thinking they know it all and straying into the path of incompetence. But that's surface-level stuff—fools leading fools.
Keep searching your own path Anon, take everything into account but hold onto nothing. The more you learn the more you'll know what to avoid.
I always think of Hanlon's razor when looking at teachers like this: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
>Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
thats the dumbest quote ive ever heard. "dont worry guys, im not evil im just stupid". i cant read peoples minds, i judge them based on their actions. if their actions are evil, whether through incompetence or malice, it changes absolutely nothing: theyre evil.
Let's say you're serving food to people, and despite being warned that a guest has a food allergy, you get the plates confused and serve them food they're allergic to. Were you deliberately trying to poison the person? No. But by your logic it was purposeful and you're evil for some reason and now you're charged with attempted murder. The quote isn't that hard to grasp, you fucking idiot.
It's from the smelly races. Of course it's a con. Only popular in the west because it's not Western.
Meditation does work greatly against stress, the effects of that are documented. Being able to silently introspect yourself is a skill that can lead to greater patience. So yea, maybe enlightenment is not as easy, but it has other advantages along the way.
>Oh, all you have to do is sit down and breathe.
Here is the problem.
yes, the other 9000 ancient super secret techniques are all wrong. Here, this one super secret ancient technique that no one knows is the only one that really works
You get what you pay for. If you want to sit around and quiet your thoughts find yourself a guru. If you want to get in tune with your mind and body find a sensei and take martial arts. If you want crazy spiritual visions starve yourself like monks used to or buy some drugs.
its also to get more western people to become a budhist. Just visit the medittion threads on /x/ and you will see a patern. Make them interrested in meditation and when they start complaining about the lack of progress tell them it will only work if they read budhist lecture and adopt the budhist lifestyle.
Its an ancient trick people have been using for ages. Tell someone he is missing something in his life and that you can fill that gap.
the christian way of "seeking god at all times" is basically a meditation in itself if done correctly
It's mentally enslaved meditation but it can be based
Can any enlighten guru in this thread let me in on the right way to meditate?
I went to Tibet to a secret monastery in the mountains. Someone gave me a secret map to find it. The teachers there taught me a super secret technique that gives you instant enlightenment. You get orgasms 24/7 and find all the hapiness in the universe.
For only 3000 dollars I will teach you this supersecret technique only 1% of the people on earth know. All the billionairs and famous people on earth know this technique. Buy my books and dvd's and visit my satsangs if you want eternal freedom
cashapp and email or gtfo
I used to think about this, when there were LoA YouTubers I followed. All their success appeared to be from telling people they could have whatever they wanted just by imagining it, but if that were true, why weren't they just doing that?
Those channels seemed to disappear anyway.
I often wonder if LOA is being used by the hidden network of demons, or even the demiurge himself,
to create the illusion that people can have what they want, as long as they are desiring the material world.
As in, whether they know it or not, is it possible that all successful LOA stuff ends up being rewards gifted to LOA practitioners from a higher, demonic entity or group of entities, in order to steer them towards misleading people?
I often go into the LOA threads and ask them if I can manifest a better world for everyone, and they always say that I can, but most of the time my manifestations end up with me being spiritual attacked, repeatedly, form people who are clearly holding demons inside them.
So. There's that. If I was the devil, I would absolutely convince people that they can manifest anything they want, and then just give them small versions of what they try to manifest, to convince them that this is the only world there is, and that they are "part of God", even though they require months to manifest even the smallest of things.
That would absolutely be the way I would mislead people, and the occult practitioners of the world unironically believe this to be truth. Or, at least, their books claim that they do, even though they have never managed to manifest a way to stop needing to eat, or anything else that would solve massive problems in the system.
They can only manifest things that require more adherence to the system, that require them to lean into materialism. Seems pretty fishy to me.
>form people who are clearly holding demons inside them
I shouldn't phrase it this way. I really mean, people who-seem- to be holding some kind of demons. I don't know nearly enough to make statements like the one I did.
Sounds like you've fallen for the /x/ soultrap meme. You believe you're in a hellscape and then think even attempting to will a nicer world will get you attacked by demon-possesseds. How is that not more looshy or poisonous to your soul than any kind of LoA?
>/x/ soultrap meme
You got it wrong
The soultrap meme is that the world is a hellscape and that instead of fixing a fundamentally broken world that limits our possibility and actions via its rules we need to leave this gay plane of existence for a new, better one via meditation, astral projection, OBE, drugs like DMT, and even death. It is a mishmash of concepts like samsara, reincarnation, spirit/consciousness, moksha, spiritual energy, vibrations, demons, aliens, and even ties into standard conspiracies.
The christkek memers are the ones who believe all magical topics even LoA is evil and satanic and that merely looking at sigils will attract evil demons from hell.
>It is a mishmash of concepts like samsara, reincarnation, spirit/consciousness, moksha, spiritual energy, vibrations, demons, aliens, and even ties into standard conspiracies.
Correct, it's a very modern mishmash for a very modern audience of lost people to explain why they live in what they feel is an inescapable hellscape. Other epochs had different spiritual memes that reflected their respective sense of well-being and universal order.
Christians believe that God's going to provide for them no matter how their material world treats them, so LoA outside of prayer is just heresy. It doesn't mean they're not basically applying a variant of LoA themselves.
anon you bring up some good points in your previous post, I think the answer is to try your best to test it yourself and figure out what is wrong with the posted methods about /loa/, or why there is a time delay, or what missing piece of the puzzle there is here for why you cannot quickly manifest a better world.
I will note that if super big manifestations require a timeline shift then you won't see those posts here in this one. The poster can't write about it.
It's all confusing and interesting, my suggestion is to try and test as much has you have time for.
Loa seems to work though, even for big stuff, I found a spiritual soulmate. Maybe reality has a veil, maybe they have it partially wrong in that we are all god yes, but a bunch of us split off to experience the same "multiplayer server" (easiest analogous phrase) so we can't do anything that affects other's free will too much... etc etc
Idk pondering this stuff always turns into a ramble sorry.
>so we can't do anything that affects other's free will too much
WITHOUT LEAVING THE SERVER***
left out an important bit, I don't think we are trapped but it is clearly not trivial to leave instantly.
>clearly not trivial to leave instantly.
maybe this is suicide but I would never ever recommend this or listen to someone who says to even if I have often wanted to die because of the potential ramifications.
Part of the issue is you run into conflicting ideas that are difficult to prove when doing external study, but if you only go within you can't prove you aren't deluded..
Does it matter if you prove gnosis if you can just fuck off into your own deluded heaven mindstate? who knows man. now it's actually a triple post stoned ape ramble
I'm not a LOA expert but it sounds like they are achieving their desire via their LOA channel
Yeah that's the weird thing, they were successful, getting rich, whilst telling everyone if they only believe then they could have whatever they wanted. But those people never did, it was exploitative. I imagine that's what the earliest religions were like - promising salvation if you believe, and the people at the top get more influence and power.
But at the same time, I can't argue that the people preaching it haven't got what they wanted (although... it could just be a confidence trick). But regardless, it's still an obvious scam. It's like a pyramid scheme. They got what they wanted, because others believe the lies. But eventually the lies get spread too thin. All the people lower down are just providing money as long as the person higher up keeps putting out content and pretending their life is amazing.
In actuality, they might be having a horrible time, struggling with money, having relationship difficulties, etc, then they put the tape on and spout some bullshit and make some money from idiots.
Most people who think they have their 3rd eye open don't. Just come to this board, someone here has been opening my 3rd eye. My reality is changing.
Its weird how people who claim to have open their third eye never talk about what its like
It's embarrassing to talk about the first time you bent over and opened your brown eye.
Was David Lynch successful because he mediated or does he meditate because he's successful?
Grifters that make a living off of watch time and optimize watch time in a robotic, industrial way. It's practically hypnosis, especially when combined with the youtube algorithm. Shits poison, they always deliberately leave you hanging so they can extract more view time (money) and clicks (Traffic) from you.
I’ve had great success doing deep relaxation meditation through Plum Village. They’re nuns and monks who just want to make the world more peaceful. They’ve renounced material possessions and abstain from sex to try to dedicate their lives to eliminating suffering. Although i disagree with some of their ideas about consciousness, I have definitely calmed my heart by doing those deep relaxation exercises. I feel much better afterwards. Anyway, ymmv. I don’t get much out of just following your breath, but metta meditation is a great way to align yourself with the highest good you are capable of. And that’s really all you can ask of yourself.
ITT: retarded materialist redditors talking about scamtuber redditors
Material implies spiritual. They are dependent on each other to exist
>Material implies spiritual
>They are dependent on each other to exist
"materialist" is the name of their reality-tunnel, honey
Sounds like a teen saying
>if you are an adult you shouldn't be playing video games
The world doesn't completely flip around
>but if these people have their third eye opened shouldn't they be out in the world and be super successful since they can see things normal people cant and not doing Youtube videos
YouTubers whose sole purpose is to make YouTube videos are absolute lowlifes and their opinion should always be discarded.
Materialistic success is no indicator of spiritual success though.
The most funny youtubers are the ones pretending to be some kind of enlightened. I always crap my pants laughing seeing them act really weird. Its really some sort of comedy.
They probably watched a lot of Osho vids and copied his behaviour. Little did they know that Osho used a lo tof drugs and alcohol. He was always tripping in another dimension because of the pills he took or just plain wasted because of the booze when he recorded his videos.
As he was always intoxicated he had that stare in the distance, spoke slowly with a soft voice and always looked bit lost looking for words. These youtubers copied that behaviour thinking thats how enlightened people look and act, so they also have this weird look in the distance, speak with a fake soft voice,, take fake breaths between every sentence and have this fake dopers grin on their face. Once you see it it will become pure comedy
As a legit schizophrenic that can see hallucinations during awake hours sometimes.
For me "3rd eye open" means simply not having pineal gland calcified by flouride like most NPC normies.
As a result you get vivid imagination & daydreams that can be channeled in productive way into artistic creativity.
I'm narcoleptic so I'm often sleepy most of the day which puts me in an almost permanent halfway into dream/sleep state.
Fasting (Food restriction), Lack of proper bed sleep, Chants (Prayer, Singing), readings certain texts (Bibliomancy) and even Porn (succubus invocation) can put easily me into a magick transe state.
I don't have hallucinations 24/7 because that would disrupt my life too much.
I try to keep it at safe & controlled levels.
But I almost ended up in a mental hospital / mad house in 2020.
During the beginning of Corona pandemic lock down.
When the Astrology Jupiter and the malefic planets Saturn, Mars, Pluto and North Node all piled up in the sign of Capricorn.
My 6th house of health & daily routine.
(thus wrecking my health and daily routine like wrecking balls)
A particularly rough & difficult Astrological transit.
>muh i got calcium on muh peeneel gland
oh no better chug a gallon of lemon juice so you can communicate with the shadow folk in 1080p
>muh 3rd eye!
imagine falling for new age grifts in the current year... HAH
people really believe a lot of crazy shit that has never been proven
Then disregard what you’re not willing to practice or inform yourself about. If you’re more interested in understanding these matters through concepts and logic, then I redirect you to a philosophical approach through Bernardo Kastrup, a mathematical approach through Donald Hoffman, or from a physicist such as the inventor of the intel processor, Federico Faggin. Having a sharp blade can be incredibly useful, but unless you use other tools, you’ll end cutting everything out.
now tell me how it worked for the people in India who invented it and have been doing it for ages. Why are they still poor as fuck begging for food if they have these special powers.
Oh, wait, you are going to tell me its a way of life right? Poor Indian people that have no food or belongings telling you they are not fasting because the lack of food but because of "spiritual beliefs". Or that they are not poor as fuck because of bad luck in life but because of "spiritual beliefs".
If I was poor as fuck with no belongings, I would've third eyed, chakra'd and kundalini'd my way out of poverty if they gave you special powers. Believing and experiencing those things have name in modern society, its called mental illness.
Right, we’re talking about survival. That’s where intellect really shines. Yet, why in the west with our great intelligence have so many depressed people, one would think with the availability of opportunity and great libraries of knowledge people would be intelligent or at least supplied enough not to fall into these states, right?
This is not of the intellect, it is of experience - it is inward. “ If I Am The Wisest Man Alive, It Is For I Know One Thing, And That Is That I Know Nothing.”
People are depressed because we are in a transitional period, and do not yet know which idols to worship. We don't even know which direction is forward, so how can we know which mountain to climb or be driven to climb a mountain at all. We've just been unified as a planet by our shared desire for safety and materiel abundance, but still as a planet have no consensus as to what heaven or utopia looks like, so we don't know what to do. Like walking through the desert. We'll settle on something I believe. Might take a long time. As a global consciousness we've only just reached the half conscious state of early awakening and our preoccupied rubbing the mucus from our eyes. We still have to look around and wait for our eyes to come into focus, and to make sense of what we see.
>Yet, why in the west with our great intelligence have so many depressed people.
Thats because the psychology marketeers use. All marketing is targeted to make you feel you miss something in your life. Its all around us. From the streets to our living rooms. You need to buy this or have this to be happy. Social media is even making it worse as people now have a certain idea that they have to look a certain way to be happy. It has nothing to do with "inner wisdom".
glowies attack the first three topics you mentioned
Their third eye could be open and they are evil so they reap the benefits of the blind
Don't be fucking blind, metaphorically, even your parents might be out to get you for no fucking reason