No because everyone's idea of utopia is different, from the monarchgays who think a benevolent and wise single authority is best to the theocracygays who believe that religious doctrine determines how we all should live to the democracygays who think that the will of the people is how we should build society to the corporatists that simp for corporations stealing the wealth of the people like the parasites they are.
Yes. But it will never be perfect. That's just the nature of reality. There will always be struggle.
Could we create utopia by altering people's perception of perfection? For example, Imagine your perception is altered to derived the most pleasure from serving the one world megacorp.
But if it was actually achieved no one would see it as dystopian.
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it would still be dystopian, you can redefine words to make up into down, or neat someone until they have Stockholm syndrome
The first doesn't stop gravity, and the second isn't genuine willing love
A rat with a button that seta of it's pleasure center might feel "good" but it won't be living a real and genuinely fulfilling life, and it will more than likely hit that button until it's fires it's brain or starves to death
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What if you could reprogram brains to really make them feel it?
it would still be dystopian, you can redefine words to make up into down, or neat someone until they have Stockholm syndrome
The first doesn't stop gravity, and the second isn't genuine willing love
A rat with a button that seta of it's pleasure center might feel "good" but it won't be living a real and genuinely fulfilling life, and it will more than likely hit that button until it's fires it's brain or starves to death
Nope. Humans can't even agree on what's the best way to vote for legislatures or economic system or which nfl team is the best. How the frick are we suppossed to agree on a utopia. Maybe if we ever become a post scarcity society where there is unlimited food and water and housing and anything else you should want. But that's seems impossible. Star trek is a work of fiction of coarse so good luck.
All the idiots ITT didn’t even bother to think about what a maximally great (and possible) human society would look like. It would probably approximate a utopia at least. But the masses lack imagination.
Yes. If suffering is ultimately chemical reactions in your brain, it might be possible to re-engineer your brain to be physiologically incapable of suffering.
the modern world might as well be a utopia compared to literally every other point in history up to the 1970s, however we still manage to find ways to be miserable
No.
Maybe GMO humans to have super-perfect genetics (but even then we are imperfect in the first place so we could never figure out the right formula to make the hypothetical utopia work)
>heh, don't you get it? greed is le bad, so if we remove ordinary people's property rights all the badness will go away >you really should listen more to billionaires George Soros, Larry Fink and Klaus Schwab, when you own nothing you will be happy
>heh, don't you get it? greed is le bad, so if we remove ordinary people's property rights all the badness will go away >you really should listen more to billionaires George Soros, Larry Fink and Klaus Schwab, when you own nothing you will be happy
Literally a capitalist rhetoric man It's no wonder right wingers have been capitalist lapdogs for 200 years they just loyal to whatever is in power same how right wingers end up defecting to USSR order cause it was the real authoritarian.
>Name the most unrealistic thing about this image
St. Basil's Cathedral is right next to the Capitol Building and seems to have grown at least 3 times its size.
ive come to figure out that utopia is a disguised form of marxist, communist, luciferian ideology. its basically dystopian not utopian. they are both the same thing.
No.
...but we can do better.
No
Yes. But it will never be perfect. That's just the nature of reality. There will always be struggle.
>Utopia
It's not a physical place it's a state of mind.
Cringe.
Never
Yes, but not in this life.
Yes
The answer is in the word
it makes more sense if the Greek word was more like 'eutopia', which means "good place".
why do we blindly follow mainstream linguistic and etymological consensus?
>Is [literal place that doesn’t exist] possible?
Congratulations, you’re less intelligent than a 16th century Englishman
Is New York City possible then?
yes but it would last 0,75 generations, without HEAVY indoctrination
No because everyone's idea of utopia is different, from the monarchgays who think a benevolent and wise single authority is best to the theocracygays who believe that religious doctrine determines how we all should live to the democracygays who think that the will of the people is how we should build society to the corporatists that simp for corporations stealing the wealth of the people like the parasites they are.
Could we create utopia by altering people's perception of perfection? For example, Imagine your perception is altered to derived the most pleasure from serving the one world megacorp.
No, because that is one of the many interpretations on what a dystopia is in art and media.
But if it was actually achieved no one would see it as dystopian.
it would still be dystopian, you can redefine words to make up into down, or neat someone until they have Stockholm syndrome
The first doesn't stop gravity, and the second isn't genuine willing love
A rat with a button that seta of it's pleasure center might feel "good" but it won't be living a real and genuinely fulfilling life, and it will more than likely hit that button until it's fires it's brain or starves to death
What if you could reprogram brains to really make them feel it?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jsEt7zDxRzY
Post-scarcity when?
Yes. But it is highly implausible.
Yes but only by repression of human behavior.
Nope. Humans can't even agree on what's the best way to vote for legislatures or economic system or which nfl team is the best. How the frick are we suppossed to agree on a utopia. Maybe if we ever become a post scarcity society where there is unlimited food and water and housing and anything else you should want. But that's seems impossible. Star trek is a work of fiction of coarse so good luck.
Possible? Maybe. Desirable? No.
Sure, let's start with demographics
All the idiots ITT didn’t even bother to think about what a maximally great (and possible) human society would look like. It would probably approximate a utopia at least. But the masses lack imagination.
Yes. If we liquidate everyone who isn't white. Take all the resources and land and practice eugenics.
Yes. If suffering is ultimately chemical reactions in your brain, it might be possible to re-engineer your brain to be physiologically incapable of suffering.
>just delete the pain gene bro
the modern world might as well be a utopia compared to literally every other point in history up to the 1970s, however we still manage to find ways to be miserable
Kinda funny how making the world more suitable for human habitation just makes humans hate it more.
All resources are scarce.
No.
Maybe GMO humans to have super-perfect genetics (but even then we are imperfect in the first place so we could never figure out the right formula to make the hypothetical utopia work)
Not under capitalism
Not under Communism either, Sexton
>heh, don't you get it? greed is le bad, so if we remove ordinary people's property rights all the badness will go away
>you really should listen more to billionaires George Soros, Larry Fink and Klaus Schwab, when you own nothing you will be happy
Who said I was communist?
Literally a capitalist rhetoric man It's no wonder right wingers have been capitalist lapdogs for 200 years they just loyal to whatever is in power same how right wingers end up defecting to USSR order cause it was the real authoritarian.
>Ranting about right wingers and capitalism
if you are ot communist then what are you.
Not a shit neo-lib that's for sure.
A Black personhomosexual namegay.
>Name the most unrealistic thing about this image
St. Basil's Cathedral is right next to the Capitol Building and seems to have grown at least 3 times its size.
Yes, but not under any economic system ever tried before.
ive come to figure out that utopia is a disguised form of marxist, communist, luciferian ideology. its basically dystopian not utopian. they are both the same thing.
Yes if everyone strived to be a saint. But that will never happen so no.
Yes but I wouldn't like it.
Man would quickly destroy paradise all over again.
1933.
Yes it is.
The answer is AI/extreme indoctrination under strict authoritarianism.
wellness is an objective absolute desirability, perpetuity is achieved post scarcity; removes all conflict from that point after. clear path Forward
not possible and not desirable