is transing because I want to be free of male gender roles due to being a failed male a valid reason?

is transing because I want to be free of male gender roles due to being a failed male a valid reason? I don't feel like I have actual dysphoria but my kind of personality doesn't suit what a man is supposed to be

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >because I want to be free of male gender roles
    that sounds like dysphoria

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    not really but like thats why i trooned so

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I don't feel like I have actual dysphoria but
    most of the time people say this, they do end up having dysphoria, just unable to voice it
    cis guys don't get depression and then decide it is somehow easier to be a girl than fix themselves. it is objectively a bigger task

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There isn't a gym for your dick, or your height, or your autism, or poverty

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >most of the time people say this, they do end up having dysphoria, just unable to voice it
      I have already been told this but idk I usually read that most people realize they're trans beacuse they hate looking themselves at the mirror and stuff like that, I never hated my appereance I just always felt like I would be more comfortable without having all the expectations that come with masculinity due to my passive and submissive personality

      do you also want to age as a woman? you can be free of stereotypical maleness without trooning fyi. either is valid though. dont end up regretting growing tits or losing your dick, functionally

      >do you also want to age as a woman?
      that's a good question and I'm honestly not sure, as of now I don't see myself aging as a man but I'm also not sure where aging as a woman would take me
      >dont end up regretting growing tits or losing your dick
      well I already kind of have tits and wide hips due to klinefelter's, as for dick is not like I use it and my libido has been dead for a while

      You can be gender non-conforming, go against gender roles, be the sort of man you'd love to see as a role model for people like you and all that. You don't need to transition if that's all it is.
      Do you think that you'll feel more content and comfortable in life as a passing woman in general though? That sounds like a valid reason to me.

      >Do you think that you'll feel more content and comfortable in life as a passing woman in general though
      I think so in the sense that if I managed to present as a woman I would at least be perceived different, like sure I could try to be gender no conforming but I think people would just see the same loser as ever

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I just always felt like I would be more comfortable without having all the expectations that come with masculinity
        >I don't see myself aging as a man
        >klinefelter's
        ok well ur kinda intersex to begin with so is it really a surprise if you are nonbinary

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >passive and submissive personality
        Just be a passive and submissive man, I am starving for submissive bottom men, please don't take this from me if you're not actually trans.
        Transition because you enjoy being known as a woman and not because you think you need to perpetuate shitty gender stereotypes.

        you can be GNC until twinkdeath, afterwards you're just a creepy autist

        wrong

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >wrong
          t. rapehon

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm a cis woman, genius

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              oh well yeah a cis woman can be GNC whenever she wants because women are allowed to do that. lmao once you turn into a fat bald old man at 25 you give up your GNC privileges and either have to kill yourself or rep. unless you wanna be a rapehon.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My uncle is in his 40s and GNC and I think he's really cool for it

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Just be a passive and submissive man
          I wish it were easier to be that while presenting as male, but vast majority of women aren't into that and other men walk all over you

          Bro, in all likelihood you're between the ages of 16-20.
          You're still a fucking kid of course you're a failed male, you're still growing.

          >in all likelihood you're between the ages of 16-20.
          I wish, I'm 26

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Anything bellow 35 is a child.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I wish it were easier to be that while presenting as male, but vast majority of women aren't into that and other men walk all over you
            And... uhhh... do you think that the vast majority of women would love to fuck a passive and submissive tranny, and that men don't walk all over trannies? Or if you think you'll pass, substitute "woman" for "tranny" in the sentences above.
            It isn't about being a "man" & "passive and submissive", you're fixated on negative consequences of being "passive and submissive."
            Even passive and submissive women get fucking beaten by their husbands or shit on in the workplace. Being "assertive" is a cheat code for life.
            If you aren't willing or able to change those behavioural traits, at best you're just going to get slightly more pity from people around you when someone with power over you is abusive.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            26 is such a rough fucking age for being confused in your identity. We're too old to be considered trutrans, but we're also at the age that if we were going to ever be masculine we would have it by now. It's so pathetic being a fully grown 'man' and being some effeminate incel but in a kind of no identity unattractive way not in a cute twink way.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              this hits pretty hard but yeah, I wish I at least started taking some of the feelings I have ever had more seriously before rather than just passively living

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If you were a gay man, would you transition to being a woman just to be straight?

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    do you also want to age as a woman? you can be free of stereotypical maleness without trooning fyi. either is valid though. dont end up regretting growing tits or losing your dick, functionally

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no you idiot
    you're still going to hate yourself
    and if you're not fully committed you're not going to be able to keep up with a whole lifestyle change on top of injections, on top of people hating you for being trans, so you'll hate yourself even more

    just go dedicate your free time to volunteering or hiking or something that fills your heart with purpose and joy. who cares about being a "failed male" or w/e when you're seeing beautiful things or helping the world???

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can be gender non-conforming, go against gender roles, be the sort of man you'd love to see as a role model for people like you and all that. You don't need to transition if that's all it is.
    Do you think that you'll feel more content and comfortable in life as a passing woman in general though? That sounds like a valid reason to me.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      As long as you're informed about the realities of things ofc. Don't make any rash decisions, OP. An incel posted here recently about being devastated that they didn't suddenly stop being one after transitioning, stated that they thought they'd somehow become attracted to men after taking estrogen which supposedly would've solved their problems and expressed general unhappiness about being "hooked on estrogen".
      Know what you're getting into, seek out actual resources and information and don't rely on image boards to spoon feed you information

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you can be GNC until twinkdeath, afterwards you're just a creepy autist

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bro, in all likelihood you're between the ages of 16-20.
    You're still a fucking kid of course you're a failed male, you're still growing.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is probably why like 50% of people troon out now so you're in a good company.

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