It's kind of dumb.
One of the main points of traditional mantras is to pray to some divinity for your wish to be granted, and to meditate on a divinity so that you initiate into their energy and wisdom.
This takes away all those beautiful things and replaces it with pure monotony.
I think everyone benefits from practicing meditation regularly. That said, the courses that David Lynch shills are a scam and if he really thinks meditation is integral to peoples well-being he shouldn't promote gatekeeping it behind costly courses.
I think it funds free courses at schools in poor neighborhoods or something. Which is respectable.
But TM as a whole is kind of a sleazy organization, tbh. Watered down hinduism laid out by an indian yogi who realized he could sell meditation courses to white hippies for a pretty penny. I just don't think it's an ethical business model.
From what I've read it's important to have an experienced practitioner guide you through the steps over the four days, it's not something that can be explained through text or given away for free in a video, which is why practitioners need to be compensated because teaching others one on one is a full time job. Maybe you could explain in what way people like david lynch are benefiting from this scam if you're so convinced it's being deliberately gatekept for no good reason?
>as long as the outcome of it isn't the same as hemi sync tapes, which is to get you hijacked into hivemind/demon posessed, I guess it's all good.
I heard this rumour before. Care to explain? is there any proof?
Not that anon, but many popular practioners under the guise of helping others, and they certianly truly do help others, have alternative motives.
Heard a lot of bad shit about joe dispenza, Having friends who take shamanic practices quite seriously and very well connected to that scene there are alot of of the gurus who will put you into a vulnerable state of consciousness and then "inject" their poison.
See when we take mushrooms, ayahuasca, acid, reach deeply hypnotic states of consciousness through meditation, even drinking
You open yourself up to being programmed. Many people take ayahuasca to be healed, but with the wrong practioner with the wrong intention, they're opening you up to be possessed and programmed negativity. in this space they're considered to be a "Black shaman" or working with evil forces and will curse you.
Again our world works on beliefs, if you don't know about this shit, thinks its insane and have this happen to you, funnily said, you could drink a bud light and say fuck that shit. really you're intention is reflecting away anything that could of happen to you.
Yet for many in the medicine space, they become manipulated and do deeply believe already.
While this may seem "impossible or woo woo" for some, its how our reality functions.
Hence you will see many popular rap artists blasting quite literally demonic images and getting their crowds to chant negative mantras while they're all in altered states of consciousness. Its a massive ritual
In context to what you've said these teachers do the exact same thing. Get you into an altered state of consciousness, program you to be suseptible to dark forces or imprint energetic poison into you.
>energetic poison into you.
but everyone doing it reports back positive things? How can something putting you in theta state be negative when our whole society is built on quick dopamine hits and attention grabs
how does a person who is quite pessimistic, break out of negative mindsets? it seems this person can only start enjoying life if they replace their thoughts with more positive ones
yes. if you know it by name and not by joke (what in the everloving fuck is a "trascendental" meditation compared to a regular one? is it "deeper"? how? towards where? how is that not normal, "deeper" meditation?) it is an absolute scam and a bit of a cult; an elephant cemetery, if you will.
I'll write everything I know about TM some 30 minutes from now because I'm dealing with important shit (while browsing the chat, but what can I do? I'm here forever).
What you need to know before I do that is that TM is both useful and a scam. Charging ten bazillion dollarydoos to learn a new mantra or whatever is a scam no matter how you see it, but the practice itself does work.
Transcendental meditation is just to think a mantra. That's it, but with a bunch of extra steps. >you think the mantra with your eyes closed >you don't have to do any yoga position or whatever >in traditional TM as taught by a teacher you have to do it 20 minutes twice a day hopefully with an 8 hour time margin >you don't try to make a rhythm with the mantra >if the mantra starts to change in any way(it gets faster or slower, louder or quieter, clearer or fainter)you just let it be, but you have to just chant it at the beginning >you treat the mantra as a means to "summon" the transformation that the mantra will unavoidably go through, that's the reason you only have to chant it in your mind at the beginning and then you start to just allow it to mutate >you don't have to actually focus on the mantra, this isn't focused attention meditation (FOM) all you have to do is "attend to it", make sure it's "playing" >if you start to get thoughts unrelated to the mantra, you just let them be, what matters is that the mantra keeps "playing", almost like a mind radio >this is the whole reason the TM guys say it's an effortless technique btw, you barely have to do anything >if we stop thinking the mantra, we just go back to it in a soft, non-forceful way. it's not even necessary to override the other thoughts >I know I'm repeating this over and over but if you start getting unrelated thoughts dont let it distress you, as long as the mantra keeps going it's fine. >"Mental repetition is not a clear pronunciation, it is just a faint idea." >it doesnt even have to be an actual mantra btw. Any word you can chant in a "meditative" way will do. I've been meditating to "nyan" for 2 years now
thank you fren. Probably the best write up I've seen thus far, so I'll screen cap it for future anons interested in this technique and too poor or unwilling to pay 4 figures for this technique.
Did you do a full course or did you also "pirate" it? I read that the mantra you get from your teacher can change after a few years, with a syllable added to it.
I'm also unsure if I'm "doing it right". Meaning, I'm able to get into a theta state I believe. It's close to the same feeling I got listening to the intro to gateway experience.
>body and central nervous system is calmed down >tension fades away >feelings of being lighter >spatial feeling of an almost 3 dimensional space around me or in my mind. The cloest thing I can find that is analogous would be putting reverb on a sound in a digital audio workstation program
No.
You want to focus mainly on the energy of Parvati. The divine feminine is the guide.
>The divine feminine
where can I read more about this?
I get it, but job then kid, ir kid then job? It seems a really bad idea to have a kid first, am I wrong thinking this?
I am asking the gangstalkers and reptilians btw
It's kind of dumb.
One of the main points of traditional mantras is to pray to some divinity for your wish to be granted, and to meditate on a divinity so that you initiate into their energy and wisdom.
This takes away all those beautiful things and replaces it with pure monotony.
TM is a watered-down focus on a specific aspect of a much larger pratice so you can sell it as 'non-sectarian' to extort money from whealty liberals.
>much larger pratice
which is what exactly?
Yes it's a meme, anyone trying to sell you le special meditation is grifting you, there's nothing you can't find out for yourself or look up online.
yes exactly, when your secret mantra is only 15 payments of $29.99 really makes you think...
that's why I come teach for free, because the doorway if human birthright
I think everyone benefits from practicing meditation regularly. That said, the courses that David Lynch shills are a scam and if he really thinks meditation is integral to peoples well-being he shouldn't promote gatekeeping it behind costly courses.
Doesn't the David Lynch Foundation provide TM for free?
I think it funds free courses at schools in poor neighborhoods or something. Which is respectable.
But TM as a whole is kind of a sleazy organization, tbh. Watered down hinduism laid out by an indian yogi who realized he could sell meditation courses to white hippies for a pretty penny. I just don't think it's an ethical business model.
From what I've read it's important to have an experienced practitioner guide you through the steps over the four days, it's not something that can be explained through text or given away for free in a video, which is why practitioners need to be compensated because teaching others one on one is a full time job. Maybe you could explain in what way people like david lynch are benefiting from this scam if you're so convinced it's being deliberately gatekept for no good reason?
as long as the outcome of it isn't the same as hemi sync tapes, which is to get you hijacked into hivemind/demon posessed, I guess it's all good.
>as long as the outcome of it isn't the same as hemi sync tapes, which is to get you hijacked into hivemind/demon posessed, I guess it's all good.
I heard this rumour before. Care to explain? is there any proof?
Not that anon, but many popular practioners under the guise of helping others, and they certianly truly do help others, have alternative motives.
Heard a lot of bad shit about joe dispenza, Having friends who take shamanic practices quite seriously and very well connected to that scene there are alot of of the gurus who will put you into a vulnerable state of consciousness and then "inject" their poison.
See when we take mushrooms, ayahuasca, acid, reach deeply hypnotic states of consciousness through meditation, even drinking
You open yourself up to being programmed. Many people take ayahuasca to be healed, but with the wrong practioner with the wrong intention, they're opening you up to be possessed and programmed negativity. in this space they're considered to be a "Black shaman" or working with evil forces and will curse you.
Again our world works on beliefs, if you don't know about this shit, thinks its insane and have this happen to you, funnily said, you could drink a bud light and say fuck that shit. really you're intention is reflecting away anything that could of happen to you.
Yet for many in the medicine space, they become manipulated and do deeply believe already.
While this may seem "impossible or woo woo" for some, its how our reality functions.
Hence you will see many popular rap artists blasting quite literally demonic images and getting their crowds to chant negative mantras while they're all in altered states of consciousness. Its a massive ritual
In context to what you've said these teachers do the exact same thing. Get you into an altered state of consciousness, program you to be suseptible to dark forces or imprint energetic poison into you.
>energetic poison into you.
but everyone doing it reports back positive things? How can something putting you in theta state be negative when our whole society is built on quick dopamine hits and attention grabs
how does a person who is quite pessimistic, break out of negative mindsets? it seems this person can only start enjoying life if they replace their thoughts with more positive ones
yes. if you know it by name and not by joke (what in the everloving fuck is a "trascendental" meditation compared to a regular one? is it "deeper"? how? towards where? how is that not normal, "deeper" meditation?) it is an absolute scam and a bit of a cult; an elephant cemetery, if you will.
Mental alchemy. It's mental alchemy all the way down.
It's a cult to power some secret deity
Yogic flying should be all you need to see.
I'll write everything I know about TM some 30 minutes from now because I'm dealing with important shit (while browsing the chat, but what can I do? I'm here forever).
What you need to know before I do that is that TM is both useful and a scam. Charging ten bazillion dollarydoos to learn a new mantra or whatever is a scam no matter how you see it, but the practice itself does work.
Transcendental meditation is just to think a mantra. That's it, but with a bunch of extra steps.
>you think the mantra with your eyes closed
>you don't have to do any yoga position or whatever
>in traditional TM as taught by a teacher you have to do it 20 minutes twice a day hopefully with an 8 hour time margin
>you don't try to make a rhythm with the mantra
>if the mantra starts to change in any way(it gets faster or slower, louder or quieter, clearer or fainter)you just let it be, but you have to just chant it at the beginning
>you treat the mantra as a means to "summon" the transformation that the mantra will unavoidably go through, that's the reason you only have to chant it in your mind at the beginning and then you start to just allow it to mutate
>you don't have to actually focus on the mantra, this isn't focused attention meditation (FOM) all you have to do is "attend to it", make sure it's "playing"
>if you start to get thoughts unrelated to the mantra, you just let them be, what matters is that the mantra keeps "playing", almost like a mind radio
>this is the whole reason the TM guys say it's an effortless technique btw, you barely have to do anything
>if we stop thinking the mantra, we just go back to it in a soft, non-forceful way. it's not even necessary to override the other thoughts
>I know I'm repeating this over and over but if you start getting unrelated thoughts dont let it distress you, as long as the mantra keeps going it's fine.
>"Mental repetition is not a clear pronunciation, it is just a faint idea."
>it doesnt even have to be an actual mantra btw. Any word you can chant in a "meditative" way will do. I've been meditating to "nyan" for 2 years now
Ask me anything about it
thank you fren. Probably the best write up I've seen thus far, so I'll screen cap it for future anons interested in this technique and too poor or unwilling to pay 4 figures for this technique.
Did you do a full course or did you also "pirate" it? I read that the mantra you get from your teacher can change after a few years, with a syllable added to it.
I'm also unsure if I'm "doing it right". Meaning, I'm able to get into a theta state I believe. It's close to the same feeling I got listening to the intro to gateway experience.
>body and central nervous system is calmed down
>tension fades away
>feelings of being lighter
>spatial feeling of an almost 3 dimensional space around me or in my mind. The cloest thing I can find that is analogous would be putting reverb on a sound in a digital audio workstation program
it's just a technique, there are several ways to the same end goal