LULZ / LGBTQ

is this the pooner equivalent of "agp hon gets a boner every time she puts on a dress uwu"?

is this the pooner equivalent of "agp hon gets a boner every time she puts on a dress uwu"?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It is, something I’ll never publicly admit is that I got turned on by the thought of having a dick and wearing packers.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      autoandrophilic tendencies are very common among pooners but somehow ftms as a group are a lot more afraid to talk about it than mtfs
      one of my very first memories of ‘gender dysphoria’ is me stuffing my underwear to create a bulge then jerking off, then immediately feeling terrible about being a degen and not having a cock. it doesn’t make a very appropriate answer to ‘how did you find out you were trans’ so I’m forced to make shit up

      AAP is real.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why does r*ddit love the word euphoric so much

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >why does r*ddit love the word euphoric so much
      there are some subcultures in this world that regularly adopt terms and phrases that make my skin crawl

      >euphoric
      >do better
      >their truth
      >lived experience
      >globohomo
      >satanic
      >groomer
      >aLtErNaTiNg CaPs

      If everyone who ever used these (in this particular context) disappeared, the world would improve immeasurably.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >why does r*ddit love the word euphoric so much
      there are some subcultures in this world that regularly adopt terms and phrases that make my skin crawl

      >euphoric
      >do better
      >their truth
      >lived experience
      >globohomo
      >satanic
      >groomer
      >aLtErNaTiNg CaPs

      If everyone who ever used these (in this particular context) disappeared, the world would improve immeasurably.

      "Euphoria" is a comforting way of dealing with AGP/AAP feels.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I actually don’t use the term euphoria because it’s pathetic cope

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This board is much more self-aware about both AGP and AAP

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    autoandrophilic tendencies are very common among pooners but somehow ftms as a group are a lot more afraid to talk about it than mtfs
    one of my very first memories of ‘gender dysphoria’ is me stuffing my underwear to create a bulge then jerking off, then immediately feeling terrible about being a degen and not having a cock. it doesn’t make a very appropriate answer to ‘how did you find out you were trans’ so I’m forced to make shit up

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Once I admitted to having autoandrophilic tendencies in an anonymous channel on an ftm discord.

      They literally did a 2 week long witch hunt to figure how who posted the confession so they could ban me

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        lol do women really

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They do anon, they’re the stuck up “HSTS” ftms that cling onto being lesbian
        It’s fucking pathetic

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Wrong reply, shit

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Once I admitted to having autoandrophilic tendencies in an anonymous channel on an ftm discord.
        >They literally did a 2 week long witch hunt to figure how who posted the confession so they could ban me
        did they find out it was you

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nope, only one guy figured it out by accident but I managed to get him to keep his mouth shut.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            how did he figure?

            why was everyone even so upset about an aap being in the server?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No idea, the server was just circlejerking about AAP and AGP being LE BAD!

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              He saw me accidentally admit to being AAP one time

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Once I admitted to having autoandrophilic tendencies in an anonymous channel on an ftm discord.

      They literally did a 2 week long witch hunt to figure how who posted the confession so they could ban me

      >ftms screeching about how oppressed they are in their imagination
      i didn't think ftms were women until i listened to how you people talk, but now i know better.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        no one talked about oppression you retarded schizo. meds now

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oppression wasn’t mentioned you homosexual

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it's persecution fetish more than anything else in both cases idk where oppression comes into play here, there's a difference between the two.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You think me writing about how “HSTS” ftms don’t like people mentioning autoandrophilia and will go to lengths to keep AAPs out is some sort of fetish?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >persecution fetish
          I don’t think anyone think’s they’re being persecuted for being aap anon, you’re reading far more into than necessary for no reason

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          [...]
          >ftms screeching about how oppressed they are in their imagination
          i didn't think ftms were women until i listened to how you people talk, but now i know better.

          schizo post but also jesus christ anon you have clearny never seen more than 2 cis women interact with each other because what they were describing is standard female socialization bullshit leaking into pooner spaces

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >autoandrophilic tendencies are very common among pooners
      huh that's quite similar to mine (mtf)

      Tbh I don't think it's "freaky" or anything though? Like lana del rey is "AGP" there's more normal forms of it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah

      >somehow ftms as a group are a lot more afraid to talk about it than mtfs
      i don't even understand why since it's technically less invalidating
      but i guess pooners are more gatekeepy on average so people might be reluctant to discuss their dysphoria in general for fear of getting dogpiled by angry truscums

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty much, truscoooms will dogpile on every fucking time

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Kinda based honestly. I sort of "knew" before I ever did anything sexual, but I wouldn't really admit to myself that much that I was trans or even if I was admitting it to myself at times I wouldn't do anything about it. I honestly didn't masturbate until probably abnormally late because having a dick just always felt wrong to me, like it shouldn't be there and I shouldn't touch it. I'm almost sure I put things up my ass before ever trying anything with my dick. I remember going to bed each night wishing I'd wake up as a girl, being jealous of the girls' groups in school once there started being a sex divide, briefly trying out religion and praying to just be a girl and asking why God did this to me, losing faith, getting interested in the occult and trying out magick and pacts to fix myself, and I even remember finding out about transition as a kid and I remember talking about it online how I wanted to do it, but I somehow STILL couldn't admit I was trans or actually try to do anything to transition. Agony, I could have been a youngshit, and I'm still the same way now, still haven't transitioned even though I want to desperately and not doing it is killing me.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what's preventing your transition?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I have anxiety problems and I'm really indecisive in general and procrastinate a lot, so that on top of having huge hangups about transitioning like worrying if I'll be able to pass and compulsively checking over and over if I possibly could pass, and worrying about how people will treat me and react and stuff keeps making me really nervous and I want to start but it's like "I'm too scared to do it today, I'm going to put it off until tomorrow even though living like this makes me want to die," I guess that kind of stuff.

          I really hate how Blanchard poisoned the well. This pattern of arousal is real and weird but because people constantly insist that it's why we're trans everyone's too ashamed to discuss it properly. It's really ruinous.

          Yeah, it kinda sucks. I probably have some mild AGP tendencies but they're so so so far from the reason why I want to transition. Occasionally, some transition related stuff will mildly turn me on briefly and I really have no idea why and I don't like that it does. I have a super low libido in general, though, and usually it doesn't happen to me, but sometimes... I dunno if it's AGP but I almost like romanticize the idea of my female self, like I'd feel nice looking in the mirror and seeing her look back at me, but it wouldn't really turn me on. I don't know, it's kinda weird to explain, but I think you get the idea? That's not really why I want to transition, though, it's almost more like a side thing to just feeling generally wrong being male and having this constant sense that everything is wrong that I want to go away, and when I imagine myself as a woman things feel way more right to me.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You can always boymode until you feel confident passing, if it's killing you there's no reason to delay.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, I could, but I'm also worried that somehow I'll regret it even though I hate being like this and I've wanted it my whole life. I think that probably my relationship will end if I troon out, too. I already told my partner that I thought I was trans and we're still together, but... I dunno. I want this stability and hate taking risks even though, like, I'm kinda miserable how I am now. I know it's totally not rational at all and that I should just say fuck it and do it, you know, and see if it makes me feel better but... it's hard.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you probably won't regret it as much as you'll regret not trooning out
                biggest complaint about transition i hear from afab detrans is the waste of time rather than anything physical unless they got fucked particularly badly

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm AMAB, though. Wish I was AFAB 🙁
                I probably would regret not trooning out even worse considering I regret not trooning out years ago already a lot.

                >and usually what I hear is once trans women transition, they're not as interested in that kind of stuff anymore because they don't need it as much, and that kind of stuff doesn't really turn them on as much because they're finally living it and they're used to it.
                Be careful about getting too hopeful about this. Yes the "AGP" does sometimes go away or lessen but sometimes it doesn't.

                I've seen trans women get too invested in wanting it to go and then being upset and feeling faketrans when they continue getting turned on by what they consider AGP.

                I'm personally like low libido and I almost never masturbate so trying to like cure AGP isn't my motivation. I don't think I'll really care if the same stuff still turns me on, it won't make me feel fake or anything, there are cis women who straight up get turned on by looking in a mirror while they're getting fucked. But, yeah, like, my motivation is more like my own body always having felt wrong to me, wishing I was more feminine, feeling way happier and more content when I imagine myself as a woman, that kind of thing.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah i only brought up afabs cause it's seen as a more "severe" detransition than just having gyno and they still handle it pretty well usually

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, that's true, tits gone forever and fucking up hairline and voice and stuff like that. I'd just have to get my tits cut off and be sterile, not that I was planning on having kids anyways, and I'd bank sperm first just in case. I doubt I'd detransition anyways, unless like I totally just wouldn't be able to pass ever or like my life was in danger.

                Different Anon but it would be a nightmare for me. I feel so bad every time clothes or something innocent like that make me have that reaction. I don't think I'd be able to present as a woman if it kept happening to me forever.

                Sometimes innocent stuff makes me feel slightly excited, nothing crazy, but god it feels gross. I heard it usually goes away though because living it all of the time like makes you used to it. I don't think it would be a huge issue for me, though, I don't get too excited and it doesn't happen much. It mostly just feels more like... Right, I guess.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I think you get the idea?
            I do. I've been there and much further. Gross forced fem fantasies and erotic cross-dressing included. I also felt deeply dissociated from my body and life ever since I was a teen, to the point where I could barely function sometimes. I remember feeling like I was melting on some days. And people tell me that it's because of my awful sexuality? It makes no sense at all. Obviously growing up all wrong messed it up somehow. I'm trans and growing up in a male body while wanting to be female and liking women got me all crosswired. That's what I strongly believe but people will just insult me and say they know me better than I do because I'm gross. I hate it.

            So I believe you, Anon, and hope you can find your way. Transitioning helped me a lot even if things aren't perfect for me.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I believe you and understand you even if a lot of other people don't. It really fucks up your head growing up as the wrong gender and feeling like everything is just fake and off. I like women too, but I also like men, and growing up like that while hating being a boy and wanting to be a girl but feeling ashamed and in denial over wanting to be a girl and liking boys made me really jacked up in the head. It makes complete sense that sexual preferences can get kind of weird from all of that scrambling, yeah, I think they have the cause and effect backwards. Plus, I think fetish porn stuff is kind of a somewhat common escape and cope, and usually what I hear is once trans women transition, they're not as interested in that kind of stuff anymore because they don't need it as much, and that kind of stuff doesn't really turn them on as much because they're finally living it and they're used to it.

              I hope so too, I think it's pretty clear what I need to do because of how ridiculously in-common my experiences are with trans women, and how pretty much universally they all say transition made them feel so much better. I'm not expecting it to be perfect, but I think if I can at least mostly pass and not get treated like dirt, I'd feel so so so much better than I do now.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You put it very well. Thanks. While I'm still pretty early into my transition and not completely over these feelings my libido plummeted so I only experience them once every few months or so. I couldn't be happier about that, frankly. It's freeing. I hope that eventually I'll be able to put this behind me completely.

                Good luck with your journey. You seem thoughtful and kind. I'm sure you'll make it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >and usually what I hear is once trans women transition, they're not as interested in that kind of stuff anymore because they don't need it as much, and that kind of stuff doesn't really turn them on as much because they're finally living it and they're used to it.
                Be careful about getting too hopeful about this. Yes the "AGP" does sometimes go away or lessen but sometimes it doesn't.

                I've seen trans women get too invested in wanting it to go and then being upset and feeling faketrans when they continue getting turned on by what they consider AGP.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Different Anon but it would be a nightmare for me. I feel so bad every time clothes or something innocent like that make me have that reaction. I don't think I'd be able to present as a woman if it kept happening to me forever.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You're not gross. Please don't feel that way. Your feelings are valid and natural and just the way you are as an individual. Not awful, just dissociating when your body is wrong.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >but sometimes... I dunno if it's AGP but I almost like romanticize the idea of my female self, like I'd feel nice looking in the mirror and seeing her look back at me, but it wouldn't really turn me on.
            AGP is much more like true, romantic love than merely some kink. Being female offers happiness on a deep, profoundly personal level that can only be felt, while being male is just wrong in a way that can't really be described to someone who doesn't feel it.

            Yes there's the sexual side too but that's hardly all it is, perhaps especially for low-libido trans women like you.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AAP is much less common in AFABs.

    Even like 30% of HSTS are autogynephiles on the side.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    but do they want to fuck things with their dicks or do they just want them to dangle?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We want to fuck things anon

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        based, thank you

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I really hate how Blanchard poisoned the well. This pattern of arousal is real and weird but because people constantly insist that it's why we're trans everyone's too ashamed to discuss it properly. It's really ruinous.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I get AAP as much as the next person but over packers? The idea of packing always induces disgust in me

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's whatever helps you imagine yourself as the correct sex. Same way some AGPs like female clothes for building the mental image of themselves as female but others feel dysphoric in female clothes because it reminds them of male traits.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There is no equivalent cause mens sex drives are different. Its weird if a woman is turned on by her own body or what she wears but this is not the case for men

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Its weird if a woman is turned on by her own body or what she wears but this is not the case for men

  9. 2 weeks ago
    ArabMan

    Why is everyone in this thread overthinking this instead of just using common sense. Packing relieves gender dysphoria for a lot of people and having less gender dysphoria makes it easier to feel good about yourself.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >person does something positive for their body image
      >feels good about it
      so much this honestly

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'd let a FtM borrow my dick for a week if I could.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I used to put a tiny stuffed animals in my briefs to look like other boys and it did cause arousal, possibly just because its directly rubbing on genitals. I tried packing as an adult but it was nothing but annoying

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm curious to hear how FTMs feel about these feelings. I heard so much from MTFs, and usually about intense shame and disgust, but I wonder if it's the same for them.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I mean, probably. Men and women aren't as different as a lot of people like to think.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's more confusing than embarassing but i'm autistic and kinda don't have a proper grasp on what's supposed to be shameful

Your email address will not be published.