Is this refutable?

Is this refutable?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    God isn't real.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The things in the world which exist contrary to God's law arise from the wills of created beings who have been given freedom of action by God. God does not feel anger; this is a figure of speech called anthropopathy.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Wrong, see my thread about God hardening Pharaoh's heart. Not the only time he has violated freewill.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Wrong
        Wrong

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          None of that shit is in the OT. Also, God created Pharaoh's entire life. He created all the conditions that led to Pharaoh's choice. God hardened Pharaoh's heart and to say otherwise is to deny God's omnipotence.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >None of that shit is in the OT.
            And? His reasoning is sound. The NT is in infallible interpretation of the OT.
            >Also, God created Pharaoh's entire life.
            Then your idea that God "violated" his will is invalid.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            If freewill is powerless, then God is the cause of sin.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >None of that shit is in the OT.
            NOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT APPEAL TO YOUR CHURCH FATHERS THATS UNFAIR TO ME!!!!!!
            >Also, God created Pharaoh's entire life. He created all the conditions that led to Pharaoh's choice. God hardened Pharaoh's heart and to say otherwise is to deny God's omnipotence.
            Well as you presupposed free will exists, so you already accepted that God reduced himself in order to give us (and pharaoh) free will.
            >God hardened Pharaoh's heart
            Yeah but under the conditions you already established he could easily do so without infringing on his free will.
            All positive aspects flow from God, so by God withdrawing his grace from Pharaoh he would ipso-facto fall into a state of having a hardened heart as he would no longer be capable of being humble.
            To imply that this is an infringement on your free will it to imply God owes you something which is a position you can’t substantiate.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Origen
          Isn't that the guy who cut his dick off because Jesus said to?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            This was a rumor created by his adversaries, which he denied. There's no proof it happened.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Wrong
      Wrong

      /thread
      OPs homosexual ass BTFO yet again.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah that strawman is totally undefeated bro, keep posting it

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      How is a logical fallacy a strawman? Just curious?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It’s a projection of atheists saying “if god so big and powerful, why don’t he jus take da bad out?”
        Strawman IS the logical fallacy, your particular misunderstanding of doctrine doesn’t qualify as an argument

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I don't think you understand what a strawman is?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You’re misrepresenting Christianity fren
            I get you’re a spiteful chud, but pretending that the OP is in any way truthful is just a larp

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >“if god so big and powerful, why don’t he jus take da bad out?”
          but why doesn't he?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >if god so big and powerful, why don’t he jus take da bad out?
            Well, why?

            Why should he? It’s not like he put the evil in the world, it’s not like we’re incapable of combatting evil, it’s not like evil is pointless

            Also, when two countries go to war, are they not viewing each other as evil? In the literalist atheist mindset, where magic sky daddy just disappears whatever he dislikes, do these two countries pop out of existence? Who gets final say over which is truly evil?
            >inb4 omniscient god will know what’s evil, and zap it from existence
            if he is omniscient, how can you ascribe subjectivity to his actions? That wouldn’t be very godlike

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          This is exactly right. It is characteristic of an atheist midwit to argue against a childish caricature of their opponent like many people in this thread, as if the majority of Christians literally believe that an anthropomorphic deity is sitting in the clouds pouting at you every time you jerk off.

          As for the strawman thing, I don't know how there's even room for debate here. It couldn't be more clear actually, even the sketch of God in OP's carries the essentiality of a strawman. In the most complete sense that term can bear, it is a strawman. You would have to be actually moronic to deny this.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >muh strawman
            No, it's satire you dumbass.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            LMAOOOOOO
            “No it’s valid. Because it’s satire.”
            You must be in high school

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >TWAS MERELY PRETENDING

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >as if the majority of Christians literally believe that an anthropomorphic deity is sitting in the clouds
            The selective metaphor cope is getting so stale I'm seeing mold on it.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You’re just as moronic as what you’re arguing against, because you can’t get past the literalist view of Christianity
            You can’t into abstract thinking, you’re a low awareness fleshbot and you’re seething at your lack of a soul

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >You’re just as moronic as what you’re arguing against
            At least you admit the christcuckery is moronic. I really can't ask for much more than that.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            At least you admit you can only grasp at the lowest hanging fruit of Christianity
            Your delusion is really impressive actually

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You are correct in saying that there's a mass variety of interpretations on various parts of the Bible. But on this central point, the existence of God, most do not conceive of God in the way you atheists imagine they do, which is some childish infantile "sky daddy" meme figure that watches them jerk off. The very fact that this caricature, which no Christian actually believes, is what you people highlight and choose to ridicule shows that you have a more profane and childish conception of religion than the believers you mock.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >if god so big and powerful, why don’t he jus take da bad out?
          Well, why?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Not him but, if God believes we need to be able to choose between good and bad for this to have any meaning, "jus take da bad out" removes the point of having a choice.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >life is a test
            >but the playing field you are born into has comically uneven starting positions

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Are you complaining that there isn't an evenly distributed test?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Yes. Obviously.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            That's silly, we're not all the same person, why would we get the same test?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Nonsensical post. GG.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Not at all, you just expect something absurd. I accept ypur concession

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >developing ALS is a choice

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            How you respond to it is.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            So god just tortures people for the lulz to watch how they react to it and send them to eternal damnation if they aren't grateful enough for the torture inflicted?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            1. Death, disease, and suffering are due to sin, which is willed by humans.
            2. We go to hell because of our sins. Our actions in this life matter and we are judged according to what we do.
            3. One does not need to be grateful for suffering, but neither one should one allow suffering to induce despair and lead to further sin.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >developing ALS is a choice

            [...]
            Why should he? It’s not like he put the evil in the world, it’s not like we’re incapable of combatting evil, it’s not like evil is pointless

            Also, when two countries go to war, are they not viewing each other as evil? In the literalist atheist mindset, where magic sky daddy just disappears whatever he dislikes, do these two countries pop out of existence? Who gets final say over which is truly evil?
            >inb4 omniscient god will know what’s evil, and zap it from existence
            if he is omniscient, how can you ascribe subjectivity to his actions? That wouldn’t be very godlike

            >It’s not like he put the evil in the world
            If he can't even stop babies from being raped, why is he worth worshiping?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >If God won't remove my will then I won't decide to worship him

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Atheists are so desperate for attention that theyll take a stance with “free will” and say they don’t believe in god, but they didn’t address the fact that free will was given to them by god in the first place

            Atheism is always secondary to something else, as a justification for being:
            >a hedonist
            >a materialist
            >a contrarian

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >but they didn’t address the fact that free will was given to them by god in the first place
            I don't agree with your logic here. I'm a nonbeliever, guess you could call me athiest. As a nonbeliever, I don't subscribe to your above quote. So where is my error?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            The error is in the logic of refusing to worship God based upon God not sufficiently restricting human will, which human will is the means by which you would worship God in the first place.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >The error is in the logic of refusing to worship God based upon God not sufficiently restricting human will, which human will is the means by which you would worship God in the first place.
            That's not my reason though. I just don't find the evidence of God compelling.

            Why are you having a conscious experience right now?

            Couldn't tell ya.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I could tell ya, but you won’t be convinced!

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Now you're getting it.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            So we agree you’re ignorant?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Well as far as I know the "why" of reality hasn't been discovered yet, so we all are.
            On a more practical level, consciousness ceases with death, so I guess I'm conscious because I'm alive.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >The error is in the logic of refusing to worship God based upon God not sufficiently restricting human will, which human will is the means by which you would worship God in the first place.
            This seems logically... strange.
            The hypothetical athiest you are describing seems to be saying that a God who allows mass death, suffering, pain, etc is not worth worshipping. If all those horrible things are nessessary for us to have the ability to worship him, doesn't that hurt *your* point?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            They aren't necessary for us to worship him, but they are necessarily possible if humans have the ability to reject what is good.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I still don't think this helps your position.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            It does, because you refuse to utilize your will to worship God unless God removes your will. Your position is absurd.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I just don't think this is a very convincing line of argument.
            Saying the possibility of horror and terror is necessary for the possibly of choosing to believe in God just makes God seem like a bad game dev, or an author that wrote himself into a corner.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            The rejection of God is horror, and terror, and death; because God is peace, and comfort, and life.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Ok. Agree to disagree.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >because God is peace, and comfort, and life
            >literally creates a place where you burn forever if you didn't grovel hard enough

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You're punished in hell for your sins. Everything you do in this life will be judged, and you will pay for any evil that you have committed. God holds out forgiveness to you freely, through Jesus Christ. Repent and put your faith in him.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Why are you having a conscious experience right now?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You need a justification to not believe in some bullshit? Also no, religious people are the ones desperate for attention.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Yes. Apparently he isn't able to save people from terrible pain. Seems like a demigod at best.

            Not at all, you just expect something absurd. I accept ypur concession

            >two people born into radically different circumstances are equally likely to sin

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Apparently he isn't able to save people from terrible pain.
            He is, and sometimes he does. But he has no obligation to.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            How is this not changing your argument?
            >free will caused the baby rape
            >but sometimes he steps in and... stops free will?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I was actually referring to healing miracles. But if a man is on his way to rape someone, but gets hit by a car and dies, did God stop him? Who knows.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >two people born into radically different circumstances are equally likely to sin
            And?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Cuz he is the moral backbone of society lol
            At the risk of sounding callous, but having a disease or disability doesn’t impinge on morality. Bringing up random horrific diseases is similar to blasphemy: you’re just trying to drop controversy nukes into the discussion to derail it.
            You might as well say
            >if he can’t even make me handsome, why is he worth worshiping?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Cuz he is the moral backbone of society lol
            Nope. Golden rule predates Christianity.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Agreed, but Christianity uniquely asks the supplicant to love their neighbor, turn the other cheek, etc
            Prior religious traditions probably had some version of the golden rule, but they also venerated warfare and conquest
            Barbaric

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >but they also venerated warfare and conquest
            America tbh 3

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I agree with your criticism of america, but america is not a religion

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's refutable. One has to submit that he cannot change the nature of love. And that for love to exist, man must have free will. And that free will can and does result in evil. And to him, it is a necessary evil. In the truest sense of the phrase.

    People like to say that God can do anything, but there's no biblical evidence of such a thing. God cannot make a square a triangle. He can't make paradoxes true. The Bible never even says that God is all powerful.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >And that for love to exist
      But love doesn't exist?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe not to you, but we can't help how your parents feel about you

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Kek, just saying it's a human construct we use to make sense of what happens on Earth. Try finding love in the emptiness of space, or even in the wilderness.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            That doesn't mean it doesn't exist, just that it isn't tangible

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Sure it exists in a conceptual sense, or else humans would never be able to come up with it in the first place, but there's nothing "fundamental" about it. I'll make an analogy: a corporation "exists" in the sense that it's something humans have created for utility, which in this case is selling goods and services, but it's only existed for 500 years or so. There's nothing written into the universe that says a corporation must exist.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >There's nothing written into the universe that says a corporation must exist.
            oy vey

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Humans didn't exactly invent the idea of love though, more like given words to a feeling that all (most) humans experience. There may be written into the universe that things like us experience the thing we call love

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Love does exist.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I love you.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >People like to say that God can do anything, but there's no biblical evidence of such a thing. God cannot make a square a triangle. He can't make paradoxes true
      What does this have to do with a world creating diety making things that annoy him for no discernable reason?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Well as I explained in the rest of the post, in order for love to exist, free will must exist. And with free will comes things that God doesn't like in our decision making.

        If you could push a button on the back of a woman's neck to make her want to marry you, would that really be love? Of course not. It's the same thing with God. We must have free will for love to exist.

        So that's far from no reason.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Oh God, you again. I'm not ruining night to hit bump limit with you again. I refuted your shit a while back.
          You accept my concession etc.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I accept your concession.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >No you can't just debunk my argument
            Hilarious

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You're not him so I'll humor you: God didn't need to give us love. But even if he gave us love, that doesn't entail also things that annoy him existing. God designed our mental parameters, much like you would build a pc. Before you even get to free will, he decided how powerful our church is, how hot we run, how frequently we break down, etc.

            God could have created different base set of human parameters that included taking every "bad" event in stride, and then given that free will.
            After all, our brains are set at a certain general level of mix between optimism and pessimism. Nothing says he had to create the ratio this way.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            *also entail

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >powerful our church is
            *our cpu
            Frick, I hate autocorrect.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >God could have created different base set of human parameters
            Why do you think that? Bible doesn't even say he's all powerful.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Well, where does it say that humans had to be created exactly as they are? He created every other animal too, and not all animals have the same temperament. This shows that he has a slider for these traits in his character creator.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You are completely refuted. There's nothing in the Bible that suggests God can change the nature of love. Nothing that says he can make 2 + 2 = 5. That's all inserted by you. Your entire argument is based on your own preferred ideas. You are attacking your own straw man. Not God.

            You don't want to deal with this because you have no actual response. You just repeat the same thing over and over again and say you won. Typical gaytheist.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >God cannot make a square a triangle

      yes he can

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I think the anon is saying "God cannot make a square be a triangle at the same time it is a square" not "God cannot change a square into a triangle"

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >he doesn't undertake the fundamental concept of free will given by God to man

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's refutable. One has to submit that he cannot change the nature of love. And that for love to exist, man must have free will. And that free will can and does result in evil. And to him, it is a necessary evil. In the truest sense of the phrase.

      People like to say that God can do anything, but there's no biblical evidence of such a thing. God cannot make a square a triangle. He can't make paradoxes true. The Bible never even says that God is all powerful.

      >a kid getting brain cancer is free will

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >God believes we need to be able to choose between good and bad
        What? Wasn't being able to choose between good and bad literally what expelled Adam from God?

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why must a god act sane exactly?

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. The answer:
    >I deliberately created a world full i do not like and now I am mad
    >how could this be happening to me
    it is happening because God derived entertainment from observing entities with free will. there is no other reason for the constant barrage of prophets, commandments, conflicting laws, etc.

    So god is not mad, he simply creates rules, observes the output of us interacting with them, updates the rules, and proceeds.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    God if he exists is shite

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Reality, if it exists, is shit.
      Cool outlook on life kid.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Look you fossil if some benevolent all powerful creator made this world he is shite

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          The problem with atheists, is that they think everyone has the same childish understanding of the word God as them. You suffer from the dunning Krueger effect. You don't even know what God is, and if I explained ot to you, you wouldn't even listen, because you have a preconceived notion, and you just want to be right, without actually having any wisdom. It's all so tiresome.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Try me I’m all to interested to learn about your love for sky daddy

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Not him. Kek, no you aren't

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Try me I’ve tried church it’s all smoke and bullshit
            If I started a church of spiderman youd laugh at me
            God is the same thing

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Not interested, your mind is already made up and I doubt it will be changed by some anon on a Korean fish breeding forum

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Trust me I would love to believe in god hell it would make this pointless endeavor have some sembalance of meaning but him existing would just prove he’s a shit god given the nature of life and its suffering

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >believe in god hell it would make this pointless endeavor have some sembalance of meaning
            Is this why you want to believe in God? To find meaning? Do you want a purpose?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >it would make this pointless endeavor
            Edgy nihilist fricks like you and worse than any religious person.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >If I started a church of spiderman youd laugh at me
            >God is the same thing
            It's not the same thing. Abrahamic religions have evolved over the course of thousands of years, from scribes and scholars meditating day and night about their religion. Some dude like L Ron Hubbard, is not equal to them. Also, the abrahamic religions borrow from other cultures and who knows how long the oral traditions went on for before it was written down. To ignore this evolving egregore, and pretend like you just know better, is childish Dunning Krueger thinking.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You are one dumb motherfricker
            You are aware Christianity was considered a cult in its early days you know like Scientology
            Kek should we revere Scientology because it may be around in a thousand years
            Fricking lmao

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >church of spiderman

            It has been said that rock, is a great foundation.
            But it has also been said that the things wich rock, are unstable.

            Therefore, Peter Parkour says,
            "With great power, comes great responsibility"
            And then he cast his net to the top of the tallest building, and he was lifted into the heavens, and many were saved in that city on that day. Therfore, if you are one of those, who lives in the ivory tower, now is the time to put aside childish things, and learn to walk with God.

            There was a man in the crowd who said to himself, "this message is not for me". So he turned and left the crowd. In order to leave, he had to step over three homeless children that were sleeping in the street. This man went home to worship a false idol called "Funko Pop", and he was never seen, or heard from, again.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You're just being sarcastic and abrasive.
            Why do you deserve to know? What would you do with the information, if I told you what the name of God actually means?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            How unexpected religious fanatic decides to withhold super special life information because I was rude to him gonna take your ball home too?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Why would I give wisdom to someone who is full of hate? That makes no sense? You would juat use it to make the world worse. Why should anyone help you? Including God. What's in it for any of us? Why do you feel like you deserve it? Do you think God, or any of his followers even care about you? Why would you even believe that?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Hey hey hey, dumb frick, God does care about him. Calm the frick down

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Why do you think God cares about him?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Because God cares about all his creations, especially the lost ones

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Why?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Frick if I know, I would wipe the slate clean, but I'm not God

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Why did god create a bunch of life forms with an intelligence as low to him as the intelligence of amebas is to us?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Do you think you'd understand?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I've wondered that. My conclusion was something along the lines of "what would you do if you were alone, the only real thing in existence?" Probably make some shit up and play with it

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Well he doesn't seem to know that. And he needs to come to that realization himself. I never told him God doesn't care by the way. I told him it didn't make any sense. Which is true for him. But if I say it, he will want to prove me wrong. And then I asked him, "why should God, or anyone else care". If he's really argumentative, he might try to figure it out to prove me wrong. But now he sees us talking about it.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >You don't even know what God is, and if I explained ot to you, you wouldn't even listen
            Nta, but I am an athiest and have heard lots of explanations from the other side on here, but remain unconvinced.
            It just seems like you are trying to put all athiests in a box so you don't have to engage with them or something.

            I'm not trying to get into a debate about God's existence btw. Just pointing out that your generalization is not fair.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Unconvinced of what? What are they trying to convince you of? Or what are you trying to find the answer to?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Unconvinced of what? What are they trying to convince you of?
            Existence/nature of God.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            What is your definition of God?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Why are you going down this road? I hate this style of interaction. You just ask questions instead of conversing.

            But anyway, my definition of God generally (again, I fricking hate the way you phrased that because it just turns into a technicality nitpicking shitfest) is that, according to believers, he that he is the creator of heaven and earth, author of salvation, blah blah. The generally taught stuff.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >he that he
            *that he

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not trying to nit pick. Belive me.
            My whole goal, is to take your spirit, and my spirit, and link them together, to create an action, or understanding, that helps us both.

            That is the whole point of God.

            Once you understand this, everything else is just nomenclature, and all of the arguing and hate, and nitpicking, becomes pointless.

            Most of the arguments people have are about language. Intention of outcome is actually more important than the actual discussion. That's why I asked that other hateful individual what they even want. All they want is to go into battle, so that's all they will find. What you want, seems to be something more meaningfull, and others can tell from your tone, so you receive a different response.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >My whole goal, is to take your spirit, and my spirit, and link them together, to create an action, or understanding, that helps us both.
            >That is the whole point of God.

            Ok... that may be the point of God to a believer, but how does this get a nonbeliver closer to belief?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >You don't even know what God is, and if I explained ot to you, you wouldn't even listen
            Nta, but I am an athiest and have heard lots of explanations from the other side on here, but remain unconvinced.
            It just seems like you are trying to put all athiests in a box so you don't have to engage with them or something.

            I'm not trying to get into a debate about God's existence btw. Just pointing out that your generalization is not fair.

            We can get into a debate though, if you want to. I didn't mean to imply cowardice on my part.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >I deliberately created a world of things that I do not like and now I'm mad
    Is god a racist?

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Can create an entire universe full of shit he hates then not delete it

    You have to admire his dedication.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      He fell asleep.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      AFK BRB

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Christian claims to have super secret knowledge that is essential for salvation and will change your view of God
    Isnt this just Gnosticism?

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    If Gods gave us free will and only punishes for misusing it, why does he also punish the serpent as well? It has no free will on account of being an animal that God created.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Why do you think the serpent has no free will? Where did you get this idea from?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Animals don't have free will.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Based on what? My dog clearly makes choices. He's not that smart, but he feels pain, and chooses actions based on expected outcome. Certainly monkeys have a will, and make choices.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            If animals have free will, why doesn't God judge them like humans do?

            Rev. 12:9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

            Satan is still an animal made by God.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >like he does with humans
            Meant to say that.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Rev. 12:9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Your father created you
    You have failed him
    Many such cases

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    IQfy christians really be acting like free will is a commonly held point by other christians when it literally isn't. Literally one of the first Western heresies was about humans having free will, which the church disagreed with.

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