>be me, boymoder, 20y/o, 2 months hrt
>decide to go to spring day party with a cis bi girl friend, turns out some of her friends are coming as well
>meet her friends, she presents me to them
>she uses my nickname (which is gender neutral) and no specific gendered pronouns, so my gender situation ends up left ambiguous
>her friends end up defaulting to she/her because lmao, call us both "girls", etc
>don't bother correcting them because just tired of being a guy; besides i was unlikely to meet them again anytime soon
>later that night, we end up a moment alone with my friend
>we're just chatting about stuff
>suddenly she asks "hey btw what are your pronouns?"
>ohgodthisisactuallyhappening.jpg
>ask her why she asked
>"idk i just noticed my friends were using she/her and you didn't correct them, so i suddenly realized I never actually asked you"
>end up coming out to her about everything, fortunately she's supportive if a bit awkward about it
>end up having to avoid bathrooms for the rest of the night but it was frankly worth it
I know this reads like a larp but I stg it's not lmao
Stop "boymoding" just go by she/her and girlmode. It’s what you want and what makes you feel better after all, or am I wrong?
Idk, it's complicated
My goal with hrt was more along hrt-femboy lines but I ended up feeling pretty fine about boobs and have also been thinking more about just girlmoding as well since I think I do actually want it. I do like when people seeing me as a girl, it's been that way for years (long hair + people being dumb has led to people she/her-ing me before), and it makes me happy; but for whatever reason actually taking the plunge and girlmoding feels scary. I feel awkward about it even though I kind of want it. Probably brainworms tbhon but idk, could also be something more complicated
She actually knows my full name you idiot, that's why she regarded me as a guy. She also told me when we initially met between how I looked and how I acted towards her she initially thought I was a girl so checkmate
Thanks
>grats
Thanks!
>have you voice trained at all or have a naturally andro voice?
My voice comes out kind of andro, I think through a combination of trying to get it to not sound as masculine throughout the past few years (though without doing formal voice training) and just luck. Also I think the loud music helped lmao.
>pretty obvious the friend was either from before transition or early transition
Correct!
Wow the quality of the bait has really fallen this low huh
I promise you she is just being polite. Someone initially thinking you're a girl has little meaning when they realize in 10 seconds you're male, kek
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None of these people want to hear the hard truth, which is that being perceived as a sad and pathetic male with a mental illness is not the same as being perceived as a woman.
Finaly someone that is not hugboxing people. The truth is often very hard to accept so most people just use things like this as a cope to protect themselfs.
>She also told me when we initially met between how I looked and how I acted towards her she initially thought I was a girl so checkmate
Cissies also told me this after coming out so seem supportiv or so. When I looked completely male before hrt a coworked told me I act like a woman and only by my action she sees me as a woman which is just some sort of them trying to be supportiv
You’re just internalized transphobes. People around you can literally say "I see you as a woman" and you’re still telling yourself you aren’t women
I pass 100% of the time but not to myself and I still fricking hate myself because there is not a single good reason to see me as a woman
I hate all of this so much and being trans literally the most
The biggest tell that you're not a woman is that you don't realize women say things they don't actually mean to be polite.
>if people tell you they don't see you as a woman it's the truth
>if they tell you they do it can only be then trying to be polite
>also if they just gender you female without you even asking they do that's also them being polite because reasons
Once again, you are all demonstrating you're not women. Yes, people who are trying to be cordial are going to lie to you.
The inability to understand this from failmales is as hilarious as it is pathetic.
>Yes, people who are trying to be cordial are going to lie to you.
I know that. Her friends literally just gendered me female without me even asking. How could they have been trying to be polite about something they weren't even aware of?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Having someone interrogate you on others using she/her pronouns because she even considered it possible you'd correct them is by definition realizing you're male. You are still being treated as a man, just the deluded variant where people pretend they see you otherwise.
shut the frick up, they were just curious and being nice. Sure they might not have been 100% convinced OP is cis fem, but asking for pronouns is just a normal thing nowadays. Don’t brainworm the young and hopeful people on here you bitter hon
grats on winning, you can officially girlmode now
have you voice trained at all or have a naturally andro voice?
>Having someone interrogate you on others using she/her pronouns because she even considered it possible you'd correct them is by definition realizing you're male. You are still being treated as a man, just the deluded variant where people pretend they see you otherwise.
lame bait, pretty obvious the friend was either from before transition or early transition, if the entire group defaulted to she/her its a pretty clear consensus
This Person is right tho. Sorry op and the next time you will get misgendered you will be reminded of that
You're literally living in germany and think asking pronouns is anywhere normal outside of trans groups
Get realitychecked
Yes, I live in Germany and it’s even less common here. I’m assuming OP is from the states where it’s more common.
Both of you are fricking moronic nihilistic/pessimistic fricks
You're right. I'm pessimistic as frick because im also trans and there is literally nothing good to this fricking disease
>I’m assuming OP is from the states where it’s more common.
Actually I'm from Latin America lol, it heat happens that her and her friend group are fairly progressive
>the world really changed for better, regarding trans people.
lol she just happens to be fairly progressive and nice; i also have friends who are outright transphobes
>I wish I was your age, OP. Enjoy.
Thanks :'-)
I get the feeling but this genuinely sounds like massive brainworms. People around you seem to think there's reason enough, why can't you?
Because they probably know I'm trans and are just nice to avoid a it' mam moment from a gigahon
This is all just in your imagination jfc get off the internet for a while
You wish but you're living in the same hell as me and one day you will realize this
And you think literally every single person you've met is somehow just being polite? Do you seriously think there aren't sufficiently committed transphobes out there who would misgender you anyways?
Also a mam moment would probably end up worse for you than for them (if they are even aware of that video; most people aren't terminally online) so I don't even think that rationale actually exists
>forced social feminization
lmfao
Cope Harder, babytran
I'm literally just pointing out it's incredibly statistically unlikely you somehow have consistently avoided transphobes who just don't care about politeness. Have you actually seen how unpassing trans women get treated?
I fricking know how they get treated because I was one
And you don't get treated that way anymore, which probably means you pass.
I get the scars from the time before that take long to heal but the least you could do is drop the brainworms and be kinder to yourself. If people don't misgender you then you just pass
>lol she just happens to be fairly progressive and nice; i also have friends who are outright transphobes
That's fair, and I understand there are still a bunch of transphobes out there.
But like, back in the 00s when I was in middle school, bullying or humiliating any guy who acted slightly 'homosexual' was the norm, and even stimulated by some adults. It's like everyone was either neutral or on the homophobic side.
I hope stories like yours become the norm rather than exception!
>But like, back in the 00s when I was in middle school, bullying or humiliating any guy who acted slightly 'homosexual' was the norm
lol when I went to middle school it was kind of like this either. Like, it wasn't as intense, but acting feminine as a guy would still get you mocked and stuff. It's mostly in the past very few years that things really started to turn around I think
>I hope stories like yours become the norm rather than exception!
I hope so as well :'-)
Least illiterate american
You are not even trying to be perceived as male just come out already and stop asking like a moron
> Thankfully I am not a troony of any variant, least of all a 40 year old autogynephile.
Yes, that's what the average autogynephile looks like.
>suddenly she asks "hey btw what are your pronouns?"
I almost said "do zoomers, really"
but honestly the whole thing sounds like a dream for me, and I've just a few years older than you (26). God, the world really changed for better, regarding trans people.
I wish I was your age, OP. Enjoy.
>forced social feminization by my date's friends
giwtwm
morning reminder i need to kill myself
The audacity of boymoders
They live as women, are treated like women and insist on forcing people to gender them as "male"
When will you learn? WHEN?!