is there a way i can remain a dainty twink without having to take estrogen.

is there a way i can remain a dainty twink without having to take estrogen.

its seriously over for me if i have to become a woman just so i dont have to turn into a gorilla

does starving yourself work? what about dht blockers? skincare?

please. i dont want to be a masculine man, but im not a woman.

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    No, srsly just start het while you still can

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    cut your balls off and develop a serious eating disorder

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    peter pan syndrome, see a psychologist

    you will become old

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      i dont mind being old, getting white hair and wrinkles is no problem, the issue is being bald, hairy, masculine framed.

      the solution isnt taking hrt because the idea of having a female body makes me feel ill.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Just do hrt then.
        It's not exactly the same as giving yourself a female body. You'll still have a dick and your frame / skeleton isn't going to change.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          wtf is with you pinkpillers?

          ur right it doesnt give you a female body, it gives you a cone titted fat eunuch body instead. i dont want that.

          i LIKE my body, i just want to keep it that way.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Estrogen doesnt make a male a twink it makes them dumpy and weird

            Stop lying you bitter fricks

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        you will always have a masculine frame dummy, if you don't wanna take hrt you can still look cute until you are 30 or smth, get laser, dht blockers and skincare (tret)

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >dht blockers
          you need both because suppression of DHT and not T gives you even more T and causes bones to grow

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            homie your bones are going to grow if you are 20

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            so theres no way to stop becoming a wide ogre even with blockers is what you'ee saying?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            are you 14???? your frame isn't going to change or anything

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            im not saying its gonna reverse it but just to prevent it from getting worse than it slready is. im 18 and had a late puberty, its already pretty wide but my dad is like double my width.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            your dad must have way more mass than you, just look at other people in the streets there are hundreds of ~25yo slim twinks with nrmal width.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            yeah but im short so even if im the same width as lanklets i still look more masculine

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            that's just unfortunate then, get a bf who love you for who you are and stop obsessing over this stupid stuff

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >anorexia doesn't suppress testosterone
            >Duta is dangerous and doesn't do anything but hair stuff
            >fin doesn't suppress body hair
            >No amount of skin care will make you stay boyish.

            >Castration will prevent masculinization (but some problems)
            >Bica monotherapy works (HRT lite)
            >GNHR drugs = Castration (problems..)
            >HRT (best solution jmo)
            Idk I took hrt and I look like twink with small breasts at 31. Like its the best option. I don't think any gay twink would hate it despite how some of them fear it.
            Also the dude in the picture had FFS surgery, using make up, and is using all manner of topical's. Maybe edited too.

            I was castrate for a period due to pain medication (methadone)and because of it got majorly fricked 18-25. Like way more bone changes than most. I got way wider, my face got frighteningly masc, like stunted puberty can shift the time for bone closures.
            Dont even frick around anon, being a twink with boobs feels fine. What could happen does not...

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            i need this to be true
            t. pooner

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            It is not true, your body adapts to that and in some cases the excess T transforms into estrogen

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Right. The only real outcome is potentially excess estrogen. But most likely the excess T is neutralized by an increase in SHBG.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            It's not a huge increase to begin with. Like 5%-10% tops increase of T? Kind of marginal.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah exactly, literally not worth talking about at all. Kinda funny pinkpillers run with it to stoke fear

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Agreed. Pink pillers should mention the permanent negative side effects possible with duta and fin instead. Those are way more horrific than a marginal increase in testosterone. Even when you get them and there only temporary its pretty bad too.
            Reducing your neurosteroids can really suck.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Agreed. Pink pillers should mention the permanent negative side effects possible with duta and fin instead. Those are way more horrific than a marginal increase in testosterone. Even when you get them and there only temporary its pretty bad too.
            Reducing your neurosteroids can really suck.

            Im confused as to what's being talked about. Are you guys saying DHT blockers are bad?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            That is what Im saying as sometimes they come with bad side effects, and sometimes they are permanent.

            Like increased anxiety
            Increased depression
            Lose erection ability
            Can't cum
            Lose sexual desire
            Having permanent problems is rare, but no as rare as you'd want. Sometimes they inhibit the production of 5 alpha reductase even after you quit and it's used in more than just producing dht from T.
            Fin is safer than Duta but they both have these issues. Like It frick around with E way before these drugs personally, but a lot of guys use then and are fine, but plenty have had some real problems.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            So no estrogen, no anti androgens. What exactly is your plan then?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            For hair loss? I'd test Fin out and see if any side effects presented. Personally I'd probably just use E though, because I can't afford neurological problems, Im very attached to my hair and health.

            If I were balding Id consider gnhr drugs or castration too probably. Esp if I had problems with Fin, and we're afraid to take E.
            There really are any other suitable options Im aware about though. Although Bica mono I suppose is useable. But that's just HRT lite at that point.
            I already take E if you meant literally what do I do.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            The side effects are way overblown because if you look at the side effects in the studies of these same drugs being given to older guys for BPH/prostate stuff, the sexual side effects have lower rates of incidence. You would think older guys would have higher rates of sex side effects. What happens is that the people who are anxious about hair loss are also hypochondriac about sex.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I'm definitely not, but I have a history of weird neurological problems and finasteride made me feel really strange. It inhibits a bunch of neurosteroids. Other antiandrogens were fine.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I don't know, it def happens i can't know if people are over concerned, because a lot of these neurological side effects were stuff people were unaware about.
            I still wouldnt frick around with it.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >made up pop science syndrome
      >see a psychologist
      kek

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Polyphia sucks and Tim is an AGP sissy

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    estrogen doesn't even work for this, it's unironically a meme peddled by balding hons who want to create even more miserable non-passing troons they can use to feel better about themselves

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It does tho and you can add bica or data anyway

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    If that pic is you, you'll be like top 1% of 1% for mtf or hrt femboys or whatever.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      that is not op and also photoshopped even though the actual person in the pic (tim henson) could probably pass easily

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        oops forgot pic. he's 29. after a certain part its just genetics (as well as diet and taking care of your body) and no amount of hormones is really going to change that.

        or be asian, then you look young til you're 50. either works

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Seriously thought this guy was a pooner, he sounds like one too. I've seen things about how he got some procedures done tho, which might be true after seeing some earlier pictures of him
          Good guitarist either way

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        that's not photoshopped it's just him doing makeup

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          you're right. point stands about

          oops forgot pic. he's 29. after a certain part its just genetics (as well as diet and taking care of your body) and no amount of hormones is really going to change that.

          or be asian, then you look young til you're 50. either works

          tho

          >your choice is you can be david bowie
          damn I can just choose to be david bowie?
          How come more men don't just choose to age like that?

          well, you can be bowie, first you need to move to berlin and do tons of drugs and release a rock album though

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Estrogen doesnt make a male a twink it makes them dumpy and weird

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      estrogen makes you a twink a lot more easily than it makes you a woman

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        except for the breasts

        also the whole erectile dysfunction and atrophy thing will mess you up unless you're secretly a troony, of course

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          yeah but breasts are nice
          you can be a twink with breasts
          genital atrophy is only an issue if you're a top

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            a twink with breasts is a troony

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            oh well
            you're already a troony if you're unironically considering taking estrogen
            the rest is just haggling

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    at some point you are start aging and how you respond will decide if you own it and age gracefully and still remain fem/androgynous and dainty (but not exactly a "twink" anymore or hit the wall trying to stay young forever. what im saying is your choice is you can be david bowie or boy george

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >your choice is you can be david bowie
      damn I can just choose to be david bowie?
      How come more men don't just choose to age like that?

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Skin care, eating healthy balanced meals, sunscreen, avoiding red meat, sunscreen, getting enough sleep, sunscreen

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    hahaha holy shit it's going to be so funny seeing how the guy in OP pic looks in 10 years after twink death

    wonder how the neck tattoo and eyeliner is going to look then 🙁

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      he is already 29

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        alright that's it I'm giving up

        t. always assumed Tim was a zoomer and like 23 tops

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      old guys with tattoos look fine

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >is there a way i can remain a dainty twink without having to take estrogen.
    >its seriously over for me if i have to become a woman just so i dont have to turn into a gorilla
    for what it's worth it's very likely ALL estrogen will do is turn you into a twink.

    t. permatwink

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      From aged out twink------> reborn as a twink once again.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >aged out twink------> reborn as a twink
        yeah I basically just aged down 6 years in 6 months of estrogen

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >is there a way i can remain a dainty twink without having to take estrogen.
          >its seriously over for me if i have to become a woman just so i dont have to turn into a gorilla
          for what it's worth it's very likely ALL estrogen will do is turn you into a twink.

          t. permatwink

          based twink

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          That's basically what it did for me. But now I kind just look my own age due to being more twink-hon than twink(and anorexia for awhile...)

          ironically i was never a twink before and even though people regularly think i'm much younger than i am i did not look like this at all when i was younger. still, for me, it's not enough and not the result i wanted but it's important to acknowledge that yes sometimes it's all that happens for some people. it's not uncommon and people should be less worried about having drastic life changing results.

          I agree, its an overblown worry at certain ages, and presentation accounts for a fricking lot too if you don't wanna be a "girl"
          I know for everyone of these threads the OP would be happy with it, they just are so scared for no good reason.

          Sorry you didn't get all that you had wanted though anonette. What exactly are you left desiring? Is their any hope with surgical interventions?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Boobs and face mostly. I really loath the idea of surgery at all because it's supposed to be MY body, not some doctor's. So I want them to be MY breasts. The face I have mostly settled into the idea I will have to get it fixed because surgery is the only way to fix it and getting something reduced feels less emotionally invasive than having something added. Plus I am still holding out a stupid hope that somehow I will chance upon the right combination of things that will give me breasts for once.

            Also the older you get the more strange it will be to others that you look like a teenage or early 20s twink. It goes from people thinking less that you take good care of yourself or look good for your age and more that There Is Something Wrong With You. It really sucks because when I started I thought maybe just being a permatwink would be enough because then nobody would know and I would be kept safe by that but now that it's all that happened I realized it's not enough so I feel very cursed by god for foolishly thinking I wanted it instead of committing to at least acknowledging what I really wanted. that's just life i guess.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I feel you anonette, it's kind rough being a twink rather than a woman after a certain age. Looking like a girly boy in your 30's kind pushes you into a odd place socially. It's strange to men or woman , when your register as boyish or on the cusp of female and way below your age either way.I totally get the surgery thing to, it's just kind of unattractive as an idea. FFS is kind of just a requirement though...

            If you have done a cycle with domperidone I highly suggest it, as it just plainly works.
            If you quit E while taking GNHR drugs like lupron, for 2 months or so, the get back on E that can trigger a new cycle for breast growth.
            Alternatively you can run 100pg/ml about(entire injection cycle, low doses every other day) while taking 200mg's of progesterone rectally for a couple months can trigger new breast growth. Breast growth is cyclical and not linear so you can induce a new cycle. A lot of trannies end up doing accidently even.
            >acknowledging what I really wanted
            That hurts to read, but I hope what you really want is still within reach if but maybe with some time anonette.

            It slows down everything. There is more to aging than just testosterone as well.

            But not even moderate anorexia, puts a major dent in testosterone, caloric restriction sure as frick doesnt. I agree it slows down aging, but when ppl wanna retain their twinkiness it's not entirely about aging, but avoiding masculinization.

            I just making that clear, it's a good suggestion just useless for preventing testosterone production and masculinization that it confers.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        ironically i was never a twink before and even though people regularly think i'm much younger than i am i did not look like this at all when i was younger. still, for me, it's not enough and not the result i wanted but it's important to acknowledge that yes sometimes it's all that happens for some people. it's not uncommon and people should be less worried about having drastic life changing results.

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Definitely get on DHT blockers. Dutasteride is a must for twinks and is perfectly safe for cis males. Get bloodwork done if concerned.

    For skincare, aside from always wearing sunscreen, you should also moisturize and use tretinoin or tazarotene. If you have facial hair consider laser. You can also get a tinted sunscreen / moisturizer or bb/cc cream.

    Starving yourself works. But you don’t want to be malnourished. Caloric restriction is the one thing proven over and over again to extend lifespan in all lifeforms. Don’t “starve” yourself, but just don’t overeat. The less you eat, the longer you will live. It slows down aging, it slows down everything. Consider intermittent fasting too.

    You are only 18. Don’t do anything else.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Caloric restriction doesn't stop testosterone production though. Anything else is like putting out the small fires engulfing your house while The walla are burning.T is the biggest obstacle to being boyish. Also I'd suggest minimizing iron intake to a point. No need for 15mg's a day. Animals on a restricted iron diet aged less.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It slows down everything. There is more to aging than just testosterone as well.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The whole point of being a twink is being young. Just take estrogen and boymode
    >but I don't wanna be a gross troony with cone breasts
    Either cope with them or mastectomy. It's really that simple.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >neck tattoo
    jesus christ what a waste.

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    > i don't want to link like a girl, I want to look like a twink
    >*post guy who looks like a girl with makeup on*

    I can't take you people seriously. Why not be a normal gay dude and accept you can't be a twink forever. It's either age like a man or age like a woman. Those are the only 2 choices. You can still be an attractive dude, just not a twink. Exercise, skin care, dht blockers, and a good diet will prevent you from looking like shit. Again, you'll still be masculine but you won't be ugly.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >me on the left
      it fricking hurts bros

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It is time... to grow your own little cone breasts, OP.
    EAT TITTY SKITTLES
    DON YOUR HOODIE

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