I really like the front end but once you get past the doors it becomes so chunky and ugly. The rear end especially sucks, why didn't they make the taillights closer to the sides?
No. The 4.6 forever dooms them. And it won't be worth the work swapping 5.0 over just out rightbuying a 2011-2014+ to begin with. And even then lol mt82 issues
Is it any different from the wheezy 5.0 non-HOs that made a whole 140-170hp for the first half of the Fox body's life? They didn't make any actual performance until 1985
nah, that would be the SN95/new edge. even then, the 2v and 3v were a mistake and a coyote swap is expensive while simultaneously being less valuable than a cobra
Funny, but we have na 2vs with the stock heads pushing 380 wheel nowadays. In a fox a naturally aspirated 2v with stock heads went 10.01 @ 130mph (look up mark anderson it’s a green fox)
I honestly don't believe it's stock heads on that thing. you aren't getting an extra 120-150hp without touching the top end, sounds like it's winding up to 10k, too.
NMRA factory stock rules mean you have to use the stock heads. The power was achieved by spinning to 8200 rpm, likely with cams to match and notched pistons. Cry about it and pretend it doesn’t exist, whatever you have to do to sleep at night.
stock heads ported to an inch of their life with domed pistons and 14:1 cr, maybe. even NA 2vs with trick heads don't hit 380 at the wheel. I don't believe for a second that they're sealed stock
It might have the jesel cam followers which claim to free up 50hp.
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nah I'm still calling bullshit when the stock coyote class making 460ish at the wheel can only do mid to high 9s. you're a retard if you think a stock top end 2v can get anywhere close to 400
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adding to this, the people who build legit NA 2vs that DO wind up to 9-10k aren't even hitting 400 at the wheel. and this guy with a truck 2v is somehow right there on stock heads? no way jose
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I think it is 380 crank, because in the video it just says 380 HP. I doubt it has stock valves, stock seal, stock springs, etc.
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I don't think you understand. That car won the NMRA factory stock qualifier round which had built coyotes and 4vs. 2v supremacy is real
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the coyote class was sealed stock, you could only have a cold air intake lol.
I think it is 380 crank, because in the video it just says 380 HP. I doubt it has stock valves, stock seal, stock springs, etc.
nothing about the heads was stock. again, people spent thousands on trick flow heads and cams and p&p winding it out to almost 10k only to top out at like 375 @ the crank. there is no possible way a stock f150 2v top end would get anywhere near 350hp
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Without doing absolutely any of my own googling, I'm going to assume that in this case "stock heads" just means stock castings. No fully aftermarket heads or head swaps, but port, polish, and modify to your heart's content.
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still doesn't make sense that a car down 100hp to the coyotes was running similar times. unless the car had a full fiberglass/carbon body or some shit it just doesn't make sense. go look at any videos of people with a full spec sheet in their near 400hp NA 2vs and they all have extensive head work done.
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SN95 GTs only weigh about 3200lbs wet and fully dressed Anon. You can get them sub 3k pretty easy.
I really like the front end but once you get past the doors it becomes so chunky and ugly. The rear end especially sucks, why didn't they make the taillights closer to the sides?
Bullshit, we don't have them. They can be imported with a kit for $40k+. That's not "one of them", that's "a converted one of them".
I'm not paying $40k+ for a kit car experience in a fucking mustang. I own a VE SS.
Nope, I bought the car used and they were on there. Besides, they still go round and round. Can't see what they look like when I driving. Post your car and rims.
i remember when these came out as a kid, i used it in need for speed and i cringed every time i saw one of the previous gen mustang irl because this one looked so cool
s197 fucking sucks. who the fuck would buy this car? 5-speed, live rear axle, fucking awful 4.6l v8, and it has zero interior benefits. this car is fucking awful
Yes
Yep
nuh-uh
No, it's not nearly as ugly as a fox body.
The S197 ISN'T ugly, YOU'RE ugly!
No child, the s197 is better.
No child, that is your delusions again.
>the s197 is better.
a ford is better than an aston martin?
Nobody actually noticing that's an Aston Martin
No. The 4.6 forever dooms them. And it won't be worth the work swapping 5.0 over just out rightbuying a 2011-2014+ to begin with. And even then lol mt82 issues
What work? It literally bolts up to the same mounts and the same transmissions. Even the computer isn't that much effort.
Is it any different from the wheezy 5.0 non-HOs that made a whole 140-170hp for the first half of the Fox body's life? They didn't make any actual performance until 1985
nah, that would be the SN95/new edge. even then, the 2v and 3v were a mistake and a coyote swap is expensive while simultaneously being less valuable than a cobra
i had a built 3v and i LOVE this image
sums up almost every new edge owner
Funny, but we have na 2vs with the stock heads pushing 380 wheel nowadays. In a fox a naturally aspirated 2v with stock heads went 10.01 @ 130mph (look up mark anderson it’s a green fox)
I honestly don't believe it's stock heads on that thing. you aren't getting an extra 120-150hp without touching the top end, sounds like it's winding up to 10k, too.
NMRA factory stock rules mean you have to use the stock heads. The power was achieved by spinning to 8200 rpm, likely with cams to match and notched pistons. Cry about it and pretend it doesn’t exist, whatever you have to do to sleep at night.
stock heads ported to an inch of their life with domed pistons and 14:1 cr, maybe. even NA 2vs with trick heads don't hit 380 at the wheel. I don't believe for a second that they're sealed stock
It might have the jesel cam followers which claim to free up 50hp.
nah I'm still calling bullshit when the stock coyote class making 460ish at the wheel can only do mid to high 9s. you're a retard if you think a stock top end 2v can get anywhere close to 400
adding to this, the people who build legit NA 2vs that DO wind up to 9-10k aren't even hitting 400 at the wheel. and this guy with a truck 2v is somehow right there on stock heads? no way jose
I think it is 380 crank, because in the video it just says 380 HP. I doubt it has stock valves, stock seal, stock springs, etc.
I don't think you understand. That car won the NMRA factory stock qualifier round which had built coyotes and 4vs. 2v supremacy is real
the coyote class was sealed stock, you could only have a cold air intake lol.
nothing about the heads was stock. again, people spent thousands on trick flow heads and cams and p&p winding it out to almost 10k only to top out at like 375 @ the crank. there is no possible way a stock f150 2v top end would get anywhere near 350hp
Without doing absolutely any of my own googling, I'm going to assume that in this case "stock heads" just means stock castings. No fully aftermarket heads or head swaps, but port, polish, and modify to your heart's content.
still doesn't make sense that a car down 100hp to the coyotes was running similar times. unless the car had a full fiberglass/carbon body or some shit it just doesn't make sense. go look at any videos of people with a full spec sheet in their near 400hp NA 2vs and they all have extensive head work done.
SN95 GTs only weigh about 3200lbs wet and fully dressed Anon. You can get them sub 3k pretty easy.
This generation is so god damn ugly
actually it's the best looking
That's not a fox body. Or even a Mustang II.
I really like the front end but once you get past the doors it becomes so chunky and ugly. The rear end especially sucks, why didn't they make the taillights closer to the sides?
>Is the mustang s197 the next fox body?
I think its the best looking one since the original.
Yeah it's loved by gay dudes like the fox body
If we had these in Australia I would own over 10 by now, and all would be LS swapped
We do have them, no idea if they're imported or not but I've seen a few of that gen getting around. I've only ever seen a Foxbody once though.
Bullshit, we don't have them. They can be imported with a kit for $40k+. That's not "one of them", that's "a converted one of them".
I'm not paying $40k+ for a kit car experience in a fucking mustang. I own a VE SS.
>Bullshit, we don't have them.
>6cyl
Fuck off
Didn't even have time to type "convertible" before vomiting up my disapproval of that facsimile
The other 16 available are V8s.
Goddamn you're a whiny bitch, little wonder you want a Mustang.
>posts the alleged single irrelevant example in alleged 16+
Autism, lies or retardation
you could just go on carsales or gumtree yourself, brainlet.
Why would I? Apparently you do it for me, homosexual
t.
No child, you are the brainlet.
My S197 has just shy of 500 rwhp and sounds great. She might be slower than a newer S550 with some mods but for a 2007 she was is beast.
God, you chose the most ebay ass rims, didn't you?
Nope, I bought the car used and they were on there. Besides, they still go round and round. Can't see what they look like when I driving. Post your car and rims.
he won't
Unironically the 450hp S197 I had was rocking similar wheels. My dad put them on when he bought it new.
do you guys prefer the OG or the facelift?
OG supersnake is pure sex
>watch as I turn all this black rubber into white smoke lmao
Little me wanted this thing so bad, in red of course.
This view is just sexy as hell.
i remember when these came out as a kid, i used it in need for speed and i cringed every time i saw one of the previous gen mustang irl because this one looked so cool
>s197 gt500
>200mph
>manual only (clueless yuppie filter)
>basic interior without before iPads and self driving nannies became standard on cars
No, foxbodies look good
S197 looks good to me
2013/2014 models is the next foxbody. Can't find any of them near me that isn't commanding $25k+
Fucking israeli dealers
Why not buy private party?
Can't find any around me / not going to drive around all over my state.
s197 fucking sucks. who the fuck would buy this car? 5-speed, live rear axle, fucking awful 4.6l v8, and it has zero interior benefits. this car is fucking awful
Post a better car that's RWD, manual and has at least 300hp for under $10k.
350z. it has a six speed and IRS and while it has a v6, it has a great aftermarket
the only reason the s197 is cheap is because everyone knows it's a shit platform to start with