Is the 'Harkness test' a sound philosophical position to take? Why or why not?

Is the 'Harkness test' a sound philosophical position to take? Why or why not?

  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    > want to fuck a fictional creature
    > complain about bestiality
    Choose one.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      There are creatures IRL that pass the harkness test like dolpohins and killer whales because they're able to communicate in their own languages and have an intelligence that's basically comparable to humans but its still beastility.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Are dolphins really of comparable intelligence to humans? Then why are we the ones who've built a civilization and not them? Is it just for lack of opposable thumbs on their part?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Their intelligence is comparable to some humans we consider capable of consenting, not necessarily whites.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Elephants probably greater, but I wouldn’t recommend fucking one

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Then why are we the ones who've built a civilization and not them?
          >Is it just for lack of opposable thumbs on their part?
          Obviously retard

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            "onviously" lmao this dude never seen a chimp or a racoon

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          They have a nomadic lifestyle and a culture based on song and poem and oral history.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            How sure are we that what dolphins have is actually language? And how?

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              A big problem with captive orcas is, surprisingly, Orca whales from different parts of the world have different dialects. They cannot talk to each other in the tanks, just as I'm guessing you couldn't speak coherently with a random plucked out of Korea and Swaziland. I suppose until and if we were ever able to coherently translate dolphin sounds into human meaning, that would be the barrier for language. I would guess we call it "language" because they all talk and make noises often, directly to one another or the group, and their sounds can be coherently understood by their group.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Wikipedia says that one of Swaziland's official languages is English, so if they're educated I probably could talk to them, but I get your point.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                My dumbass thought it was one of those places either deep in the jungle or on the savannah where nomadic hunters are, I'm genuinely surprised English is an official language.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Like most countries in Africa have French or English as one of their official languages, because most of Africa was colonized by France or England.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          They can't make fire underwater.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          How sure are we that what dolphins have is actually language? And how?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        in the OP, at least, this is not a test for real animals but for ideas expressed in hentai.
        notice that if the animals are drawn with human eyes he doesnt call it beastiality.
        i think the artist would eventually be compelled to admit his "furry" pornography is morally reprehensible - just not as beastiality.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          If it's not real it seems pretty morally neutral.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            obviously its not the animals that are in danger

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              What do you mean?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        What part of "fictional creature" isn't bold enough? Do we need to add it to the checklist?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is fucking an elf, avatar, or orc bestiality?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        No. Does anyone think that?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Idk, i'm on the fence.

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sounds degenerate

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Seems legit.

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    no because masturbating to anything that isn't a human but with diferent colors is a way of hiding bestiality

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    a young teen meets those conditions and yet it is illegal to fuck one
    explain.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      What are you implying?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Many states have 'Romeo and Juliet' laws where the age of consent is, say, 16 but 13 if within 3 years of age.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        14 is youngest, within 2 years. Alabama. It is from 16 up to 24 most places.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Where is it 24?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            A 16 y/o can date up to 24.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      a young teen is not "of sexual maturity for its species"

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        By definition if they can reproduce they are.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Just because you can in principle get pregnant doesn't mean you're at an age where it's safe for you to.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            How often is this relevant and why is it not applied to animals?

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              im going to respond to this post as if it were written by a sincere person who wants to be reconciled with the person he's questioning.
              its relevant when a kid or her baby would die if she were to git pregnart.
              its not applied to animals because morality is for people.
              its also not applied to animals because theyre better fit to give birth at young ages.
              pregnancy for humans is particularly threatening. walking upright has made it a problem, as have our big brains which require extensive development time, and our complex societies which take time to understand.
              we build our environments on a scale that animals cant fathom and im not just talking about cities, but completely virtual ecosystems with virtual threats and pleasures. and im not talking about the internet. im talking about the scope and relevance of ideas themselves, which to us act like biological appendages.
              if you tell me to take meds im going to assume you're just dumb.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                None of this is relevant to how sexual maturity is defined, you simply went on an autistic tangent about ethics that doesn't matter.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                its relevant to the last two posts in the chain which are all i read.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Just because you can in principle get pregnant doesn't mean you're at an age where it's safe for you to.

              it is, basically any reputable dog breeder won't breed a bitch in her first heat

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            [...]
            it is, basically any reputable dog breeder won't breed a bitch in her first heat

            Shouldn't matter for interspecies romance anyway (unless hybrids might be born) and doesn't seem to matter for boys

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              What do you mean, doesn't seem to matter for boys?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Boys don't get pregnant you troon. There's no physical problem with them fucking early.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                What about the question of, you know, mental maturity?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why would that matter?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why would mental maturity matter for who it's acceptable to have sex with and who would be traumatized? Gee, I wonder.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        If it can bleed it technically CAN breed. Not right morally, but valid biologically.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      most places outside the US the legal age is 16, and some go as young as 14

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        In Ohio it's 16 as well. Not a non-US thing exclusively. Not by a longshot.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Its technically 16 but if you're over 18 it's still statutory rape
          Not that it matters for an incel pedo like you though

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            But seriously, what's wrong with burgers?

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Most US states have close-in-age exemptions.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Virginia is for virgins.

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >another quality thread LULZ

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      better than the same bait threads again and again

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. Most of the time people say bestiality is wrong because the animal isn't intelligent enough to properly consent to sexual activity.

    For example fucking a dragon that is equally as intelligent or smarter than you and can communicate to you in your own language would be morally fine. I mean no one is getting hurt or forced in this situation.

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Give me one good reason I shouldn't stick my dick in a giant sea anemone hungry for nutrients (and no I don't care what happens to me)

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The fact that someone took the time to make this, let alone got themself into such a situation that they believed there was a need to create this, is deeply troubling.

    Love from Kazakhstan.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      my thoughts exactly

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >"greater"
    Wait a second, if a human has sex with a sexbot that had a recursive AI in it with an intellegence gap like pic related why is it okay for them to fuck? Isn't there some sort of power dynamic going on here?

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    wouldn’t this apply to a child? It seems suspect.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >of sexual maturity for its species

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sexual maturity is like puberty anon.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Those aren't necessarily exactly the same thing.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            In the context of the image sexual maturity is used in the biological sense. A sexual mature animal is not necessarily older or experienced or even fully mentally developed.

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