Is the fact that Klose is the all time WC scorer proof the World Cup is a meme and a terrible way to judge players?

Is the fact that Klose is the all time WC scorer proof the World Cup is a meme and a terrible way to judge players?

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    not really, klose is the top scorer because he plays for one of the traditionally top teams (despite being polish) and the fact he has played 24 games at the world cup, more than anyone other strikers in contention for the achievement

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He's German, just born on the wrong side of the border
      And 16 goals in 24 games in the world cup is a huge feat

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >And 16 goals in 24 games in the world cup is a huge feat
        sure. but if ronaldo had played 24 games the same as klose then ronaldo would be top scorer. same with many other players. pele gor 12 goals in 14 games

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ronaldo fucked up his career though
          And Klose was still playing and scoring in 2014, Ronaldo's last world cup was Brazil's disappointing 2006 run
          And Ronaldo is just 2 years older than Klose

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >would be
          >would have
          >if
          reminder that anybody who talks about football is a retard who should be ignored

          all that matters in football is what happened, not what could have happened. Everything else is conjecture that is, on some level, entertaining, but factually irrelevant and truly a waste of time

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Extremely German and correct post.
            Checked.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Klose has literally 0 drops of Polish blood in him.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this

      Klose is the best player in football history.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no it means klose is the legitimate GOAT striker

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fuck off Klose is based af was one of the best strikers ever seen in the second most successful footy nation in the world

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Third. Brazil is better than Germany too, assuming you rated Italy naturally higher.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        no nation has reached more WC finals than Germany. of course Italy ranks below >us even though they've always been tough opposition in competitive matches. Brazil is the only national team that one could reasonably place ahead of Germany in terms of overall footy success, but even that is somewhat debatable nowadays tbh

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Italy ranks below >us
          Delusional

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            how so?
            two of their wc wins aren't even legitimate and they never did better than >us at the Euros either. in what world and on what basis would you rank them ahead of Germany??

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >two of their wc wins aren't even legitimate
              How so homosexual? You just don't count what you don't like?
              They have more WC, more overall titles, more important clubs, more important players, muuuuch more important trainers and have developed several game plans and tactics while you usually just went for "dope and be more athletic than the opposing team" like white n-words.
              That you have the confidence to claim Italy is below Germany as a football nation is astonishing. I'd argue you're on par with Argentina tbqh.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >they have more WC
                already stopped reading there

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They beat you on the only final you played each other. They have the advantage.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's proof that Klose is incredibly underrated.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the World Cup is a meme and a terrible way to judge players
    No, but that it's retarded to judge a player based in only one competition.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think his goal-scoring record is emblematic of what the World Cup has become in the modern age. It used to be the pinnacle of football. Over the last 25 years the Champions League has usurped it and become the gold standard competition from which to judge players.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      small football nation cope

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      World Cup will always be the most prestigious trophy because of national pride but quality wise the Cl and club football overall is better.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Whatever helps you cope

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          he's right, international football is europa league standard. only casuals can't see the difference

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >international football is europa league standard.
            You went full retard. Quality is little lower that the top tier ucl teams, but it's a lot more equal. Any team can beat you in the WC.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Quality is little lower that the top tier ucl teams
              It’s a LOT lower. The pace of international games is noticeably slower. There’s far less synergy between the players.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nope, the UCL has become "being a superclub and having the right system in which players are told what to do to the smallest details" type of competition, as a superclub you always have at least a 2nd chance, you've lost 4-2 against a lower ranked club, no reason to fear there's a 2nd chance to turn the score and qualify forward, at a WC you have to be at your best in every game !
      WC can still be a one man tournament, you don't get to choose the players you play with like Mbappe can at PSG now, you have the space to prove your quality by being the decisive man & leader in every match
      In UCL you can't do that anymore, teams are too stacked but if you have the right group of players and accomodation and flow inside the dressing room you can win it...but you have to be part of the big club...you'll never win it with a FC Porto or Ajax or Lyon or Celtic or Villarreal anymore.
      At the World Cup there are still the big nations but there's still room for small nations to achieve great things, Uruguay, Croatia, England :)), can still achieve the latter stages and have a real chance to win it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I would say the WC is the better way to judge individuals. The CL now is all about monopoly teams, so if one player has a bad game there's 10 other world class players to pick up the slack. In the WC if you're a top player you have to step up when your team needs you, otherwise you're country is going home.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Someone like James Rodriguez was a fluke and shows that judging a player off of 5-7 games is silly.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >2 WC finals played
    >invisible in both

    He's like the reverse Cristiano Ronaldo. Dogshit at club level but a stat padding tap-in master at the World Cup.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    itt blacked flags seethe at Klose

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    *statpads headers against saudi arabia and micronations*

    but more seriously he's germany's top goalscorer, maybe he simply didn't have the club career he deserved? sometimes wrong career choices are enough to turn you into a forgettable or memorable player

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >63 goals for based Lazio
      zoomers just can't appreciate soul

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      he's very memorable in Germany. did great at Kaiserslautern and Werder. never really had a proper place in the Bayern team but still a decent club career as well especially when you consider his later success at Lazio

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      *statpads headers against saudi arabia and micronations*

      Let‘s compare his World Cup goals to the best striker of all time from the best football country of all time:

      Klose:
      Against top teams 5:
      Argentina 3
      England 1
      Brazil 1

      Against mid teams 6:
      Ghana 1
      Cameroon 1
      Ireland 1 (at least in that World Cup)
      Ecuador 2

      Against shitters 5:
      Saudi-Arabia 3
      Costa Rica 2

      Knockout stage 5
      Group Stage 11

      Ronaldo
      Against top teams 3:
      Netherlands 1
      Germany 2

      Against mid teams 6 (5 non pens):
      Chile 2 (1 pen)
      Turkey 2
      Belgium 1
      Ghana 1

      Against shitters 6:
      Morocco 1
      China 1
      Costa Rica 2
      Japan 2

      Knockout stage 8 (7 non pen)
      Group stage 7

      Looks pretty similar. Ronaldo hast the advantage in knockout matches, but Klose scored more goals against real top teams. Basically same amount of statpadding against micro nations.

      Take the L on your way out.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the frog is just seething because there are 0 French players on his team

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        gigabased

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Against top teams 5:
        >Argentina 3

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >breaks Fatnaldo's record
    >while beating Brazil 7-1
    >in Brazil
    >while Fatnaldo is watching

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Klose was good. But he was always better in the NT than in his clubs.

    He was ace in Werder Bremen and Lazio though.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >top 3 WC scorers
    Klose
    Ronaldo
    G.Muller
    >top 3 CL scorers
    C.Ronaldo
    Messi
    Benzema

    It's about equal in quality tbh

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Klose went from playing semi pro to wc golden boot in 2 years. Pretty decent story.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >le invisible tap in merchant
    Tearing apart Saudi Arabia’s net doesn’t make you GOAT striker

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      tearing apart your mums anus also doesn't make me a sex god but you take what you can get.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If scoring goals is not hte metric to rate strikers then what is? Insta followers?

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