Is the fact that Klose is the all time WC scorer proof the World Cup is a meme and a terrible way to judge players?
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Is the fact that Klose is the all time WC scorer proof the World Cup is a meme and a terrible way to judge players?
not really, klose is the top scorer because he plays for one of the traditionally top teams (despite being polish) and the fact he has played 24 games at the world cup, more than anyone other strikers in contention for the achievement
He's German, just born on the wrong side of the border
And 16 goals in 24 games in the world cup is a huge feat
>And 16 goals in 24 games in the world cup is a huge feat
sure. but if ronaldo had played 24 games the same as klose then ronaldo would be top scorer. same with many other players. pele gor 12 goals in 14 games
Ronaldo fucked up his career though
And Klose was still playing and scoring in 2014, Ronaldo's last world cup was Brazil's disappointing 2006 run
And Ronaldo is just 2 years older than Klose
>would be
>would have
>if
reminder that anybody who talks about football is a retard who should be ignored
all that matters in football is what happened, not what could have happened. Everything else is conjecture that is, on some level, entertaining, but factually irrelevant and truly a waste of time
Extremely German and correct post.
Checked.
Klose has literally 0 drops of Polish blood in him.
this
Klose is the best player in football history.
no it means klose is the legitimate GOAT striker
fuck off Klose is based af was one of the best strikers ever seen in the second most successful footy nation in the world
Third. Brazil is better than Germany too, assuming you rated Italy naturally higher.
no nation has reached more WC finals than Germany. of course Italy ranks below >us even though they've always been tough opposition in competitive matches. Brazil is the only national team that one could reasonably place ahead of Germany in terms of overall footy success, but even that is somewhat debatable nowadays tbh
>Italy ranks below >us
Delusional
how so?
two of their wc wins aren't even legitimate and they never did better than >us at the Euros either. in what world and on what basis would you rank them ahead of Germany??
>two of their wc wins aren't even legitimate
How so homosexual? You just don't count what you don't like?
They have more WC, more overall titles, more important clubs, more important players, muuuuch more important trainers and have developed several game plans and tactics while you usually just went for "dope and be more athletic than the opposing team" like white n-words.
That you have the confidence to claim Italy is below Germany as a football nation is astonishing. I'd argue you're on par with Argentina tbqh.
>they have more WC
already stopped reading there
They beat you on the only final you played each other. They have the advantage.
It's proof that Klose is incredibly underrated.
>the World Cup is a meme and a terrible way to judge players
No, but that it's retarded to judge a player based in only one competition.
I think his goal-scoring record is emblematic of what the World Cup has become in the modern age. It used to be the pinnacle of football. Over the last 25 years the Champions League has usurped it and become the gold standard competition from which to judge players.
small football nation cope
World Cup will always be the most prestigious trophy because of national pride but quality wise the Cl and club football overall is better.
Whatever helps you cope
he's right, international football is europa league standard. only casuals can't see the difference
>international football is europa league standard.
You went full retard. Quality is little lower that the top tier ucl teams, but it's a lot more equal. Any team can beat you in the WC.
>Quality is little lower that the top tier ucl teams
It’s a LOT lower. The pace of international games is noticeably slower. There’s far less synergy between the players.
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nope, the UCL has become "being a superclub and having the right system in which players are told what to do to the smallest details" type of competition, as a superclub you always have at least a 2nd chance, you've lost 4-2 against a lower ranked club, no reason to fear there's a 2nd chance to turn the score and qualify forward, at a WC you have to be at your best in every game !
WC can still be a one man tournament, you don't get to choose the players you play with like Mbappe can at PSG now, you have the space to prove your quality by being the decisive man & leader in every match
In UCL you can't do that anymore, teams are too stacked but if you have the right group of players and accomodation and flow inside the dressing room you can win it...but you have to be part of the big club...you'll never win it with a FC Porto or Ajax or Lyon or Celtic or Villarreal anymore.
At the World Cup there are still the big nations but there's still room for small nations to achieve great things, Uruguay, Croatia, England :)), can still achieve the latter stages and have a real chance to win it
I would say the WC is the better way to judge individuals. The CL now is all about monopoly teams, so if one player has a bad game there's 10 other world class players to pick up the slack. In the WC if you're a top player you have to step up when your team needs you, otherwise you're country is going home.
Someone like James Rodriguez was a fluke and shows that judging a player off of 5-7 games is silly.
>2 WC finals played
>invisible in both
He's like the reverse Cristiano Ronaldo. Dogshit at club level but a stat padding tap-in master at the World Cup.
itt blacked flags seethe at Klose
*statpads headers against saudi arabia and micronations*
but more seriously he's germany's top goalscorer, maybe he simply didn't have the club career he deserved? sometimes wrong career choices are enough to turn you into a forgettable or memorable player
>63 goals for based Lazio
zoomers just can't appreciate soul
he's very memorable in Germany. did great at Kaiserslautern and Werder. never really had a proper place in the Bayern team but still a decent club career as well especially when you consider his later success at Lazio
*statpads headers against saudi arabia and micronations*
Let‘s compare his World Cup goals to the best striker of all time from the best football country of all time:
Klose:
Against top teams 5:
Argentina 3
England 1
Brazil 1
Against mid teams 6:
Ghana 1
Cameroon 1
Ireland 1 (at least in that World Cup)
Ecuador 2
Against shitters 5:
Saudi-Arabia 3
Costa Rica 2
Knockout stage 5
Group Stage 11
Ronaldo
Against top teams 3:
Netherlands 1
Germany 2
Against mid teams 6 (5 non pens):
Chile 2 (1 pen)
Turkey 2
Belgium 1
Ghana 1
Against shitters 6:
Morocco 1
China 1
Costa Rica 2
Japan 2
Knockout stage 8 (7 non pen)
Group stage 7
Looks pretty similar. Ronaldo hast the advantage in knockout matches, but Klose scored more goals against real top teams. Basically same amount of statpadding against micro nations.
Take the L on your way out.
the frog is just seething because there are 0 French players on his team
gigabased
>Against top teams 5:
>Argentina 3
>breaks Fatnaldo's record
>while beating Brazil 7-1
>in Brazil
>while Fatnaldo is watching
Klose was good. But he was always better in the NT than in his clubs.
He was ace in Werder Bremen and Lazio though.
>top 3 WC scorers
Klose
Ronaldo
G.Muller
>top 3 CL scorers
C.Ronaldo
Messi
Benzema
It's about equal in quality tbh
Klose went from playing semi pro to wc golden boot in 2 years. Pretty decent story.
>le invisible tap in merchant
Tearing apart Saudi Arabia’s net doesn’t make you GOAT striker
tearing apart your mums anus also doesn't make me a sex god but you take what you can get.
If scoring goals is not hte metric to rate strikers then what is? Insta followers?