Is Russia mobilizing really a sign of their desperation or is clown world propaganda too strong?

Is Russia mobilizing really a sign of their desperation or is clown world propaganda too strong?
Like isnt Russia getting 300,000 troops bad for Ukraine's counter offensive

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The whole plan is the idea that if Russia is forced to mobilize a sufficient portion of their population it'll tank Putin's popularity and he'll get overthrown and they'll auto-color revolution

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What “plan”? Is Putin following that plan?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Remember when Russia was suppose to lose in March?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, I don’t. Why didn’t you answer the question frogposter?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The question wasn't directed at me

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              And your question was? Why did you ask me something weird like that. Who said Russia would lose in March? Wtf are you talking about?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It was a rhetorical quedtion about how the media was acting like Russia was getting destroyed earlier this year and then they end up occupying eastern Ukraine. Sinilar to them acting like the Ukraine counter offensive is a massive success that has Russia running

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They did get destroyed at Kiev. It was such a complete clusterfuck they pretended like it ‘‘twas merely an act, and donated more to Ukraine’s military then anyone. But no one said the war was over then and it wasn’t until April that they cucked back to Belarus.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah sitting outside the capital without firing a shot and then leaving really fucked them up

                SLAVA UJANE

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You cared enough about it to chime in anyway
              might as well actually contribute

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i remember when russia was supposed to be a super power and take kiev in 3 days back in feburary

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I remember Putin sayin gthis would be over in march. Now, he just told the soldiers there they can't go home - not even to rotate troops. That will be a blow in the morale.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it's ze great reset
        https://corbettreport.com/putin

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They underestimate the stupidity of orks

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        a choppa innit

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      FSB has a tight control over everything.
      Any time you see protestors against Putin it's somehow orchestrated by the FSB so it looks like there are people against Putin.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What? What makes you think the protests are orchestrated by FSB? What's their profit?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Same reason Trump didn't actually do anything.
          It's a pressure relieve valve to prevent people from actually doing something.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          should've gotten the memo back when navalny cucked out of pressuring for mayor despite his clear win and tons of documented cases of fake votes. all "opposition" is theatrics, it's only function is to release the pressure and deal with those who can pose any real problem in the future. it's true for almost any country.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine America starting a draft because, after fighting Canada for 7 months, you are losing. Badly.

      We aren't talking about Iran and Saudi Arabia here. We are talking about the supposed second World Power having to get drastic measures to fight a bunch of Don Cossacks on a swamp.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Imagine America starting a draft because, after fighting Canada for 7 months, you are losing. Badly.
        America was drafting mother fuckers to go fight in some rice-eyes civil war on the far side of the world in some country no one could point to on a map, and the best protest anyone could muster was doing acid and listening to Bob Dylan

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah but not in s country with a land border literally in their backyard and next to it's military bases.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, it was an even more irrelevant country.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You mean after invading Canada with the Rhode Island national guard then Canada getting half a trillion dollars in support? With foreign mercenaries spearheading assaults? And with half of Canada's population being meth addicts death cultists?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He will just throw protestors in jail it's not America where things destabilize over some cop kneeing a black man. This is stupid western cope

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's eh.
    >No escalation to the anti-terrorist operation
    >A hard cap on 300,000 mobilized
    >Prioritize people that served recently or have combat experience
    Hohols simply have too many troops to compete with them with current active regiments. They outnumber by 2 to 3 times the amount of soldiers, hence the increase. As recently demonstrated, Russia can't efficiently hold the entire line of defense with current manpower.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ah so he's calling troops to make 2nd line units and defensive units basically. I mean tbh the counter offensive is a flop to begin with.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >is clown world propaganda too strong?
    This isn't even strong propaganda...
    How retarded are you that you think mobilization is a losing move?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OP says:
      >isnt Russia getting 300,000 troops bad for Ukraine's counter offensive
      to which you replied:
      >How retarded are you that you think mobilization is a losing move?
      sounds like you're the retard

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Your mistake is expecting logic in this clown world. Think of a big orgy of schizophrenic trannies with diarrhea and tourette's, that's the current situation, both of those in command and of their minions

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The idea of this mobilization is to build forces for next year. It will take a lot of time to retrain and equip 300,000 reservist.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There was statement they only will hold 2 week basic for these people. Yeah, its a joke.

      They also stated that this is 'gradual' mobilization, so it wont make much difference. They are only "restocking" battlegroups over time, they're not gaining more fighting power per se.
      I think its clear they just dont have equipment to even arm 300k extra soldiers or munition them.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They need protection for the referendums. If west interferes with democracy, it's scorched earth WW3.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Good point. It wouldn't surprise anyone if democrats sent 2000 ballot mules over there to cheat the referendums.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm sure mass conscription was all part of the plan kek

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not complicated. Russia took 20% of ukraine with a force of ~100K, mostly donetsk/luhansk volunteers, many chechnyans and wagner mercs. The Russian army is 900K troops, 2 million reserves, a navy and an air force, none of which was used so far. Putin tried to win a war without really using his military, it would have worked had we not showered ukraine in weapons and cash. But we did shower ukraine in weapons and cash, so now Russia will use their actual military. Only CNN viewers believed that what you saw over the last 6 months was the entire russian military in action.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lmao two more weeks right?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You need context, ukraine is larger than iraq, the iraq war took 8 years and 580.000 troops

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How many troops did sadaam have at the start of the coalition operations?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            About 375.000

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's not the most important differences with Iraq. Iraq had no foreign support and they had shitty obsolete air defense systems compared to Ukraine.

          How many satellites did Saddam have?

          ?t=288

          How many fuel depots just across the border immune from bombing did Saddam have?
          https://www.nytimes.com/1991/02/06/nyregion/war-gulf-war-shortages-iraq-suspending-fuel-sales-raids-widen-shortages.html

          How many fire-and-forget top-attack missiles did Saddam have? How many drones and thermal sights to spot for artillery did Saddam have? Did Saddam have an infinite number of GPS-guided ballistic missiles with satellites to provide targeting data?

          Etcetera. There are innumerable other difference that one can point to

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I did not want to go into too much detail, I just wanted to provide context for the retards who keep deepthroating western propaganda
            Iraq war : 8 years 580K troops
            Ukraine war : 6 months 100K troops

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >8 years
              Most of Iraq's regular army was defeated on the battlefield a matter of weeks in both 1991 and 2003 though, that is not a good timeline comparison

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Fuck off retard, the whole country was taken in a month and your other points about „Russia is merely pretending to be weak“ are also incredibly dumb

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        January 2023 for eastern Ukraine, June 2023 for Western Ukraine. Screencap this.

        By the first point, Western Europe is in a massive recession, by the second, there's running battles in the streets in European capitals, global famine and 100+ million migrants flooding Europe. This is assuming Europe/Germany doesn't form their own government policy rather than following US orders.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Even if that is the case, it shows serious problems with whoever decides the Russkie strategy. Fighting 101 at any level, including street fights, is that you hit the enemy with as much force as possible, and as much surprise as possible. They should have had massive force as plan B when the advance started to get bogged in March. Giving the enemy seven months to get good at fighting is retarded. It's like attacking someone, then starting to nibble at his leg instead of knocking him out.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Russia is constrained by being poor. And to be fair it was entirely reasonable to expect ukies to fold instead of unironically dying for a twerking israelite

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The small force they sent was enough had we not intervened, but we did so they're adapting. Not anticipating the west dumping mad stacks of cash in Ukraine was a tactical mistake, but lets stop kidding ourselves that what was sent to Ukraine was anywhere near the full Russian army, it was clearly not.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They are adapting slow as fuck. If they did this in March, This shitshow would be over before summer. Now it looks like it will take another year.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I agree but that wasn't the question, question was what does 300K extra troops mean and corporate shill media in the west has been saying for 6 months now that the entire russian army is in ukraine, which is laughable.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              So why do they need to mobilize men (I.e pull men from their regular jobs and put in army) if the entire regular army wasn’t in Ukraine already? Your making no sense

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The real world isn't an RTS game. Russia has 20.000 miles of border with 15 countries. An army of 900K does not mean 900K guys waiting around until you invade someone lmao

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And how much of that 900k is navy, airforce, strategic forces, support personell? They don’t have 900k frontline soldiers dumbass. The 150k was 70-80% of their regular (land) army excluding conscripts

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Russia has as many troops in Kaliningrad as Ukraine. Easier to pull more grunts to main the Frontline than leave a gap in defense so no cunt gets sneak with it.

                300k is just about enough to prevent more breakthroughs. The 100k already there can the focus on offense. It's really late coming though, I wonder why it took so long. I personally would have sent double that day one as I would've assumed the West would make a big deal about it

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            First Europoors learn what Victoria's Nuland "Fuck EU" means and drop chains of globohomo.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >force of ~100K

      It was at least 200k, not including lpr or dpr

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There is a difference between saying that you'll have 300 thousand troops and actually having 300 thousand troops.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are reservist mostly patriots?
      Here most of them just do it for the gibs

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Russia doesn't have patriots

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Russia doesn't have patriots

          switch Russia with the west and youll be right

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            why? Russia doesn't have patriots, otherwise there would be no need to draft troops. Everyone would volunteer to fight themselves

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            why? Russia doesn't have patriots, otherwise there would be no need to draft troops. Everyone would volunteer to fight themselves

            how do i filter memeflags?
            i'm on kuroba ex beta btw

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

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  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you english people tough too much that Putin and Russia are joking, if Ukraine and Kiev will not be russian, be ready to get nuked because you seem to not be ready and take it like your past conflict in 3th world

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Spot the vatnik with the VPN level: child's play. Learn to spell ape.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        French people just talk like that

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's like he's trying to communicate with us.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All the bullshit we had to put up with from you shills about 'Russia Stronk'

    It's really the most comically embarrassing turn of events imaginable.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think Putin wanted to mobilize, even partially; he does it because the army really needs more manpower, since the current amount of troops is insufficient to man a 1,000km frontline

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    be sure if russia fail like you english say, it will end with UK nuked because its 1st target like they say in national russia tv, dont tough you are about iran china or afghan

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Putin is the Wealdstone Raider of world leaders

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it will end with UK nuked because its 1st target

      Ideal scenario would be London gets nuked so we smash Russia's arsehole in with retaliatory strikes. Absolute win win scenario

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    even english agree that russia has one nuclear rocket that can end the hole UK

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Manlets should be banned from holding office.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Like isnt Russia getting 300,000 troops bad for Ukraine's counter offensive

    They could have 3 million extra troops but it means absolutely fuck all if you can't feed and supply them.

    Russia have already proven that their logistics are absolutely dogshit. They're going to get liquidated.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Russia have already proven that their logistics are absolutely dogshit.

      >Source: the daily mail, state department and shills

      75k shells a day, 65k after HIMARS went online. 100-1000 Ukranian casualties a day. These are Ukranian government figures too. THAT'S bad logistics? Compared to what, US? They don't have the funds for a month long air and missile bombing campaign and probably wouldn't do it to a brother country anyways, whereas we didn't give a fuck about Iraqi civilians.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The US mobilized 700k for Iraq. 300k is pretty mild in comparison. Shill are just scrambling now that their one copium about lack of Russian manpower in Ukraine is no more.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    300k warm bodies aren't shit if you don't have materiel to equip them properly with, and Russia is having to drag out T-62s from storage and museums now

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >point out that monky man doesn't have the equipment necessary to actually utilize the THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND RUSIA STRONK troops
        >"H-HE'S A MINORITY!!"

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Muh logistics
      >Russia is having to drag out T-62s museums
      You've been deepthroating way too much western news. Russia tried to win this with a small fraction of their military, when they send a larger force they will obviously also send more logistical support. It is possible that this won't be sufficient either, but you don't know that yet, neither do I or anyone else.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >russia tried to win with a small fraction of their military
        yeah, the parts with the latest in 1970s equipment and also all their experienced troops who are now gone. cope, seethe dialate, etc...

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        anon I don't mean to burst your bubble but supplying a smaller force is supposed to be a lot easier than supplying a larger one

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe the logistics for the small force was insufficient, maybe the scaled up logistics for the larger force will also be insufficient, that's not what i'm arguing about. I'm saying if they send a larger force, logistics will be scaled up.

          A quick google search shows they have 13.000 tanks and 1.500 attack helicopters, did you see 13.000 tanks and 1.500 attack helicopters in the news? Did the ghost of Kiev shoot them all down? No? Clearly Russia can send way more shit to Ukraine, I don't know if they will be succesful nor do I care, but clearly they have lots more shit to send there.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The fact that they have 13k tanks and 1.5k helicopters lying around (If they actually do and corrupt officials haven't sold half of them off for scrap) that doesn't mean they have that same number in actual working order.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >"BRO THEY WEREN'T REALLY TRYING I SWEAR!"

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's not what he said, NATOfag

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why do you assume that they would use the most modern weapons first and then work their way backwards?

      T-62s are perfectly able as assault guns, and they die to top attack missiles just like a T-90M would.

      If they've maintained T-62s in working order, then they likely maintained their thousands of reserve T-72s and T-80s in working order too.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Why do you assume that they would use the most modern weapons first and then work their way backwards?
        lmao this is some serious coping

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Why do you assume that they would use the most modern weapons first and then work their way backwards?
        Because that's how you do war, you go in hard and try to attain your goals and end the conflict as quickly as is feasible, you don't deliberately send in bad troops with bad equipment and allow your opponent time to get settled into the conflict and to receive aid from their allies.
        Even I don't give the Russians so little credit that I genuinely think they would have put their bad foot forward deliberately.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, in attrition warfare you try to optimize the use of your inventory, and thus you never send anything that is more expensive than is necessary for its mission. A T-62M is perfectly capable as an assault gun

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            except that Russia kicked the Very Speshul Military Operation by trying and failing to do maneuver warfare. They thought it'd be over within a matter of days.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They didn't use T-62M in the opening stages. They brought those out when it was clear that maneuver had failed and that was going to be attrition warfare.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Why do you assume that they would use the most modern weapons first and then work their way backwards?
        uhm common sense? This was never supposed to be a war of attrition. But here we are, with artillery and trenches, and occational blitzkrieg.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >This was never supposed to be a war of attrition
          Every war Russia has fought in my lifetime (since Chechnya) has been a war of attrition. I dunno if they know how to fight any other kind, but I have yet to see it happen.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If usa leaves Ukraine today the war finishes tomorrow

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Russia can't feed and equip just the people they currently have deployed, their logistics are a joke.
    You can't put 300k beardless boys on the battlefield in their t-shirts and track pants and expect them to do something.
    And this is assuming that they can pull off even this small scale mobilization at all.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Russia getting 300,000 troops bad for Ukraine
    Troops need food, transport, drugs, clothing, armor, weapons, ammunition, etc. Russia has people fighting in flip flops and wearing WW2 gear right now, 300k more people will only stretch their logistics to clown levels

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You answered your own question. Of course it's bad for Ukraine. The issue could be if anyone else is dumb enough to get drawn into the fighting.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Like isnt Russia getting 300,000 troops bad for Ukraine's counter offensive
    If it was 300,000 real troops armed with modern weaponry, yeah. 300,000 conscripts with 2 weeks of training and zero morale armed with poorly maintained WW2 era weapons is just going to be a massive burden on Russian supply lines, which are already doing pretty bad.
    This is just a desperation move which won't work. Mobilization should have been done right at the start and then Russia could have won this. Now it's way too late.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's like when the united states kept expanding the mission in Vietnam year after year

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Is Russia mobilizing really a sign of their desperation or is clown world propaganda too strong?
    they wanted full mobilisation bu they lock putin in plane who fly yesterday 4-5hours and when rage goes off from his head he just call for semi-mobilisation

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The orc counteroffensive success was in the region with no Russian military and they still sustained huge loses
    Unless nato trucks in a bunch of suckers to fight it’s over

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don't forget that Chinese forces are also moving in to Ukraine to aid Russia.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, and the 3 billion elite Syrian stormtroopers that Assad are surely just about to arrive as well lmao.
      Any second now

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No they aren't, that was mislabeled footage from the 2022 Vostok exercises

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Desperation, and they most likely will end up using tactical nuclear weapons along sooner than later because of it, America and Europa forgot Sun Tzu lesson that you always fabricate an opening for the enemy so that he doesn't feel cornered, because when they do, they fight to the last man and your losses might go beyond you can imagine.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Russia isn't cornered in any sense you retard, they can literally fuck off any time they want.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Can the current political establishment in Russia really "back off" anytime they want?
        Is that even in the interests of all of them for this to happen in any possibility?
        I don't really think so, and you always have to add the Ukrainian view of the conflict on this, part of the Ukrainian establishment is alienated to the point that they think that without taking back all the territory including Crimea, they shouldn't stop the war.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I don't really think so
          Seconding this poster, a) because they cannot afford to lose Crimea, it's incredibly significant to Russia's geopolitical position but it's also the one big thing Ukraine are desperate not to give them, and b) they can't bring people home without having some sort of 'win' to claim, because otherwise the obvious question is 'so why the fuck did my husband/brother/uncle/colleague just go and fucking die for?' and that's a terrible question for the long-term security of the powers that be
          It's surprising that the only major head of state who's said this so far has been Macron, but Russia needs some sort of 'off ramp' that will let them pull out while still being able to convince ordinary Russians that they achieved something and that Russia's still a big global player

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >geopolitical position
            No, not because of this. It's because of how primitive small social group works.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              How so?

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > a sign of their desperation
    It's a sign they massively underestimated how difficult it'd be
    >Like isnt Russia getting 300,000 troops bad for Ukraine's counter offensive
    Yeah, obviously Russia doubling its available personnel is bad for Ukraine, the reason people are calling it desperation is that Russia went into this war thinking it could win by barely committing 200,000 troops. They're now accepting that they'll need a significantly larger force, and will have to pay a significantly larger toll, to achieve their goals (whatever the fuck those are right now)

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It means they will start to be more agressive with israeliterain civilians. Why the fuck do they still receive gas ? Why the fuck do they still have railroads, electricity, roads, normal day life. If regular russian have to suffer, ukrianian will suffer way more.

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you dont mobilize 300K soldiers to hold defensive lines. either he wants to cut off Ukraine's border with Poland to stop weapons shipments or he decided to make a Novorossiya

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >you dont mobilize 300K soldiers to hold defensive lines

      You do, if you think the enemy is going to conscript millions of soldiers to throw against your lines

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i dont know.. he did mentioned Novorossiya in his speech. i think he might go for it. 300K is a major offensive force

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What offense? Your 'Heavenly Khazaria' project is dead. You can forget about it. Your golem is out of date.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            offensive ... offensive... what he took so far is done. Kherson Zapo, the Donbass - its Russia. now he's planning to move further. in fact 300K is only the number Shoigu gave. if you look at the decree article 6 is censored so there is no official cap on how much man he can call upon. its open ended.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >what he took so far is done.
              Many here do not understand that propaganda is a part of war and our side is doing it too. Russia's supposedly pathetic force currently occupies 116.000km2 of Ukraine, Ukraine recently took back 6.000km2, that must mean Ukraine is about to defeat Russia. It's all so tiresome.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Certainly not, but in war you always have to put in consideration financial losses and think somewhat long term, this is in all terms and purposes a Russian x NATO proxy war, Ukraine wouldn't have last a month without the financial aid and one of the largest military and intelligence aid in human history.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Russia's supposedly pathetic force currently occupies 116.000km2 of Ukraine
                This is not impressive.
                I'd like to remind you that when this war started absolutely everyone, including most western military analysts, expected that Russia would be able to attain their goals and end this conflict within the month.
                "Kiev will be taken within a week" wasn't a pathetic cope back then, it was literally the mainstream opinion on both sides.
                Only being able to hold to (some of) the territory they took in the initial push IS pathetic when we're talking about a country who was supposed to be the 'second army of the world'

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it was literally the mainstream opinion on both sides
                It was a dumb mistake. So shit just got real.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You chiggers keep bringing this up but that doesn't mean Russia is going to win. Just look at military history, a lot of militaries that occupied enemy land but ended up losing it ie. Germany.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Zelenksy is not conscripting 6% of the entire population of Ukraine

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Depends on what those reservists are, if they are former profesional soldiers then Ukraine is fucked, if those reservists are just former conscripts then its a nothing burguer as they will be spread along the front-line to hold the line.
    There is also word that russians are building an special formation of profesional troops that will be deployed on the Ukranian front.
    So most likely reservervist will hold the ground while profesional troops are freed to push on the offensive, its a smart move considering that winter is coming and its unkown if the remains of the Ukranian Army will be able to stand a chance against a re-organized and better equiped army, even more considering that NATO countries only shipped wunderwaffes and not equipment for frontline soldiers.

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    These reservist need to be trained up (may not have been in army for many years) need to be house equiped moved fed. This won't happen quickly as Russia got rid of the infrastructure for mobilization after the fall of the Soviet Union. So the 300k wont come all at once and the first units will probably be a few months away.

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Idk man, you guys sent national guard to iraq, and activated reserve elements during the invasion, what did that mean. Russia was being foolish in thinking they could conduct such a large war with only battalion tactical groups, which have low infantry with heavy support elements. Effect combat units yes, but for holding the amount of ground they tried, no. They leaned heavily on DPR/LPR militia to fill the gap. They just finally realized it wasn't going to work.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They probably weren't expecting Ukraine to get an injection of international mercenaries and volunteers equaling almost half their total force.

      It's a lot of extra bodies for the grinder.

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wasn't Russia using less than 10% of their active military in this special operation with 900000 professional soldiers available at any point of time should Putin see the need for it. Which he didn't obviously as the special operation is going so well.
    Also Shoigu said today that Russia has lost less than 6000 men, that's like 0.6% of their forces and he also said that half the army of Ukraine has already been destroyed.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >half the army of Ukraine has already been destroyed.
      That doesn't include "volunteers" right? Wouldn't be surprised if in the next week you have an escalation of "Ukrainian" soldiers who are actually members of NATO.

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It certainly isn't great no. The copefest is massive.

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    300K personnel is about 1% of their total capacity.

    globohomo propagada is skewing your perception.

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    can someone tell me how this still isnt a war in the kreml's perspective?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because they haven't declared it yet 😉

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they don't declare war anymore, there's no reason to due to geopolitics

        so its just semantics and international lawyery?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes
          It serves both as internal propaganda and as a tool in the childish game of modern geopolitical patty-cake

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            pretty much. for example, brits didn't declare war with argies in Falklands war, because it would have pissed off other states in south america and strained diplomatic ties. so they didn't bother with it and simply pressed forward

            >

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          pretty much. for example, brits didn't declare war with argies in Falklands war, because it would have pissed off other states in south america and strained diplomatic ties. so they didn't bother with it and simply pressed forward

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they don't declare war anymore, there's no reason to due to geopolitics

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i think that putin hasn't digested the fact that the west is supporting ukraine yet
      hes in denial and honestly he should have declared full mobilization at the very beginning and captured kiev >in 2 weeks

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that seems pretty much out of the question by now. the only chance was with the "feint"

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Like isnt Russia getting 300,000 troops bad for Ukraine's counter offensive
    It's bad for both Ukraine and Russia. More meat for the meat grinder.

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Is Russia mobilizing really a sign of their desperation or is clown world propaganda too strong?
    Yes
    >Like isnt Russia getting 300,000 troops bad for Ukraine's counter offensive
    It the short term yes but in the long term they are putting too much strain on their logistic system and solders with literally no morale or training are likely to revolt creating further problems down the line

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Clown world nonsense. Ukraine has had zero significant victories and everywhere the Russians have prepared, the Ukrainians have failed time and again, look at the catastrophe of Kherson over 15k Ukrainian casualties and 400 destroyed armoured vehicles the entire offensive has ground to an halt despite five months of preparing and hype buildup. Russia lets them take exposed land to overstretch and expose the Ukrainian lines while making their own lines more secure with more men per mile.

    70k Russians backed by 50k militia gen x'ers using WW2 and Cold War weapons have mauled an extremely large and powerful modernised European puppet NATO army backed by every NATO nation which has outnumbered them enormously since Day One.

    300k reservists +30k regular reinforcements being immediately deployed(everyone forgot that part!) will utterly ravage what remains of the corpse that is the Ukraine in the very likely offensive in the coming weeks.

    That's 330k new troops earmarked for Ukraine. Up from 70k just yesterday for a total of 400,000 Russian and 50,000 allied militias give or take a few thousand either side.

    Expect them to arrive in November. So a winter offensive looks likely and the reports from July of 500,000 pieces of winter equipment and clothing being stored in the Urals looks accurate now.
    According to TG, the 30k regular army reinforcements have already started crossing to reinforce the lines and over 160,000 reservists have already replied and accepted their call up orders and are now gathering at their grounds for refresher training as of tonight. Images of such bases are now going viral in Russia.

    Upwards of 1200 aircraft and helicopters are now in position aswell in airbases across the south military district and Belarus.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ukraine is claiming to have taken 40,000 casualties (killed and wounded) so far, out of a total of 300,000 personnel. And that's obviously a lowball, propagandised estimate, if you (for some reason) believe the Russian propaganda instead it's as many as 110,000 Ukrainian casualties.
      Ukraine also claims to have inflicted upwards of 160,000 casualties on the Russians, of a total of around 200,000 personnel. So, by Ukraine's own numbers (again, probably going to be distorted in their favour, the US estimate's between 60,000 and 80,000 Russian casualties), the Russians are preparing to send 2 men for every 1 the Ukrainians have wounded or killed so far. Like a Slavic hydra, more constantly popping up to exhaust Ukraine and clog up their barrels with expendable Russian entrails.
      Insane meatgrinder warfare

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      and then you woke up

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm no hohol fag but jesus christ how delusional are you. The Russians have been nothing but pushed back and ground down for 5 months now and lost an incredible amount of armor and materiel. Ukraine was never going to be a piece of cake but Russian tactical performance (outside of the first month of the war) has been far below expectations.

      An additional 300k soldiers should be able to turn it around (they should have been deployed 6 months ago) but it is still entirely possible that the Ukrainian state will survive this war and Russia will have to just make do with the ruined eastern oblasts as spoils.

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's to maintain the regions that will vote for the annexation to russia
    doubt they'll move much more on their own after september beyond those regions
    depends what the western reaction is though

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's throwing good money after bad. Russia's main problem is they can't afford their war. A full or partial mobilization will make the problem worse.

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