Is Protestantism what made Germanic culture so soulless, work-obsessed, and stifling compared to cultures that embraced Chatholic and Orthodox Christianity or is Protestantism just Christianity with inherent Germanic characteristics? In other words, what came first, the chicken or the egg?
Bavaria is catholic. They're just as hard working but with much more SOVL
If you're a Christian rather than Catholic, for example; you realize that forgiveness is nowhere near as easy or simple as eating a cookie.
Every sin you commit, you are aware that is worthy of Hell. Jesus Christ suffered a punishment in body and spirit; God himself shed his blood for you; for every sin you continue to commit. Even if you are eternally secure; this knowledge never departs from you. There is no temporal solution to your sins besides fixing them.
This makes a Christian by and large more moral than idolators; which is what God intended. Simple fear of Hell will never produce the love of God and love of neighbor which will lead to True Morality on this earth.
If you believe you have to "be good" to be saved, this will NECESSARILY lead to you lying to yourself about just how sinful you really are.
Think of the maxim
>if I know anything I know that I know nothing
Similar is true in regards to morality
>If I am moral at all it is in knowing that I am totally immoral
Your churches look like they were designed by naggers
Thank you for corroborating my words.
>mfw when germanic protty got compared to a literal nagger, and his reaction is to be proud of it
Which churches are loaded with bling?
>will lead to True Morality on this earth.
So when does this happen? The world has only gotten worse because of Protestants. They put the Individual on a Pedestal, and then got blindsided by Enlightenment thinkers who took that further and ran with it.
America in its heyday was better than any European country to ever exist.
Obviously we live in an imperfect world
That’s the whole point
OP is whining that “Protestants” are moral and hard-working
Catholics subscribe to penance too, you know. The idea of faith without works was something started by Protestant denominations.
Literally just read the Catechism before commenting on Catholics again
The simple believeth every word
What a way to never have to honestly engage with anyone you disagree with ever
>And Jesus said to Billy Graham: thou art Billy Graham, and on that Billy Graham I will build my Church
>And Jesus said to Luther: thou art Luther, and on that Luther I will build my Church
>And Jesus said to Benny Hinn: thou art Benny Hinn, and on that Benny Hinn I will build my
Church
You just missed the extended part of the Gospel, anon
They really do be like that.
>And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.
>Specifically by that I mean whoever sits in your magic chair (you're getting a magic chair by the way) is infallible forever until the end of time, but don't tell anyone that for another 1,800 years.
His religion is on its final days, anon. Show some mercy
Lmao one could argue Anglicans aren’t Protestant so that means the properly Protestant population of England is 13%
Hmmm, but most amerimutt protties aren't anglicans.
But I get your point, though. British protestantism is literally gone. In the next two decades, we'll just witness the burial of the cadaver
Based
This is why I damn Anglicanism by the way
>LULZ tradcath confuses himself with God
They're getting more deranged
Oh, I'm getting DELIRIOUS, baby!
How do catholic Ireland and Belgium compare?
Better than you, even with all the obstacles
Interesting that you say that as you post a different country
Yes, because we can still do that. Unlike some other people LMAO
kino
I pray for the conversion of Albania every day
>Every sin you commit, you are aware that is worthy of Hell.
"The death of God is a religious event – a transgression, experiment in damnation, and stroke of antitheistic warfare – but this is not to say it is pre-eminently a crime. Hell has no interest in our debauched moral currency. To confuse reactive dabblings in sin with expeditions in damnation is Christian superficiality; the Dantean error of imagining that one could earn oneself an excursion in Hell, as if the infernal too was a matter of justice. Our crimes are mere stumblings on the path to ruin, just as every projected *Hell on Earth* is a strict exemplar of idolatry. Transgression is not criminal action, but tragic fate; the intersection of an economically programmed apocalypse with the religious antihistory of poetry. It is the inevitable occurrence of impossibility, which is not the same as death, but neither is it essentially different."
"Bataille’s texts are ‘a hecatomb of words without gods or reason to be’, led back down through the crypts of the West by a furious impulse to dissociate theism and religion, and thus to return the sacred to its shamanic impiety, except that nothing can ever simply return, and Hell will never be an innocent underworld again. The depths have become infernal, really so, quite irrespective of the fairy tales we are still told. ‘[F]lames surround us / the abyss opens beneath our feet’ reports Bataille from the brink of the impossible, ‘an abyss that does not end in the satiate contemplation of an absence’ because its lip is the charred ruin of even the most sublimed subjectivity. ‘I have nothing to do in this world’, he writes, ‘[i]f not to burn’. ‘I suffer from not burning … approaching so close to death that I respire it like the breath of a lover’."
>except that nothing can ever simply return, and Hell will never be an innocent underworld again
>experiment in damnation
The underworld was never a particularly nice place.
modern 21st Germanic culture got all their inspo from Nippon
>Ugu! 'Mein Leben ist zu hart!!!'
>becomes atheist
No, austrians, flemish and south germans are neurotic too.
Probably much more than anglos actually
They are more neurotic, but tend to be honest to your face compared to Anglos, so it's a mixed bag.
You could say protestantism is a Franco-Germanic development and the change in emphasis on work is a result of protestantism. It is fair to place hard workingness as the egg laid by the protestant chicken.
Protestantism isn't unified so it's hard to even answer this. Lutherism are full beer enjoyers, but they also have Reformist groups that are fully against drinking.
Teetotalism is a revivalist, great awakening thing. It's mostly Baptist and Methodist.
I'm from the Reformed Episcopal Church.
I drink, and we have both wine and grape juice offered in communion.
Going back a century ago they were more Temperance though.
>we have both wine and grape juice offered in communion.
The grape juice thing bothers me so much. I get it, the Romans' wine was more more watered down, but if you're worried about that, JUST WATER DOWN YOUR WINE, DON'T USE FUCKING MINUTE MAID.
Well it's mainly children here who have thr grape juice.
The adults are generally cool with having wine for themselves
The Bible never says to give children grape juice. It only mentions wine.
It doesn't even mention that.
?
>This is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. I tell you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it anew with you in My Father’s kingdom.
He told that to the apostles with him.
How can you say for sure it was addressed to everyone in existence to be?
>So Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I tell you, unless you eat the flesh and drink the blood of the Son of Man, you have no life in you. Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For My flesh is real food, and My blood is real drink. Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood remains in Me, and I in him. Just as the living Father sent Me and I live because of the Father, so also the one who feeds on Me will live because of Me. This is the bread that came down from heaven."
well isn't Calvinism like "work yourself to death goy" and "send 8yo to work 16 hours shift at the factory"?
>There are an estimated nine million baptised Catholics in Portugal (84% of the population) in twenty dioceses, served by 2789 priests. Although a large number wish to be baptized, married in the church, and receive last rites, only 19% of the national population attend Mass and take the sacraments regularly.
>31% of U.S. adults said they attended church in the past seven days, remaining below the 34% measured before the pandemic and the 40% measured in most years before 2013.
So it's basically just cultural catholics ticking the "Catholic" box come census time even if they only step inside a church for weddings, baptisms, and funerals. Wow such devotion, much worship etc
>Wow such devotion, much worship etc
An uncle of mine went to the US earlier this year. He said he didn't find a single prottie church that didn't have rainbows, BLM flags and other shit like that
Well yeah that’s what happens when you refuse to check out the local
>Bible Baptist Church
Or such like
Humble yourself for once.
On ther extreme, i have never seen an lgbt flag in a church, i dont know where people are getting this pictures.
>Same-sex marriage has been legal in Portugal since 5 June 2010.
And in literally every protty country.
No matter what you say, everything you try to accuse us of is a thousand times worse in your "churches".
Good thing you're quickly becoming a thing of the past, so no one will ever have to bother with hypocrite liars like you. People are tired of your lies
>Yeah, actual religiosity has declined in our countries to the point politicians can get gay marriage laws passed, but *shoves glasses up nose* we still tick the Catholic box at census time - your move, prot
Just do mankind a favor and never waste our time again with your lies.
And make sure to remember the last one to come out of your "churches" to turn off the light and close the door.
Goodbye
Cope
>Pope realizes Evangelicals have dropped so many Protestant rules they actually are beginning to drop the Anti-Papist autism
>teleports behind Protestantism and allies Evangelicalism
Heh... nothing personal kiddo
More like no one really cares about these gay denominational slapfights as much as the e-christians here pretend to
What are you in the thread for then? You act like some granny who sticks her head in where she doesn't belong.
If people are going to keep shitting up this place with these threads I'm going to keep shitposting in them, cry to the mod if you don't like it fag
The only one crying here is you. Just ignore it like a man. Stop losing your shit over the existence of "threads". Count your blessings too if that's all you have.
Keep crying
the reformation was mainly a political move made by german princes to assert themselves over the papacy and Holy Roman Empire
Now you realize that Judaism and Protestantism are the extremes and Catholicism is in the rightful central position
Americans should stay white and protestant tbh. it's worked out fine for them and it is an iconic aspect of their culture. the day the gringos lose their culture is the day we suffer a chain reaction of shitting the bed
t. brown catholic to the south
This nigga is straight up retarded. You are catholic right? what does catholic mean? It means including all makind. You believe your church is the one true church made for all mankind and their is no salvation outside of it. That's the rules you have to believe that to go to heaven. You are putting yourself in hell by being a retard on the computer.
>wtf noooooo, you need to oppress and try to convert me!
Why do you want to be oppressed by Catholics so badly?
Hispanic Catholics aren't trying to force their religion on anyone, it's the white evangelicals who are doing that. This is just pure projection.
I'm Irish Catholic, I'm pointing out how odd it is the guy I am replying to, some non-Catholic, is angry I am *not* trying to oppress or convert them
I'd understand if it was some edgy 14 year old trad cath, but this actually stumps me.
>this nigga is....
nagger babble detected. Opinions dismissed.
>the day the gringos lose their culture is the day we suffer a chain reaction of shitting the bed
I would make preparations.
proteshitism is not culture
Lmao aren't cuckthlics the ones holding literal clown masses?
Hey LULZ anons, watch this gospel video if you want to be 100% sure of going to heaven after you die. This is a must watch video for catholics, protestants, and orthodox churchgoers.
"Once Saved, Always Saved" - A must watch sermon for people who are doubting their salvation.
Religion doesn't do shit. It's race.
Catholics are lazy good for nothing brown shitheads who sleep half the day, Germanics Protestants are far better. This is why you brown freaks try to emigrate to Protestant countries and not vice versa.
You shall know them by their fruits.
>Buh muh wealth and geedeepee.
You know what jeebus thought about wealth, Wilhelm.
Then why do you keep begging for our money and trying to get here, you fucking brown loser? Also our society has less crime, which countries are known for their mafia? Oh right, brown Catholic shitholes.
>You shall know them by their fruits.
liveleak cartel execution videos?