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Is music subjective?

Pic unrelated.

  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    all art is objective

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      elaborate

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        If Art wasn't objective. AI wouldn't be able to recreate it.

      • 1 week ago
        microdoser_of_toxic_ex_gfs

        Art is measured by objective measurements of aesthetic values based on what value system you subscribe to.

        For example, a "song" is a conventional thing. Go back through the history of song and see the rules of what makes something work and not work. You can have personal preferences but they always refer to the rules that define the thing.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

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          • 1 week ago
            microdoser_of_toxic_ex_gfs

            >poor form
            kek
            ok, this guy

            >Taylor Swift's music is objectively good.
            lol
            tripfag opinion = into the trash it goes

            *smug emoji smirk smiley*

            🙂

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          The only objective measurement for whether something could be ascribed as art: is time. How much of the most valuable limited resource did human/s put into crafting some thing.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            down syndrome marxoid

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Call me names all you want, but I will never admire ai art as much as some painting that some man spent 20 plus hours crafting.

              • 1 week ago
                microdoser_of_toxic_ex_gfs

                you sound like my father.

                ai is not as interesting or as powerful as ohi.

                I agree.

                however, if Beethoven could write the 9th in improvisation - literally writing it in that 60-72 minute time - it would NOT be less impressive than if he took four years to compose it. It would, in fact of my own sensibility to it, be *more* beautiful.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I will never admire a solo instrumental piece over a symphony.

              • 1 week ago
                microdoser_of_toxic_ex_gfs

                that's cool, brah, but I was supposing a hypothetical.

                hypothetically, a human mind can generate an orchestra of sounds. it is actually a common phenomena that I myself have personally experienced. cool enough, I know someone else who has experienced it, as well.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_hallucinations

                Besides, that is tangential to the point -- my point stands that if he improvised it in its entirety - all the parts - it would be more beautiful.. of course, I mean, if it was an intentional expression of passion, and not just a hallucination. what do you think?

                Alternatively, if you don't like the idea of a symphony, we can pose Fur Elise, or Piano Sonata 14. Do you not see how an improvisation of either of those in a rapture of passionate expression could be more beautiful than if a mind took four years, or months, to compose it?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I'll admire a Rembrandt more than shit stained scribbles by a down syndrome retard who has been shitting on a canvas for 10 years

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                The point is: respect your time.

          • 1 week ago
            microdoser_of_toxic_ex_gfs

            that is incorrect.

            The value of what is created in time is not valued by the quantity of time but the quality of the creation.

            ..yes it is possible to adjust our value based on how time may have limited someone's quality of output but in most cases people will judge based on the quality of it according to the Rules with some possible accounting for the time its consumption and appreciation requires of the consumer-appreciator

    • 1 week ago
      microdoser_of_toxic_ex_gfs

      checking once again. can't just let a Taylor thread die that ez.

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    No. If you don't like Metallica you're literally Hitler.

  3. 1 week ago
    microdoser_of_toxic_ex_gfs

    Taylor Swift's music is objectively good.

    So, no.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Taylor Swift's music is objectively good.
      lol
      tripfag opinion = into the trash it goes

      • 1 week ago
        microdoser_of_toxic_ex_gfs

        I have a funny name so I count 🙂

      • 1 week ago
        microdoser_of_toxic_ex_gfs

        *objectively* funny

        all art is objective

        checked. fbpb. /thread

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I objectively Lover

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    If you mean good music, then it is objective up to a point. If you have a plain bad singer, then it will ruin the song no matter how good it is written/composed. Same goes for if it's out of tune, bad production, bad instrumentation etc. By bad, I mean its done by people who have no idea what they're doing.

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    bump

    • 1 week ago
      microdoser_of_toxic_ex_gfs

      thank you

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like people say music or art is subjective to mislead people into liking garbage.

    For you see, there's beauty when an object has the right proportions and when it doesn't then we get this weird impression that something is off.

    Now, a creative person may play with that and it gives us unnusual feelings, but if the proportions are all purposefully wrong then it's just ugly and annoying.

    Like, shit is not beautiful and it stinkings. You may like the smell of your own shit, but don't expect others to enjoy it as you do. Like, sometimes taking a shit feels good, but it doesn't change the fact that it is shit.

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