Thought thats been in my head for a while.
I know manowar is known as one of the first power metal bands.
But a notable portion of their songs don't seem to really be power metal, and feel to me a bit like doom metal or something more experimental.
A few examples:
Each Dawn I die
Bridge of Death
Is there anything to this, or am I just ignorant about genres? Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
That's because Manowar is really just a "heavy metal" band
Could you elaborate?
For Heavy Metal We Will Die!
Meaning, I think they fit better on a shelf next to Dio and Judas Priest rather than power metal bands. Though, like Dio, and Maiden, and Priest, they pretty much were hugely influential on cementing the tropes OF power metal.
Manowar is literally heavy metal
It's that proto-power metal style of 80s mainstream heavy metal. Doesn't exactly belong to another metal subgenre
slowness and heaviness isn't exclusive to doom metal
What a fucking moron.
Legitimately braindead retard
To be clear, the titles a joke. A lot of manowars songs definitely aren't doom.
Doesnt matter it just shows your ignorance of genres, like you said yourself
cool; thanks for shitting up the board with more low quality posts
theres way worse posts on rhere
It's the other way around, epic doom is slowed down power metal. The line between these genres was very thin in the early/mid 80s, and Leif Edling was Mark Shelton's protege.
>slowness and heaviness isn't exclusive to doom metal
Sure. Manowar definitely has slower power metal songs.
But songs like hatred are definitely doom metal, and aren't power metal at all.
>But songs like hatred are definitely doom metal, and aren't power metal at all.
Yeah that's what I meant when I said epic doom is slowed down PM. Epic doom uses power metal methods to a totally different effect, but it's a direct outgrowth from that genre. Sabbath derived bands like Pentagram or Vitus never really intersected with power metal stylings
It's because power metal and doom metal are both extensions of heavy metal, and Manowar is heavy metal, so they can have songs that are reminiscent of those genres
Some of their songs are. Manowar was formed out of a bunch of guys touring with Black Sabbath.
Into Glory Ride in particular is just a straight Epic Doom Metal album from start to end, about as doomish as Epicus Doomicus. A lot of the songs in the former sound like they are a vocal track swap away from being on the latter. Solstice covered a track from there, too.
>Into Glory Ride is Epic Doom Metal
No, stop overclassifying things ffs.
they're conan core
zased, by fvcking crom so zased
we need a resurgence of true sword and sorcery with conancore instrumentals for epic power scenes.
like how dragon ball z movies perfectly used numetal to make fight scenes so much more based.
This is so true, and the epic sword and sorcery stuff pretty much died when Dio did. Maiden gets close to it now and then. This was the kind of thing that drew me to metal in the first place. Stuff like Dio, Crusader, some later Rainbow stuff, and the early thrash (before it was called thrash). Manowar apparently is still touring and releasing new work, I think they’re the only ones carrying the flame for the proto-power/fantasy metal sound.
Thanks, haven’t listened to this, will check it out
This is another more modern band, kinda cool too
Don't recommend this shit.
>Don't recommend Visigoth
The fuck kind of crack you smoking? They're one of the VERY few good NWOTHM bands.
I think there's a chunk of good ones, just not all in the power metal style
I do kind of hate the "nwothm" label though, it's like how is it a new wave at this point, it's just bands playing in styles, people trying to pass off anything in an older style as "retro" as opposed to genres that can still exist annoy me cause it seems to imply metal NEEDS to embrace modern genres, and like sorry no I'm not fucking listening to djent or deathcore
I agree that the moniker of "NWOTHM" is gay as fuck. Just call it heavy metal. Enforcer and Ambush are alright. As far as your power metal comment, I prefer that over the onslaught of dogshit Maiden clones and the power metal that completely jumped the shark like Dragonforce or whatever Negru tries to shill.
Dragonforce fully embraced being a meme, they really are like the definition of jumping the shark in metal
at least they were in a racist band, that was based
, thanks for the recs, I’ll give them a try. It’s hard to find this stuff when I have limited time and metal has been mostly subsumed by its own, extreme variants. Metal threads on this board alone are like 90% black metal bs…
we need more pure pulp, I think. not shite like what Razorfist is pumping out, proper good stuff. bring back Commando Pulp; operators post-ww2 and cold war doing wetwork and shit.
I read that fella's book, the one that was similar to Thief. It was OK. Wouldn't call it shit, but it isn't Conan or Elric.
It would be nice if pulp stories made a comeback.
Not to make this thread too LULZ, but that would require a short story market, which just doesn’t exist anymore. I only know of a few obscure mail order mags now; there was a revival version of weird tales back in the late 2000s but it was pretty pozzed, not like the old pulps.
Numetal is dbz movies was always weird but somehow it worked.
>Some of their songs are. Manowar was formed out of a bunch of guys touring with Black Sabbath.
>Into Glory Ride in particular is just a straight Epic Doom Metal album from start to end, about as doomish as Epicus Doomicus. A lot of the songs in the former sound like they are a vocal track swap away from being on the latter. Solstice covered a track from there, too.
You can definitely hear the black sabbath influence on a few of their songs.
I think hatred was a good example of this.