>23 y/o, majored in CS, pay $2000 a month to live alone in an apartment outside a major tech hub
>remote work in cybersecurity making $104k a year, basically never leave my house unless necessary
>manlet (5'5), dick is 4.85" erect, too scared to go to a gym and become LULZ
>extreme social anxiety and 100% straight, yet ive never kissed a girl or ever been on a date and too autistic to go to a bar
>just talking or being next to a girl makes my heartrate skyrocket and feel like im having a panic attack
>no real friends, only hobbies are playing indie games no ones heard of and watching streams, too scared to play multiplayer games with VOIP
>my family thinks im very successful and just quiet but they don't know im a literal social failure
>whenever they ask about how im doing, i just tell them i have a secret clearance and can't talk about my life (they somehow believe it)
is it too late to fix myself and become normal? these are basically the only options im considering
>suicide and giving my family all my savings as an apology
>third-world mail order bride
>paying some findom girl to pretend to love me
>larp & catfish as a chad on twitter
>pinkpill and become a femboy/tranner (not white enough to be attractive, probably 6/10 at best)
It's never too late anon. But you have to face your fears.
You are a dime a dozen. Do you want a gf and a lot of friends or do you have low self esteem and other people make you feel bad about being yourself
its not over i think these are pretty much all perfect qualities in a guy
kek. If he was neet and living with his parents, you wouldn't be saying this shit. Gold digging whores
yeah no shit retard you wouldn't want some fat ugly schizoid woman who doesn't wipe her ass
You're basically me, but I'm a little better off physically but also a lot older than you
>35
>Comp Sci degree
>work from home developer
>Have never and will never touch a woman intimately
>5'9'', 6'' dick, fully white
>play old or obscure video games or heavily modded bethesda games
>want to work out but too socially anxious to go to a gym
>Have talked to girls online for dating, but I always lose interest or never know how to convert the conversation into a date
how do you cope with the loneliness, i distract myself with twitch streams and gaming but sometimes it creeps up on me and ruins my whole day
just telling me to solve my problems aren't going to solve my problems
both, its not mutually exclusive
its incredibly ironic but my ideal gf doesn't browse LULZ or even knows what it is
>ow do you cope with the loneliness
Honestly I don't know. It used to get to me when I was your age, but I cope better now, but I do every so often see family. It's not the same as hanging out with your peers or with actual girls, but it's better than nothing. There was a time when I was truly alone for a couple years and my mental health got pretty fucking bad. I just threw myself into video games and joylessly consumed them nonstop during my waking hours and tried to kill myself twice. For you, going out is probably too hard. I'd recommend you join some discord communities or find some other online shit you can start to be active and social in.
>just telling me to solve my problems aren't going to solve my problems
That's right, only actions will solve your problems. You have to commit to taking action. No amount of exchanging words here will complete those actions. You have to face your fears. There is no advice. You know what needs to be done, and you need to do it and keep doing it until you break through to victory on the other side.
>B-b-but I'm too scared!! I want help, I don't want to fix shit on my own!
This retard
> its incredibly ironic but my ideal gf doesn't browse LULZ or even knows what it is
kek. i am starting to realize that too.
you can always bend the stereotype a bit. theres like thousand of cs people who have social anxiety and fit your description. why not do something that breaks the mold a bit? idk what that would be but surely you have an interest that isnt just vidya and programming.
>how do you cope with the loneliness
There is no loneliness. Just realize most people are shit and you will never feel loneliness. Get a dog unironically if you are a little bitch.
What kills men is the lack of pussy.
do you want a black fembot gf?
i have a crush on u from reading this do u want me to fall in love with u over the internet
>wah wah im rich but I can't get pussy cause I'm scwared to twalk to gwirls my wife is so sad and my pp smol ;;''~~*((
Shut the fuck up you omega pussy you are literally in the top 1% of all men. 4 inches is literally average across the globe and 5'5 isn't even that short. Just start microdosing shots of alcohol and go walk around a park and talk to people. You will literally feel the anxiety disappear when you realize that you're just being a gigapussy and all your problems are in your head and don't actually exist
Dude you make more in a year than I've ever had in my life. Go use it to make up for the rest of your apparent failings.
your situation is fairly relatable, except i'm unemployed since no companies feel like hiring me and i have no connections
there's also the fact companies are asking juniors to dominate a gorillion different things on a deep level and have some work experience on top of that just so they can pay a jr. level salary to a sr. or mid
>tell them i have a secret clearance and can't talk about my life (they somehow believe it)
sounds dope though, i'm not in security but it'd be nice to be able to lie about that, lol
Would you consider dating a guy?
good disproof that having a job/a good income is enough to have a gf
Go try a new skill like skateboarding/rock climbing and practice laughing at yourself when you screw up. It's normal to be embarrassed, it's not the end of the world. It'll be uncomfortable in public at first but that goes away. You might even have fun.
You got this anon.
hey buddy do you know what dyspraxia is
Then go on a hike or a walk anon it's not that hard. You need some level of exercise to not wither away into dust. Roll around in a wheelchair if you have to. It's better than becoming a druggie and necking yourself in a couple of years.
>small dick
yup
you are just goy milk
Could you please give me some money for surgeries if you're gonna kys anyway?
>is it too late
nonsense, it's never too late. you can DO something about these things that're bothering you, but the catch is you have to quite literally DO something about them.
i'm the same age bro. I have many of the same issues.
>pay fuckload of money to live alone
>dont leave house unless necessary
>debilitating social anxiety especially around women
>no real friends and niche interests
>no real connection with family
stop worrying about what you can't change, aka your height and dick size. if you're legitimately distressed about these things then find a way to get over it. it's what you got and you'll only go crazy worrying about this shit that doesnt matter.
everything else you can change, but you have to push into fear (like assaulting into enemy contact) to make anything happen. i'm terrified of multiplayer games, especially if ppl can spectate you, yet i'm getting less fearful of them just because i forced myself to at least type something in chat. i'm terrified of talking to people, yet i've gotten better because i love coffee and have been going to coffee shops constantly for years now and all the social experience just built up. i have little reason to leave my house, but groceries/errands force me out, and very nice weather is at least reason to chill on my patio. the small things add up.
>fix myself and become normal
forget about being normal. that shit doesnt matter. especially in CS. everyone's a fucking weirdo in some way or another. you live alone brother. you're financially independent. think very hard about what you want in your life and then try taking steps toward making it happen.
you won't find an exact answer you want here because this is entirely your own situation that needs your own solution. be wary of falling into toxic friendships just because you're so lonely you'll bite at whatever offers itself. nothing happens overnight, but nothing will ever happen if you throw your hands up and wallow in misery indefinitely.
You already know how it goes, troon out or die
Trooning out is what causes death
I became a neet to avoid becoming like you
Now im broke. This is worse
Also 22
>is it too late to fix myself and become normal?
yes
just get some professional pictures taken, get on dating apps, some nerdy chicks will flock to you because you have money, there is hope
Seriously man, get medication or therapy for your anxiety/depression (even if you use pills as a temporary fix), that's the first step imo, it'll get you strong enough for the next step
Then you need to educate yourself. How did people dig themselves out of their holes? Plenty of book on that, it'll change your perspective on life. Of course you feel like shit if you keep yourself in your little box of misery without any new input on what life is.
Then when you're a bit better and feel like less of a piece of shit, go to the gym and become fit. If you still can't because too much anxiety, buy some equipement and lift at home. You can use elastics and calisthenics if you don't have enough space for weights, but tbh you don't need much equipement to get fit, just a good workout plan, enough calories and protein and disipline.
All of these steps will make you FEEL better, like, ridiculously better. More confident. That's the foundation you need to start growing the balls you need to put your personality out there. If you don't have a personality, even better, you can make one from scratch. Take inspiration from people or fictional characters you personally relate to. It takes time, but do realise everyone wears a mask, you just have to carve your own, no shame in that.
The social parts takes a lot of trial and error, but it become easier and easier with time.
As for getting a girl, tbh don't think about it too hard for now. Don't try to run before you've learned to walk, it's a recipe for failure. Think of it like a pyramid. Start by building the base (mental health, not wanting to end life), then the middle (self confidence, self love, physical health) then the top (social life, woman, going out). You can't skip steps, and it's useless to think two steps ahead. People won't want to be your friend if they can tell you're a wreck. And believe me, they can tell.
All that takes effort, patience, discipline, and a loooot of time (1/2)
>make $104k/y
>still suicidal
anon let me tell you - you probably don't feel shitty because of your life, it's probably a psychiatric thing. I'd reccomend going to a therapist or just doing the shit that makes you happy
even if you don't feel that way, $104k/y is an outrageous amount to make for a 23 year old. you basically make more than >99% of people your age. spend some money on yourself sometime, do something interesting like travel or eat good food, buy nice clothes, etc. stop worrying about how you're doing socially because at this point 1. it doesn't sound like you really like being social in the first place 2. you're a cut above the rest and have excellent means to pursue things that interest you
the problem is it sounds like you're worrying about stuff that you aren't actually interested in pursuing - you just want to have these things to tick off a box or basically just cut to the payoff part of the "goal" without actually trying to enjoy getting there. it's like wanting to become a master painter but you absolutely hate painting. at this point you have to accept either that you must either open yourself up to enjoying the process of "painting" (socializing) without caring about results, or you have to accept that "painting" isn't your thing.
put yourself out there, if it isn't fun, don't kill yourself over it.
that'll be $50k btw
> at this point you have to accept either that you must either open yourself up to enjoying the process of "painting" (socializing) without caring about results
what exactly are the results you should be looking for? 99 percent of the time i interact with people i feel drained afterwards. how do i know if im just not "socialized enough" or its just not my thing. granted, it seems lots of times they just weren't compatible people.
Anon have you considered acquiring a taste for substance abuse?
>23
>$100k income
this is larp
Most of the people I graduated with are making around that and are around that age.
People tend to forget that young people can make money as long as they are in the correct trade. A friend I know does outages working 3-months pulling in 6 figures. Sure he works like hell during those 3-months but he gets to kick back for the other 9months while I still wage kek
Nice thing is, if you do exactly what I have said, every single month will be a direct upgrade from the last one. Every step up you get on the pyramid will be rewarded. And eventually, when you reach the top, you'll feel better than everyone else. Because you will have done it all by yourself. And that's a source of confidence not a lot of people have, and it'll give you an edge. It sure did for me.
All I did was tell you what I've done over the last 7 years. It took me 3 to reach the top. It's a never ending journey, but now that I've figured my shit out, every challenge i encounter is so much easier.
Trust me man, it's worth it. Self improvement will take you to places you never imagined.
Good luck, be strong, I wish you well. (2/2)
im 2 years younger, pay 200 dollars less a month for rent, and make a bit more than you (cus i live in the bay fml). Other than that, you described me down to a T. CS, indie games, twitch streams to quell loneliness, and the lifelong social anxiety part.
I dont rly know the answer because I havent gotten my shit together yet, but im planning on joining some meetup groups to go hiking or something. Loneliness is rly killing me too here. I talk to like 2 or 3 people at work but its only to ask questions about things. Most of them are boomers too. But since you mentioned you're remote, try going to the office more? It's not great social interaction but at least its something. Even if you could accomplish the same work at home. Sometimes the act of just going outside can lift your mood by a lot. I'm convinced sitting in a room by yourself for long periods of time will have a detrimental effect on anyone, cus I did it for 4 years through college and I felt like shit every day.
Also I totally get you on leaving the house. I have a hard time justifying going outside other than to go work. I hate how my brain is conditioned to think that way. But meeting more people is the only way out of this mess, you probably work with zero women like me
why are so many interesting guys concetrated in this one thread? lol
misery loves company
not sure what you find interesting about them though, but i won't question
>not sure what you find interesting about them though, but i won't question
They make a lot of money
doesn't sound interesting in the least to me, but to each their own, lol
doctors make alot of money, but they aren't very interesting as partners lol, ceos and landlords make alot of money but they're bad people alot of the time, anyone can make money if they're privileged and evil enough
they're computer science stemcels which is a based type of incel, because computers are cool
btw doctors aren't bad people, they just work alot
>Interesting
Just say wealthy, dumb cunt.
>23 y/o, majored in CS, pay $2000 a month to live alone in an apartment outside a major tech hub
work in cybersecurity making $104k a year,
Go fuck yourself.
work in cybersecurity making $104k a year
you aren't supposed to be a failure, anon.
it's remote work, this may come as a surprise but remote work actually harms your social skills since you're not physically interacting with anyone
if it was hybrid or on-premise that'd be another story
the main point is
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work your ass harder. buy some books and go /bis/. get a healthy life, in short, get LULZ. This mf could be living like Tony Stark if he wasn't a moron.
you're basically just saying "just be better bro", as if it's that easy
and paying someone to teach you how to be normal, that just sounds like going to therapy or something, correct me if i'm wrong
but money means nothing if you don't have the drive, which i'm not sure OP has, though it's true that you can try those if you really want to
You have the money to pay someone to teach you retard
Just become a cybercriminal it will be fun. Quit being such a bitch.
>23, y/o dropped out of CS years ago, pay $1500 a month to live alone in an apartment outside a major tech hub
>work in cyber security making 94k a year, I'm on the night shift so I hardly ever leave my house except for work
>king of manlets (6'), 6.5" erect, go to the gym sometimes but always stop after a few months of consistency
>Go out once every other week, only have one friend in this city since I just moved here
>Most of my family is extremely disappointed in me. Especially on my Dad's side. Almost all of my cousins are studying medicine to become doctors except me.
>Use the same clearance excuse when they ask about my life. It doesn't help.
I don't know why I shared all that except I found it interesting that we're fairly similar.
OP. I didn't lose my virginity until I turned 21. Honestly being a 5'5 manlet isn't the end of the world IMO. I know that sounds unbelievable coming from someone who is over 6'. HOWEVER my former roommate (foid) wanted absolutely nothing to do with me, and she ended up dating a 5'5 turbomanlet instead.
I'm just saying that it's totally possible to be socially successful as a manlet. Just get your anxiety under control with drugs (legal or illicit) and alcohol. Once you're more used to talking to normies and girls you won't even need em.
>100% straight
>pinkpill and become a femboy/tranner (not white enough to be attractive, probably 6/10 at best)
lmao
fucking tranny larper, you almost had me
op: my ideal woman doesn't even know what LULZ is
also op: omg i will literally turn trans if it fixes my life (being trans doesn't work like this)
>suicide and giving my family all my savings as an apology
Fuck your family use all your money on hookers and drugs
>third-world mail order bride
They don't exist
>paying some findom girl to pretend to love me
Pathetic just fuck a hooker
>larp & catfish as a chad on twitter
You can't fuck them
>pinkpill and become a femboy/tranner
You want to take dicks in your asshole?
The only good solution here is suicide. You are 23 KHV you will never be normal.
i'm 23 and a khhv and i'm fine lol, the idea that everyone has to know and plan everything about their life the moment they become an adult is a psyop, life is spent living, and in your 20s is the time where that's somewhat possible
Kill yourself namefag. A 23 years old KHV man will never be normal.
Go shill your schizoid personality mentall illness somewhere else.
work in cybersecurity making $104k a yea
Yeah bro its so over. Get therapy retard
>Get therapy
Stupid meme to part fools and their money therapy is useless.
Okay while everyone is here telling op to end themselves, how do I get into cyber security? I would literally do anything to work from home. I make like 40k working at a distribution center and I'm probably retarded too
>and I'm probably retarded too
Which is why you'll never make it in cybersecurity. Fucktard.
If OP, who is so mentally ill that he literally can't talk to a woman without breaking down, can get a 6 figure tech job then what is stopping someone like me? Whats with everyone's crabs-in-a-buckets mentality, we should all be trying to win here.
IT is fucking hard nagger especially cybsec or else every retard and his dog would be doing it.
You think people don't want to sit in an office and make bank?
Military, obviously.
Just tell the recruiter that you'll only take a cyber job.
Hey, want me to take your virginity?
if u got a remote job go to latin america and open up tinder bruhhhhhh
>mentions 100k/year
>whores instantly flooding the thread
HAHAHAHAH. literally cant make this up
Do not consider findom as an option, anon. It is a rabbit hole you can't get out of
You're only 23 and at least you're fully self sufficient.
>is it too late to fix myself and become normal?
No, but it will only happen if you force yourself to do some things you really really don't want to. The opportunity to gain social skills and confidence only lies in the situations that you'd typically do almost anything to avoid, and you need to stop avoiding them and start actively seeking them. It's very unlikely that you'll do it
i'd trade my height (6'2") and dick size (7") for your job/money in a instant. i have a gf amd can get fwb and ons somewhat easily but it doesn't mean anything if you're poor and your body constantly hurts from working manual labor. sex is underwhelming and i don't give a fuck about love or companionship since i have schizoid personality disorder.
Date, or get involved in hobbies, or move closer to your family since you're doing remote work anyways. Don't try to be some kind of anti-social max. You're doing fine, just take care of the social part.
some findom girl to pretend to love me
This is never the answer
you make good money and you still enjoy your hobbies so you're better off than me.
cool, I'm 23 and have never worked a day in my life.
>be smart enough to get a cs degree
>is it le over for me xD
Fuck off.
You did well, looking at what you received from nature, you achieved something.
>muh I'm a failure 'cuz I didn't fuck any women
Loser on what? Life? Life has no clear goal in which you can say you won or lost. In the same world you live in there are blind people, cripples, people in concentration camps. You're not a loser, anon, this word has a new meaning around every corner you pass.
Now, if you hold on to titles like that, you have chosen to be a loser.
Go have fun with something using your money, the only good thing in life is to have fun. Also, gym isn't the only way to become LULZ, you can do a simple home gym, or focus on calisthenics only, for the beginning