I hear people talk about how university is worth it in the end but I’ve also heard people talk about how going into university is pointless and a waste of money. Do you need to go to university in order to be successful in life?
Is going to uni worth it?
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You need to go to university IF your career plan requires it. If you're on the fence, a two year community college associates is a great middle ground. Jumping into a full university bachelor's is always stupid, even if that's the end goal in the first place. Don't waste money doing 100 level classes at university prices.
This. Never ever go to uni unless it fits into your career plan
Ahhh. I think it might be inevitable for me since I want to go into nursing. I might do community college at first to save money though.
Sorry. I just got on break lol
Why would you think you could avoid college if you're going into nursing? This question is usually asked by people who have no ambitions
I’m not entirely sure yet. My family wants me to do a bunch of different things so I’ve been trying to explore different opportunities and what other things I could do. I think nursing is what I might stick to (obviously I have to go to college for that) but I am curious about other stuff as well
What other things? If anything on the table requires some, I would recommend just hitting up community college especially if your family is going to help pay (which I'd hope, if they're all being so vocal about their opinions). I got my associate of science transfer degree, which is designed to hit most of the prerequisites to transfer for a bachelors as a junior. Obviously I don't know much about associate of arts, but I assume that it'd be easier to apply associate of science to a non stem major than vis versa.
Sit down with an academic advisor at your local cc AND with a career counselor there.
I like this career interest survey here:
mynextmove.org/explore/ip
At the end, the list of careers that hit your priorities can be filtered by how much schooling it requires.
Thanks for the help Anon, this was very helpful!
I’m not entirely sure on what I’d want to do, but I know forensics, nursing, and psychology are definitely things that interest me. But overall I still am not entirely sure. My family really wants me to get on it though, so I know I have to make a decision eventually. I am taking a trip to my local cc soon so I think I’m gonna talk to the career counselor then.
Psychology is mostly voodoo horseshit, best to avoid.
I have heard some people say its useless, is that true?
It depends. If you’re using it just as an undergrad when planning to go into medicine or law, it’s fine. But you can really only do psych based jobs nowadays with a phD afterwards. Bachelor’s alone is kinda fruitless, but a lot are nowadays.
Psych has been one of the fields hardest hit by the replication crisis. Turns out, made-up nonsense has been taught as dogma for decades and nobody asked any questions. That's how rigorous this "science" is. Now, in terms of a career, it may be an acceptable path. But if you do choose it, go in knowing that it's a grift.
I was looking at therapists in my area for a friend. First site that popped up featured some woman offering "dramatherapy", where her therapy is delivered through the use of acting and improv. Coincidentally, she had a bachelor's of fine arts in drama as well as her psych degree. Another one offered "equine therapy", where, you guessed it, the therapy involves horse riding and being around horses. 3 guesses as to what her favorite hobby was. These people get a psych degree and shoehorn in whatever they enjoy doing, slap -therapy on the end, and charge $200/hr for the privilege. It's snake oil. Even psychiatric medicine is on the level of leeches and tinctures of wormwood. When an SSRI is prescribed, they pick a common formulation and dosage and see what happens. If no result, they raise the dosage. If that fails, try with another SSRI and repeat ad infinitum. We simply don't have the neuroscience to know what exactly depression IS on a structural or chemical level, so all they can do is roll the dice and hope something eventually works (before it induces suicidal ideation or causes the young man to go on a shooting spree). How can you call this a science?
As an M3, most medicine is trial and error, even ones not prescribed for mental disorders. Trial and error occurs in any science, esp soft ones, not necessarily shrinks’ faults. Psych can be a good degree. People who are good at psych go into HR or industrial psych; therapy is usually the route BA psych students take while the latter go on a BS route which includes cores from all the hard sciences. I’m saying this as someone who majored in psych and made up multiple back up plans incase my original plan was fucked. You can also do social or governmental work which is more niche but can pay well in the right cities.
It wont let you help people very much but it can useful for a career
The short answer is that university is intrinsically worthless but it’s valued a lot by this mad society so if you have any ambition it would be good to have a university degree. If you do have ambition, you just have to choose if you want to do the mainstream thing or shoot for being the exception.
dont do it ….
OP you got a response within four minutes of your post, you're really just going to abandon your thread that quickly?
In my estimation, 90% of threads here are just abandoned. No follow-up, no comment, not even a "hey good point" or anything. It's incredibly rude every time it happens
Yeah, drives me nuts. I've even stopped myself midway through a long response to just first ask if OP was even there, since why bother otherwise
NTA but maybe he's lurking his own post. I do that sometimes myself because I'm only looking for responses.
You just need a college degree tbh, just having a highschool education isn't enough these days.
Do you know what career you're going into?
If you need a degree than go to college, if you don't need one, then don't.
Don't let family waste your time
It depends on the degree. If it doesn't involve mathematics or the sciences its a waste of time. The only other thing would a law degree or language if teaching overseas like teaching English in Japan.
You appear to be unaware of the many non-stem careers that require a degree
Yes
>but it costs money!
Yes
In this day and age I think it is, career plan or not (unless you’re going to trade school). Uni is where u make connections both for ur social life and career, it matches you up with employers so you don’t get rejected 356,289 times and end up working at a McDonald’s, and you make some friends which is actually really fucking important. So many ppl ik now who never went to uni r honestly out of the loop developmentally and always complain about lack of a gf/friendgroup etc. Just get scholarships and go to a decentish school. It doesn’t have to be insanely good, and choose a decent major that you’ll be good at.
It doesn't make your opinion attractive when you write like a retard
He’s right though
doctor, lawyer, engineer.
if you aren't going to college for one of those three things, don't bother.
Depends on your plan for career.
I'll tell you this though. If you do NOT plan to socialize (a lot) with your peers and network (primarily through having a good time with them) the way I did not or if it's NOT some field you're really passionate about that you can see yourself not get filtered out of or burnt out on soon (and preferably will make you valued specialist), then the answer is you'll probably waste time.