Is fine-tuning the first successful argument for the existence of a god?

Is fine-tuning the first successful argument for the existence of a god?

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's so obviously stupid I gave up trying to explain why to anyonr who isn't already agnostic or atheist. Religious people are just too stupid to understand basic logic.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Can you explain it to me?

      If the proton mass had been different, then we could never have formed. What explains why the proton mass has that number? If it's that specific, isn't it suspicious?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You decide to play the lottery
        At random you pick a sequemce of numbers
        Did you win because you knew the numbers and are a God?
        Or was it chance?
        There was only one set of numbers you could pick. By the logic of fine tuning it is IMPOSSIBLE you picked them by chance. Therefpre every lottery winner can see the future lmao

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        airtight argument

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if you're the Master of Logic, without looking it up, recite De Morgan's identities of propositional calculus.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who fine tuned the israelite in the sky?

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >This is rather as if you imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, 'This is an interesting world I find myself in — an interesting hole I find myself in — fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!
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  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There is nothing finetuned about our heads exploding when we enter space

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, it gets BTFO by the anthropic principle

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The anthropic principle explains nothing. It's just a way of refusing to answer the question.

      'I must exist here because I'm here existing' does not explain why you are here.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It doesn't ezplain existence, it explains why the fine tuning argument is nonsense

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the purpose isn't answering why but to shut down any attempt at speculating on useless questions
        >What if the universe had such constants that prohibited life? Therefore God
        The anthropic principle renders this question the theological equivalent of the grandfather's paradox
        >What if you came back in time and killed your grandfather? oh you can't explain? Therefore multiverse
        You can't, there's no "what if", there's no fine tuning

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >main source of light also gives us cancer
    Finely tuned my ass

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No because there's nothing else to compare it to. Also which God? The Polynesian Tiki god?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It doesn't matter which God, it comes from the same Divine inspiration. God dwells within you by the way.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Then why should anyone convert?

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, physics likely work differently within singularities

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >if the rules of the universe were different then the end result would be different too
    >therefore GOD

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That picture is retarded. Why does it list forces? Those aren't constants. The author clearly didn't study physics.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No. Fine tuning ignores the survivorship bias

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Oh and by the way, when they are asked to say where do those immaterial formulas live and where they come from and how they act on matter, they can't fucking answer, can they?
    If the universe is uncaused then why does it have physical laws that it must follow? Clearly those laws are actually imposed on the universe.
    Ask an atheist how a photon, stemming from the annihilation of an electrons and a positron , knows that it has to follow Maxwell's rules, as soon as the photon comes into existence whereas what they call ''physical laws'' are not found inside their tiny particles (inside particles there are just other particles lmao who scripted this crap).... Just ask him. And I can tell you what you will observe, because it's true cause and effect: the atheist will be in his most vulnerable state, drymouthed, sweating profusely, hands trembling, in a state of intense anguish, because he knows he has no comeback. Zero. Jack shit. At this point in time, the atheist is consumed by a fear that is darker than the terror of death, which will never leave him until he dies.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You should start a cinema with all that projection

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