44 thoughts on “Is Arcteryx cringe now? What are some good looking alternatives? And Wander?

  1. Anonymous says:

    I’ve started buying tactical brands instead of outdoor brands. It’s the same stuff but higher quality and cheaper, often without any logos as well. Premium hunting brands are better than outdoor brands as well, but they’re usually more expensive. For the latter, I’m thinking more of stuff like Sitka and Kuiu than the stuff you can get at Wal-Mart.

  2. Anonymous says:

    I haven’t seen anyone shitting on Arcteryx, I have seen some hate about them moving all their production to China which does hecking suck. I had a friend who worked there and he’d set me up with their staff discount so my wardrobe is probably 40% Arcteryx I got for 60-70% off retail like 3 years ago.

    Overall I’m really happy with the quality and comfort and as an actual alpine climber the Alpha SV really does feel like an indestructible bunker against weather but I’ve only used it for two seasons.

    • Anonymous says:

      Would you happen to know if the Beta LT is suitable for light snow and, with layers to provide warmth, cold and wind? Temperatures of about 2 °C (35 °F) during the day to -4 °C (24 °F) at night. I’m not full on hiking or camping.

      • Anonymous says:

        It’s a shell, a really really good shell so expect waterproofing and windproofing but it provides 0 warmth which you seem to understand. The shells are good at literally any temp they’re exclusively for wind and rain protection. I’ve worn mine effectively in -20 degree blizzards and 60 degree rainstorms, it is good at weather protection at any temp.

        If you’re not climbing in it then just get the Beta, the Alpha SV is the most ‘heavy-duty’ but it’s got no convenient hand pockets because it’s designed for wear with a harness. If you are specifically looking for a city hardshell then yes get a Beta-LT, it’s really expensive but they’re fantastic and a lot of women recognize it as a status brand. I haven’t had any of the delamination issues people online complain about and I wear this shit harder than 95% of people who buy it.

        • Anonymous says:

          > and a lot of women recognize it as a status brand

          Agreed with everything else you said, but not sure about this. Only one woman has complimented me on my Arc jacket and she happened to have some Arc pieces herself. For the most part, it seems that men recognize the brand more than women.

      • Anonymous says:

        Depends on what you’re acclimatized to, beta should be fine with a warm mid/base but, if you’re worried about temp get an insulated one, i prefer the sabre to the beta here

        https://i.imgur.com/2U1Xsd7.png

        I’m a midwest Anon and I’ve legit never seen this brand outside of LULZ. All just Columbia, North Face, Carhartt, Adidas, hunting supply store stuff.

        yeah, it’s popular with coastal yuppies, film and art/design industry people.

        It’s a shell, a really really good shell so expect waterproofing and windproofing but it provides 0 warmth which you seem to understand. The shells are good at literally any temp they’re exclusively for wind and rain protection. I’ve worn mine effectively in -20 degree blizzards and 60 degree rainstorms, it is good at weather protection at any temp.

        If you’re not climbing in it then just get the Beta, the Alpha SV is the most ‘heavy-duty’ but it’s got no convenient hand pockets because it’s designed for wear with a harness. If you are specifically looking for a city hardshell then yes get a Beta-LT, it’s really expensive but they’re fantastic and a lot of women recognize it as a status brand. I haven’t had any of the delamination issues people online complain about and I wear this shit harder than 95% of people who buy it.

        delamination issues are literally made up cope by people who are mad about Arc Teryx’s brand positioning, i get it, arc is priced ridiculously high and absolutely not worth what amer sports wants for it, but that doesn’t mean the clothes suck or don’t perform or are falling apart lmfao

        yes its been cringe ever since it started getting made in china.
        >What are some good looking alternatives?
        real hikers wear cottage brand jackets now
        i like timmermade but they’re not too fashionable
        & for the fashionable stuff if you have to ask you cant afford it

        seattle native born&raised, highly accurate

        PNW natives are by and far the ugliest people in America, no wonder you have such stupid opinions

        I don’t understand, wasn’t Arcteryx always made in shitholes? I just checked my Arcteryx down jacket that’s 10+ years old and it’s made in Bangladesh. I would understand if they moved production from USA to China, but if it’s from shithole A to shithole B, why does it matter?

        it was, and now china actually has good manufacturing, especially with regard to synthetics and seam bonding. it’s super funny seeing people cry about the quality declining when they have no idea how to discern quality in the first place. For them, a jacket with 10,000 mm vs 28,000mm waterproofing is the same as a non-car enthusiast trying to discern the difference between 500 and 900bhp, it’s a total abstraction because they’re never actually in circumstances that require a meaningful distinction between the two.

        outdoors shit in the city is cringe and dead now in aw23. no one is doing it anymore

        actually it seems to have reached peak saturation, given that the we have dozens of brands doing highly conceptual clothing based on outdooring jackets and pants, you might wish for gorpcore to be dead and over, but the industry disagrees with you

        • Anonymous says:

          Coming from a really fat megacity in the south we only know of college aged people from Washington who are upper middle class and pale brunettes with curly hair, very pretty. Everyone where I’m from makes a big deal of lifting weights or is just fat as hell. No in between.

          North of Seattle everyone is in shape, well bred, very upper middle class physiognomy. South of Seattle everyone is an opiate addicted subhuman in a cigarette car with a mixed child out of wedlock and looks 20 years older than they are, still listening to pop punk. In Seattle it’s mostly people styling themselves in a sexless unattractive way for social status. Men in their late 20’s wearing sneakers and slim chinos, patchy beard doing nothing to hide their recessed chin. Women in their late 30’s without kids or husbands, dressed as Meiji Era Samurai in platform chelsea boots, black bobs, some upscale service industry or make-work job and as many plants as can fit in their studio apartment, still doing nothing to relieve their existential dread.

          I’d say southwesterners are probably the ugliest people I’ve seen on average but it could be environmental rather than a genetic predisposition to being meth addicts that are somehow still fat.

  3. Anonymous says:

    I’m a midwest Anon and I’ve legit never seen this brand outside of LULZ. All just Columbia, North Face, Carhartt, Adidas, hunting supply store stuff.

    • Anonymous says:

      i heard about it all the time in the outdoor gear circles even here in CA where you barely get any snow. I just think of it as an ultralight gear fad that has recently been bought out and about to see quality decline soon.

    • Anonymous says:

      My super bougie town only has 1 outdoor clothing store, and it only carries trendy higher end brands like Arcteryx, so you see old ladies on their morning gossip walks decked out in 2k worth of "made in Sweden". I’m in Canada though so it actually does get cold as heck.

    • Anonymous says:

      There’s this store called REI and it distributes these meme brands to people like Cotopaxi and Arc’teryx, drawstring shorts for $120, mostly. There’s also an Arc’teryx flagship not far from the REI flagship and I’ve never seen anyone but tourists from flyover country wear this; Fjalraven. The long green field jacket some light blue jeans and hiking boots or Chelsea boots with a beanie and a sweater that’s the we just got to Seattle uniform. Then there’s some trannies in vegan leather skirts, coke bottle glasses fogged up by their double masks, male fat distribution exploding out the bottom of their corsets, male feet barely contained by their Demonias. Asian tourists by the bus load, all in matching white Canada Down puffer parkas.

      • Anonymous says:

        yes its been cringe ever since it started getting made in china.
        >What are some good looking alternatives?
        real hikers wear cottage brand jackets now
        i like timmermade but they’re not too fashionable
        & for the fashionable stuff if you have to ask you cant afford it

        seattle native born&raised, highly accurate

        • Anonymous says:

          I don’t understand, wasn’t Arcteryx always made in shitholes? I just checked my Arcteryx down jacket that’s 10+ years old and it’s made in Bangladesh. I would understand if they moved production from USA to China, but if it’s from shithole A to shithole B, why does it matter?

      • Anonymous says:

        you see arcteryx all the time in bellevue, redmond, issaquah, sammamish etc where the tech bros are.
        its extremely normie core now. but only in the rich areas. mostly the white geeks wearing it but some morons too.

        • Anonymous says:

          they’re overpriced and hipstery but i like that they’re the only major brand making non synthetic rain gear still.

          Depends on what you’re acclimatized to, beta should be fine with a warm mid/base but, if you’re worried about temp get an insulated one, i prefer the sabre to the beta here
          […]
          yeah, it’s popular with coastal yuppies, film and art/design industry people.
          […]
          delamination issues are literally made up cope by people who are mad about Arc Teryx’s brand positioning, i get it, arc is priced ridiculously high and absolutely not worth what amer sports wants for it, but that doesn’t mean the clothes suck or don’t perform or are falling apart lmfao
          […]
          PNW natives are by and far the ugliest people in America, no wonder you have such stupid opinions
          […]
          it was, and now china actually has good manufacturing, especially with regard to synthetics and seam bonding. it’s super funny seeing people cry about the quality declining when they have no idea how to discern quality in the first place. For them, a jacket with 10,000 mm vs 28,000mm waterproofing is the same as a non-car enthusiast trying to discern the difference between 500 and 900bhp, it’s a total abstraction because they’re never actually in circumstances that require a meaningful distinction between the two.
          […]
          actually it seems to have reached peak saturation, given that the we have dozens of brands doing highly conceptual clothing based on outdooring jackets and pants, you might wish for gorpcore to be dead and over, but the industry disagrees with you

          i’m incredibly handsome and lol if you’re still wearing arcteryx in 2023 like my mom.
          > For them, a jacket with 10,000 mm vs 28,000mm waterproofing is the same as a non-car enthusiast trying to discern the difference between 500 and 900bhp
          the jacket i posted is more waterproof than anything arcteryx sells actually.

          what tactical gear with best quality per price ratio do you recommend?

          you’re not going to get good quality gear cheap unless its used or milsurp.

    • Anonymous says:

      I’m a southerner and I have only seen one person irl wear it and he was from up north. I’ve two pieces, one was a t shirt and one was a light hooded pullover. It’s mainly North Face and Patagonia here.

  4. Anonymous says:

    Gorpcore came around because of the resurgence of fleece jackets (partly because of Shia’s influence), and it was a trend taken too far.

    No one actually thinks these jackets look cool, they just look "different" (no longer true).

    Trends that don’t actually make people look good (emphasize a nice body) have an expiration date.

  5. Anonymous says:

    I used some of my Biden bux a few years ago to get a nice Arcteryx jacket. I don’t snowboard or skie, but I like wearing it when it’s snowing hardcore here in MN

  6. Anonymous says:

    If you want the best performing cold weather gear and budget isn’t a concern I’d always go with Carinthia. I have tried most of the popular/known brands at one point or another and Carinthia has satisfied me the most.

  7. Anonymous says:

    My buddy got his Alpha replaced for free after an armpit rip and he bought it for 12 bucks at Goodwill. I get free repairs on my 13 year old Khuno parka cause I live near a service center. tl;dr if you can get their outerwear for cheap it’s worth it cause you get good support from them to make it last a while

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