Is Africa's tribal culture the main reason for their underdevelopment? How could it be solved without erasing the cultural differences of the continent?
Is Africa's tribal culture the main reason for their underdevelopment?
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nation building takes a lot of time and bloodshed, give it time
What if they aren’t willing to undergo the time and bloodshed.
As in what? A lot of "nation building" in other modern states often times wasn't complete and/or still has caveats to it.
The strongest economies in the world were built on hardship that makes savannah tribal life look luxurious.
How does that relate to
>wasn't complete and/or still has caveats to it.?
No mention of hardship was mentioned.
Yes hardship was mentioned in the first two posts.
If Africans do not see fit to participate in activities which have a 40% mortality rate like Whites and East Asians did, they will not reap the benefits of such activities, furthermore if they are handed such things, they will inevitably break down and they will be unable to repair them.
>NOOOOO EVOLUTION ABOVE THE NECK DOESNT HAPPEN
listen buck, blacks have agency. They are perfectly within their own prerogative to say civilization and leftism suck ass and the human cost is too great.
>NOOOOO WHITEY WILL MAKE FUN OF US FOR BEING LE MUDHUT
jokes on Whitey. If Whitey had some mud hut tribals maybe he’d find the balls to wreck the people who are wrecking him.
what a retarded post, do you really imagine, that the few minutes of human existence whites have been on top makes them superior. Does working in a cube all day make them happier? more fulfilled?
killing the fathers and teaching the sons
Madagascar was never culturally African
Yeah, it's both Austronesian and Bantu African.
No it was mostly isolation from the rest of the world through jungles, deserts, swamps etc. followed by a preserevation of extractive institutions (while they were being removed elsewhere) during the colonial period.
nation building is a mix of carefully applied dividing lines
for example you have a bunch of neighboring tribes cooperate on some economic project, but you don't try to get them to kiss, so to speak, you draw a thick line around them and thin lines between them
Sometimes I wonder if africa would have turned out differently if a part of eritrea read "italian" and not tigrayan.
Adressing your main point. Sorry for the detour.
Fair enough but to be fair running a multi ethnic country (with actual deepset differences) is very hard if there is no overwehlming central ethnic group. Per example. I think russian multiculturalism works because most places in russia are full of russians. Even the ethnic republics.
Same for china theres 785562 han for every manchu/mongol/tibetan. Or even the UK.
>Sometimes I wonder if africa would have turned out differently if a part of eritrea read "italian" and not tigrayan.
The dysfunctions would stay the same. Colonial Eritrea was pretty dysfunctional at it's core due to incompetency form the metropole and the colonial admins basically having a harder time managing Italians (not the natives) for most of it's history.
Africa's problem is that there's not very many places that are conductive to civilization. Tribalism can be easily overcome if there's a sustained force for integration and conformity among people, but there was no such force on most of the continent, and it was weak where it did exist.
A big reason the tribalism is so fucked in Africa is that the inhabited parts of Africa are made up of thousands and thousands of microbiomes, cultures adapt to the environmental conditions around them and differing environments require different lifestyles which has constantly led to conflict throughout history and across the world - farmers vs herders, mountain dwellers vs lowlanders, maritime vs inland, it's a ubiquitous source of conflict on every continent. It is even worse in Africa because of the North-South orientation of the continent, Africa crosses many lines of latitude and as such has many, many biome transitions. Add in parasites that evolved alongside humans discouraging high density living before modern medicine and infrastructure and the continent is just fucked for getting big civilizations going.
People need to stop trying to "fix" Africa and just let them figure it out, eventually history and natural selection will do its thing just like it has everywhere else.
>People need to stop trying to "fix" Africa
That basically ends up with some guy flying in, coming in with a "plan" but said plan doesn't work out like it did in his head so they just bounce and either:
>pat themselves on the back fora job not done and call ita success
>Blame others for the issue or just half ass it.
>Find a way to make moeny before bouncing
Also doesn't help when many aid is tied to some bs requirement that doesn't make sense or has an agenda behind it. African countries with less immigrants in Europe get less aid then those that do because current aid is about "border control".
Invisible Children, Inc. and it's "Kony 2012" shit is the most blatant example of this.
That might have worked in the 1500s. But in an age where the littlest thing can cause a huge refugee crisis, This would be beyond retarded.
Who are you calling underdeveloped? What makes Africa undeveloped while Europe is developed? Development is subjective. Europe might be more developed in their cities, but Africa is developed where it really counts. And your women understand that as well.
It's weird you are trying to put war's with high ass death tolls on a pedestal.
It's not big deal. Things shift and change. Now markets are more expanded and there's more clients to market them towards as well as hire.
It’s a symptom.
What a bullshit and incorrect map. Did they just confuse tribes/clans with ethnic groups? Or is it a deliberately exaggerated attempt to prove how much Europeans grouped disparate and unrelated peoples into artificial countries?
I think its based on tribal/regional groups that sometimes coincides with ethnicity and sometimes not. Thats why groups like the somalis, tuaregs and arabs are split up
This meme is overplayed. Everyone had tribes (or clans, the word for tribalism when Europeans do it) not that long ago.
It is true that Africans were pretty well, uncivilized, to put it bluntly and that their primeval isolation meant that the process of forming larger policies was barely started if at all at the time they were colonised by Europeans.
But really, this problem such as it is solves itself, the same way it did in Europe and elsewhere. Improved transport and communications means tribal borders and identities break down, as what /misc/ called "globohomo" does its corrosive work.
Go to the average major African city like Johannesburg or Nairobi and you'll discover that tribal backgrounds are rapidly becoming a mere curiosity, certainly compared to how seriously they were taken in the past.
I mean think about it, back in the 1970s, the South African police actually had to devote police resources to investigate absurdly large-scale tribal faction-fights between Zulu clans who would send fighters literally hundreds of miles to assassinate rivals over "trivial" revenge tit-for-tat bullshit. And at the same time, relations between Zulus and other groups were so bad that a very large plurality of Zulu youths were satisfied with their king being allied with the white minority Nationalist government as long as it staved off domination by non-Zulu rival blacks.
That's not to say tribal feelings are completely gone, but compared to the way it used to be they've definitely faded into the background. Give it 50 years, and African national identities will be much more secure.
>process of forming larger polities*
No, it's because there's not much reforms focused on the economy and even then, it's barely noticeable for the average person.
Give it time and their tribal identities will be replaced by whatever country they're born in, that's how it goes