296 thoughts on “Iron Heart

  1. Anonymous says:

    Does the waist of (one-wash) IH jeans stretch after first wash. I have a pair kinda tight expecting it to stretch because that’s what I was told and they never did. Haven’t washed yet though, and haven’t worn too much because middle of summer in Aus

    • Anonymous says:

      Yeah, they should. Despite Iron Heart having tight weaves, their denim is surprisingly stretchy (with the exception of their 25 oz). The majority of their denim is sanforized and you should expect little to no shrinkage assuming that you are doing cold wash, hang dry, and not putting it in the dryer. I have 4 pairs of their jeans and despite there being a tiny amount of shrinkage with each wash, the jeans always stretch back out once I wear them around for the first day. You can always just do some body weight squats in them once theyre done hang drying if you want to speed up the stretching

  2. Anonymous says:

    Wearing through my 25 oz 888 jeans this last year. These are finally starting to drape and soften to my liking, but my god it has taken a long time. I would definitely not recommend going this heavy, the 21 oz is perfect in comparison

  3. Anonymous says:

    >$400 jeans
    >2011 + 13
    Are you boomers also still rocking hitler youths and buddy holly glasses? Aren’t you embarrassed?

  4. Anonymous says:

    Wanna get on the IH hype train but their jean cuts don’t work for me. Currently waiting for a restock of their 19oz OD type 3. There’s a 14oz available but I wasn’t impressed by their lighter denim when I handled it at a stocklist

    • Anonymous says:

      Have you tried all of their cuts? Also, I own their 22 oz overdyed type 3. The aging on the overdyed denim is really beautiful

      • Anonymous says:

        Based on posted measurements, the 888 and 1955 are the only cuts that’d work for me. I tried the 888 and it was a letdown. On paper they should have worked but the leg was restrictive and tight while the seat and waist were too loose. And the back pocket placement was egregiously bad. Fortunately I managed to re-sell them and recoup most of what I payed. The 1955 look promising, but they’ve been out of stock for a minute.
        And yeah, the way the OD ages is what’s drawing me to an IH type 3 over their competitors

        • Anonymous says:

          I know what you mean. Fortunately my thighs are perfectly sized to fit into their 888, but they’re definitely more slim than you would expect for a straight leg jean. If you can manage to fit into a mid rise jean, I would actually suggest the Samurai s510xx. Based on my experience The thighs have a tiny more room than IH, my pair is actually the best fitting jeans I own. If you need a high rise, maybe the sugar cane 1947 jeans would be best. I’m pretty sure that Self Edge just restocked them

          • Anonymous says:

            Ngl lately the only jeans I’ve been wearing have been Wranglers. I have about a grand of selvedge (including SC1947s which do fit pretty good) just sitting there cause nothing else feels as comfortable or makes my ass look as good as 13MWZs.

            imagine spending 400 bucks on jeans
            i’ll stick with my bravestar and hiroshi kato thanks

            Imagine being offended by how other people spend their money

          • Anonymous says:

            My 13mwz’s were $30 and fit better than my iron heart 777’s. I wish more jeans had a 12 – 13 inch front rise.

          • Anonymous says:

            its because fit is everything. its far from the ONLY factor, but its the BIGGEST factor in aesthetic, comfort, and long term durability.
            if 13mwz works better for your body it doesn’t matter if the iron hearts are made of 5,000x nicer fabric and constructed much better. its just a better cut for you.

        • Anonymous says:

          sometimes a brand’s cuts just work for you or don’t. fit is everything with denim especially pants. the best investment you can possibly make in raw denim is find an excuse to travel to japan or one of the north america retailers like selfedge/blueowl/etc and try shit on. if you’re ever vaguely in proximity of one of those stores its worth the detour to instantly know what brands do and don’t work for you, they’re all the type of stores that won’t bat an eye at someone wanting to try shit on for 4 hours then buy 0-1 pairs. they want you to take your time and get a perfect fit they’re all nerds. theres some denim brands that for me will always be something i wank to pics of online or keep in my rolodex of recommendations because i know they don’t look great on me and some brands i’ll always have in rotation simply because their cuts fit me like a glove.

    • Anonymous says:

      Bravestar look hecking gay. When you buy IH, you’re buying a perfected design and aesthetic. Its like the equivalent of buying an actual Gibson Custom Shop instead of some standard production line Epiphone

          • Anonymous says:

            I don’t really understand the point of hollowbodies that aren’t true archtops with a floating bridge but that’s perfectly okay

          • Anonymous says:

            Semihollow bodies are a great balanced sound. Want a warm, airy, woody jazz tone? Switch to the neck pickup. Want searing, saturated leads? Switch to the bridge pickup and lay down some overdrive. The humbuckers really give a great saturated overdrive tone. Overall, an es-335 is one of the most versatile guitars you can play

          • Anonymous says:

            Anon you don’t believe in tonewood in an electric guitar do you? The sound all comes from the pickups, scale length, and bridge. A true archtop sounds very different from a tune-o-matic and sounds good unplugged. I regret the heck out of not buying one of those epiphone archtops they had for a good price like 3 years ago.

          • Anonymous says:

            That’s all good, but in reality I’m playing jazz fusion, blues, mathrock, prog, and emo. Tone wood does not have (if any) much effect on a guitar’s sound. An es-335 ticks all the boxes I’m looking for. Archtops sound great, but they are one trick ponies and are good only for jazz and maybe some country. You aren’t going to get good fretboard radius and controllable saturated overdrive tones with an arch top. My next purchase will be either a custom shop telecaster, or a Castedosa with jazzmaster pickups

          • Anonymous says:

            I just have a jazzmaster, a strat, and a el-00 parlour. I never even play electric anymore and would like an archtop to play more old school fingerstyle singers and standards like itso. He usually plays on an archtop or classical. That’s why I said it’s a fine style choice just not for me. If I wanted some f holes I would want to go all the way into the pool and just play jazz and singer standard arrangements on it.

          • Anonymous says:

            I like this guy. His travis picking and fingerstyle in general are great and he has plenty of swing standards and ragtime on there. Old progressions and voice leading are amazing. Tweedle deeing over a 4 chords without as well composed a melody may be one of the worst things rock did to popular music.

      • Anonymous says:

        >Bravestar look hecking gay.
        no u
        also kek this is autism incarnate
        bet you look killer in front of your full body mirror m8

    • Anonymous says:

      I had a jacket from Bravestar when I first started getting into selvedge. It just wasn’t the same. The fit was off, shoulders too wide, too boxy, etc. And the worst part is the buttons weren’t lined up so the jacket wouldn’t button up. I had to remove the button and replace it with one I got from the store that didn’t match
      it’s the little stuff like that. how the heck does misaligned buttons pass QC?
      by Pure Blue Japan jacket is 400 (but I got it for way less on a black friday sale, shit was so cash) and it is absolutely flawless. you can just feel it and tell it’s better made

    • Anonymous says:

      Nice creases. I’ve been using my wabash shirt for work for the last year during the winter months and I have to say that it is seriously the slowest fading denim I’ve ever worn. My hecking 25 oz 888 jeans fade faster

  5. Anonymous says:

    paying this much to look like you don’t know to dress yourself is a weird flex.
    work wear is supposed to be cheap and forgettable, emphasis on cheap.

    just wear vintage wrangler and woolrich/eddie bauer/ll bean, literally the same thing.

    • Anonymous says:

      You’re stupid. People aren’t buying high end denim or workwear because they want to look cheap. They buy it because they have an appreciation for the higher attention to detail with regards to build quality, QC, and denim texture and aging characteristics. People ultimately prefer something that is made objectively better and ages better. It just so happens to cost more because there is more hand labor and nuanced skill that goes into making stuff like this compared to a mass produced pair of wranglers or levis. No disrespect to wrangler, but you really are just making shit up in your head. If you don’t want to buy this shit, thats completely fine

          • Anonymous says:

            hiroshi kato >>>> iron heart or whatever overpriced hipster trash you buy
            also i’m white collar b***h put some respect on my salary i worked all of 1800 hours last year

          • Anonymous says:

            moron you can’t even compare those two companies. Iron heart focuses almost exclusively on heavy weight, robust denim, whereas Hiroshi Kato is lightweight denim. The fabrics look completely different and they are both entirely different universes of aging characteristics. Lightweight denim is not my thing

          • Anonymous says:

            lightweight denim can actually age really beautifully… if you wear them skin tight.
            i use the 8.5oz n&fs as long johns to make my jeans a bit warmer in the winter.

          • Anonymous says:

            We are not the same. I only wear classic straight and straight tapered cuts. Also, arguing that Iron Heart is overpriced while paying $230+ for a pair of 12.5 oz denim that looks like a pair of H&M jeans is quite ironic

          • Anonymous says:

            no one works in 400 dollar jeans.
            youre not squatting and kneeling and painting in these jeans.
            you’re not tracking elk, you’re not cattle rustling.
            you’re this guy

            https://i.imgur.com/VtjNuVh.jpg

            you’re all this egg-shaped guy.

          • Anonymous says:

            you’re just some softskin with working class pretensions, it’s pathetic.
            a bespoke dress shirt at least has an air of sophistication and original thought put into it, but paying so much to dress down will never not be hecking silly.

          • Anonymous says:

            You have no idea what you’re talking about and are a filthy poor. Pick up some more walmart shifts and maybe one day you can enjoy some quality clothing as well

    • Anonymous says:

      to be fair even if you use official inflation figures (lol) 300 bux for a pair of jeans is pretty in line with what people used to pay pre war.

      • Anonymous says:

        Not just that, but a pair of Samurais, Iron Hearts, or Momotaros are arguably made even better than jeans during those times

        • Anonymous says:

          back then it was all like 6-12oz fabrics too.
          1.5x the cost for fabrics twice the thickness that would have been considered a technological marvel back then is pretty fair all things considered i think you get a really good value in japanese denim. just not the poorgay kind of scarcity mentality value. if you want the best shit for your dollar you wont beat jap denim except for jap denim imported then sewn in north america and thats only because of really unfair trade agreements we have with the japanese garment industry.

  6. Anonymous says:

    For years I’ve purchased Iron heart products from the Global Rakuten website. They have now banned Japanese Retailers from selling online or overseas. Before, you were able to pay the prices that were PRINTED on the actual tags. Now the only way to buy their products outside of Japanese Retail is to pay the completely jacked prices set by the Iron heart UK people. I understand Engineered Garments and other high end brands restricting selling online and sales, but Iron Heart still allows sales online. Am I missing something or is this just another middleman getting his payday? Don’t get me wrong, Iron Heart UK has great customer service, but is it worth paying almost double the price for it?
    This is from one of the retailers emails a few weeks ago.
    "IRON HEART’S SALE ENDS According to the policy of IRON HEART, IRON HEART’s products will be impossible to sell on the website from April 2017. From April 2017, If you have something you would like to purchase with IRON HEART’s items, please send an e-mail to us. We do apologize for this inconvenience. I hope you will understand."

  7. Anonymous says:

    […]

    I met this guy randomly at Self Edge in Portland. He walked in with his wife and we chatted for like 20 minutes. Real genuine guy

    • Anonymous says:

      I like that he has gone unhinged since covid and getting fired and now posts things like improvised foot spikes coated in his poo and anti israel videos all the time

        • Anonymous says:

          Yes. Unfortunately it’s already over. The boomers and great generation sold us out for social security paychecks in 1965 when the hebrews passed the white replacement act and actively sought to sew disunity for the sake of a cushy retirement built on slave labor for themselves. Then when we went off the gold standard shit really went hecking south with 40 years of nearly 0% interest rates leading to $243,000 being the average cost of a 1500sqft starter home in the US while the median income is $40,000. In 1933 when FDR stole every americans gold you could have gad $200 in $2.50 liberty gold coins. This would be worth $24,000 today. The cpi number for inflation from 1933 to now is that $200 is equal to about $5000. What a crock of shit. The real inflation since then according to gold is 12,000% and their bullshit number is 2,500%. Not even to mention the $14,000,000,000,000 they printed over a literal cold and handed out as corporate welfare. I hate the antichrist.

      • Anonymous says:

        He’s based. “Simps and modern whores will be accounted by historians as the reason for the downfall of western civilization”. His iconic quote lol

  8. Anonymous says:

    How much do the 21oz OD stretch with wear and are they pliable? Like if the thigh is <0.5" less then ideal, but the next size up would be 1.5" too big in the waist, can I pry at it to loosen it up a bit or are they the kind of super tight weave that doesn’t give at all?

    • Anonymous says:

      They are surprisingly stretchy from my experience wearing in a pair of 21 oz OD 888, and a regular indigo pair of 21 oz 888. That being said, if you have large thighs, iron heart’s straight leg thigh dimensions aren’t really that big and they unfortunately don’t have a wide/relaxed straight fit. If you have large thighs, I wouldn’t suggest getting a pair of jeans that are going to be stretching the thighs, especially if the waist dimension is already going to be way too big on you. I love IH, but I really don’t understand why they can’t just make some cuts with thighs that are like 0.5” larger than what they’re currently doing

      • Anonymous says:

        Well I already put in the hemming request so yolo. Based on how they measure, the thighs on the pair they pulled are only 0.2in smaller than my broken in cowboy cuts so I’m hoping with a bit of leverage I can squeeze a few more fractions of an inch out of them

        I’m also switching to much lower volume on lower body because pants shopping is a nightmare

  9. Anonymous says:

    I don’t know how people wear this stuff. I tried one a few pairs at a shop and afterward putting my chinos back on felt so good it was wearing silk.

  10. Anonymous says:

    Anybody have experience with Iron Heart’s 19 oz left hand? I have their 22 oz overdyed type III and as much as I love it, its way too thick and rigid even after 2 years of consistent wear. I’m wondering if the 19 oz will be better, or if it will still be rigid as heck because of its tighter weave

    • Anonymous says:

      I have the 19LHT and it is extremely stiff. It feels almost as stiff as my 25oz jeans, I guess from the tightness of the weave.

      Love it for it though. It feels like wearing armor.

  11. Anonymous says:

    why the heck did they make the type 3 so long? Holy shit the leather is so stiff that you can’t even button it. I think I’m just gonna get a custom aero

          • Anonymous says:

            This
            […]
            But also this

            Can someone please explain all the hate toward vans old skoolz? They seem to me to be just as versatile as chuck taylors

          • Anonymous says:

            we don’t wear converse all stars either. I’m so hecking sick of seeing vans though. It’s been like 15 years nonstop of these shitty hecking shoes

          • Anonymous says:

            >They seem to me to be just as versatile as chuck taylor

            Yes. Which is not at all.

            Okay that’s not really providing any insight though. There’s a reason why vans and converse have been around for many decades. They’re synonymous with American casual fashion, they are destined to be paired with denim. All you guys are really saying is:
            >they suck because they suck
            Okay, why though? I’ve actually only ever been complemented on my choice of vans and converse, so it seems pretty obvious that all the hate is fabricated on this board and this board only

          • Anonymous says:

            https://i.imgur.com/hJ7Jd9I.png

            Yeah, I get that you don’t want to support a company that promotes degeneracy. However, what specifically is bad or unfashionable about a standard black and white pair of converse or vans old skoolz? Im not even going to deny that they are made like shit, but purely in terms of fashion, what is all the hate about?

          • Anonymous says:

            you can’t divorce fashion from culture.
            they’re vocally unfashionable here because its fashionable to be vocally anti-trans on LULZ.
            it doesn’t mean no one here wears them, only that there will be chuds shitting on them.

          • Anonymous says:

            like everything current LULZ hates, they’ve fallen on the other side of the culture war.
            has nothing to do with the actual product, only the politics.

          • Anonymous says:

            Okay that’s kind of what I’ve been realizing, it’s about nothing more than politic. That’s all fine, I understand why people wouldn’t want to support companies that promote that shit, but we aren’t talking about why the specific company sucks. We are talking about the shoes themselves. Even speaking as a leather boot collector, I really like the timeless aesthetic that vans and converse have. I’ll probably end up getting a pair of converse inspired shoes from a Japanese company that doesn’t heck around with the LGBTQ bullshit. Moonstar or Shoes Like Pottery for example

          • Anonymous says:

            vans fall apart fast and look childish.

            Okay that’s kind of what I’ve been realizing, it’s about nothing more than politic. That’s all fine, I understand why people wouldn’t want to support companies that promote that shit, but we aren’t talking about why the specific company sucks. We are talking about the shoes themselves. Even speaking as a leather boot collector, I really like the timeless aesthetic that vans and converse have. I’ll probably end up getting a pair of converse inspired shoes from a Japanese company that doesn’t heck around with the LGBTQ bullshit. Moonstar or Shoes Like Pottery for example

            i can get better sneakers without my money going to supporting child sex grooming.

          • Anonymous says:

            I mean functionally they are absolute shit. They are flat soled, poorly constructed, heel bruisers. And they’re ugly.

          • Anonymous says:

            >uncomfortable, no arch support
            >going with heavy denim in the uppers and legs and then thin canvas for feet? not coherent at all

          • Anonymous says:

            canvas and denim are literally both woven cotton workcloth, gay.
            not coherent?
            if you ignore the last 80 years of casual American fashion lol

            what a reach.

          • Anonymous says:

            Vans are literally knockoff keds. Keds invented the shitty canvas sneaker in like 1920, like 50 years after jeans were invented. And they were made/marketed as a sports shoe not a workwear. Vans were a knockoff of keds and became popular because poorgay skateboarders who couldn’t afford keds wore them. They have hecking nothing to do with jeans or workwear.

          • Anonymous says:

            invented at different times but plimsoll sneakers and jeans both found their way out of their niche use cases and became general fashion items in the 1950s after world war 2. you see a lot of photos of jeans with keds in the 50s but its mostly women and teenagers you see pictured in them. partly because denim’s fist foray outside of workwear was biker attire and bikers wear boots.

          • Anonymous says:

            they’re not paired with anything else but jeans and cotton shorts, the heck are you even shitting out of your stupid mouth?

            don’t even hecking respond.

          • Anonymous says:

            >paired with
            Anon I would rather wear these hemp toe shoes than a pair of vans. And in fact, I have worn through one pair and have a second one. Because at least they have a stated purpose for existing. Vans have no reason to exist. They do what many other brands of shoe do only more poorly. They are shitty. They are boring. They have no reason to exist. They should not exist.

          • Anonymous says:

            invented at different times but plimsoll sneakers and jeans both found their way out of their niche use cases and became general fashion items in the 1950s after world war 2. you see a lot of photos of jeans with keds in the 50s but its mostly women and teenagers you see pictured in them. partly because denim’s fist foray outside of workwear was biker attire and bikers wear boots.

            fun fact after world war 2 people started realizing normal ass pairs of plimsoll sneakers like keds were better for extreme mountain climbing than the old school hobnail boots everyone was using pre war and all the mountaineering records shot up by like 30% altitude immediately.

          • Anonymous says:

            […]
            Okay that’s not really providing any insight though. There’s a reason why vans and converse have been around for many decades. They’re synonymous with American casual fashion, they are destined to be paired with denim. All you guys are really saying is:
            >they suck because they suck
            Okay, why though? I’ve actually only ever been complemented on my choice of vans and converse, so it seems pretty obvious that all the hate is fabricated on this board and this board only

            nothing wrong with canvas sneakers.
            but why chucks? they’re glued together with a fake vulc sole and your money goes to nike.
            i’d rather spend twice as much and get
            – way better canvas
            – actual vulcanized sole not a fake glued one
            – not made with child slave labor
            – my money goes to some japanese dorks not to a soulless megacorp hiring Black models and grooming school kids with gayry

          • Anonymous says:

            I was considering either going with some Shoes Like Pottery, or those new Moonstar high tops that just dropped. I love the look of Chucks, but yeah you’re right, the construction of their soles is quite laughable. Better to get an actual volcanized sole and durable canvas uppers

          • Anonymous says:

            the ones i posted earlier too (doek) are great if you want something that looks like vans but with an immense quality jump.

        • Anonymous says:

          Nice fit, I like it. Also vans and chucks work perfectly with denim. I don’t care about a brands "politics" because their real politics are making money. They might be currently supporting whatever they think will net them points with consumer, but as soon as the trends change they’ll change their tune.
          Brands that had existed for long enough released ads decades ago that would get them cancelled these days. But that’s what was popular at the time.

        • Anonymous says:

          Why would you spend so much on your jeans and jacket and barely anything on shoes? This is like wearing a tailored suit with sketchers

          • Anonymous says:

            Beaters are your old pair of shoes that you don’t take care of anymore. This implies you have yet another pair of vans that are new.

          • Anonymous says:

            Same anon here. I have a collection of higher end leather boots (John Lofgren, Whites, Role Club engineers) but sometimes there are fits that just look good with sneakers. I’m not arguing that vans or converse are objectively good shoes, but to me they feel good to wear sometimes and despite what your own personal taste may be, the majority of people in the world agree that a pair of vans old skoolz pair very well with jeans

          • Anonymous says:

            Lol, what is your point? Saying, “majority of people” is not black and white. It’s just saying that it’s the majority of people

          • Anonymous says:

            >the majority of people in the world agree

            Sounded reasonable until this

            Anon should have known that he’s talking to a forum of insufferable gays with antisocial personality disorders

          • Anonymous says:

            Your narcissism is insane. You literally cannot comprehend affability and a strong sense of identity coexisting.

          • Anonymous says:

            Wow, thanks Freud. That was so enlightening. I bet you get massive amounts of pussy while flexing your gay little reverse psychology comebacks

          • Anonymous says:

            >I bet you get massive amounts of pussy while flexing your gay little reverse psychology comebacks

            Only if I’m wearing my vans

          • Anonymous says:

            I do this because I dont like boots or formal shoes, or sports shoes and every other sneaker I have tried is the same or worse quality as bangladesh converse. its sad.
            I dont like the idea of paying a lot for something and its no different than changledesh slave labor.
            This has not been my experience with nice jeans, jackets or shirts. Only with shoes.

          • Anonymous says:

            this + same.
            >and every other sneaker I have tried is the same or worse quality as bangladesh converse
            common projects/clones + gat repros actually have a very good cost to quality ratio and are normal sneakers. the problem is common projects are boring+autism and gats are 1 sneaker.
            if you’re big money balling check out hender scheme it sounds right up your alley. thats what i used to wear but i no longer have a lifestyle that affords me making poor financial decisions like wearing $1000 sneakers as beaters.

    • Anonymous says:

      i have a love hate relationship with handwarmer pockets on type 3’s (love having them but love how it looks without them) but this pulls it off

      • Anonymous says:

        I can’t wear any kind of jacket without side pockets. I do agree that they kinda heck the aesthetics of type 3s, nevertheless. The solution, and I don’t know why it’s not the default option, is to hide the handwarmer pockets in the front seams.

      • Anonymous says:

        My first IH type III was a traditional one without the handwarmer pockets. I highly prefer the modified jackets with the pockets. You not only have pockets, but the body is just an extra inch in length which in my opinion is better since it covers most of the bottom of the flannel or hoodie if you decide to wear layering underneath. A traditional type III is just too short for my taste, I hate it when the bottom of my flannels end up hanging too low below the jacket’s waist.

        • Anonymous says:

          Total opposite here. I hate IH type 3s for how long they are. Totally ruins the proportions of an outfit when what should be a cropped jacket is hanging down over your ass

  12. Anonymous says:

    […]

    Vans are literally knockoff keds. Keds invented the shitty canvas sneaker in like 1920, like 50 years after jeans were invented. And they were made/marketed as a sports shoe not a workwear. Vans were a knockoff of keds and became popular because poorgay skateboarders who couldn’t afford keds wore them. They have hecking nothing to do with jeans or workwear.

  13. Anonymous says:

    […]

    nobody thins you’re a woman despite you removing your penis surgically, but the doctors enjoyed the money they made from you

  14. Anonymous says:

    Back on topic heckers.

    21oz OD 888s just arrived. I’ve tried 888s before (14oz OD and 21oz non-fade black) and been underwhelmed. The cut wasn’t my favorite and the fabric felt unnecessary restrictive right out of the box in both cases. But everyone online said to try the 21oz OD or 21oz indigo to get what all the hype was about. "feel like sweatpants" and all that shit. Being a Wrangler Chad I understand the difference a good weave makes so when I saw the 888s restocked I grabbed a pair.

    And I don’t hate them. They were skin tight in the thigh when I put them on but have already loosened as I’m typing this out and have some nice natural give. I still hate the back pockets, but Wrangler has ruined me there so it’s to be expected

    • Anonymous says:

      The 21 oz 888 overdyed jeans were my first pair of IH I bought 2 years ago. The denim is very sexy, you get that beautiful indigo-gray color when it fades in. I know what you mean about the tightness in the thigh though. IH’s straight fit is certainly slightly slim in the thigh, but if you’re coming from wranglers then that shouldn’t be too much of a difference. Their 21 oz is personally my all time favorite denim I’ve ever worn. It has that beautiful clean weave texture, and it softens up very nicely while being heavy at the same time

      • Anonymous says:

        I was looking at the 634 as well, but 888 won out for having more room in the hips and seat along with a higher rise.

        I’m interested to try the 1955 straight if it ever restocks tho

        • Anonymous says:

          I had a pair of the 634. The thighs with the 888 are slightly tight for me too (not skin tight, about an inch or so of give), but the silhouette of the 634 just isn’t as good. Since the thighs between both jeans are around the same size, the 634 looks a little more feminine if your thighs are big, whereas the 888 silhouette looks a little more athletic. I would also love to get a pair of 1955, but for some reason they are not releasing them for a long time. I really don’t understand why IH doesn’t just make a hecking wide/relaxed straight leg jean instead of just capping it out at the “classic straight” 1960s Levi’s inspired cut

          • Anonymous says:

            1. It’s a western only release
            2. It sells poorly due to the prevalence of slim fits
            3. There are currently plans to restock it
            4. All of this information is publicly available on the Iron Heart forum
            5. It’s time to stop posting

          • Anonymous says:

            Sounds like you browse the IH forum daily

            there’s approx 100% chance i would have bought a pair of jeans from iron heart by now if they did more relaxed/straight. i’m a very skinny guy but when i think iron heart i think heavy rugged denim and when i think heavy rugged denim i’m not thinking about adding slim/skinny cut #342923498 to my collection. i prefer my skinny jeans to be like 17oz max.

            I mean, it’s not like their straight cuts are slim fit. The thigh dimension for a size 34 on their 888 is like 13.3”, but they could definitely add another 0.3” to their thighs. It’s not really a dealbreaker for me though. The 888 is still such a great silhouette and imo they are the best looking straight cuts to pair with some engineers boots

          • Anonymous says:

            there’s approx 100% chance i would have bought a pair of jeans from iron heart by now if they did more relaxed/straight. i’m a very skinny guy but when i think iron heart i think heavy rugged denim and when i think heavy rugged denim i’m not thinking about adding slim/skinny cut #342923498 to my collection. i prefer my skinny jeans to be like 17oz max.

          • Anonymous says:

            If you’re very skinny then 634 or 888 might be a regular or loose fit on your body. Where the slimness becomes a problem is when you lift and have bigger thighs with a smaller waist. 13" thighs aren’t that big on a waist that measures 33". And you also have to take into account hamstring thickness which tends to make the mid and low thigh too tight on tapered cuts.

            […]
            I spend too much time on this board. I recognize that guy. Or maybe there’s like a dozen posters here tops.

            Yes it’s me and yes there are probably a dozen regular at this point

    • Anonymous says:

      https://i.imgur.com/GHv59fc.jpg

      I spend too much time on this board. I recognize that guy. Or maybe there’s like a dozen posters here tops.

  15. Anonymous says:

    It’s been a long while since I have seen this sense of community on /fashion/, hatred bands us together. shitty fashion sense is like the King Arthur of this board. This vanchild: our martyr, our saint.

  16. Anonymous says:

    Alright /fashion/gs, I know I struck a tender spot with my vans, but what are your thoughts on wearing horsehide boots instead?

    • Anonymous says:

      You ever read that Borges short story about the heresiarch that claimed Judas was in fact the most loyal and crucial of Jesus’s diciples and might have in fact been God himself?

      That’s you man. You’re Judas.

        • Anonymous says:

          https://i.imgur.com/PyfdQb4.jpg

          More parka

          https://i.imgur.com/LJ2GBtU.jpg

          Wearing some engineers and 25 oz, feelin’ like a real nigga

          https://i.imgur.com/ptnP8EZ.png

          for me it’s momotaro

          real question what’s with the gay fold?
          it looks so outdated. let them get bunched up at the boots or get them hemmed.

          • Anonymous says:

            >hem jeans to uncuffed length
            >wash them
            >inseam shrinks
            >gg being able to wear them with anything except boots
            yeah you can stack them but it looks even more dated than cuffing & looks like shit with everything but skinny cuts

          • Anonymous says:

            baggy jeans are that are too long are literally in vogue rn
            your solution only makes you look reddit
            literally the worst alternative

          • Anonymous says:

            I wore my jeans like that when I was 14, I don’t need to do it again. I still have some old chinos with blown out hems from heel drag.

          • Anonymous says:

            because your alternative is wearing them like hipsters did in 2016
            you’re essentially just showing your age and stagnated fashion sense

          • Anonymous says:

            you dress like shit and everyone can tell
            there are so many different styles of fashion that are “in” right now, probably more than ever before, and you still manage to go with one of the few that are absolutely dead in the water
            tastelets truly unsavable
            just

          • Anonymous says:

            >there are so many different styles of fashion that are “in” right now

            who cares lmao. You are such a people pleasing obsequious little gay

          • Anonymous says:

            >Thinking that he has taste when he cares about what is trendy

            cringe

            just don’t understand how you can look at some double denim dork with rolled up jeans and dr martens and think anything else than gay
            to each their own I guess

          • Anonymous says:

            >baggy jeans are that are too long are literally in vogue rn
            lolno and clueless.
            beyond the obvious
            >you have to be over 18 to post here
            >caring this much about tik tok
            baggy jeans that are too long hasn’t been in style for 20 years. the zoomer look is baggy but hemmed. they’re not stacking their jeans and they’re not dragging their hems on the ground like people were in the 2000s. why would i take fashion tips on dressing like a 14 year old from a guy who doesn’t even know the look?

            >your solution only makes you look reddit
            >literally the worst alternative
            reddit didn’t even know about raw denim or have a denim board until 15+ years into the osaka 5 revival. its funny how they’re now associated with a trend they were insanely late to.

            you dress like shit and everyone can tell
            there are so many different styles of fashion that are “in” right now, probably more than ever before, and you still manage to go with one of the few that are absolutely dead in the water
            tastelets truly unsavable
            just

            your tik tok algorithm trends die faster than it takes to break in a pair of jeans.
            i’m not an ipad baby or a woman, i don’t care about tik tok.

            you dress like shit and everyone can tell
            there are so many different styles of fashion that are “in” right now, probably more than ever before, and you still manage to go with one of the few that are absolutely dead in the water
            tastelets truly unsavable
            just

            >tastelet
            >paying $600 for jncos
            >not knowing they used to be $30 and associated with homeless juggalos
            nah sorry bro already been through this trend cycle. i’ll keep wearing my evisus.

          • Anonymous says:

            Baggy jeans stacked to shit over your boots at best makes you look like an unstylish grandpa. The only type of hem that is acceptable is if you get them shortened with a permanent cuff like skinhead jeans.

          • Anonymous says:

            >1. Raw Denim Get Shorter With Time
            > Raw denim bunches behind the knees, drawing up the cuff and shortening the leg
            > Raw denim also tends to shrink when they’re washed
            >3. It Helps Keep Dye Off Your Shoes
            > The inside of your jeans has less indigo to rub off
            >4. The Ideal Inseam Changes Based on Your Footwear
            > Your jeans fall differently if you’re wearing sneakers or boots
            >This one’s short and sweet: if you’re wearing low-top sneakers or shoes, you probably want your cuff to end right at the bottom of your ankle.
            >But when you’re wearing a good pair of boots, the way your cuff falls on your foot is going to change. You’ve got extra leather on your instep and running up your ankle that will cause your cuff to break in a different spot, folding (or “stacking”) instead of hanging.
            its because the length of raw denim changes throughout its life. you have to cuff, stack, or live with them becoming high waters.
            its pretty normal to cuff your jeans to fit a pair of boots then uncuff them to wear them with sneakers. what else are you going to do, blouse your boots into the jeans and larp as a soldier?
            small cuff = no cuff after wash + all your sneakers don’t turn blue

            you don’t have to
            I think I just assumed people in this thread were younger than they are

            >I think I just assumed people in this thread were younger than they are
            i bet my first pair of japanese denim is older than you lol.

          • Anonymous says:

            https://i.imgur.com/luKvTOg.png

            >baggy jeans are that are too long are literally in vogue rn
            lolno and clueless.
            beyond the obvious
            >you have to be over 18 to post here
            >caring this much about tik tok
            baggy jeans that are too long hasn’t been in style for 20 years. the zoomer look is baggy but hemmed. they’re not stacking their jeans and they’re not dragging their hems on the ground like people were in the 2000s. why would i take fashion tips on dressing like a 14 year old from a guy who doesn’t even know the look?

            >your solution only makes you look reddit
            >literally the worst alternative
            reddit didn’t even know about raw denim or have a denim board until 15+ years into the osaka 5 revival. its funny how they’re now associated with a trend they were insanely late to.

            […]
            your tik tok algorithm trends die faster than it takes to break in a pair of jeans.
            i’m not an ipad baby or a woman, i don’t care about tik tok.

            […]
            >tastelet
            >paying $600 for jncos
            >not knowing they used to be $30 and associated with homeless juggalos
            nah sorry bro already been through this trend cycle. i’ll keep wearing my evisus.

            hems won’t scrape the ground unless the cut is crazy wide anyways
            all your walls of text have good practical arguments im sure but it doesn’t change the fact that cuffing jeans looks ugly as heck

          • Anonymous says:

            >hems won’t scrape the ground unless the cut is crazy wide anyways
            in y2k the look was to have your pants so long the hem scrapes the ground and rips off in the back. the zoomer revival this time around is a bit different in both over-all composition (nobody was wearing mens cropped tops back then etc) and in how the pants fit. this time around its a much more deliberate and clean look. zoomers aren’t dragging their pants 4" too long on the pavement like we did back then. zoomer women aren’t throwing up all their food and wearing low rise everything either.
            ive sold all my y2k era men’s jeans already but here’s an example of ~2002-2005 era women’s jeans to show what i mean.

          • Anonymous says:

            >all your walls of text have good practical arguments im sure but it doesn’t change the fact that cuffing jeans looks ugly as heck
            well yeah cuffing originates from practical reasons (farmers not wanting to hem their jeans & to make their jeans last longer) not reddit or fashion.
            the act of doing it for fashion reasons is a nod to that. or you’re just like me and work in your jeans lol.
            >boomer containment zone
            what do you expect you’re in the iron shart thread. they make great stuff but they’re the favored brand of the 30-40 year old fleece vested IT guy. personally iron heart’s not my thing but i respect it, i wear straight leg higher waist 1950’s and pre 1930’s jeans with the wal mart crocs and a vintage adidas hoodie. you don’t have to be denim dan or rodeo rick to like not shitty jeans. some people are born black, some people are born white, some people are born gay and i was born canadian.

  17. Anonymous says:

    I know Iron Heart UHFs size REALLY small, are their jeans the same? I’m a size 33-34 in Levis 511s, which are pretty much the only jeans I’ve worn for the last 5-8 years

    • Anonymous says:

      In my experience wearing the IH straight fits, their jeans usually run about 1 size small compared to Levi’s. In Levi’s and Wranglers I’m a 33, but I need to go up to a 34 in IH. I would suggest measuring the waist of your best fitting jeans and comparing it to the size charts on the IH website. Your IH jeans will stretch about an inch with wear, but I certainly wouldn’t order jeans that are more than 0.5 inches too small in the waist. If you have more specific questions about fit, you should definitely call one of the Self Edge stores to ask about what size they would recommend for a pair of Iron Heart 777 if you’re coming from the Levi’s 511. They’ll give you a rundown on whether the Iron Hearts you’re interested in will differ in any other dimension compared to the 511s.

      • Anonymous says:

        levi’s uses vanity sizing so literally anything isn’t going to measure the same as it except other pants that happen to use the same exact amount of vanity sizing.
        but ya you got it, measure = king.

  18. Anonymous says:

    I am going to order some Iron Hearts soon, but I am going to have them hemmed right away by IH because I hecking hate the cuffed look

    • Anonymous says:

      I kept my entire family inseam length for a while before I recently got them hemmed at Self Edge. I kept an extra 1.5” so I can flip up a skinny cuff. Having a big ass cuff really is not that great. I think they can look pretty decent if you’re wearing a pair of sneakers or skate shoes, but after a while you realize you look like a clown especially if you’re wearing boots

      • Anonymous says:

        >tfw big cuff and boots wearer
        I do not particulary like big cuffs but am not bothered by them either. I don’t trust any taylor in my area to do a proper job on selvedge, so big cuff it is.

        • Anonymous says:

          Selvedge doesn’t make a difference when hemming jeans. The only thing that may be different is that most tailors can’t replicate a chain stitched hem. If that doesn’t matter to you, or if your jeans are lock stitched anyway, then just get them hemmed locally

    • Anonymous says:

      Based engie appreciator

      Picrel is the new 888s and yeehaws. I soaked and stretched the thighs a bit after taking this pic. Gonna wear them while squatting tomorrow to get some more stretch out of em and speed up break in

      • Anonymous says:

        perfect fit.
        front lunges, karate front/back stance & side lunges are also kino for getting tighter fitting upper blocks to break in.
        you probably already know this but its good evergreen advice to post anyways: take it gradually and don’t squat/lunge all the way to the floor for the first few weeks. even if the jeans will let you do it. you want the yarns to gradually stretch, not be overly strained and weaken = future crotch blowout. if you start out with a fit like this and spend about a month wanking around the house and working out in them you’ll wind up with the best fitting pair of jeans you’ve ever had + no crotch blowouts down the road.

        • Anonymous says:

          Oh shit, well it’s too late for that advice. Luckily post wet stretch I got an extra inch out of the thigh, and the crotch sits high enough that I’m not getting any chafing or pulling when I walk so I should be good till the first wash

    • Anonymous says:

      It’s certainly feels more lightweight than 21 oz, but I wouldn’t call it flimsy. If you really want as much drape and softness as possible, 14 oz is good. I think it’s perfect for Type III jackets because you want to have that drape with your jacket. With jeans it’s better to go with the 21 oz in my opinion

  19. Anonymous says:

    one day i’ll get a pair of the indigo/black or indigo overdyed black pairs, but i’ve got too many pairs of other denim right now.

  20. Anonymous says:

    Some jeans I cuff, some I don’t. Some stack, some fall straight. Some are baggy, some are slim. Depends how I feel that day, and no gaygy little zoomer has the balls to confront me about how I dress so I don’t really care what they think.

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