Inflation bros we got to cocky


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Inflation bros we got to cocky

  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    What does this mean?
    Inflation is cancelled?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      look what happened after 1993 for tech stocks. We're 5-10 years from true peak relative to money supply, Like in the early 00s.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not a retard, but don't know what you are referencing in 1993? Just the take off of their valuations?
        Or a specific political or monetary event?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Or a specific political or monetary event?
          Yes, both. My birth.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I just put in an overseas order for around $30,000. I do about 10-15 of these a year on bulk items, small, mostly metal, household stuff...
      3/4 of it was repriced and requoted from the last time I ordered the items around 1-2 years ago each.
      Every order (I have lots of items) I see the same thing with no break in trend. 15-20% price increase on 3/4 of the items.

      I'll report back the first order I put in that the prices aren't adjusted up.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Live time reporting.
        Just put in an order with the company we are distributors for as I import as well as sell other brands.
        Item 1 - Old price $1.94, new price $2.70
        Item 2 - Old price $7.43, new price $7.88
        So one massive increase, one small increase.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Deflationary death spiral incoming. You're going to miss $10 eggs. At least you have $10 to buy them with. Wait until you eggs are $1 and you can't afford them.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        For that to happen there would need to be massive layoffs and another great depression. Real rates would need to go to 10% and hold.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >massive layoffs and another great depression
          Yes.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I wouldn't put this past the israelites. Force everyone to get into debt because of inflation, then crush them with deflation.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          If they did this they’d unironically be another Hitler. israelites don’t have the balls to do shit like this, they understand they tread in shallow water and so are cautious in what they do to prevent an uprising. Everyone with debt getting btfo’d and the israelites stealing everything they own would cause uproar

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          If they did this they’d unironically be another Hitler. israelites don’t have the balls to do shit like this, they understand they tread in shallow water and so are cautious in what they do to prevent an uprising. Everyone with debt getting btfo’d and the israelites stealing everything they own would cause uproar

          They have no control over the global monetary system. None. They don't understand the golem of a financial system they created. That's the problem.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            This right here. This ship is running full steam ahead and there is no one at the helm.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I wish.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Snider is a midwit retard who is desperately trying to pump is failing bond portfolio

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Would be great..

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      yes, pretty much

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      No the money is still there it’s just they decreased the velocity aka the circulating supply as nobody is spending their money in this crap economy so as soon as people start spending again the extra supply will get introduced and we’ll get inflation. This is bound to happen but just being slowed down and planned to happen over the years so people don’t notice as much and revolt. 10 years from now everything will be at least 70% higher in price

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It means we are here

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      In 2020 money printers went brrr (massive spike). Since then we've been incinerating money via stimulus checks, massive trillion-dollar infrastructure bills passed by congress, and sending hundreds of billions of dollars in military equipment to Ukraine (that we're having to replenish for our own military), among all the other ways the money has been getting burned in the previous decades.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        the money still remains in circulation after being spent

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous
  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    wtf where did all this money go? does dragons hoarding it count as taking it out of the supply?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      a $100 bill can settle millions in loans. it just circles all back

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    This changes nothing, they just stopped printing.

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    No shit, it's called QT.

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    How do these lines form? What makes them form?

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    unironically inflation is over, YoY will be hugely down because they were so high last year.

    hell we *might* even get massive deflation YoY

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >massive deflation
      /retard

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It only just went below 0 so the inflated prices are not going away.

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    chart is fake
    here is the real chart
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2SL

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      You missed the YoY % change
      https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?graph_id=248494#0

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      AAAAAAAAAAAAA MY LINKIES

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >the etherdelta scammer is at it again
        bullish

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    This is year over year percent change it says so at the top holy shit its not a measure of supply. Twitter really is ful of retards

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Yea. Op is massive homosexual

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    This is just because rates increased, the change will go right back if rates decrease. You have base money, then you have circulating money (m2) which is more because it includes loans like those made by banks as part of a fractional reserve system. The ratio of circulating money to base is the multiplier. The fed can reduce the multiplier by raising rates which means m2 goes down, because there is less loans, like in the chart, but the actual base money will increase at a faster rate due to higher rates. So its more complex than just looking at m2. The fed is inflating base money at a much higher rate to pay the higher interest rates, and that is only fighting inflation in the short term by reducing lending which reducing the circulating supply. Eventually when lending adjusts to the new rates they will not reduce the circulating supply any more. And instead higher rates start to exponentially increase the base money. So eventually fed has to reduce rates to prevent base money inflation, and then that multiplier will go right back up because of increased lending. So inflation is pretty much inevitable without massive fiscal reform, the fed can only play tricks in the short term.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      B00kmarked

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      You're smart. Please tell us more.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Here's how I think about it: The circulating supply (M2) should increase by the formula:

        base supply * (interest rate ^ years) * multiplier

        The base supply is partly reserves which sit at the fed and earn interest on reserves (its a little more complicated because part of the base is actual currency but that proportion will decrease over time as reserves increase). Multiplier is the amount of lending in the fractional reserve system.

        The fed sets rates by increasing interest on reserves (and also reverse repo) so the fed increases that interest rate which reduces the multiplier because lending decreases. So the fed reduces M2 in the short term but would increase it exponentially in the long run. More and more as time goes by. It doesn't reduce inflation overall over long periods of time, it just pushes inflation out into the future.

        If you raise rates too high you also get to a point eventually when there is little to no lending going on. That is when the multiplier becomes 1. This is the case in Turkey with the lira, there is almost no real lending going on, and at this point raising rates does little to stop inflation because it doesn't contract the supply of money.

        Then when the fed wants to reduce rates, that multiple will go back up, because lending will go up, increasing M2, but with the permanently increased base money because of all the interest that was paid on reserves, so M2 will be higher than it was before. The only way to control money supply in the long run is for the government to fix fiscal policy by reducing spending or increasing revenue that can reduce the base supply.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          You obviously understand the process. The OFFICIAL process.
          I don't believe this is what is still happening AT ALL.

          It's a free for all with money going out everywhere and no proper accounting for any of it.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Some believe there is a black balance sheet for that, I don't think its necessary though.
            china locked themselves down into a recession. boomers are retiring. there are fewer young people, more of them brown. most millenials think manufacturing is too boring. everyone lerned2code but that doesn't create any physical goods

            >using M2 to imply deflation
            M2 went up 40% in the last two years, we have not yet seen 40% inflation. MoM core was +0.3% just in the last month, so it's still inflationary.

            I think we have though. it doesn't spread equally throughout sectors and its cumulative. housing prices are up 40% over 2 years

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Yea, I hear you. Why run a scam on a scam when no one cares or pays attention anyway?
              But I think they just can't help themselves.
              There is a cookie jar and they are five years old. Hand goes in.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              I'll just wait until month over month core inflation goes negative. We'd know roughly what the delay is on M2 supply working its way through the economy when that happens and could extrapolate out.

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Chart starts in 1981
    Anybody doing this should automatically be disregarded.

    None of these retards even know how the banking system works.

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    the fed is not remitting profits to the treasury.
    It is not reinvesting into bonds when they expire.
    The "problem" of it going below zero is that there are always more loans in the system than there is money to pay it. the interest collects exponentially. Which is why we don't see it going near zero very often. It doesn't take too long for something to cause a chain of defaults and devaluation.

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >using M2 to imply deflation
    M2 went up 40% in the last two years, we have not yet seen 40% inflation. MoM core was +0.3% just in the last month, so it's still inflationary.

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous
  16. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The keyword here is "growth" not the absolute change in money supply.

  17. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >YOU'VE SHOULD HAVE LISTENED

  18. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    hyperinflation was always a meme turn. That's a term that basically describes the total destruction of a currency, like a 50% devulation a month or something stupid like that. It has a definition. What was the real concern was "runaway secular inflation" and I still think it is, but it's starting to seem like it's coming under control. Will be interesting to see what happens when china comes back online fully.

    I would not be surprised if inflation is sticky and we get stuck at 4% for months and months.

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