In an attempt to ban drag queens, Montana has banned all cosplay by any gender in public venues. Text of the law

In an attempt to ban drag queens, Montana has banned all cosplay by any gender in public venues
Text of the law

>Section 1. Definitions. As used in [sections 1 and 2], the following definitions apply:

>(1) "Drag king" means a male or female performer who adopts a flamboyant or parodic male persona with glamorous or exaggerated costumes and makeup.

>(2) "Drag queen" means a male or female performer who adopts a flamboyant or parodic feminine persona with glamorous or exaggerated costumes and makeup.

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The goal is always to make the laws as vague as possible so that they can selectively enforce them only on people they don't like.

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can't believe trannies have actually been dumb enough to grip onto drag queen meme hour for as long as they have

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you don't realize that this leads to it being illegal to be trans in public, you're a fool

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        this is the puritanical society they want
        you are a citizen with rights to land and a vote if you are
        >straight
        >white
        >male
        you are property if you are
        >a woman
        >brown
        you are executed if you are
        >gay
        >trans
        >non conforming in any way
        >atheist

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          the LGBT(tm) identity is based on science and evidence, not even heterosexuality is backed by as much Hard data. so instead of relying on sexual repression and christian religious superstition you should catch up to the 21st century and embrace an identity based on LOVE (aka objective scientific and psychiatric authority)

          Many NSFFW users are neurodivergent but have internalized the ableist prejudices of the wider society rendering them vulnerable to radicalization by incels, transphobes, russian bots and white supremacists. it would be far more radical to adopt an intersectional equity based perspective that places evidence based treatment and the lived experience of mental health consumers first and foremost in its intersections with gender race sex worker status, internalized stigma against the use of hard drugs. Besides it plays into the arguments of reactionaries to imply queer peoples identities are based on trauma and not on objective scientific and psychiatric authority

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            What the frick? Mental health consumers? Are they like... Brain leeches or something? Or are those the brainworms... Actually that makes a lot of sense. I'll call brain worms "mental health consumers" from now on

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        No, being foolish is not realizing years ago that drag queen story hour was a non-issue that would've been forgotten if their wasn't a counter outrage over it. Just like how nobody would be talking about JK Rowling today if trannies didn't platform her.
        This is like if in reaction to public outrage about pedophiles gays came out and said "love is love".
        Trannies need to wisen up.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          yeah israelites should have just shut up about the holocaust then all this antisemitism wouldn't be around, right

          moron, even if b8

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Trannies try not to throw out a strawman instead of just responding to your point impossible challenge (gone sexual?)

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            no strawman needed
            >why do you keep harassing yourself
            is not valid rational or useful

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not the point I made. I don't know if you're all just moronic or if you just don't read before you respond.

            >if their wasn't a counter outrage over it
            there wasn't a counter outrage, there was just an outrage.

            >oh my god traditionally adult entertainers reading to children is weird and gross
            >HOW DARE YOU FIND QUEER PEOPLE GROSS
            That is a counter outrage.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >HOW DARE YOU FIND QUEER PEOPLE GROSS
            >That is a counter outrage
            yeah, and that wasn't a common response. thus, no counter outrage

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >yeah, and that wasn't a common response.
            I swear no matter what thread I post in, no matter what the issue is, there is always someone who just denies reality. I can't tell if you're just being willfully ignorant or actually trying to attempt some form of gaslighting.

            hate professional shitlib activists even more than the right. right wingers are straightforwardly stupid and hateful while leftist grifters and feds will try to extort you and blackmail you. tif you dont support drag queen story hour or surgeries for minors or kink at pride if you are not waving our flag and watching tv shows that ''represent you'' then its a slippery slope to trans genoicide, you are not allowed to be a weirdo or just be your own person you have to be an identity. grifters have nothing to offer except fear of the right, so they become professional provocateurs, dedicated to finding new ways to cause outrage. core of the progressive program is always really about more medicalization, support for the coercitive authroity of things like the media and the compulsory education system, and bush era war on terror hysteria that ignores the complicity of the security state with terrorism.

            Things become a lot easier to understand when you realize that it's all deepstate social engineering.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            it's not denying reality, you just get your sense of reality from conservative memes. of course conservatives think liberals are super into drag queen story hour shit, it's the basis of their whole outrage. conservatives are going to tell you libs were mad about them being mad every fricking time

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            There's a lot of irony in accusing someone of being myopic when the basis for that opinion is your own myopia.
            I'm not a conservative, by the way.
            And no, I don't think liberals are super into drag queen story hour, I think most people think it's pretty fricking weird. But people will defend it because of the narrative, just like people will attack it because of the narrative.
            The fact remains that defense of drag queen story hour is what became the big deal, just like people attacking JK Rowling became the big deal, not what she said.

            >a man dressed as a woman reading to kids is le bad because ummmmmm…… it just is ok!

            >a stripper dressed as a stripper reading to kids is le bad because ummmmmm…… it just is ok!

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            philosophytubes audience are contemptible dupes of the worst sort, but the man himself is a true Ubertroonsch, a SAS psywar veteran committing the ultimate sacrifice and riding the warmachine to the bitter end in order to serve his king ensure the biopolitical security of the realm,burning the village to save the village, becoming a troony to ensure the subjection of trannies as subhuman caste of mkultra sex work biomass, biopunk vaccine compliance operative, Joan of arc minus any of the saintliness and with a big fat wiener like a postmodern ballardian coronel kurtz going native amongst the gamers, the horror, the horror,

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            I've never watched a toob

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The fact remains that defense of drag queen story hour is what became the big deal
            interesting change. first you said counter outrage, now you say defense. why the change?
            addressing the actual point, the accusation was "queer people are inherently sexual so they shouldn't be reading books to kids"
            queer people have a problem with being labelled inherently sexual, so they argued that they are not inherently sexual and so it's fine for queer people to read to kids. not arguing this would mean accepting from conservatives that queer people are inherently sexual.
            you see, it's not about the drag queen story hours, it's about there not being laws passed that say queer people are inherently sexual and shouldn't be around children
            you would understand this, if you actually interacted with liberals or were in liberal spaces when people were arguing about this. but you weren't, your entire understanding comes from conservative memes

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >queer people aren't inherently sexual

            there is no such thing as gay sex whatever it is this people do is purely sanctimonious and ideological.i dont see them as hypersexual but as completely desexualized and puritanical, devoid of anything remotely resembling eroticism- these people dont have sex they virtue signal and engage in shrill, politically correct activitiies at the behest of george soros, the DNC and their marxist professors.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            no, gay sex does exist. so does straight sex, but you're not saying straight people shouldn't be allowed around children
            not that anyone is moronic enough to fall for such an obvious strawman

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            No change, counter outrage and defense are the same thing.
            >"queer people are inherently sexual so they shouldn't be reading books to kids"
            Wrong. Drag has always been inherently sexual. You can argue that that aspect of drag is left out in these spaces but we know it isn't.
            >you see, it's not about the drag queen story hours
            It is though. People think it's weird and gross. It really is this simple.
            What you're trying to say is no different than when conservatives say "oh well once you have gay marriage you'll have child marriage!". It's all just slippery slope nonesense and the worst part is nobody would even be legislating against drag queen story hour if it wasn't allowed to be made into an issue in the first place.

            there was never any "counter outrage" you fricking moron just people saying "hey maybe don't THREATEN TO KILL PEOPLE OVER AND SHOW UP WITH FRICKING GUNS TO A KIDS' READING HOUR"

            Umm actually sweetie there was no outrage over drag queen story hour just people saying "hey maybe DON'T RAPE OUR KIDS"

            >a stripper dressed as a stripper reading to kids is le bad because ummmmmm…… it just is ok!
            actually, so long as there is no stripping involved, i think strippers reading to kids is fine. drag isn't stripping though, it generally doesn't involved taking off any clothes

            Yeah, okay. Let's just pretend then if conservatives set up stripper story hour for their sons their wouldn't be nuclear levels of outrage.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >counter outrage and defense are the same thing
            this counter outrage over your points is what's gonna do you in, you should have just let me be outraged over your points and get you banned
            >Drag has always been inherently sexual
            the term drag predates it's modern gay connotation, in british english it literally just means crossdressing.
            no, it hasn't ever been inherently sexual. my straight cisgender brother has done drag before for fun. it's literally just wearing silly clothes
            >People think it's weird and gross
            because it's gay men doing it, because people find queer people weird and gross.
            >It's all just slippery slope nonesense
            right yeah, it's a slippery slope fallacy to say that the politicians now, who opposed gay marriage when it was being debated, still want to ban gay marriage and are just using drag queen story hour to work towards that.
            imagine believing that a politician continues believing the same thing over a period of ten years

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            We are not afraid to call them out for what they are: white supremacist domestic terrorists! if you are not with us then you are with the terrorists! We have every right to demand the destigmatization and normalization of sex work, mental health, fat positivity, pornography, drug use, decolonization prison abolition police abolition family abolition the sexual enmancipation of children and an end to white supremacy and the gender binary and the abolition of a white supremacist culture based on the tyranny of the written word.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            drop the sexual "enmancipation" of children and i'm down

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >this counter outrage over your points is what's gonna do you in, you should have just let me be outraged over your points and get you banned
            Missed the point. Nobody would care about it if people just let it go instead of fueling the fire.
            >no, it hasn't ever been inherently sexual
            Performative drag, the specific style and culture that drag queen story hour is related to, has always been inherently sexual. It is a falmboyant adult entertainment.
            Sexual doesn't have to mean sexy or pornographic, it is just sexually charged.
            >because it's gay men doing it, because people find queer people weird and gross.
            No, people find it weird and gross because kids are involved. Even a lot of fairly conservative people have no problems with drag as an entertainment.
            There is no justification for why drag queen story hour even exists. It's not even a queer thing I'd wager, it stinks to me of peak white-womanry. Something for housewives to pat their backs over.

            >if conservatives set up stripper story hour for their sons their wouldn't be nuclear levels of outrage
            that's called hooters, and conservative men do take their kids there, and there is no outrage

            Hooters isn't the same thing at all and I bet you can find plenty of examples of liberal women who've tried to rally against it, but guess what, nobody cares because they were ignored further proving my point.

            Lmao troonys platform a literal billionaire mega famous author, 9/10 bait frick you

            You're actually genuinely dumb if you can't follow something that simple, like shit no wonder you're having your rights stripped away when this is how your brain works.
            1. Being rich doesn't make you relevant
            2. Having a dedicated fanbase no matter how big doesn't mean the things you say will have any weight
            3. Saying something to a fanbase that a vast, vast majority of them are going to disagree with affects nothing.
            What some c**t said on twitter, no matter how famous, is meaningless because no normal human being would've seen it. I can't recall a single mention of JK Rowling saying anything transhpobic UNTIL it was blowing up that she was being attacked by trannies.
            Did that spell it out enough for you pea brain?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Nobody would care about it if people just let it go instead of fueling the fire
            no, they would have banned it just the same

            >Performative drag, the specific style and culture that drag queen story hour is related to, has always been inherently sexual
            no, it hasn't
            >No, people find it weird and gross because kids are involved
            people find drag queens weird and gross regardless, kids being involved is why they escalate it to law.
            it's fine for kids to be around queer people just like it's fine for kids to be around straight people

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >people find drag queens weird and gross regardless
            this is true, I'm a troony homosexual and drag has always made me uncomfortable because of its performative nature and my own gender identity hangups, but I'm also not going to roll over and let them get abused or used as some justification for anti-trans laws and restricting everyone's public expression across the board

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            yep, i'm not a big fan of drag myself. my problem is with conservatives intentionally conflating queer people existing in proximity to children and grooming

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >no, they would have banned it just the same
            I sincerely doubt this, this legislation is literally just lip service, it's so blatantly half-baked.
            >no, it hasn't
            I mean, it just has. Like, I don't know what to argue here because you're just wrong. The sexual component I'm sure comes from it being considered already fringe and risque, but it still has always been there. It is the core reason behind the styles and the performances.

            >trannies
            >drag

            the overwhelming majority of drag queens are cis gay men anon......

            Gee, never said that drag queens were trannies dumb dumb. The fact that drag queens aren't trannies makes it even more dumb for trannies to get their panties twisted over it dumb dumb.

            >Hooters isn't the same thing at all
            your right, hooters IS inherently sexual. and conservatives are fine with bringing kids there
            the problem isn't kids and sexual stuff together for conservatives, their problem is kids and queer people together

            Hooters isn't geared towards kids, there are a bunch of drag queen restuarants so your argument compeltely falls apart.
            What conservatives do and don't like is irrelevant regardless, what matters is what the majority of people think, and the majority of people think drag queens reading to children is weird, because it is.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I sincerely doubt this, this legislation is literally just lip service, it's so blatantly half-baked.
            you are a fool
            >It is the core reason behind the styles and the performances
            and an ignoramus

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >insults
            It's okay sweetie you can just not reply, you don't have to shitfling just because you have no arguments.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            your arguments have no substance, you give no sources, you're just saying nu-uh
            that's why i'm insulting you

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Hooters isn't geared towards kids
            neither is drag, but sometimes kids are taken to hooters, and sometimes drah queens read books at a local library
            >there are a bunch of drag queen restuarants so your argument compeltely falls apart
            no? it doesn't? what aspect of my argument relies on there not being drag restaurants?
            >what matters is what the majority of people think
            possibly the most moronic political comment i've ever seen

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >drag queen story hour isn't geared towards kids
            Okay so you're moronic
            >no? it doesn't? what aspect of my argument relies on there not being drag restaurants?
            you say conservative hypocrite because bring kid to hooters but hate drag queen story hour which mean must hate queer people
            me say if true then why conservative not come after drag queen restaurant which actually comparable to hooters
            >possibly the most moronic political comment i've ever seen
            Literally the case, all law making is geared around voters and what will keep the core voter base happy without stirring up the non-voters.

            your arguments have no substance, you give no sources, you're just saying nu-uh
            that's why i'm insulting you

            >do my googling for me
            My argumens are common sense when your brain isn't zogged out on sitting around all day and reading about how you're being victimized. I say time and time again how fricking funny it is that you and the chuds shit on each other for doing the same damn things.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >drag queen story hour isn't geared towards kids
            don't put words in my mouth
            drag is not geared towards children, but sometimes dray queens read to kids. this isn't complex
            >why conservative not come after drag queen restaurant
            they do, there have been bans on that sort of performance, and conservatives are openly against drag in general
            for future reference, it helps to actually explain your point. you were the first one to mention drag restaurants, so you need to explain how they're relevant
            >all law making is geared around voters and what will keep the core voter base happy
            anon the majority of people who vote, vote democrat. if what mattered was people's opinion then there wouldn't be fricking voter suppression

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Then what's your fricking point, we're not talking about drag we're talking specifically about drag queen story hour. People think drag queen story hour is weird, not drag. I don't know why this is hard for you.
            >they do, there have been bans on that sort of performance
            Literally all the bans are off the back of drag queen story hour, which further proves my point.
            >so you need to explain how they're relevant
            Sorry I have you too much credit and thought you'd be able to understand why when we were talking about DRAG QUEENS and also RESTAURANTS I might bring up DRAG QUEEN RESTAURANTS
            >if what mattered was people's opinion then there wouldn't be fricking voter suppression
            I mean I literally just explained it. The goal is to maintain the status quo and keep most people not voting while still maintaining enough of a voter base to stay in power.
            If you say, for example, pass a law that lets gays frick your kids then a bunch of non-voters are going to start voting and you're going to lose. BUT at the same time if instead you pass a law that puts gays in prison then a lot of those exact same non-voters are still going to vote you out.

            >muh zog
            KYS

            >My argumens are common sense when your brain isn't zogged out
            not doing a good job beating the /misc/ accusations

            >everyone who disagrees with me is a chud
            >everyone who disagress with me is a troony
            not doing a good job beating the chud comparisons

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            dude you literally said zogged we know what you are

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >he's still trying
            [...]

            Anything to avoid facing the truth, whatever protects your fragile ego chudettes

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            You have to go back

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >My argumens are common sense when your brain isn't zogged out
            not doing a good job beating the /misc/ accusations

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Hooters isn't the same thing at all
            your right, hooters IS inherently sexual. and conservatives are fine with bringing kids there
            the problem isn't kids and sexual stuff together for conservatives, their problem is kids and queer people together

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >if conservatives set up stripper story hour for their sons their wouldn't be nuclear levels of outrage
            that's called hooters, and conservative men do take their kids there, and there is no outrage

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            proyecting lgbt thinks ''conservatives'' read anyone who disagrees with their political party are pedophile seks maniacs just like them who love hooters and child pageants and want to expose kids to heterosexual deabuchery for no reason. but they are also somehow repressed christian fundamentalists who hate seks

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Swerfism is a form of bigotry precisely because marginalized folx such as queer and trans people and the neurodivergent are more likely to be sex workers this is why we must decriminalize normalize and destigmatize for the sellers as well as for the buyers. If you arefor social justice and marginalized people you must support sex work. Also sexual liberation is essential for cultural decolonization and many people discover they are queer from watching porn. This is why there will almost certainly be even more sex work under socialism.Queer people need to stand in solidarity against fascism with their sex worker comrades

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >a stripper dressed as a stripper reading to kids is le bad because ummmmmm…… it just is ok!
            actually, so long as there is no stripping involved, i think strippers reading to kids is fine. drag isn't stripping though, it generally doesn't involved taking off any clothes

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            there was never any "counter outrage" you fricking moron just people saying "hey maybe don't THREATEN TO KILL PEOPLE OVER AND SHOW UP WITH FRICKING GUNS TO A KIDS' READING HOUR"

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >if their wasn't a counter outrage over it
          there wasn't a counter outrage, there was just an outrage.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          hate professional shitlib activists even more than the right. right wingers are straightforwardly stupid and hateful while leftist grifters and feds will try to extort you and blackmail you. tif you dont support drag queen story hour or surgeries for minors or kink at pride if you are not waving our flag and watching tv shows that ''represent you'' then its a slippery slope to trans genoicide, you are not allowed to be a weirdo or just be your own person you have to be an identity. grifters have nothing to offer except fear of the right, so they become professional provocateurs, dedicated to finding new ways to cause outrage. core of the progressive program is always really about more medicalization, support for the coercitive authroity of things like the media and the compulsory education system, and bush era war on terror hysteria that ignores the complicity of the security state with terrorism.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            the problem is that as long as another group doesn't try to also have minortity rights as thier thing. libshits are gonna win. a lot of thier power from their monopoly in that type of stuff.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            which is also why they take advantage of their position to exploit their captive constituency and push things that would otherwise be wildly unpopular. which in turn creates backlash and enforces loyalty.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Speech_Coalition

            https://4w.pub/prostasia-normalize-pedophilia/

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Lmao troonys platform a literal billionaire mega famous author, 9/10 bait frick you

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I hope so

        this is the puritanical society they want
        you are a citizen with rights to land and a vote if you are
        >straight
        >white
        >male
        you are property if you are
        >a woman
        >brown
        you are executed if you are
        >gay
        >trans
        >non conforming in any way
        >atheist

        Also I hope so

    • 10 months ago
      Korra

      >trannies
      >drag

      the overwhelming majority of drag queens are cis gay men anon......

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Scenes from drag events hosted across the United States in bars, clubs, and outdoor festivals have been even more shocking and disturbing: in Miami, a man with enormous fake breasts and dollar bills stuffed into his G-string grabs the hand of a preschool-aged girl and struts her in front of the crowd; in Washington, D.C., a drag queen wearing leather and chains teaches a young child how to dance for cash tips; in Dallas, hulking male figures with makeup smeared across their faces strip down to undergarments, simulate a female orgasm, and perform lap dances on members of a roaring audience of adults and children. Newspaper headlines have also announced abuses: “Tucson High School Counselor Behind Teen Drag Show Arrested for Relationship with Minor”; “Houston Public Library Admits Registered Child Sex Offender Read to Kids in Drag Queen Storytime”; “Drag Queen Charged with 25 Counts of Felony Child Sexual Abuse Material Possession”; “Second ‘Drag Queen Story Hour’ Reader in Houston Exposed as Convicted Child Sex Offender”; “Drag Queen Story Hour Activist Arrested for Child Porn, Still Living with His Adopted Kids.”

    the spirit of drag is predicated on the transgressive sexual element and the ideology of queer theory, which cannot be erased by switching the context and softening the language. The philosophical and political project of queer theory has always been to dethrone traditional heterosexual culture and elevate what Rubin called the “sexual caste” at the bottom of the hierarchy: the transsexual, the transvestite, the fetishist, the sadomasochist, the prostitute, the porn star, and the pedophile. Drag Queen Story Hour can attempt to sanitize the routines and run criminal background checks on its performers, but the subculture of queer theory will always attract men who want to follow the ideology to its conclusions.

    https://www.city-journal.org/article/the-real-story-behind-drag-queen-story-hour

    • 10 months ago
      Cis >:V
      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        but *angry npc face* red party and the catholic church also rape children. if you do not support blue party and and LGBT raping children then you must support red party and the catholic church. hypocrite much?

        • 10 months ago
          Cis >:V

          Persons in costume do not have the primary intention of child raping you porn addicted.

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >YAS KWEEN SLAY!
    >and indoctrinating them on the importance of normalizing sex work and sex reassignment surgery

    Are you fricking serius, anon?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      children are eggs. It's our job to help them hatch. Kids sex kids. It's not a problem and never has been. If a child wants to express themselves sexually at an early age, we have no right to interfere with their choice. It's their body. You know who has a problem with that? Parents, who think they own their children. They don't. Children choose. Kids can be be c**tboys. Every medical professional is in agreement on this.

      We care about kids and we'll win. We always do. Exposing them to sex early encourages body positivity and makes pleasure a fun activity, instead of something to fear. Sexwork is legitimized and everyone is happier.

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    reminder to report the spammer, but take a look and make sure you can recognize the pasta

  6. 10 months ago
    it is over

    >Montana has banned all cosplay by any gender

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like how this moron spammer has no argument to why a guy dressed as a guy or a girl dressed as a girl is banned

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >a man dressed as a woman reading to kids is le bad because ummmmmm…… it just is ok!

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Actually anon, now a man dressed as a man is also banned

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        true, you cannot dress flamboyantly as a man or a woman, or in parody, at all anymore in montana
        in other words, this is working exactly as planned from the start

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      see,

      Scenes from drag events hosted across the United States in bars, clubs, and outdoor festivals have been even more shocking and disturbing: in Miami, a man with enormous fake breasts and dollar bills stuffed into his G-string grabs the hand of a preschool-aged girl and struts her in front of the crowd; in Washington, D.C., a drag queen wearing leather and chains teaches a young child how to dance for cash tips; in Dallas, hulking male figures with makeup smeared across their faces strip down to undergarments, simulate a female orgasm, and perform lap dances on members of a roaring audience of adults and children. Newspaper headlines have also announced abuses: “Tucson High School Counselor Behind Teen Drag Show Arrested for Relationship with Minor”; “Houston Public Library Admits Registered Child Sex Offender Read to Kids in Drag Queen Storytime”; “Drag Queen Charged with 25 Counts of Felony Child Sexual Abuse Material Possession”; “Second ‘Drag Queen Story Hour’ Reader in Houston Exposed as Convicted Child Sex Offender”; “Drag Queen Story Hour Activist Arrested for Child Porn, Still Living with His Adopted Kids.”

      the spirit of drag is predicated on the transgressive sexual element and the ideology of queer theory, which cannot be erased by switching the context and softening the language. The philosophical and political project of queer theory has always been to dethrone traditional heterosexual culture and elevate what Rubin called the “sexual caste” at the bottom of the hierarchy: the transsexual, the transvestite, the fetishist, the sadomasochist, the prostitute, the porn star, and the pedophile. Drag Queen Story Hour can attempt to sanitize the routines and run criminal background checks on its performers, but the subculture of queer theory will always attract men who want to follow the ideology to its conclusions.

      https://www.city-journal.org/article/the-real-story-behind-drag-queen-story-hour

      the burden on proof is on you to explain why its good to have convicted sex offenders read propaganda literature to kids and twerk on their faces

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >why its good to have convicted sex offenders read propaganda literature to kids and twerk on their faces
        those things aren't good, no one said they are
        the burden of proof is on you to show that these things did happen, or will happen

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think the problem with drag queen story hour type stuff. is that drag culture has conections with the porn industry and men. to groups know for rape. but like I am not a misandierst and if we put in prison for life all the top people involved in sex work at the same time. the sex industry could be solved. like as long as the drag queen proves that he is good for the comunity I guess is fine. but don't be afraid to put security messusres and be ready to send to hell(metaphorically) anyone involved who toauched a child.

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, moral hysteria leads to draconian laws being put in place. This is not the first time. Australia, being the authoritarian censorial shithole it is, banned porn that could be seen as "depicting someone under 18", which basically meant young looking people, women with small breasts etc. How no one thought "hey, isn't this kind of a form of body shaming and also completely ridiculous?" I don't know, but that is moral hysteria for you, when all logic is thrown out of the window. Remember this is the same country that banned a whole swathe of violent videogames also.

    And now you have this "WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?" moral panic bullshit being used to ban drag in public, which as you say will essentially mean that, because the law is so widely defined, even cosplayers will probably find themselves on the wrong side of the law.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      boymodder porn is iligal in australia. sad

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      this, ask any queer person and they will tell you pornography is the liberating force.The real class struggle is not in factories but in womens bodies. Sexwork is a threat to patriarchy the capitalist system itself it is radically queer because it goes against the idea that sex is for the reproduction of the nuclear family and the patriarchal ideology of romantic love. Its a means for workers to take the means of production into their own hands here and now to abolish the distinction between the private sphere and the public, between work and pleasure and self expression. To break down the walls of lily white christian suburbia into a brave new world of pleasure rebellion and freedom. Yes it is true what they say about us queer postmodern neomarxists We are gonna groom all your daughters to be prostitutes and your sons to be nympho trans sex workers.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        yeah i'm sure everyone will think you're being genuine this time, immediately following your previous attempt

  11. 10 months ago
    swiftie

    they banned halloween

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      this lmao
      CIS PEOPLE ESPECIALLY CONSERVATIVES AND WOMEN WILL SUFFER THE MOST AS A RESULT OF ALL OF THESE LAWS
      THEY ARE VOTING AWAY THEIR OWN RIGHTS AT EVERY LEVEL OF SOCIETY TO OWN THE LIBS BECAUSE FAUX NEWS TOLD THEM SO

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >drag is inherently sexual
    >implying conservatives are not actively writing actual laws for and defending child marriage in addition to lowering or removing the age of consent and allowing child labor without any restrictions
    >reading a book is rape
    absolutely delusional hate-mongering piece of shit

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      see

      but *angry npc face* red party and the catholic church also rape children. if you do not support blue party and and LGBT raping children then you must support red party and the catholic church. hypocrite much?

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >false equivalencies
    nah, see my nuts swinging in your face moron

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    > manmode
    > breasts, long hair and no facial hair with a fat ass with a slim frame
    > womanmode
    > obvious clocky hon

    I can't be in Montana because I'm doing 'drag' according to them no matter what I do.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      this is EXACTLY the point, if you are "visibly trans" you are now committing a crime by existing anywhere in public across whole individual states of this country

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      well it's only a ban on reading to kids in libraries. the bans on public crossdressing haven't happened in montana just yet

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah just wait another month.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          idk if they'll wait that long, or longer
          but it's definitely where they want to go. if it weren't they wouldn't be cheering for the eradication of "transgenderism"

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Your children! Give us access to your children!
          >screeches in furry AVI ACAB AMAB BLM blue wave emoji pronouns land acknowledgement public teachers union membership (you know how hard is it to fire public employees?)link to onlyfans and laundry list of mental illnesses in bio

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >haven't happened in montana just yet

        https://apnews.com/article/drag-story-ban-montana-transgender-445fb457909476770610217906b3fac5
        >The bill, which was co-sponsored by more than half of the Republican-controlled legislature, took immediate effect after Republican Gov. Greg Gianforte signed it on Monday.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          yes if you read the rest of my comment you will see i was referring to a general crossdressing ban. this is only a ban on reading to kids in schools and libraries while in drag

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >PROHIBITING SEXUALLY ORIENTED PERFORMANCES ON PUBLIC PROPERTY
            WHERE CHILDREN ARE PRESENT;
            this means walking down the street in public view

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            it could be applied that way, i'm not sure that it would though. i hope you're wrong, but you may be right

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            I hope so too, there's been a lot of speculation around the tennessee law for the same reason and that's going into effect starting july last I heard so this might be the first real testing ground for "performing in public" whether or not you actually are

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's not drag queens they're banning you mongoloid (i mean that too but most importantly), it's the book reading part. THINK OF THE CHILDREN. You wouldn't want THE CHILDREN to want to start reading and have some sort of education that'd make them think critically, now, would you?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      implying children imprisioned in the FEDGOV compulsory education system have any time to learn to read in between all the drag queen story hour, the CRT and the FBI false flag mass shootings

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    you reveal your hand every time, /misc/-kun, because you cannot help ourself
    it always comes down to race religion and conformity

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      t. le ebbin queer leftists AKA the people who mindlessly defend the compulsory education system DEI EGS bureaucracies the biomedical psychiatric pharma complex and the sex industry like the dumbest of dumb right wingers defend the church police and military.

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    really says a lot about your political views that your main way to attempt to make a point is to pretend you are arguing for the other side and lie

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      im being completely sincere there's something very hot about traumatized child abuse victims with autism who think they are girls.

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just realized that this bans plays and musicals too lol

  19. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >guys guys this law is totally going to be used to ban cosplayers and musicals xD

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is that not what the law says?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >bro the actual wording of the fricking LAW doesn't matter; it's just the "vibes"! the intent is all that matters! it's not like a significant part of law school is having it hammered into you that details and explicit, literal meanings do matter a whole fricking lot!!!

  20. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    circus clowns in shambles

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Another victim of the culture wars

  21. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Drag is an inherently sexual, fetishistic, and performative act. All the morons insisting "its just about reading to le children! What do you have against it?" need to minecrafted. If this these drag freaks were 100% in it for the good of the children, they'd just go to schools/libraries dressed like a normal fricking person and read enriching books to kids. All the people that blindly participated in all the deep-state astroturfed faux transphobia moral panics deserve what's coming to them sooner or later. Blindly defending drag story hours, 6'3" linebacker hons playing in women's sports, and going to women's prisons because they're nominally "queer issues" makes you as moronic christcucks and blue lives matter drones.

  22. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >muh zog
    KYS

  23. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >he's still trying

    [...]

  24. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >you have to be anti-semitic to identify israeli deepstate social engineering
      I suppose I'm also anti-white because I don't like billionares raping the planet and fricking kids.
      The fact that people curl up into a ball whenever anyone says anything about anything vaguely israeli is more telling.

      You have to go back

      Sorry chudsister but it's usually the trannies on this board that had a /misc/ phase.

      imagine not just moving the goalposts but packing them both into your car and driving cross country then placing them on the beach and saying LOOK SEE TRANNIES ARE BAD AND AT FAULT HERE TOO NOT JUST THE LITERAL TERRORISTS

      Goalposts were never moved, I said trannies were moronic for making drag queen shit their issue and that remains true.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >making drag queen shit their issue
        NOBODY DID THIS EXCEPT CONSERVATIVES
        0/10 reality-denying troll kys

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >omg he gendered that troony correctly
          >ummm you have to go back we don't have to win the argument now you said a no no we get to just jack our penis wenis in the thread replying to no one
          >am i right chudbros?

          >NOBODY DID THIS
          I just don't know how you can be so confidently categorically wrong. Genuinely. And then to follow it up by accusing me of being the one who is denying reality lol
          I don't even get how this board can be so fricking weirdly fragile, like I can go through the archive now and find hundreds of threads shitting on drag queen story hour, but because I said that trannies were dumb for defending it you crumble and start malding.
          It is like this constantly and invariably we don't even disagree, you just got upset for nothing.

          >(1) "Drag king" means a male or female performer who adopts a flamboyant or parodic male persona with glamorous or exaggerated costumes and makeup.
          David Bowie BTFO

          Doesn't really hit when you take into account Bowie's history with minors.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Doesn't really hit when you take into account Bowie's history with minors.
            Uh... this is my first time hearing about anything like that. Do I even want to know?

  25. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    imagine not just moving the goalposts but packing them both into your car and driving cross country then placing them on the beach and saying LOOK SEE TRANNIES ARE BAD AND AT FAULT HERE TOO NOT JUST THE LITERAL TERRORISTS

  26. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    omg
    >zogged
    >says anything about anything vaguely israeli
    lol
    lmao

    literally go back

  27. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Does this also count for fursuiters?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      If their fursona is nonbinary, it is okay

  28. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >(1) "Drag king" means a male or female performer who adopts a flamboyant or parodic male persona with glamorous or exaggerated costumes and makeup.
    David Bowie BTFO

  29. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    kek he keeps trying

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      nobody is being fragile here except you, snowflake, nobody cares about your ebin poltard "centrist" takes and antisemitic shit elsewhere kthx

      >we're not fragile so please don't be a meanie bo beanie here
      >leave our this echo chamber hugbox and go to other echo chamber hugbox

  30. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    nobody is being fragile here except you, snowflake, nobody cares about your ebin poltard "centrist" takes and antisemitic shit elsewhere kthx

  31. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Drag is the transgender form of black face.

  32. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Men can't be extremely masculine or feminine
    >Women can't be extremely masculine or feminine
    Androgyny bros can't stop winning

  33. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >an echo chamber is when you don't blame victims of harassment and assault instead of blaming the people doing it
    lel

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      An echo chamber is when your reaction to someone you disagree with is to avoid discussion, beg them to leave and pat each other on the back. It's pretty textbook.
      There is also a difference between blaming someone for something and pointing out why something is happening. For example, if a woman walks through a seedy part of town alone at night and gets turned out by a gang of Pakis, it is not blaming them if you say it is dumb to be a woman walking through a seedy part of town alone at night.
      I never said trannies were asking for it, I said they were dumb to do it. Why would I come to /lgbt/ to post about how conservatives are to blame for everything, I'll leave that kind of wanky echochamber behaviour up to you.

      >Doesn't really hit when you take into account Bowie's history with minors.
      Uh... this is my first time hearing about anything like that. Do I even want to know?

      Life is easier if you just assume that any musician pre-2010 with groupies was fricking teenage girls.

  34. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bro typing all that shit and I ain't reading it

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >no no no its not an echo chamber for real but I won't read anything that might upset me!

      there was still never any such thing as a counter outrage and your point is a thin flakey veneer over your actual intent
      kys

      Is reactionary outrage a better term? I feel like I explained it pretty clearly. These things enter into an outrage feedback loop. First someone is upset about something, then another group gets upset that someone is upset, then more people get upset because people are upset that someone is upset, and so on.
      I mean you've literally been sleeping if you haven't seen it, this has literally been the last ~10 years of discourse.
      My point has no veneer because it is plainly stated and obvious.
      I don't even agree with the ban.
      I will admit my point has changed a bit now, which is less that trannies shouldn't attach themselves to pointless topics and give these issues heat, and more that trannies should try touching grass and stop sitting around exposing themselves to actual psyop tier social engineering, convincing themselves that everyone hates them and whipping themselves up into schizo-frenzies so that everything to them becomes some kind of deep personal attack. And I say that as a person who likes trannies a whole lot more than average.
      >kys
      Mean.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >reactionary outrage
        nobody JUMPED ON THIS SHIT and turned into a FRICKING ISSUE until it WAS ACTIVELY TARGETED BY DOMESTIC TERRORISTS AND HOSTILE LEGISLATION YOU DUMB SHIT

        yes people are "outraged" but trannies did not FRICKING ATTACH THEMSELVES TO THIS ISSUE THEY WERE DRAGGED INTO IT BY THEIR ASSAILANTS YOU DROOLING moron

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          This just isn't true. I mean, yeah it's not the case for all trannies obviously as they're not a hivemind, and I'm sure it's not the case for you as you seem to have that autism thing where you can't understand that other people have their own experiences, but from the get go there were trannies defending drag story hour and made the issue about them.

          btw, reductionist blame-shifting "allies" everyone

          I would never call myself an ally, first of all it sounds like homosexual virtue signalling, second of all what's right is right, I don't implicitly agree with trannies or any group simply because.
          I'm not blame shifting.
          What would be the point of me blaming conservatives? The thread is already going to be filled with it anyway, it's just stating the obvious. I don't exactly expect any conservatives to be hanging around here regardless so it'd just be more wankery "booohooo we're such victims".
          Literally there are no point to any of these threads if any dissension causes such pissing and shitting. You might as well just go stand in front of a mirror and call yourself a "troony homosexual" and then pat yourself on the back for being so oppressed.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          if you are not with us you are with the terrorists! (never mind that the terrorists are confirmed feds)by this point progressives are just idpol george bush. if it wasnt for the evil terrorists these people would have no authority to police your thoughts and identity or enforce their culture of mandatory ''fun'' ie. you can't be sex ambivalent you gotta be 'sex positive' and support the sex industry and what amounts to grooming kids. how overblown rhetoric is used to pressure queer teenagers into having no boundaries because its a slippery slope that leads to genoicide(even though they are more likely to get scapegoated as well) . or else you cant be a weirdo or your own person you have to side with our flag and our vision of what is normal. so progressive ideology is not so much the opposite of conservatism but a continuation of it. in both cases its about paternalism, supposedly about limiting people's freedom's 'for their own good' but really about controlling people in order to exploit them

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternalism#:~:text=Paternalism%20is%20action%20that%20limits,expresses%20an%20attitude%20of%20superiority.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        the problem anon is that culture war bullshit is a pysop and most people know this. but they are so afarid of the drolling reatards that fall into the pyop that they still fall for culture war bullshit. since they think is the only way to defaeat them. I have no idea how to fix this and its gonna get worse

  35. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    there was still never any such thing as a counter outrage and your point is a thin flakey veneer over your actual intent
    kys

  36. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    banning drag performances is just a front to make it illegal to be trans. simple as

  37. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tldr

  38. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    btw, reductionist blame-shifting "allies" everyone

  39. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >from the get go there were trannies defending drag story hour and made the issue about them
    oh, and what could they be defending it against? hmmmmmm?

    just stop, already

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hons still at it replying to no one and being dismissive
      slay em sis

      What kind of gotcha is this?
      Frick me anon did you think I was saying that conservatives only started attacking drag queen story hour because of trannies?
      Christ you're dense.
      conservatives outraged about drag queen story hour --(outrage)--> trannies outraged at conservatives for being upset over drag queens --(counter outrage)--> narrative is now lumping in trannies and drag queens (on an issue that is really just weird liberal shit)
      Also surprise surprise I fricking called it, Drag Story Hour was founded by a white woman. I knew this shit stunk of upper middle class white liberal womary.

      the problem anon is that culture war bullshit is a pysop and most people know this. but they are so afarid of the drolling reatards that fall into the pyop that they still fall for culture war bullshit. since they think is the only way to defaeat them. I have no idea how to fix this and its gonna get worse

      That's what I've been saying.
      >and its gonna get worse
      I don't think it'll get much worse, the point is for it to perpetuate through pendulum swinging to create a kind of cold war/9-11 era mass hysteria so that calling politicians pedophiles and pointing out domestic terrorism performed by israelis bad, and sitting in online hugboxes and attacking other working class people good.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >conservatives outraged about drag queen story hour --(outrage)--> trannies outraged at conservatives for being upset over drag queens --(counter outrage)--> narrative is now lumping in trannies and drag queens (on an issue that is really just weird liberal shit)
        you are so fricking delusional

        no, trannies were smeared and lumped into the drag shit from the fricking start, don't dare try this revisionist shit you are literally pushing the conservative anti-trans narrative right now

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, drag queens are just cringe gay guys.

  40. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    some drag queens are trans
    some trans are drag queens

    not all drag queens are trans
    not all trans are drag queens

    is this honestly too complex?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      And all drag queens are cringe

  41. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jesus Christ.
    Anyone want a payday? Dress up like a woman and adopt a flamboyant and/or parodic feminine persona with glamorous and exaggerated costumes and makeup, read Mein Kampf to some kids, and sue the frick out of Montana when you get arrested.
    You WILL win.

  42. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >wear aloha shirt in Montana
    >go to jail

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