Ok brainlet, let me lend you a hand.
The middle chain is in tension.
The table top and attached frame hang from that cable.
The cable is hung from the bottom frame.
Even if the centre of gravity was perfect, the slightest breeze would collapse the whole thing.
If it were to collapse, the table has to rotate in a direction.
If it rotates, at least one of the external chains goes into tension and prevents the rotation.
Due to construction tolerances, that table will be wobblier than your alcoholic granddaddy after his parkinsons diagnosis, but it won't collapse.
Congratulations, you can now pass the first year of an engineering degree.
>the slightest breeze would collapse the whole thing.
It actually takes a bit more force than that in the right direction to make these things collapse. Once it gets past a certain point, it rapidly collapses though.
>the slightest breeze would collapse the whole thing.
It actually takes a bit more force than that in the right direction to make these things collapse. Once it gets past a certain point, it rapidly collapses though.
I can see it being ruined, by doing a partial rotation of the whole top, though not by just poking like that other anon.
you think the way it's there, it won't rotate at all at any direction?
maybe.
>built some hobbyist coocoo clocks of an blogpost he read on the internet >i'm smarter than /misc/
Lol homosexual get back in the workshop i bet you wear an apron too like a twink
Ok brainlet, let me lend you a hand.
The middle chain is in tension.
The table top and attached frame hang from that cable.
The cable is hung from the bottom frame.
Even if the centre of gravity was perfect, the slightest breeze would collapse the whole thing.
If it were to collapse, the table has to rotate in a direction.
If it rotates, at least one of the external chains goes into tension and prevents the rotation.
Due to construction tolerances, that table will be wobblier than your alcoholic granddaddy after his parkinsons diagnosis, but it won't collapse.
Congratulations, you can now pass the first year of an engineering degree.
what if you replaced the chains with bungee cords and stretched fabric across and made it into a hammock bed. It would be like a slightly less impractical water bed. How is this not already a thing?
>bungee cords
First of all, tension is key. It would be wobbly as hell and probably make you puke.
Second, have you seen the average American? Bungee cords aren't strong enough. You need pic related.
Right- what I'm saying is without the external chains the slightest breeze would collapse it, but with the external chains it is stable until you push it past its fulcrum, which is hard to do as one of the chains is in tension - however, it will be shaky pretty much all the time because the chains only provide resistance in tension, so they need to displace laterally in order to be drawn into tension, which isn't a great quality for a table.
>people unironically get confused by tensegrity structures
Why? Mentally remove a chain or two and visualize intuitively how it would collapse. Once you do that, it's obvious how the chains you removed keep it from collapsing and now you understand the whole thing on an intuitive level.
>Mentally remove a chain or two and visualize intuitively how it would collapse
Sorry, that's a counterfactual and that's not science. The table is the way it is. It makes no sense to talk about what if it were different. You can't rerun the universe.
>The table is the way it is. It makes no sense to talk about what if it were different. You can't rerun the universe.
Are you a black physics student by any chance?
tensegrity tables can also be made with steel wire, fishing line, and natural fibers like twine and rope. it has nothing to do with welded chains in this case.
The air. Another plane with an engine flies the glider up to an appropriate height and then releases it so it can glide.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Another plane with an engine flies the glider up to an appropriate height and then releases it so it can glide.
People were flying on gliders long before airplanes were invented.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I assumed we were talking about pic related, not the kind that a person just holds onto and jumps off a cliff with.
Since when do I need a plane with an engine to make my paper airplane fly?
In that instance your hand is the plane and your heart is the engine.
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Anonymous
>I assumed
That was only your first mistake, buddy.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Since when do I need a plane with an engine to make my paper airplane fly?
you must be low iq or female brained as in you do not care how the world works.
either way i recommend you learn to weld and put together that exact desk to remedy your mental shortcomings
Oh I'm always playing, I have a stupid number of hours in it. The 'advanced' building tool settings they added were a godsend for what you can do when you know how
Interestingly it doesn't seem to help much, since you have to decrease the size of the 'base' holding it down. Putting them towards the middle sideways as well just increases the issue.
The only way you'll realistically make it better is, very simply, adding more chains.
what if you swap out the vertical corner chains for diagonal?
Although keep in mond, Besiege objects are very floppy compared to real ones.
Actually now I say that, I might go back and try it with more solid blocks. Gimme a minute
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Although keep in mond, Besiege objects are very floppy compared to real ones.
Actually now I say that, I might go back and try it with more solid blocks. Gimme a minute
Eh, did it, same results. Maybe a sim where the ropes/chains aren't stretchy would help. Ah well.
Can you control tension? Because more tension = more stability.
The table in the meme is not fake, and it is not going to collapse. The chains are strong enough to hold the table together, and the loose sections are not going to move enough to cause the table to collapse.
The table is a simple example of a truss structure. A truss is a structure that is made up of a series of triangles. The triangles are strong because they are rigid and cannot be easily deformed. The chains in the meme are acting like the members of a truss, and they are holding the table together.
The table in the meme is not the most efficient design, but it is a functional design. It is a good example of how engineers can use their knowledge and skills to solve problems in creative ways.
Here are some other reasons why the table in the meme is not going to collapse:
The chains are evenly spaced, which helps to distribute the weight evenly.
The chains are made of a strong material, such as steel.
The loose sections of the table are not very heavy.
The table is not being subjected to any large forces, such as wind or earthquakes.
So, while the table in the meme may look like it should collapse, it is actually a stable and functional design.
but it's clearly a photoshoop and things like this can't really exist except if they're welded or an optical illusion,
I appreciate your attempt at explaining but really in the same camp as saying stuff like "crystal energy and vibrations can change your life because it amplifies your innate energy especially if you wear a magnetic bracelet"
Think of it this way, it can't go down because the tension in the middle chain stops it from doing that and it can't fall over either because the side chains can't be stretched either. and yes it probably wiggles if only just a bit
>uneconomical and cuts into profits >not engineering
I don't think you've seen what happens when you give an engineer a concept and unlimited reign over a design
If you remove the chains on the right, it would fall while rotating clockwise. The extra chains prevent it.
counter-clockwise*
Makes sense now?
>but it would tip over!!!
That's what the other chains are for.
Too unstable. An ant could topple it.
That's what the corner chains are for.
Retards like you should be chained up for everybody's safety.
That's the point.
kek. i love threads like this. You never know when anons will put effort into thinking about small shit like this
gp
Ok brainlet, let me lend you a hand.
The middle chain is in tension.
The table top and attached frame hang from that cable.
The cable is hung from the bottom frame.
Even if the centre of gravity was perfect, the slightest breeze would collapse the whole thing.
If it were to collapse, the table has to rotate in a direction.
If it rotates, at least one of the external chains goes into tension and prevents the rotation.
Due to construction tolerances, that table will be wobblier than your alcoholic granddaddy after his parkinsons diagnosis, but it won't collapse.
Congratulations, you can now pass the first year of an engineering degree.
you sound really gay and I'm a senior engineer
As a senior engineer you're quite experienced in things that sound really gay then?
>checks out
>you can now pass the first year of an engineering degree.
now do it with lagrangian multipliers
>the slightest breeze would collapse the whole thing.
It actually takes a bit more force than that in the right direction to make these things collapse. Once it gets past a certain point, it rapidly collapses though.
have webm pseuds
why is he black?
Engineer you know.
that pavement ape is smarter than 99.9% of LULZ posters, since they're all just /misc/ users
(I'm the 0.1%, from LULZ)
>built some hobbyist coocoo clocks of an blogpost he read on the internet
>i'm smarter than /misc/
Lol homosexual get back in the workshop i bet you wear an apron too like a twink
>t. wears a labcoat with anus access cutout
Being smarter than /misc/ is not a high bar to clear.
he's tamil indian
When you're blind, everyone is black
my text-to-speech tells me you're a nagger
Even though his mom is a blonde haired blue eyed Aryan princess, his dad is a black 100% African. You have to go back.
>pseuds
>vid behaves exactly as anon describes
What did he mean by this?
>i was only pretending
fuck off retard
Mad coz bad
Obviously fake
probably stole that rig
what if you replaced the chains with bungee cords and stretched fabric across and made it into a hammock bed. It would be like a slightly less impractical water bed. How is this not already a thing?
>bungee cords
First of all, tension is key. It would be wobbly as hell and probably make you puke.
Second, have you seen the average American? Bungee cords aren't strong enough. You need pic related.
my brain isn't working
please explain
kek don't listen to the other idiots here it's photoshopped
Right- what I'm saying is without the external chains the slightest breeze would collapse it, but with the external chains it is stable until you push it past its fulcrum, which is hard to do as one of the chains is in tension - however, it will be shaky pretty much all the time because the chains only provide resistance in tension, so they need to displace laterally in order to be drawn into tension, which isn't a great quality for a table.
main reason it would be shit functionally, is that it relies too much on the chains holding it, one breaking would ruin it.
People always fall for this trick kek
israelites should be holocausted
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braess's_paradox
It does wiggle.
This picture was taken in Australia gravity works backwards there.
It could be done with only four chains if they had one in the middle of the front and one in the middle of the back of the table.
You could do it with three chains if you put the center of mass past the suspending chain.
>people unironically get confused by tensegrity structures
Why? Mentally remove a chain or two and visualize intuitively how it would collapse. Once you do that, it's obvious how the chains you removed keep it from collapsing and now you understand the whole thing on an intuitive level.
>Mentally remove a chain or two and visualize intuitively how it would collapse
Sorry, that's a counterfactual and that's not science. The table is the way it is. It makes no sense to talk about what if it were different. You can't rerun the universe.
>The table is the way it is. It makes no sense to talk about what if it were different. You can't rerun the universe.
Are you a black physics student by any chance?
think what would happen if you applied a downward force on it
imagine if the two chains in the middle would be connect to a ceiling instead. Structuraly it's the same thing.
This table wobbles a lot though.
So are the corner chains not taking any substantial load? Just keeping it straight?
The short chains take all of the load. The corner chains stabilize (upward pull if the table were to rotate)
Chains can be welded.
pretty sure this is what's happening
tensegrity tables can also be made with steel wire, fishing line, and natural fibers like twine and rope. it has nothing to do with welded chains in this case.
chains conserve momentum
>cancel gravity
chains are yoked
LULZ btfo!
So this is the power of room temperature superconductors.
What is tension? Also, make way for an actual funny meme.
>phoneposter
It won't work. It's fake.
*comes in and punts the table at this point*
wont work dummy
I can see it being ruined, by doing a partial rotation of the whole top, though not by just poking like that other anon.
literally wont work, the table rests on only 2 chains, everything else is for balance
you think the way it's there, it won't rotate at all at any direction?
maybe.
Is there just so much balanced tension from the chains that it keeps it from falling in on itself?
okay guys, will it take off?
No, it has no engine.
How else does the treadmill move if not because of some kind of motor?
t. Glider denier
Gliders don't take off from the ground.
What do they take off from, then?
The air. Another plane with an engine flies the glider up to an appropriate height and then releases it so it can glide.
>Another plane with an engine flies the glider up to an appropriate height and then releases it so it can glide.
People were flying on gliders long before airplanes were invented.
I assumed we were talking about pic related, not the kind that a person just holds onto and jumps off a cliff with.
In that instance your hand is the plane and your heart is the engine.
>I assumed
That was only your first mistake, buddy.
Since when do I need a plane with an engine to make my paper airplane fly?
you must be low iq or female brained as in you do not care how the world works.
either way i recommend you learn to weld and put together that exact desk to remedy your mental shortcomings
The obligatory soundtrack of the thread.
It can't fall down because the short chain would get tense, and it can't raise or tilt because the long chains would get tense
/Thread
TENSEGRITY BIPLANES FUCKING WHEN?
well, LULZ?
what are the chemical compositions of the chains and table surface?
The table is made of diamonds, the chains are made of car
modern car or OG car?
(ie. plastic or steel?)
Wall
Oh boy, an opportunity to go mess around in Besiege to show off a mechanical principle again
wow, someone else who plays. this game is so fun, I love building vanilla airplanes and trying different propeller designs.
Oh I'm always playing, I have a stupid number of hours in it. The 'advanced' building tool settings they added were a godsend for what you can do when you know how
what if you swap out the vertical corner chains for diagonal?
Interestingly it doesn't seem to help much, since you have to decrease the size of the 'base' holding it down. Putting them towards the middle sideways as well just increases the issue.
The only way you'll realistically make it better is, very simply, adding more chains.
Although keep in mond, Besiege objects are very floppy compared to real ones.
Actually now I say that, I might go back and try it with more solid blocks. Gimme a minute
Eh, did it, same results. Maybe a sim where the ropes/chains aren't stretchy would help. Ah well.
Can you control tension? Because more tension = more stability.
Unfortunately you can't stop the ropes from being springy.
Like
says, you can tighten them but there's always a lot of spring to them
>engineering is awesome
That's compact, you can slot the chairs into the gaps
Everything looks to be hanging on the middle chain with side chains for stabilizering
The table in the meme is not fake, and it is not going to collapse. The chains are strong enough to hold the table together, and the loose sections are not going to move enough to cause the table to collapse.
The table is a simple example of a truss structure. A truss is a structure that is made up of a series of triangles. The triangles are strong because they are rigid and cannot be easily deformed. The chains in the meme are acting like the members of a truss, and they are holding the table together.
The table in the meme is not the most efficient design, but it is a functional design. It is a good example of how engineers can use their knowledge and skills to solve problems in creative ways.
Here are some other reasons why the table in the meme is not going to collapse:
The chains are evenly spaced, which helps to distribute the weight evenly.
The chains are made of a strong material, such as steel.
The loose sections of the table are not very heavy.
The table is not being subjected to any large forces, such as wind or earthquakes.
So, while the table in the meme may look like it should collapse, it is actually a stable and functional design.
but it's clearly a photoshoop and things like this can't really exist except if they're welded or an optical illusion,
I appreciate your attempt at explaining but really in the same camp as saying stuff like "crystal energy and vibrations can change your life because it amplifies your innate energy especially if you wear a magnetic bracelet"
Thank you chat gpt
its being held up by the chains in the middle, the chains on the side stop it from tipping
tensegrity tables are an artistic piece than furniture because its wobbly as fuck
All the weight is being held by the short chains in the middle. The other ones just keep the table above the base
Think of it this way, it can't go down because the tension in the middle chain stops it from doing that and it can't fall over either because the side chains can't be stretched either. and yes it probably wiggles if only just a bit
pushing it from the side would literally topple that mf
troll physic
ITT: retards filtered by high-school level physics.
LULZ shows its true IQ once again.
dude?
Meds.
why so dumb?
that's not engineering
that table is uneconomical and cuts into profits
that one looks like an art student designed it
>uneconomical and cuts into profits
>not engineering
I don't think you've seen what happens when you give an engineer a concept and unlimited reign over a design