I'm sick of this meme that "every single man has the potential to attract females as long as they put in the effort". Sorry but not all men are created equal. The reality is girls only want you if you have a cute face. No girl wants to wake up next to a face they're not attracted to. People either like you or they don't. There are no "life hacks" or "cheat codes" you can enter to change this. Someone either loves you or they don't. Your genes determine this, not your actions. This is why we constantly see women with abusive men.
1 is working out
2 is just doing steroids and sitting around and cooming so much you go bald.
Nah, I'm pretty sure the second one only tried lifting because he went bald. Also doesn't look like steroids.
I love how you can perfectly map out the thought process of what this person was thinking as they made this post.
>Heh, this guy doesn't Believe in self-improving! Ha, I'll just tell him to work out, that'll prove that any man can be attractive if he tries
>Oh wait, that guy clearly does work out and he's still fugly, uhh shit what do I blame for that?
>Well he's also bald, Wait but if I point that out that's also just playing into the idea that you can't control your own attractiveness. Oh I know, I'll make up some bullshit and say HE made himself go bald by doing something bad, like uhh, masturbating too much!
>Yep, self improvement wins again! Right guy could totally be just as attractive as the left guy if he just hadn't masturbated so much! If you just don't masturbate you'll never go bald! I'll believe anything as long as it means I never have to change my just world fallacy influence worldviews.
Here's a better idea. Stop being a mentally ill narcissistic psychopathic self centered little shitbag and women will give you a chance. But no, you'll be alone forever.
Go ahead and try to make a dating app account using that guys picture and see how many women are interested in.
Surely as long as you prove you're not a "mentally ill narcissistic psychopathic self centered little shitbag" you'll be swarming in attention right?
Yes, I've had tons of matches with women who identify as men or nonbinary on dating apps it's not that hard to get laid
Yes because dating apps are where normal people go to find meaninful partnerships and not booty calls
If the left guy was 5'2 and the right one 6'2, he would be more attractive to women.
Height is the most important thing in male looks and it's not even close.
I can already tell left is no where near 5'2 from the length of his arms, right is much shorter, keep coping tho
Did I say he was? You know what a hypothetical is?
They both should be proud and anon should suck a T-Rex cock.
Then what about dudes who are ugly but strong or masculine. You're honestly telling me there's women out there who don't go for rough looking dudes who look like killers? Hell, there's women for real serial killers. Women have their own fetishes just like men, it's not just beauty that matters.
A handsome man that acts like a beta, will be treated like a beta. That's how femboys exist. Prove me wrong.
I always remember how two girls in school I was friends with told me that they were in a restaurant once and there was a really good looking waiter. They instantly had a crush on him and couldn't wait until he came over.
And when he came to serve them, he had a really high pitched and unmanly voice and they instantly lost interest and laughed about him. Was brutal.
Femboys are mostly gay, e boys are straight and are popular with young women
>e boys are straight and are popular with young women
That's not really beta is it? Beta is not being popular with women, that's like the only requirement to be a beta.
Beta is a word genetic deadends use to swim in a fantasy fiction land where they are winners and the "handsome men who are beta" are losing homosexuals, it's a realm of fiction in which people who are more attractive than the said deadend are homosexuals and he's the manliest man around, keep coping you subhuman, you won't change a thing
Have you seen gay men? They often look like chads and yet are completely uninterested in foids, so this is right
Do you never go outside or what. Most couples are looksmatched or the woman is more attractive.
The one on the right had some success with dating apps and has pics that were rated decently on photofeeler. Here's a better pic of him.
>beard fraudung
>Hat frauding
What women like in order of importance:
1. Face
2. Body
3. Manliness
4. Social presence
Face is pretty much a prerequisite, you don't have to be extremely attractive but you need to look at least average. If you're ugly stop reading here it's over.
Body and manliness are good additions that can increase your attractiveness in the eyes of many women.
By social presence I mean being popular and respected in your community, having a big social circle and a rich social life.
>having a big social circle and a rich social life.
this seems like such a pain in the ass
It's a proof of your neurotypicality. For normies, maintaining a social life is as natural as breathing.
I forgot the most evident and important criteria of all: height. If you're too short (like <5'7) it's over.
Height > Face > Hair > Body > Income > Personality
Just height >
There is nothing else. Only height, that's it.
A morbidly obese, homeless 6'5 guy is more attractive than a good looking 5'5 billionaire.
Will the short guy get more chicks? Yes, but they still find the tall guy more attractive, it would just be stupid to not use the billionaire for his resources. If the homeless guy showered, they would still cheat with him.
That's a fact.
im tall and sub2 in the face and still khhv
see
If you're ugly it's over
You didn't even try. I guarantee you, when you walk down the street and see 100 women, there's at least 20 that get wet from your height alone.
i tried both tinder and real life, nothing worked out
Tinder is bad for ugly people. If you have another redeeming factor like height, you should only try real life as your physical presence will outweigh your face.
How did you try in real life. Let me guess, you put yourself in the friendzone for months or years and then tried to slowly crawl out of it?
>try in real life
What does this even mean? Approaching women at Starbucks and at bars? thats sexual harassment if you aint chad.
You are chad if you are tall.
No it means having a social life and meeting girls through your social circle
weird. that aint how my mom and dad met.
Why are you even asking if you already know the answer smartass
you must be like >6'5 to make women wet by height alone
if you're 6'1 your height won't compensate your ugly face
>There is nothing else. Only height, that's it.
Fake and ghey.
Tall and ugly = over.
Height is a bonus. As long as you are as tall as her, it's fine.
>I have never felt the touch of a woman
edited for accuracy
I've probably fucked more women than you've talked to in your entire life but ok
>I've probably fapped more times today than you've fapped in your entire life but ok
FTFY
there is no order of things women like
just know that one flaw is enough to eliminate you
Someone that looks like OP's left guy (very attractive face and body) could be a weak wimp with no friends and still pull.
Even if he had a weak body he'd still be successful.
>Women just want a guy who has his shit together.
The guy on the left stays home all day, lives with his mom, unemployed, showers once a week, dropout, smokes weed, plays video games, thinks about suicide constantly, refers to women as bitches, uses ebonics even though he's white, doesn't have a car, thinks reading is gay, never won a fight in his life but talks mad shit, has a 4 inch dick, has erectile dysfunction due to drugs, has fucked up fetishes like rape/foot/stepmom/teen, would run away if he got a girl pregnant, only cares about his pleasure not the woman's, has no idea how female orgasms even work yet claims he makes girls cum 20 times in a row, and has no real hobbies besides playing Call of duty and smoking pot, everything he doesn't like is "gay".
The guy on the right graduated from college, has a 6 figure income, lifts weights 5 times a week, plays sports, showers 2 times a day, uses proper English when he texts, knows MMA and Brazilian jiu-jitsu but doesn't brag about it, doesn't refer to women as bitches, owns a car, has an 8 inch dick, has his own house, knows how to perform cunnilingus and make females orgasm, is open to having kids, doesn't use drugs (he might moderately drink alcohol at social events).
Who do you think girls are gonna choose? Who do you think normies would say looks more trustworthy, honest, hard working, and moral? The guy on the left every single time because face is everything. Even the MILFs would choose him. If the guy on the right manages to find a girlfriend she's cheating on him with the guy on the left and she's only with him for his money. Women don't choose men based on their actions and lifestyles. Face is all that matters. Nothing is "earned" in this life. "Free will" is a lie. "Meritocracy" is a lie. It's all fake and rigged. Women choose who the israelites tell them to choose. It is what it is. Stop lying to people though.
this left guy is proof of this
Height > Face > all
You are insane man
A loot of women would pick the guy on the right, he is probably a bit too huge but the way you talked him up as well does matter. Plus his face ain't that bad, even looks good, Y'all are crazy.
go make a tinder and try to get 1 match. you wont.
Is your favorite color your favorite color because of the "work" it put in?
the guy on the left is gay nigga use someone else lmao
>The guy on the left stays home all day, lives with his mom, unemployed, showers once a week, dropout, smokes weed, plays video games, thinks about suicide constantly, refers to women as bitches, uses ebonics even though he's white, doesn't have a car, thinks reading is gay, never won a fight in his life but talks mad shit, has a 4 inch dick, has erectile dysfunction due to drugs, has fucked up fetishes like rape/foot/stepmom/teen, would run away if he got a girl pregnant, only cares about his pleasure not the woman's, has no idea how female orgasms even work yet claims he makes girls cum 20 times in a row, and has no real hobbies besides playing Call of duty and smoking pot, everything he doesn't like is "gay".
Source?
>The guy on the right graduated from college, has a 6 figure income, lifts weights 5 times a week, plays sports, showers 2 times a day, uses proper English when he texts, knows MMA and Brazilian jiu-jitsu but doesn't brag about it, doesn't refer to women as bitches, owns a car, has an 8 inch dick, has his own house, knows how to perform cunnilingus and make females orgasm, is open to having kids, doesn't use drugs (he might moderately drink alcohol at social events).
Source?
>If the guy on the right manages to find a girlfriend she's cheating on him with the guy on the left and she's only with him for his money
Source?
Source: the kind of head canon incels need to make up to "justify" their lack of trying.
I do Muay Thai and workout 5 times a week, I practice piano daily, I go to the barber every 2 weeks, I have an active social life, still an incel. Meanwhile I know dudes who smoke weed daily and put 0 effort into anything but they still get laid all the time because theyre tall and handsome
how many women are involved in this active social life of yours
Damn thats crazy, lots of hot babes at your muay thai gym right?
It's got nothing to do with israelites, germans knew israelites used money to get women but women preferred german men's looks
As a biological woman with normal values (ie. Hate casual sex, only slept with the man I married, want a long term stable relationship for life, have my own job and hobbies) I would pick the guy on the right everytime. I personally like a beefy build over a twig. I know women who prefer the K-pop twink look too, but would t date a loser of a twink like you described.
Genes and actions actually. I'm unfortunately short and not so rich but I have everything else going for me enough to fuck mid hoes. Darktriadmaxx, hit the gym, mew, learn not to dress like an autistic retard, use drugs, and wear heightboosting shoes, you'll thank me later
>use drugs
Wtf
>wear heightboosting shoes
No, I refuse to do that. Being short is not a defect that needs to be fixed. Every homosexual that wears those shoes or worse, gets the leg lengthening surgery, just feeds into the narrative that it's wrong to be short. Which is so innately self hating and destructive.
The drugs and alcohol are to have fun and get a foid into the mood so her dumbass is more agreeable. Make sure you have good friends who can back you up and distract her friends so you can be with her alone if you wanna get your dick wet. Also height is important, you need to maxx our your intimidation level
Darktriadmaxxing is necessary for we don't live in a perfect utopia but one of strife. You need to learn to stop being a little bitch and to not let anyone push you around, be angry at the world for leading you to your lowest to motivate you to rise above it
>The drugs and alcohol are to have fun and get a foid into the mood so her dumbass is more agreeable.
Maybe 1-2 glasses wine. But I wouldn't want her drunk. Or high on some drugs. I want her to want me with a clear head, that's a better strategy to guarantee that she will come back to fuck again and doesn't just see me as a regret when she was not thinking clearly.
>Also height is important, you need to maxx our your intimidation level
Maxxing has to be something real. Faking your height is not real maxxing to me and would feel unmanly. If that foid doesn't like me for who I am, she can fuck off.
You get your dick wet to get experience and status from decent mids so then the hot hoes will be curious about you. Also you're a boring homosexual if you don't know how to have fun in a party with some edibles, telling it as it is. If you want easy pussy, just follow my aforementioned guide so you can get away with it otherwise don't complain about staying a virgin. Love is a scam and only stagnates your growth to the top, be above that fairytale bullshit so you will claw your way up to success
I'm not a virgin. But if I was, I would rather stay one than to take drugs. As long as I live, no drug will ever enter my body, I don't even consume caffeine.
If you're that stuck up on that slave morality bullshit for yourself, then just use it on the foid dumbass. Talk to her as she'll be distracted from thinking about how much she's drunk. If not, blackmail some crackwhore or some bitch who broke up with her bf for a quick pump and dump. Foids have not treat any of you nice from what it looks like from here so why should you be nice? Like it or not, evolution favors the unga bunga method so quit being retarded about arbitrary shit
But I don't take drugs for the purpose of not being a slave, how is that slave morality? You know what the definition of being a slave is? When something else controls you. And that's what an addiction does.
And if you take drugs to get pussy, you're also addicted to pussy. You have not one, but two masters.
And btw, stop using the term slave morality, you clearly didn't read Nietzsche.
And you believe that some mid bitch who would ruin your gains and leech off of you for clout is any better? I was only offering advice in the sense of how to get laid, not get a relationship as most of you just suffer from a lack of pussy. Not my fault OP was a retard who didn't specify anything. Not everyone is a dork who tries so hard to remain at the bottom of a hierarchy so get off my dick shithead
Look, I said to you that I won't ruin my health with drugs to get some crackwhore pussy. I don't care about anything else.
If I like a girl, I tell her that I wanna fuck her. If she doesn't reciprocate, then I move on to the next one. I play no games, I don't try to manipulate and I won't shorten my life span by decades by taking drugs. You do you, I won't stop you from destroying yourself.
"Playing games" is how you get to the top and be seen as an unattainable god to these women in the scene, sorry to break it to you. Honestly you don't even have to consume anything yourself, just get her to do it so she'll be more agreeable and then later on will brag to her friends. If she's too annoying, leave or just keep her on a backburner for later. Overall, just have fun
What the fuck do you know what women want or what they see as an unattainable god. You literally walk around with disguised high heels and have to make women unconscious with drugs to get a sniff of their pussies.
You are in no place to give advice to anyone, this is just horrible.
Status is important to a man as looks. Sometimes cheats are needed to compensate for the weakest links but for the most part, you have to completely change yourself physically and mentally to elevate yourself to reap rewards. Being naive to the current social climate and acting like an autistic retard doesn't offer results so what should someone do? Adapt, that's what. Learn to be more social and use whatever is available to your advantage, don't stress yourself out too much on ethics if you want results
I agree with learning to be more social or if you are a fat slob, to get fit and healthy. But those are real things. If you change, then you REALLY are more social, you REALLY are more fit.
But wearing high shoes is faking it. I won't ever do that. That's how I was born and if someone has a problem with my height, they can suck my dick, simple as.
>hurrr hurrr hurrr 420 blaze it smoke weed erryday that's why I, um, I, um, uhhhhh
Boring slave morality and you definitly have a single digit body count if you have any at all, ngmi
>not being stoned all the time makes you a slave, bro. I swear, bro, spend all your money on edibles and all your time zonked out, bro, then you'll be free. Look at me, I'm stoned all day and I, uh, I, ummmm. Where's my chocolate, mom? Mom? MOOOOOM?! Where is my chocolate?!
You should've been bullied more in school and maybe then you wouldn't be such a virgin loser homosexual lmao
>if you don't do weed you have to be an, uh ,a, uh, a virgin or a loser or something. I can't remember what I was going to say.
If you remain bitchless and a fat slob, that's on you. Just saying, I ain't wrong lol
>only, like, dudes that BLAZE IT 420 have sex and are thin, bro.
>MOM! MOOOOOOOOM! WHERE ARE THE DORITOS?!?! AND THE ICE CREAM?!?!?!
I didn't need to know your home life with your family, not everyone still lives with their mother at 30 unlike you jobless freak lol. But I'm speaking facts, learn to be less of a down syndrome autist next time and get some sunlight
>only stoners have jobs and girls and are slim and, uh, and, uh, smart, and, like, uuuuuhhhhhhhhh
>anyway, who else has the munchies, bro?
https://www.esquire.com/lifestyle/money/news/a43504/new-study-losers-stoners/
You do know you don't actually have to smoke weed yourself to get a bitch agreeable enough to get your dick wet right? Make her do it and learn to actually talk to people with confidence. Your choice sped
>"The only way I can get laid is to bribe ugly fat stoner bitches and hope they put out for me in return
FTFY
Save time and money and just use an escort, stoner loser
You've probably never been to college parties or been invited have you? Not even to a bar? Wow you just made me remember not everybody is as young as men or has a future, thanks for the free motivation so I don't ever become a bitter old fuck like you lol
they're all undercover cops, no thx officer
I smoke pretty regularly, eat healthy, have a bunch of hobbies and a social life. Smoking weed and still doing other stuff isnt some impossible task
>I use drugs so that means they are good
clever
Who are you quoting doe? What are you yapping about bro?
>I am a total newfag
FTFY
Im not the one who doesnt know how to quote doe
>duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuur *drools* huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrr *shits own pants*
FTFY
you think greentexts are only for direct quotes???
lurk moar, fagget
They certainely arent for strawman arguments
I do all of this except darktriadmaxxing. Im just not built to be like that, probably because my father was like that and I know exactly how much pain it causes and how pointless it ultimately is.
How many pictures of shirtless gym rats do you have, OP?
The entirety of OP's thoughts
>"I want the guy on the left to fuck me, but I don't want the guy on the right to fuck me"
GB2
JFC.
The anti-improver guy never sleeps.
All he does is spam /LULZ/ with pictures of guys he thinks are hot, all day every day.
We get it - OP likes scrawny femboys and dislikes musclemen and wants more sissified men for him to lust over, the homosexual
The truth is in the middle. Most people have room for improvement and are just crying for attention, but some people (like picrel) are genuinely fucked.
you goofy losers never cease to amaze me.
Guys a lot uglier than him get fucked and get married.
HOW TO NOT BE AN INCEL IN ONE STEP:
don't be insane
wrong, choose insanity. go off the fucking walls.
Incels obsess over changing their bodies for some reason when people don't want to be near them for their personalities, something which they can't (or refuse to) change. Never mind dating, guys don't even wanna hang out with incels due to how shitty their personalities are, or are they now gonna change the narrative that "actually men also only want friends that are hot" lol probably
You're right, if only we had good personalities like ted bundie or tyrone the gang member we'd be swimming in pussy
ted bundy and tyrone the gang member wouldnt have been able to be who they were without charm and good personalities. having a good personality doesnt make you a morally good or a bad person, they are completely separate things. "thou shalt have a good personality" isnt in the fucking ten commandments
>thinks "charm" and how people percieve you isn't heavily influenced by looks
oh no no no
Everyone knows the most important things to women are status and personality.
Tall good looking autists die alone
Nah they're literally worshipped by asian women
Reminder to ignore the sociopaths in here. They want attention and you are giving it to them
Not my fault people get so triggered over the truth. It's fun fucking with losers when you're bored for free (you)s, try it sometime
You're judging women by men's standards. Hot women casually fuck dogs dude. You've got to get it through your head that women are totally different creatures than men in this respect. I don't blame you for not understanding this yet - it's too far out there for most guys to consider. The sooner you understand how women *actually* think, the better. You'll see them in a totally different - extremely weird - light. You'll get more pussy if you can handle how fucking bizarre women really are.
So I guess you get a lot of pussy? As you have totally figured women out.
nta but true confidence overcomes almost anything, even if you're fat. if you want to bring it down to evolutionary psychology, humans are social creatures, a male's charisma and ability to charm, inspire, influence and even order other humans to do what he wants them to has an even bigger influence on his genetic fitness than huge muscles and physical fitness. incels don't get this because you have to get to a place where even the prospect of rejection literally doesn't affect you at all. and it is very difficult to get there naturally. only time ive ever managed it was when i was doing coke lmao
This! It's not about tall, money, looks, etc. It's way more about:
>presentable
>charming
/thread
"charming" is a really, really fucking tall order if you havent had a lifetime of positive reinforcement coupled with a genetically excellent dopamine reinforcement system
Yes but still have a big rejection rate.
ive met dozens of women over the years who have an uncontrollable fetish for obese hairy men. they are out there. you just won't find them on fucking tinder, and the hottest one was maybe a 6
All the women I've met like that were all trans
extremely online chudmen often have this problem where the only women they truly enjoy talking and can bond with are mtf trans. it's obvious why, but it still indicates the universe has a sense of humor
It's going to be a very good day when Gaza chads break into your home and put two bullets in your head you little israelite. Day in, day out, the same demoralizing kike bait spammed all the time.
The israelite hate the blackpill because it means fewer men participating in capitalism
>implying guy on the right isn't more attractive now than he was before
>implying guy on the left didn't work out
Kys op
self improving is the most evil lie being told to incels right now. its actually worse than the old "girls care about your personality" crap
at least you get *some* benefits out of self improving regardless of whether or not you get the girl
Selfimprovemaxxx is cringe. Being yourself is basde.
OP you are just coping because youre a lazy fat piece of shit who doesnt wanna take responsibility for his own failures
my genes suck yet my body count is in the 40s. it 100% has to do with the fact that i put a ton of effort in socialization,comedy/stand up, and being the life of a party. i also read lots of books to have a wide understanding of many subjects.
youre a loser because you choose to be. youre a loser because you are lazy and complacent and want sympathy for not being given handouts. news flash, homosexual, 99% of men are not chad. 99% of women are not stacy. we are mostly just doing our best to live our lives to the fullest and not waste them. you on the other hand want us to accept your evil delusional eugenicist world view because you are a worthless fucking loser
cope and kys fag
jestermaxxer boasting about sticking his dick in a bunch of ugly diseased roasties. whats the average age and weight of women at your gay ass unfunny comedy clubs where the entire set is "fuck trump, oops i forgot to tell a joke" and every homosexual is rolling in the aisles