I'm graduating from cs this year
how fucked am I?
I'm graduating from cs this year. how fucked am I?
I'm graduating from cs this year
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>He fell for the CS meme
Fellow EE bros, we got another one lads.
I actually was in EE but swtiched
CS is fine, but I think EE/CE would have less pajeets.
>EE/CE would have less pajeets
Pajeets cannot into mathematics past 1st year. On Day 1, my engineering classes had some cute blonde girls. Quickly, they disappeared.
>my engineering classes
KEK. If you do EE/CE and don't end up in defense, then everywhere you go will be flooded with H1Bs from India. I literally work this field you dumb zoomer.
You couldn't even get past Fourier transforms, stop larping.
Another cs retard filtered by Laplace transforms kek
I was kind of interested in EE but my university has it in a completely different faculty and just taking a few courses "to see if you like it" is impossible
If you've no opposition to being a zogbot, the DoD is getting rid of 8570 and a CS degree mets the pre-reqs for most cyber positions.
I graduated last year, double major in CS and economics and am currently unemployed. I don't see the rush to find a job, as long as you have some prior experience. Start contributing to open source projects, do not a gap develop, keep yourself productively busy while getting ready to find a job. The reality is that the market is cooling down and getting a job might get more competitive but it's still there, we've seen massive layoffs but I think that's a nonissue given you truly learned and have a drive to continue to learn. I'm busy reading papers from arxiv, I'll get a job when I get tired of thinking on paper and pencil and need to afford a H100. Do not let people demoralize you anon, you will have a job when the time comes but it will take effort on your part. Find an internship, build your network, connect with as many classmans as you can before graduating, keep up with them via linkedin, befriend some recruiters and so on. Check out all the who is hiring threads on HN, great place to start just to get ideas of what the market is like
jesus fucking christ
what's wrong? do you really believe the situation is hopeless? there's always work to be done, learn to find current value and meet it. OP graduated with a degree, not some bootcamp, that has some value already even if you wish to be hyperbolic and go muh oh no AI, it's all over, work is still there and you can find it, the how is just going to change.
I respond bad to such optimistic outlooks and thought you were trolling, don't mind me. I don't disagree.
Degrees are alright, but when everyone has degrees, no one has one. Finding a niche is far better
Sure that's a different issue, to learn to differentiate yourself from the competition but there are always ways to create your own unique competitive advantage. OP wants to know if it's hopeless or not, the answer is no, no matter what anyone says. So we move to this new issue, that everyone has a degree and so their value is trivialized demand goes down. Well what would you do? I think you can focus on building your social connections, no everyone has those even if they grinded degrees, but you can always develop them. Learn to connect with your professors and engage with their research, not everyone has done that. Learn to improve your own outlook, to enjoy learning, optimize all other aspects of your life and you will see it that there is hope. You can focus on your niche as well, see what they don't teach in standard undegraduate curriculum. A niche I see today, isn't web dev, or AI, or game dev, data science, lots of people enjoy those, so what else is important but is fallening between the cracks, overlooked. Well how about looking at the markets, what are the top 100 tech companies building, what skills are needed there, what research are they doing and so on. here's an exercise, try and email a CTO from a medium sized company and ask for their advice of what they think? Don't cold email them, it'll get ignored, but try and find ways to bridge that gap, maybe you show enthusiasm for their products or you write a review, or you meet them at a conference in person and ask them out for coffee. It's a great time for tech, but maybe not for the lazy
kys holy shjit
Well said, the best oppurtunites come from networking
You should always be in a rush to get a job when you are unemployed regardless of market conditions. Don't OD on copium and complacency
Why didn't you get a job during uni?
omega fucked. become a gay prostitutue if u want to survive
less fucked than anyone else
could be worse
Kek, this is me as well.
>do everything I'm supposed to
>grind learning shit
>major in the "safest path to upper-middle class' salary
>about to graduate
>the eternal boomer rug pulls my major right as I'm about to graduate
This hasn't happened yet though, there's dozens of web app jobs, legacy maintaining shitfucks and just corps looking for bodies. Layoffs were about fluff.
>dozens of jobs
>100,000's of laid-off fagmans competing with you
>AI got 10,000x better at programming this year
>Microsoft CEO already told us Computer Science is over and anyone dumb enough to study it now can expect to get paid like a tard-wrangler (45k /year)
Bro, it's over. I got rug pulled. I'm not even mad. I never expected anything good to happen to me anyway.
All I can say is no. Keep trying and just don't be a retard. LULZ obviously romanticizes the solo savant developer but that's not who companies look for. your sanity i won't vouch for though afterwards it's on you.
People at fagman aren't competing with new grads. They're looking for the unicorn jobs that pay the top 0.01% witch are extremely rare
Maybe 2 years ago, in 2023 people aren't as choosy.
Fact of the matter is someone at fagman isn't going to be applying to entry level new grad jobs
trickle down effects, idiot
if fagman cant get a job at google he'll go to boring f500
now normie cant get a job at f500 so he'll go to shitty no name company
now shitty no name companies have normies flooding their apps so they just scoop up a few desperate 1-2 yoe normies, leaving nothing for new grads
Actually not how it works
there's lots of jobs, but salaries are shit
you failed bc you chose a field solely on future economic outlook. if you aren't programming DNS servers in C in high school, then why did you even choose to study CS?
enjoy working minimum wage at Arby's for the rest of your life once AI replaces your profession entirely
Heh cs degrees are like history degrees muh dude. Good luck with that.
that's a man
the question you should ask is "why would anyone hire me"? If you can't find the answer then you're fucked.
I'm graduating this year as well but from software engineering (essentially the same thing as cs but less math and more codemonkey/web shit). LULZ has been making me want to kms lately with all the FUD. Really considering applying for a masters in AI at UT Austin some time after I graduate.
I have an SWE job coding in C (not embedded). Gonna be making 120 TC in Boston. I have friends working in quant making 375 base but I'm content with what I have.
t. ECE chad
same position as me except im in san jose. only offer of the season too.
I did the same 3 year agos, took me 9 months to find work with the initial pandemic panic, then I got laid off from that job a couple months ago. The market is absolutely shit tbh, I live in a pretty remote place and code monkey jobs are rare. I'm considering just getting a cozy nightshift job in a warehouse or something because I fucking hate doing code interviews again
grinding leetcode & applying to companies that have a 99.7% chance of ghosting or rejecting me makes me want to learn a trade
fucking hate my life
i love programming and i'm decent at it when given a chance, the issue is that there's just too much competition and not enough opportunity
cs grads, bootcampers, self taughts, remote indians, freelancers, white collar immigrants, h1bs
the industry is in a terrible state
terrible terrible terrible
my biggest issue is my fear for the future
how will i deal with something like this in 15-25 years when i need to raise and support a family? tech work is nice when it's possible, but when the industry struggles, it *really* fucks you in the ass
trades might be hard work, long hours, and not as lucrative as other fields, but at least i'll never need to worry about having a source if income
just the other day i ordered food, and i'm not joking or exaggerating when i say that the delivery driver was a former FAANG dev who's been struggling to find work for the last few months now
i made sure to leave him a generous tip, since i still have decent savings, but holy fuck, dude
i just hate what i'm feeling right now
i'll give myself another 6 months and at least 500 applications before i give up entirely
>but at least i'll never need to worry about having a source if income
Unless you get hurt and physically can't bust your ass hustling trades any more.
theres no way a former FAANG dev cant find a job. Unless he's like 50 or something in which case why would he even need a job anymore
nope, they're struggling too, unless they apply for junior roles, which fucks it over for everybody else
dozens of thousands of faangfags have been laid off, with most companies doing hiring freezes
each senior role has at least 200 applicants in my area, with an unspecified but significant portion being devs with valuable experience
it's completely fucked, all around the board
Every nagger with a computer and an internet connection decided they had to become coders within the last 3 years. That's all there is to it.
Even if FAGMAN hadn't imploded we would still have an employer's market at this point. Just way, way, way, WAY too many learn to code motherfuckers flooding the market.
Literally the most desirable job in the world.
It was destined to implode.
lmfao if you're competing with learn2coders and bootcampers for the same roles then you're doing it wrong. presumably you have a CS degree. so fucking use it, you tard. find a niche, then specialize. get good or die.
Don't listen to these seething crabs. I spammed 500 apps and had a SWE offer for 100k by the end of the month. This is with 2 YEARS of being a NEET after getting my CS degree.
How did you explain the gap
"I was dealing with health issues at that time"
You're fine if you're remotely competent
I'm doing an online BA in CS and graduate next year. Collaborative efforts are pretty much non-existent and I don't have any internships yet. Not exactly sure what to do.
About 18 months before your potential jobs are automated by GPT
someone spent time making this shit. such is a product of LULZ and in general internet decline. i fucking hate zoomers.
are you pajeet?
You're not totally fucked if you're gud at java.
First give me the source and then I'll answer you.