One of my friend joined of these buddhist cults. They forced him to stop all connection with friends and family. Few years later he quit the cult and now he lives with his parents who are shamed of him.
You either made this up or mistook Buddhism for Jehova's Witnessery. Buddhist monasticism is very strict about requiring monks to not sever ties with friends and especially with family.
I talk to city monks all the time at my local temples. They eat twice a day (The Vinaya code says you're only allowed to have a meal at dawn and fast until the next dawn), own money and even request scholarships from my university. They claim that without breaking those precepts life in the modern city would be impossible, so they leave those rules to forest monks.
they can't get jobs, but they can study at universities
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I see, thanks for clarifying that. What would a buddhist monk need to learn that his temple can't already teach?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>What would a buddhist monk need to learn that his temple can't already teach?
Reaching nibbana can only be done through self-effort first of all. The temple can give you guidance, but it is you who should follow the path with your pacing and modes. Become an island unto yourself is the fundamental teaching that the historical Buddha left to his disciples before his death and final nibbana.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
That didn't really answer my question. Are you implying they're taking classes on buddhism at their university?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
the young abbot who operates at my temple is studying languages but has a degree in buddhist studies
because buddhism transcends the idea of the creator God. Brahma was conquered by the Buddha, it's something you christians can't get through your head.
because buddhism transcends the idea of the creator God. Brahma was conquered by the Buddha, it's something you christians can't get through your head.
I disagree. What buddhists claim is unknowable, we Christians know.
The effects of buddhist meditation on the mind have been proven by modern science far more than prayers to a Canaanite monotheistic God. The Old Testament has already demonstrated well enough that YHWH is, in fact, a mortal deity subjected to passions and able to be defeated by other deities exactly as the buddhist scriptures said.
Science can't prove God exists. You fail to understand that prayer to God won't be answered unless you yourself are in alignment with what He is about. He is a living God, not an automated force. God in the Bible cannot be defeated. What you see in the OT is God leading people to fulfill a promise He made. God uses these people to fulfill that promise. If God directly interfered, not battle would've been lost.
I have read the Bible, many times in fact. God did not lose that battle. The people that God commanded lost it. If you read the rest of the OT you would see that God is capable of shooting fire down from the sky and causing great acts of natural disasters. If God wanted to, He could've easily intervened and done away with these iron chariots. You just don't understand what's going on in the Bible and you've made that clear. I'm not going to claim I know anything about buddhism but yea, you're full of shit man.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I'm not going to claim I know anything about buddhism but yea, you're full of shit man.
Then go and study buddhism, no one is denying you permission to read the Pali Canon.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
That's the thing, I don't need to. I dabbled before I found my faith, and what I found in my faith was something no other belief system I tried could ever provide.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>That's the thing, I don't need to.
Then don't be surprised when you lose an argument around buddhists.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
What argument? The one you intentionally ignored and skipped to the end to respond to? Read the rest of my post and respond to that as well.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I answered to the argument in full and even provided a brief history of the YHWH cult. It goes without saying that Gods are living beings like everything else composed of the five aggregates. But the God of the abrahamic religions is just another deity to us, possibly identified with Brahma, but also showing the attributes of war gods like Sakka.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're just making claims that your israelite book contradicts.
You're pretending to follow a dead israeli religion lile a shounen anime I don't care if you think me mature or wise.
You people are very hostile and disrespectful. I always thought of buddhists as peaceful and understanding people, but I guess that's all just a facade. My point still stands. If you're going to believe the battle with iron chariots, then you should also believe and take into account all the acts that God did in the Old Testament as well. As in, shooting fire from the sky, causing natural disasters and many other things. When you consider that God is capable of these things, but yet witheld from doing them during that battle (and many if not all the other ones) then it's obvious that there was a reason why. You just don't understand, and because of that it seems to make you feel insecure and rather than accept that you don't understand, you let pride overrule you and make all these blind assumptions about the faith and myself as well.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>When you consider that God is capable of these things, but yet witheld from doing them during that battle (and many if not all the other ones) then it's obvious that there was a reason why. You just don't understand, and because of that it seems to make you feel insecure and rather than accept that you don't understand, you let pride overrule you and make all these blind assumptions about the faith and myself as well.
You don't seem to get the picture, many Gods are capable of the same things, not just yours. Raining down fire and brimstone and exterminating entire peoples is tame compared to what the Gods in the Mahabharata are able to accomplish. You have a very limited view of deities and you refuse to broaden your horizons. That's not the way of someone who wants to know the truth, but of somebody who wishes to shut himself in his little bubble of ignorance and is afraid of being proven wrong. I have been nothing but calm and kind in my answers, even though you were totally oblivious to your pride when you claimed ONLY you and your religion know the truth. Seething is not an argument.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Again, I read plenty of different beliefs before I found my faith. I'm well aware that there are other supposed beings. And you're under the assumption that this is all God is about. Making fire rain from the sky and causing natural disasters, but you're wrong. This is why you see God as you do, because you don't understand who He really is. You disregard Him as nothing more than another diety, which by all means you have the right to do so. But you're wrong. I'm not seething, but I know that my faith is true and what is spoken of in the Bible is true. If there was a higher being that existed, I wouldn't be here doing what I'm doing right now, I'd be doing something else. I go by my own life experience, not by what others say or claim. The Bible is more than a book, it's alive. But you'll never realize that unless God reveals Himself to you.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>But you'll never realize that unless God reveals Himself to you.
Brahma the creator reveals itself to many, but that doesn't mean there isn't something that transcends even him, which is the ultimate goal of buddhism.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I respect your beliefs, but I do not agree with them.
3 weeks ago
Chud Anon
Once again, no one asked bitch. He doesn’t believe shit for some homosexual Christ cuck to “respect” it.
I think your beliefs are pure dogshit and not worth wiping my ass with, and Christian’s are pathetic homosexuals.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
And God isn't Brahma, that's just your version and perspective of God.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>You people are very hostile and disrespectful. I always thought of buddhists as peaceful and understanding people, but I guess that's all just a facade
Don't be fooled, real Buddhists are, they're great people. There aren't any Buddhists on LULZ, it's antithetical to the religion. Real Buddhists don't even proselytize.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I get it. Even in my faith there's people like that.
3 weeks ago
Chud Anon
No one cares about your faith loser homosexual, the Bible is a waste of natural resources to print.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>God did not lose that battle. The people that God commanded lost it.
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Cherrypicking instead of taking everything I said into consideration. Very mature and very wise. Is this what buddhists are about?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're just making claims that your israelite book contradicts.
You're pretending to follow a dead israeli religion lile a shounen anime I don't care if you think me mature or wise.
>Science can't prove God exists. You fail to understand that prayer to God won't be answered unless you yourself are in alignment with what He is about.
We don't really need science's approval to understand that Gods and spirits exist, they're just the inhabitants of the higher planes of the universe which are inaccessible to us men and live according to Kamma. >If God directly interfered, not battle would've been lost.
Well, he did interfere many times, but he and Israel still lost to Moab, iron chariots and a handful of other foreign deities. Now christians and israelites justify these losses by blaming Israel's tendency to worship "idols", but we have to take into account that according to the pre-monotheistic period, YHWH used to be only another insignificant deity in the wide pantheon of Gods, and due to this and that victory of a monotheistic sect devoted to him he merged with El, Baal and the other Canaanite Gods and slowly became the only subject of worship. It's all set in history, anyone can read the Canaanite myths next to a Bible and put two and two together.
Theravada is the most conservative branch of the buddhist lineages. It is always the case with westerners that twist and bend the scriptures to fit the modern "reddit" life.
Because christianity is a dead religion noone believes in anymore as it has been disproven.
It's funny because it doesn't matter if you're a Christian, Muslim, Buddhist or whatever sect or religion you experience the same divine connection through meditation. Almost like all your holy texts are filler written by men, but the mind has access to the ultimate truth. Feel free to squabble over your petty differences though.
One of my friend joined of these buddhist cults. They forced him to stop all connection with friends and family. Few years later he quit the cult and now he lives with his parents who are shamed of him.
sounds like when I moved out of my dad's house and tried to be a tranny
except living the life of an ascetic is far more respectable
You either made this up or mistook Buddhism for Jehova's Witnessery. Buddhist monasticism is very strict about requiring monks to not sever ties with friends and especially with family.
I once saw some buddhist monks (full attire) at a best buy looking to buy iPad's. Make of that what you will.
city monks are like that, forest monks are the real deal
thanks for the clarification. I know it's like that with all belief systems.
I talk to city monks all the time at my local temples. They eat twice a day (The Vinaya code says you're only allowed to have a meal at dawn and fast until the next dawn), own money and even request scholarships from my university. They claim that without breaking those precepts life in the modern city would be impossible, so they leave those rules to forest monks.
>scholarships from my university
ehhh that's a bit of a reach. life in a modern city is entirely possible without a scholarship from a university lol.
they can't get jobs, but they can study at universities
I see, thanks for clarifying that. What would a buddhist monk need to learn that his temple can't already teach?
>What would a buddhist monk need to learn that his temple can't already teach?
Reaching nibbana can only be done through self-effort first of all. The temple can give you guidance, but it is you who should follow the path with your pacing and modes. Become an island unto yourself is the fundamental teaching that the historical Buddha left to his disciples before his death and final nibbana.
That didn't really answer my question. Are you implying they're taking classes on buddhism at their university?
the young abbot who operates at my temple is studying languages but has a degree in buddhist studies
I see. I understand now.
>he says announcing this on social media
There is no escape for you
daily reminder essence is real and nominalism is braindead sophist rot
why meditate emptying your mind, when you can meditate filling it with God. And thus attain divinization. Christian monks is where its at.
because buddhism transcends the idea of the creator God. Brahma was conquered by the Buddha, it's something you christians can't get through your head.
Amen.
I disagree. What buddhists claim is unknowable, we Christians know.
The effects of buddhist meditation on the mind have been proven by modern science far more than prayers to a Canaanite monotheistic God. The Old Testament has already demonstrated well enough that YHWH is, in fact, a mortal deity subjected to passions and able to be defeated by other deities exactly as the buddhist scriptures said.
Science can't prove God exists. You fail to understand that prayer to God won't be answered unless you yourself are in alignment with what He is about. He is a living God, not an automated force. God in the Bible cannot be defeated. What you see in the OT is God leading people to fulfill a promise He made. God uses these people to fulfill that promise. If God directly interfered, not battle would've been lost.
The israelite god lost to iron chariots retard. Read the bible instead of larping on the internet.
I have read the Bible, many times in fact. God did not lose that battle. The people that God commanded lost it. If you read the rest of the OT you would see that God is capable of shooting fire down from the sky and causing great acts of natural disasters. If God wanted to, He could've easily intervened and done away with these iron chariots. You just don't understand what's going on in the Bible and you've made that clear. I'm not going to claim I know anything about buddhism but yea, you're full of shit man.
>I'm not going to claim I know anything about buddhism but yea, you're full of shit man.
Then go and study buddhism, no one is denying you permission to read the Pali Canon.
That's the thing, I don't need to. I dabbled before I found my faith, and what I found in my faith was something no other belief system I tried could ever provide.
>That's the thing, I don't need to.
Then don't be surprised when you lose an argument around buddhists.
What argument? The one you intentionally ignored and skipped to the end to respond to? Read the rest of my post and respond to that as well.
I answered to the argument in full and even provided a brief history of the YHWH cult. It goes without saying that Gods are living beings like everything else composed of the five aggregates. But the God of the abrahamic religions is just another deity to us, possibly identified with Brahma, but also showing the attributes of war gods like Sakka.
You people are very hostile and disrespectful. I always thought of buddhists as peaceful and understanding people, but I guess that's all just a facade. My point still stands. If you're going to believe the battle with iron chariots, then you should also believe and take into account all the acts that God did in the Old Testament as well. As in, shooting fire from the sky, causing natural disasters and many other things. When you consider that God is capable of these things, but yet witheld from doing them during that battle (and many if not all the other ones) then it's obvious that there was a reason why. You just don't understand, and because of that it seems to make you feel insecure and rather than accept that you don't understand, you let pride overrule you and make all these blind assumptions about the faith and myself as well.
>When you consider that God is capable of these things, but yet witheld from doing them during that battle (and many if not all the other ones) then it's obvious that there was a reason why. You just don't understand, and because of that it seems to make you feel insecure and rather than accept that you don't understand, you let pride overrule you and make all these blind assumptions about the faith and myself as well.
You don't seem to get the picture, many Gods are capable of the same things, not just yours. Raining down fire and brimstone and exterminating entire peoples is tame compared to what the Gods in the Mahabharata are able to accomplish. You have a very limited view of deities and you refuse to broaden your horizons. That's not the way of someone who wants to know the truth, but of somebody who wishes to shut himself in his little bubble of ignorance and is afraid of being proven wrong. I have been nothing but calm and kind in my answers, even though you were totally oblivious to your pride when you claimed ONLY you and your religion know the truth. Seething is not an argument.
Again, I read plenty of different beliefs before I found my faith. I'm well aware that there are other supposed beings. And you're under the assumption that this is all God is about. Making fire rain from the sky and causing natural disasters, but you're wrong. This is why you see God as you do, because you don't understand who He really is. You disregard Him as nothing more than another diety, which by all means you have the right to do so. But you're wrong. I'm not seething, but I know that my faith is true and what is spoken of in the Bible is true. If there was a higher being that existed, I wouldn't be here doing what I'm doing right now, I'd be doing something else. I go by my own life experience, not by what others say or claim. The Bible is more than a book, it's alive. But you'll never realize that unless God reveals Himself to you.
>But you'll never realize that unless God reveals Himself to you.
Brahma the creator reveals itself to many, but that doesn't mean there isn't something that transcends even him, which is the ultimate goal of buddhism.
I respect your beliefs, but I do not agree with them.
Once again, no one asked bitch. He doesn’t believe shit for some homosexual Christ cuck to “respect” it.
I think your beliefs are pure dogshit and not worth wiping my ass with, and Christian’s are pathetic homosexuals.
And God isn't Brahma, that's just your version and perspective of God.
>You people are very hostile and disrespectful. I always thought of buddhists as peaceful and understanding people, but I guess that's all just a facade
Don't be fooled, real Buddhists are, they're great people. There aren't any Buddhists on LULZ, it's antithetical to the religion. Real Buddhists don't even proselytize.
I get it. Even in my faith there's people like that.
No one cares about your faith loser homosexual, the Bible is a waste of natural resources to print.
>God did not lose that battle. The people that God commanded lost it.
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
Cherrypicking instead of taking everything I said into consideration. Very mature and very wise. Is this what buddhists are about?
You're just making claims that your israelite book contradicts.
You're pretending to follow a dead israeli religion lile a shounen anime I don't care if you think me mature or wise.
>Science can't prove God exists. You fail to understand that prayer to God won't be answered unless you yourself are in alignment with what He is about.
We don't really need science's approval to understand that Gods and spirits exist, they're just the inhabitants of the higher planes of the universe which are inaccessible to us men and live according to Kamma.
>If God directly interfered, not battle would've been lost.
Well, he did interfere many times, but he and Israel still lost to Moab, iron chariots and a handful of other foreign deities. Now christians and israelites justify these losses by blaming Israel's tendency to worship "idols", but we have to take into account that according to the pre-monotheistic period, YHWH used to be only another insignificant deity in the wide pantheon of Gods, and due to this and that victory of a monotheistic sect devoted to him he merged with El, Baal and the other Canaanite Gods and slowly became the only subject of worship. It's all set in history, anyone can read the Canaanite myths next to a Bible and put two and two together.
>reddivada
Cringe.
Because christianity is a dead religion noone believes in anymore as it has been disproven.
Theravada is the most conservative branch of the buddhist lineages. It is always the case with westerners that twist and bend the scriptures to fit the modern "reddit" life.
It's funny because it doesn't matter if you're a Christian, Muslim, Buddhist or whatever sect or religion you experience the same divine connection through meditation. Almost like all your holy texts are filler written by men, but the mind has access to the ultimate truth. Feel free to squabble over your petty differences though.
>fill your mind with a israeli desert demon
Fill your mind with a bullet christhomosexual