I'm talking about those of us who aim to look like women and dress fem. If you're not that, this is not for you.
We're the same shit, with diferent pronouns, that's it. A lot of times not even that.
Those who insist it's not, it's because they want to feel a sense of superior and call trannies mentally. I don't want to do that I don't hate trannies, we're in the same boat and deal with same shit.
I'll probably just call myself a woman in the future, stealth and enjoy female privilege seems convenient.
Im glad at least one person is being honest about the situation. HRT femboys and trannies are the same exact thing.
For always calling us mentally ill and ashamed, femboys sure try to distance themselves from what they are every way that they can.
The difference is political/philosophical in nature.
Femboy is about freedom.
Therefore, it's Libertarian and MRA adjacent.
It's based on the world as it is, not on how it ought to be.
Clothing has no gender. It's about men's rights to wear whatever the fuck they want to wear.
It's about human rights to use whatever drugs you want to use. Whether that is steroids or HRT.
It's about individual liberty.
It's about defending yourself from bigot oppressors. Daddy Government doesn't need to save us.
It's owning your personal decisions and taking control of your own life.
Transgenderism is auth-left in nature.
It is built on a religious narrative, example: "being born in the wrong body"
It's about worshipping at "The Cathedral" and catering to Neoliberal "intersectionalist" worldview.
It's about forcing this worldview on others.
It's about leveraging the institution of liberal "science" to exert influence.
It's about punishing chuds who disagree and forcing them to pay taxes for free medicine.
It's about blaming others for your problems.
Femboy is about embracing nonconformist individual freedom.
Transgender is about conforming to progressive dogma about what a transwoman (or transman) should be.
I was a femboy because I didn't know about hormones at the time, and was just coping with it because I couldn't have what I really wanted.
Using hormones does not make you transgender.
It makes you transhumanist. It's biohacking.
You can still be a Femboy and take hormones.
You can get FFS and laser hair removal and be a femboy
You can even get SRS if you want and still be a femboy.
It's your freedom, and your decision on how much you want to augment your body. It's your job to weigh the risks and benefits and come to an informed decision.
I disagree though if your on hrt, your in a state of transition and you are a tranny. You call call yourself whatever but it doesn't change that fact.
And yah your bio hacking you presentation of gender. Making yourself look more female lol. It seems pretty transgender. Like I don't understand why you guys try so hard to distance yourself from a really simple fact.
>get a female face
>get a vagina
>injecting estrogen and making your biology resemble females.
>removing hair to female quantities
Like what's the point of playing games woth words when your doing transexual stuff.
>I disagree though if your on hrt, your in a state of transition and you are a tranny.
All humans are always in a state of transition.
Even with hormones.
Testosterone falls with age in males. And they gradually mald.
Females basically lose all estrogen after menopause.
Did you know many post menopausal cis women take HRT? Are they trannies?
What about bodybuilder women who take roids? Are they trannies?
Are men who take Testosterone Replacement Therapy trannies? Are men on roids trannies?
Are insmoniacs that take melatonin (which is a hormone) trannies? Are they transleep?
It's all about the details.
If you like the physical or mental effects of a certain hormone, then take it!
If you are worried about the risks to health or fertility, don't!
>Like what's the point of playing games woth words when your doing transexual stuff.
Chud logic. This is exactly why auth-right doesn't accept trans people. You have a rigid idea of what a "woman" is and you think you have to follow the recipe that society prescribes to be a woman.
GNC people exist and are valid.
"gender" has always been a spectrum at-best, and it's wrong to pigeonhole people to a certain classification.
The reality is that the individual has full freedom to do what they want.
You like your body hair or facial hair? Don't get it removed.
You like having a flat chest? Don't get implants and pray HRT doesn't give you booba.
You like your penis? Don't get SRS.
Just because society (and medicine) prescribe a certain path or expectations for a "transition" doesn't mean you need to follow it. Do your own thing bro.
>All humans are always in a state of transition.
Being in a state of flux doesnt mean everyone seeks out the sex characteristics opposite of what puberty gave them.
If your trying to make yourself look more female, with the hormone that essentially makes females, look like females. You a tranny no matter what your intentions Or views you hold. Maybe your not even trying to female, but as far as I can tell femboys are coping trannies doing the same thing 99% of time.
I've been doing my own things since day one, pre transition I was a long haired femboy, openly crossdressing 24/7. I don't feel like Im compelled to do anything. But I want to appear and live as a female.
Like Im not ascribing anything you might think comes with being ID'ed as a tranny, but at the base of what your doing you are a tranny.
Like everything you type to argue thats not the case, I just wonder, what is it that bothers you so much about being labeled a tranny?
..being labeled as a tranny is kinda weird tbh—
I don't mind I just don't care much about labels anymore, but yeah they shouldn't force it into us.
We're transitioning to female but not necessarily a woman just call us hrt femboys. Yeah we're similar things, at this point I don't care much if I'm called tranny, but everone likes it.
*not everone likes it
I disagree in transgender, we change sex charateristics not necessarily gender, some of us may use femboy as a gender, but not all. I think the correct term would be transexual and as awful at it sounds. It just feel stupid to not admit we're transitioning medicaly to female.
I agree that it is more accurate to say we are transexuals. Like I just think of gender as your perceived sex anyway.
I don't think it sounds so bad, I'd feel worse getting called, or ID'ed a femboy. It's basically calling yourself a sissy.
Hrt femboys are trannies though. Like there are almost no contexts or conversations, where I would ever use the term femboy.
Like saying tranny instead, would be just is accurate too, it isn't leaving anything out, and it's less cringe. Like for example, if you don't crossdress, ill clarify that, and add context to the conversation as needed. Rather than use the term hrt femboy.
I'll put it like this way. It's like bisexuals, pansexuals and omisexuals, people have their reasons to label themselves you don't have to understand it , just respect other people's labels.
Ehh I wouldn't respect pansexual/omnisexual. Pansexuals are just bisexuals trying to play it like they are above such base desires, there attraction us more pure. Maybe the context is important to them, Idk. I still think it it's dumb.
I'm Op, bitches you sounds like repressed trannies, like the only reasons you guys call us femboys is because transphobia. I'm don't call myself an hrt femboy to opose trannies, don't do that if that's your reason, no one gives a fuck, both groups suffer violence and discrimination because we transition our bodies to female.
i think it was xavie or someone like that who pointed out all the femboys are from the south and i think they were right tbh
I'm not American, maybe that's why I'm not an squizo neo nazi hrt femboy and just a chill one.
>i think it was xavie or someone like that who pointed out all the femboys are from the south and i think they were right tbh
this is probably because they're trannies who are too ashamed to call themselves trannies, while the trannies in the north have less shame about being trannies
>all femboys are from the south
You know we exist outside of the US, right?
lmao thats so fucking stupid, most american in the worst way possible shit ive seen in awhile. literally just died of cringe, you make it seem like le transgenderism is a political stance and not a disorder too
it sure fucking is summer, and whats up with the recent surge in femboy v tranny posts? utter garbage
i want to look cute, and that involves dressing fem. i don't give a shit if i actually look like a woman
it all comes down to the big four, fight-flight-freeze-fawn. Out Trans woman, Stealth, Repressor, Hrt femboy and/or Boymoder
Only based ex-femboy MTF on this board. Yes I'm glad you finally noticed, welcome aboard to tranny clan sis <3
omg so true bestie, thx for the femboy tranny solidarity
i also believe in that
anyways femboys who want snugs and kisses and loving from a tranny hit me up
lolol i feel the same..
..i call myself an hrt femboy but i want to look as fem as possible..
maybe as i get frther into my transition.. i might style myself in a way that can’t rlly be considered female?
..i want to be an hrt femboy 4 evrrrr
If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck..
dumb as shit post
no shit retard
I don't care, both can suck my dick.
HRT femboys don't exist you psyoping transexuals, stop killing my people with this bullshit meme term
We're technically transsexuals, but we don't use she/her pronouns most of the time, unless we pass and turns too anoying to correct people.
what's wrong with just being a cute twink?
No tits, twink dead.
>Femboy is retarded
Imagine my shock
doesn't exist. unless you like being a slave
I feel I'm already being treated as a lesser woman as an hrt femboy.
Like a woman but less of a person that's the word.
Do you have dysphoria? Are you genuinely upset by your biology or are you just feminine? I personally think there’s some mental differences whether it’s placebo or not. I would agree hrt femboys are similar to HSTS but not all trans women and not all femboys obviously. If you’re an hrt femboy with crippling dysphoria but just hanging onto male pronouns because you think you’re being progressive, you’re a fucking tranny.
I dont follow any ideology. I kind of don't care much about gender anymore, I think I would get dysphoria id someone cut my tits, but that's all.
I'm an hrt femboy rigth now,,I'll be a tranny in the future if I see ir fitting in the future. I know a lot of people see me as a tranny also don't care, it's anoying to correct people.
I’m getting the impression you think every trans woman is mentally ill and swamped with ideology/actually think they’re a woman. You’re still a trans woman. I don’t care that you enjoy male pronouns you’re actively trying to be gendered female by trying to pass that way. Do you have a superiority complex? It’s annoying to correct people to male pronouns? I agree but don’t act like you don’t know exactly what you’re doing. A biologically aware tranny is still a tranny.
the difference is that femboys aren't on a fascistic narcissistic power trip wanting to force everyone to participate into their roleplay and control their language and thoughs.
femboy are degen but not totalitarian
troons and degen and totalitarian
therefore femboys >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> troons
terrible generalization. real trans women don’t correct people because they pass. hrt femboys are attention whores who want extra points for not denying their biology.
Femboys are merely opting out of you're retarded "do I pass?" rat race.
Not HRT femboys retard. Read the fucking post.
you guys should get to know eachother. shit thread, seems like so many of you guys just believe
>tranny = le ugly and everything i dont like
>femboy = le pretty and everything i like
Has nothing to how pretty you are.
Femboys have full freedom.
A buff dude with a beard can be a femboy.
An effeminate man on HRT can also be a femboy.
Transgenders were told by leftists that HRT/FFS/SRS is what they need medically.
Right wingers (and the medical community in the past) call them mentally I'll.
It's externally prescribed - other people telling you what you need to do.
Other people telling you what you can and can't do.
Naturally those lacking autonomy over their own body might be less attractive because they have been damaged by social pressure. They might look sick, they might look like a shell of flesh.
Femboys have confidence because they own their own decisions. They have a rationalist worldview. Their decision is rooted in logic and hence they are immune to people calling them "mentally ill"
Their will to power comes from within.
Femboy is a political philosophy, it's not just progressive, it's gender accelerationist.
The analogous freedom lovers of past generations (before acceleration) are Libertarian Gays like Peter Thiel. He's German btw.
nice definition of femboy but the problem is people comparing your gender identity to a political stance and comparing a kink or cute self identified group to a literal disorder. not to say youre completely wrong but leftists dont tell trannies that though, they just think trannies are some expression or something and picture mtfs as being muscular with loads of body hair and shitty makeup
imo im kind of biased against most femboys because of several reasons but if its some freedom loving thing like you describe i'm all for it
>Those who insist it's not, it's because they want to feel a sense of superior and call trannies mentally
you just now realized they're transphobic?
yes, even trans people can be transphobic.
uncle rukus types
>I'm talking about those of us who aim to look like women and dress fem. If you're not that, this is not for you
You're not even really a HRT femboy then lol, you're literally just a closeted MtF. A surefire way to determine a HRT femboy from someone who's MtF is to ask them how they feel about breast growth. Most of us have facial dysphoria, we don't want facial hair, expanded midfaces, body hair, all that jazz, but we don't want tits either.
You could argue we're non-binary or something, which half of this board argues over whether that counts as trans anyway, but pretending it's the exact same thing as MtF just tells me you're projecting.
t. hrt twink