Filipinotard here the largest IKEA store as of currently just opened recently and I was wondering if its products were reliable especially its kitchen much appreciated thanks.
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Ikea reliability
Filipinotard here the largest IKEA store as of currently just opened recently and I was wondering if its products were reliable especially its kitchen much appreciated thanks.
Hmmmm I don't think they ship that stuff from here round the globe to your place. So it realy wouln't help you much if I described the quality we get here.
most of their products are shipped internationally. it's the same shit everywhere
they're extremely good for their price. the quality is not that bad. they try to make long lasting products.
the other anons are right of course, solid wood will last a lifetime (or more), but they will cost you alot more.
IKEA is designed to serve you about as about as long as an automobile. It starts looking like crap pretty quick. But it'll keep at it for several years before it just up and dies on you. And then you go out and get more.
You'll never hand down your IKEA to your children, for instance. Or refinish it. Or break it down into a couple smaller tables or a deal or workbench or whatever.
It's a consumable. Treat it as such and you won't be disappointed.
>ship that stuff from here round the globe
That is literally their entire business model with the flat packing.
>IKEA is designed to serve you about as about as long as an automobile
Twenty to thirty years?
>Twenty to thirty years?
Like an automobile, it depends ok how you maintain it. Treat it like crap by overloading it and leaving it to weather, maybe five to seven. Treat it not horribly and let it sit in the corner of your room holding up a couple magazines? Yeah, twenty or thirty will be fine.
new automobiles are made to last as long as the the payment plan
Table and desktop are fancy cardboard. They're alright but finding something used is probably better
Some of the shelves are alright but kind of expensive, but the finish is a little better than competitors.
I guess they sell meatballs everyone says are great, I never tried them.
Don’t waste your money. They are made from pressboard mostly. If you have to buy them find solid wood. No pressboard. Pine isn’t very good either. I’d try to go on Craigslist or Facebook market
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>No
Were You Born Yestrday, tbh?
I think half my country has ikea kitchens. I would say it’s okay for price but some stuff has stupid engineering. Like the tops and cabinets are okay (it’s an easy process to make a pretty good top) but the way they mount their faucets and sinks to it are stupid (had a leak, and a faucet that kept coming loose, but there’s little you can do about it because they just bolt them onto holes in the weak presswood stuff). Also most stoves I’ve used from them are fine, but the dishwashers are the cheapest model from whirlpool or LG or whatever.
The thick sandwich sheets of cardboard + presswood are generally poor quality and one of the reasons why people hate ikea, but a lot of the solid wood products (with the finger jointed birch sheets) and aluminium furniture is pretty sturdy.
Their proprietary hardware (these set screws that go around corners and self tapping presswood screws) also make poor connections usually. So it’s kind of hit and miss but if your product includes plywood, MDF, weird looking screws or nuts, or sandwich plate, it’s usually poor.
>The thick sandwich sheets of cardboard + presswood are generally poor quality and one of the reasons why people hate ikea, but a lot of the solid wood products (with the finger jointed birch sheets) and aluminium furniture is pretty sturdy.
Huh, that's the exact opposite take as mine. I find their wood furniture to be extraordinarily poorly constructed, and a bad value compared to non-flatpack unfinished wood furniture that can be found locally.
Meanwhile, I think their particleboard furniture is quite well designed, and noticeably better than pieces you might find at Walmart or similar. Their cardboard coffee tables are, imo, the pinnacle of cheap furniture design.
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> Meanwhile, I think their particleboard furniture is quite well designed, and noticeably better than pieces you might find at Walmart or similar. Their cardboard coffee tables are, imo, the pinnacle of cheap furniture design.
Last time I assembled a Lack table it used extremely short single, hollow threads that went straight into predrilled holes in both the legs and the top. You turn the legs to fasten them so they are always too tight (which strips the holes immediately) or too lose (which ruins the holes over time). The Lack shelves are huge, take 5 concrete anchors are rated at… 15kg. The Kallax cabinets are also huge but come with zero racking resistance and will start to squeak and rack in a month or less. You wouldn’t change a baby on top of a kallax.
Pic related is one of their products that I consider better, fasteners still sick but it’s pretty sturdy, wood, I can sit and stand on it, and if I don’t like it anymore I can paint it, replace grips, or build something else from the wood. It’s $45 though
PROTIP: just about all of their solid pine furniture uses wooden dowels as alignment pins. If you glue these dowels in instead of just using them for alignment, the furniture becomes super strong and will last for a lifetime.
Stuff like bookshelves have a sheet of what is basically hardboard or cardboard for the backing. Usually they include nails or staples to fasten the back, but if you glue them, the bookshelves become rigid as fug and almost indestructible.
tldr, glue is magic.
> Stuff like bookshelves have a sheet of what is basically hardboard or cardboard for the backing. Usually they include nails or staples to fasten the back, but if you glue them, the bookshelves become rigid as fug and almost indestructible
I concur. If you put too much weight on it nails can tear out and you can put a new nail. If you glue them the thin hardboard backing will tear over time and there’s no way to remove or repair it once it breaks. Been there. Dowels thing is true btw
>gluing flat pack furniture together
I sure hope you guys don't do this. The way to maximize longevity is to disassemble the furniture before moving it. Gluing it together is only going to slightly extend the time before you break it into pieces trying to move it intact.
Their more expensive stuff is decent.
Ikea is the Harbor Freight of home furnishings.
Weird analogy but okay.
Simple answer is No.
Analogy answer, see
Complex answer is they sometimes make decent things and mix them in to keep their reputation from falling into full on Scam territory. If you know what to look for and manage your expectations then they can be useful. But that require a degree of understanding and effort most of their shoppers don't have. Because if you have the understanding of what to look for odds are you could build your own better. And if you put in the time to bargain hunt than you are better off looking at used stuff.
*IKEA was mach better when they first started, got some old stuff that has held up great.
My wife has had a couple billy bookshelves for maybe a decade or more, they were disassembled a few times for moving and are routinely overloaded with two rows of books. Still going strong with a few minor fixes, and those things are like 40 euros. The quality/cost ratio is hard to beat.
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>cheap cardboard filled furniture
Nothing personal, kid...
They have completely good tops for $150+
They offer cheaper things for poorfags. Naturally it's always the poorfags that then complain about this.
Are you really gonna whine here you don't get a finished solid massive oak top for $50?
americans make houses out of this - what's the issue?
Cupboards are ok, but not waterproof. Very easy to assemble, my wife did them and they are adjustable (3 way levelling).
None but rubbish bin adjacent cupboard are showing signs of aging after 3 years.
Don't buy their wood veneer countertop. You can get better quality for the same price elsewhere.
To add, their manufacturing is very accurate (no problem fitting) and panels are very durable against mechanical damage.
ikea shills itt
Vast majority of their solid wood products are made of fast growing, "sustainable" tree varieties. This makes a very soft end product and their fasteners end up failing quickly from compression.
If you throw away most of the load bearing fasteners and assemble it more appropriately they actually last quite a while.
i live in a fairly remote part of canada and have relied on ikea shit more than once because of the way it's packaged and shipped it's usually the simple cheapest easiest option by a long shot
it's pretty crappy like it can't handle moisture or abuse but if you take care of it it is fine
i live in a 3rd world shithole and half of my furniture is ikea. i would say the quality varies very much, from jysk type of chinese shit to ok products.
you can find practical and cheap furniture if you take time, there is lot of cheap trash and lots of the same trash that is ridiculously overpriced (i'd say ikea is good if you can judge value by yourself). it's still much more expensive than jysk for example, or some local manufactures that use particle board instead of cardboard, but has better finish imho, and modularity and ability to combine product is really a big thing for me.
one in my city has retarded employees too, i once asked if i could get certain tabletop in custom length, and the guy insisted there's no way, i have to choose from several fixed lengths. then when i redid my project and went to buy the board, they asked me how long do i want them to cut it, because i can select custom length, fucking retards.
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Bootleg Mexican goo/k/ here too. I won't recommend IKEA in terms of durability, some of their furniture's that have an appearance of wood like cabinets and desk is made of caked out cardboard like one of the anons said. Give it a few years they start to bend or weaken from weight and use, you can't even repurpose their panels since whenever you try nailing them some edges starts to split or crack (*unless you drill some holes and threads). And I had my own fair share of having a few missing screws in the package (*note this was the time when domestic IKEA still isn't around and that package was purchased online)
The plumbing they use is horrible and unservicable
T.plumber
Good option if you need something cheap that you don't expect you will use forever. My kids rooms are mostly Ikea since I know they will destroy whatever anyways. I wouldn't buy a sofa or dining table from them though.
Some stuff is OK. Others is cheap.
Problem with Ikea: They abandon product lines. If you want a matching cabinet or fixture later, they may have discontinued it. You might get lucky and find something on-line used. But Ikea will drop the product, no matter how popular it is.
I suspect that they buy a batch of stuff from Chink manufacturers and relabel it. When they can't get the same deal because they don't actually control manufacturing, too bad. Which is also why quality is variable.
Its garbage, "chinese" tier
Ikea is the harbor freight of furniture