If Africa has humanity's oldest civilizations then why didn't they have enough time to invent an alphabet, the wheel or basic mathematics like Europeans?
If Africa has humanity's oldest civilizations then why didn't they have enough time to invent an alphabet, the wheel or basic mathematics li...
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>invent an alphabet, the wheel or basic mathematics like Europeans
The wheel because of the terrain everything else is a mystery.
Yes I'm sure this is bad terrain for wheels, but the dense forests of ancient Europe are ideal.
>start off with factually incorrect or deliberately obfuscated historical statement
>jump to nonsense conclusion based on these intentionally incorrect assumptions
>propose it as a loaded question
>summary of post: "naggers bad"
Yep, this is an Africa thread.
Mental health & neuro-psychological assessment of the typical politically incorrect poster
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Every five or so threads created on the board witnesses one discussing Negroes, and even threads with nothing pertaining to them will usually have an anon who feels it necessary to drag them into the discourse.Behind all the hate; the monkey and KANGZ memes,Tyrone"sheeit" comics,gifs,demotivational pics,and webms -/pol/users secretly have a grudging respect,bordering on admiration,for the Negro.Although if one were to ask them directly,they would vehemently deny the claim with all the passion of a demure,besotted teenager.
The nature of their fixation?The raw brass confident masculinity they possess which is derisively compared to feral beasts,and yet at the same time acknowledged is what women truly desire at their core and what is lacking in many white heterosexual unions.The intrinsic ruggedness that enables them to stamp their mark on any field of physical endeavor.The amazing sense of rhythm they naturally seem to possess,derisively likened to ape gesticulations,and yet is oh so majestic to witness and enthusiastically imitated.
Then there is the stereotype of the black man's sexuality,particularly his phallus.It has become a prodigious protuberance of myth and legend.There is a reason that r/AsianMasculinity trolls are laughed off while BBC and BLACKED generates anger and solemn disdain.For,to the /misc/yp,where the Asian man's masculinity is considered a joke the black man's is a threat to be taken with utmost seriousness;for there may be a kernel of truth to it.Is it a coincidence that, of all the races of men,it is the Negro whose virile masculinity has become a meme that literally cannot be completed with?
Based on our assessment Dr. Wojack and I have concluded that /misc/ is a board populated with manic depressive autistic schizoid individuals afflicted with a Jungian-Pavlovian psycho-pathological Negro-complex.
>If Africa has humanity's oldest civilizations
...they dont
>invent an alphabet, the wheel or basic mathematics like Europeans?
>like Europeans?
The difference is this however:
>Europeans come in contact with civilisation
>Adopt it easily, improve it and eventually take the lead in developing it further
>Africans come in contact with civilisation
>Do nothing with it, can't adapt to it and tear it down as soon as others are tired of trying to civilise them.
That's not what happened.
This claim by whoever that is, is not supported by archaeology. Also, according to this person, what happened that made the Africans lose all their advanced technology?
Are you familiar with the Greek metal themed Ages of man; the Yugas of the Hindus;the Statue in king Nebuchadnezzar's dream;the Second law of thermodynamics etc. etc.
Yes I am, but please enlighten me how any of that is relevant to the history of Africans.
Everything is in a state of continuous,gradual and inevitable decline.Apply this not only to civilizations, but also to races and see how blacks compare in their lowly state now to how they were regarded in the earliest epochs of history.
Okay, so let's do that then. Let's regard them in their lowly state, which /misc/tards are already doing. So they're right?
Also, this quote you posted is very bad paraphrasing from Homer and Herodotus. If you'd actually read Homer and Herodotus you'd know that they also had tons of negative things to say about the Ethiopians and saw the Greeks as superior to them.
>which /misc/tards are already doing. So they're right?
Except /misc/tards deny blacks ever being great to begin with.That's the difference. It is much easier to convince someone of your racial theories if they believe a group of people can't be made to do something they were never able to in the past.And that state of decay never ceases. It is ever present and is happening to white man's own civilization even now.
Okay, so they should update their ways of thinking. According to you, their updated thinking could sound something like that:
>"Black people are right now an inferior race, since they have been in decline for thousands of years and it will take another thousands of years for them to become racially stronger again. Racism towards black people is thus justified, since an inferior race needs to subjugate itself towards the currently superior ones."
When a civilization collapses and goes through a Dark Age do the genes of the people immediately become inferior? When they rise again some time later in a sort of renaissance is it a result having suddenly become superior again? Or is it that the population allowed itself to become decadent by forgoing all the tenets that made it great and succumbing to degeneracy like we see happening now?
I never said anything about genes, it was you postulating that races decline and become strong again in a circular fashion in this post
. The reason why they are an inferior race right now doesn't have to be genetic, but they are inferior now because as a race they are in the Kali Yuga according to you, so treating them as an inferior race (no matter the reason) would only make sense.
Describing something as 'inferior' or 'superior' implies something innate and unchangeable.This is what all white racialist supremacist theories are based firmly upon, not vicissitudinal occurrences.
I mean to be fair, with these cycles it takes thousands of years for a race to regain their strength again, so it might as well be unchangeable for our lifetimes and for the next generations as well probably.
The time periods themselves are mercurial and indefinite;could be centuries, could be milenia. Civilization and decadence, Golden Ages and Dark Ages are all determined by myriad forces of history. I won't try to convince you to not look down your nose at a group of people if you believe their behavior and mores to be base just as long as you don't think it's immutable or that you can't end up like them.
>had tons of negative things to say about the Ethiopians and saw the Greeks as superior to them
In certain aspects yes. In general their held them in rather high esteem. Memnon was better regarded than their very own Achilles. One of the missing books from the Greek saga of the Iliad and Odyssey was called the "Ethiops" an was pretty much a love letter to him from what can be gathered in the few outside references to it that survived.
Ethiopians were certainly highly respected during antiquity. However, it is rare that you hear /misc/tards complaining about Ethiopians, right? It is West and South Africans that they have on their mind and it would be quite ignorant to lump them together with Ethiopians since they are quite different people. I'm not sure what the genetic distance between West Africans and Ethiopians is, but I can imagine it would be similar to comparing a Finn with a Turk.
Ancient Ethiopia and modern Ethiopia are not the exact same thing.Sure the country that bears the name today would have been included but it encompassed a larger geographical territory with many different ethnicities. As I said, Ethiopian/Kushite was a general term used to describe any blacks collectively back then.Even more specifically Ethiopians were stated as being the blackest people on earth.Just look at how they were depicted in art.
>Plastic vase in the shape of an Ethiopian head (6th cent. B.C.) in the National Archaeological Museum of Athens
It would still only encompasse nubia and the horn of africa, maybe the coat of kenya at most. Nothing to do with the problem africans so to speak.
Sometimes Africa was referred to as the Ethiopian continent and in classical geographical works the southern half of the Atlantic Ocean was referred to as the Ethiopian Sea.
This doesn't contradict what I say. They really didn't know anything beyond, nubia/kush and the horn. Maybe a little coast to the south.
The earth was not as heavy populated then as it is today. Back then the few geographical regions harboring civilization would have accounted for the majority of the human population of an entire region.
Pretty much. At the very least language wise they are far from eachother, most of africa speaks a language that only got out of the congo in the early middle ages or something similar. You can see the remnants of the languages it supplanted (not always but I assume often with population replacement) in the khoikhoi, cushitic, nilotic and whatever remains of the african part of the afro-asiatic languages. This is excluding west africa, which did't suffer much from the bantu expansion.
Blacks were collectively known in the earliest times as Ethiopians/Kushites and had colonies all across the ancient world just as Britain did during European colonization.Egypt was one such colony originally before it gained autonomy and went it's own separate way. Another great nation of Ethiopian origin was Elam, an ancient country formerly located in southwestern Iran. We read of Memnon, King of Ethiopia, in Greek mythology, to be exact in Homer's Iliad, where he leads an army of Elamites and Ethiopians to the assistance of King Priam in the Trojan War. His expedition started from the African Ethiopia before passing through Egypt on the way to Troy. According to Herodotus, Memnon was the founder of Susa, the principal city of the Elamites.The traditions concerning Memnon are interesting as well as instructive. He was recognized as a king of the Ethiopians and identified with the Pharaoh Amunoph or Amenhotep, by the Egyptians. Charles Darwin makes a reference to this statue in his book "Descent of Man":
>When I looked at the statue of Amunoph III, I agreed with two officers of the establishment, both competent judges, that he had a strongly marked Negro type of features.
Memnon, despite being call the King of the Ethiopians, was Trojan. He was the Nephew of Priam, the last king of Troy. Looking at how other Trojans are described by Homer, I highly doubt he was an African and was likely of Anatolian descent.
>despite being call the King of the Ethiopians, was Trojan
As I pointed out with Elam, Ethiopians had colonies and territories outside of Africa.Similarly, in the Bible, Moses' wife is described as both an Ethiopian woman and a Midianite.
So, his grandfather Laomedon, another king of Troy, and his father Tithonus, were they Ethiopians as well?
They only took a small part of Yemen and that's it.
literally who's?
africans were traped on the neolithic and the rest on the iron age lmao, and this far none evidences any capacity to move past that, only low iq explains it
.>Micheal Faraday
A physicist whose opinions outside of his field of expertise are irrelevant.
>africans were traped on the neolithic and the rest on the iron age lmao
Here's a hint before they were "Sub-saharans" blacks occupied pretty much the entirety of the ancient world. They are responsible for every facet of civilization that was passed down.Whites only invade,usurp, whitewash and then gaslight.
>A physicist whose opinions outside of his field of expertise are irrelevant.
probably of more relevanc than a catholic priest opinions kek
Again, show me any evidence of these claims. What is he basing these claims on?
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VGH THE ANCIENT MVD WALLS OF HARAR.
WHAT COVLD HAVE BEEN.
The alphabet came from Phoenicians
Egypt has been around for like 5000 years.
Writing was adopted and adapted at various stages of history.
Wheels just didn't catch on because beasts of burden and low population densities.
Math varied across time and ages.
The development of civilizations and the development of specific technologies and innovations are complex processes that are influenced by a wide range of factors, including geography, resources, cultural practices, and historical events. While it is true that some civilizations in Africa did not develop certain technologies or innovations at the same time as other civilizations around the world, it is important to note that the history of Africa is complex and varied, and that many African societies have made significant contributions to human civilization.
For example, the ancient Egyptian civilization, which developed in Africa, made significant contributions to the fields of mathematics, astronomy, medicine, and architecture. Similarly, the Nok civilization in West Africa, which flourished between 500 BCE and 200 CE, made significant advances in ironworking and sculpture.
It is also important to recognize that the development of technology and innovations is not a competition, and that different civilizations have developed at their own pace based on their unique histories, cultures, and circumstances. Each civilization has contributed to the global collective knowledge and understanding of the world, and we can learn from and be inspired by the diverse histories and cultures of all civilizations.
Africa wasn't interconnected. In fact there's a strong argument that empires like Aksum and Mali had stronger connections with states outside of Africa then their "fellow" Africans.
>The wheel
Whites never developed it independently
>Wrting
Whites never developed it independently
>Basic Mathematics
I don't know what you mean by this, I'm pretty sure most Africans could add and multiply, if you're talking about something like Algebra you would have to develop writing first and once Blacks got technology we did do mathematics and science. Famously in Mali
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timbuktu_Manuscripts
So please, let these memes die.
Also "Africa" is home to the world's oldest civilization not sub-saharan Africa. SSA was isolated from Eurasian trade routes for most of its history by the Sahara so things had to be developed indepently more often and trade was slower
Stop being retarded. We have hundreds of ancient samples from the region. Blacks were incredibly rare anywhere in Eurasia in ancient times.
Bc naggers. Sinple rly
Uhhhhhhh socio-economic reasons
Reminder that ancient greece, italy and mesopotamia were founded by black people too.
Modern inhabitants are octoroons and quadroons. Those areas were invaded by people resembling modern french people and many of their original black pooulation killed and ethnically replaced, with few survivors that were abused later on.
In fact, when you see many middle easterners or italians/greeks have curly hair you are observing a residual trait inherited from their black ancestors
So true mohammed Allah mbungo Uumepunda
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Europeans didn't invent the alphabet. It was the Phoenicians they stole it from and before them other levantines invented the alphabet.
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