I work as an indie developer. Nintendo sent me a edev for their upcoming console.
It's only going to have 12gb of ram.
720p lcd.
The dev kit has a coretex a520. That's basically a low end phone from 2014. It's barely more powerful than the switch. It has 32mb of cache and it's clocked at 2ghz and only has 4 cores. The intel n100 is more powerful. The execution window sits at 768 instructions (384 entries times two fused microOPs) in flight at one time, up from 640 on the switch 1. That's only 128 extra instructions per clock cycle. The fucked up part is, they're pulling an amd bulldozer by combining 2 cores to a single channel of shared sve2/l2 cache. Meaning that if one core is using 16mb of cache, you're limited to using only 2 cores. The shader cache is only 24mb. The nvidia gpu is barely more powerful than an iPhone 8. Yes games will sort of like better but we're talking xbox 1 level performance at the best of times under the best conditions and at worst, about the same as the original switch.
This is not a new console people, it's simply a refresh of the old switch!!! I don't understand how Nintendo thinks this is going to work out in their favor. I understand that I'm talking about consoles on LULZ and not LULZ but they're too retarded to understand what I'm saying. If you care at all about games, this should enrage you.
>If you care at all about games, this should enrage you.
well, looks like i dont care
fpbp and /thread
That's fair. lol. It's not even good enough to buy one to hack Linux onto.
Is it going to be a hybrid console like the switch or what
I don't know. I just know the internal specs. All they send you is a bare board that plugs into a display that lets you test games compiled on a pc. The system runs at 720p only so I would assume that upscaling is a thing. Nothing they send is remotely a complete system and at the end of a year, we send it back to Nintendo. Sony and Microsoft send over full of systems with nice cases that stack. Nintendo is so damn cheap.
>The intel n100 is more powerful
also toasting at 100C you retard
Dude it's not even as powerful as a ps4. Yes it has 12gb of ram, which is surprising to me, but like come the fuck on. Games will continue to run like ass. Oh boy we will see 20fps up from 12fps woohoo!
>n100
why do people jerk off over this CPU. The n300 is better in every way
I'm using it as a point of comparison. It's a low end chip that barely functions. I agree with you. I like my laptop that sports an intel n300. I get 9 hours of battery out of it and it edits code and compiles like a champ. We have an n100 at the office and it's painfully slow.
I maean yes the nvidia gpu on the switch 2 (working internal title by us not nintendo) is actually good but it's totally kneecapped by the cpu instructions being so anemic. A game we're working on pegs the cpu at 100% and the gpu barely reaches 60% utilization. I don't understand why a company like Nintendo and nvidia would bottleneck the system like this.
>laptop that sports an intel n300
what laptop?
It's from Lenovo. I got it at Target as an impulse buy waiting on my wife. I just wanted something to carry around with me that cost next to nothing.
It's a dev kit so it's only a test bed. There's usb c power which also carries an hdmi 2.1 signal and Bluetooth 5.1 and wifi 6e. It's just a bare pcb that's meant to run games to test the performance. Helps get launch titles to the system.
The steam deck is $399. I was surprised at its bad performance. I thought at least it would be on par with the steam deck.
You're retarded. Sorry you just are. Imagine paying $300 for a console when a midrange phone will out perform it at the same price.
>The steam deck is $399. I was surprised at its bad performance. I thought at least it would be on par with the steam deck.
$400 is a loss price, either they have too much switch inventory and need to get rid of it at a very low margin (because of bad sales), or they plan on removing the non-oled version to force people to spend $550 in the future.
When I said $200, I wasn't lying.
Just because the switch releases at $300 doesn't matter, they will release a "lite" verison for $200, and it needs to run the games without issue (if you make the CPU more expensive, you can't sell the switch for $200).
Nintendo needs to make money from hardware, you are comparing a $200 gaming phone vs a $400-500 gaming phone.
>, either they have too much switch inventory
Sorry I meant the steam deck
I understood you. Fucking phones are gay. It boggles my mind that they're kneecapping the gpu with such a low end cpu. The only thing we speculated was that they're going to release it with a better cpu so 3rd party devs don't outshine Mario and Zelda.
They actually don't. They sell games at full price from launch to end of life. They make so much money from their software it's not even funny. Also they can just tell companies
>sell me a better cpu for the same cost or I'll find someone who will.
They're Nintendo. Not some 3rd world startup.
>It's a dev kit so it's only a test bed.
I dont know much about console development, let alone consoles, but I would've figured that they'd tell you about stuff like whether it has some gimmik (motion controls, two screens).
you dont have a job, pixDAIZ
What input methods does the console use?
I choose to believe this is a real leak and not a larp
His point here on Nintendo cheaping out with devkits compared to Microsoft and Nintendo checks out. If this leak is fake, it's well researched:
if you wanted steam deck performance, you would pay $500.
the next switch is going to be $200-300.
also most games on the first party switch games (the only ones worth playing) are single player, which means as a parent you don't need to pay a monthly subscription.
You can get a used deck for $280 if you search. And it'll last you lover than the switch because it has actual quality parts.
Also, you can play switch games for free on it
based
the industry trend of bigger = better is why the leading "main" console has no fucking video games.
>coretex a520
bullshit. if you're right, i'll come ghost reply to this thread and apologize to you.
You dont need to. I don't care. Nintendo are pissing on everyone.
12gb of ram is at least some step up form the 4gb we are dealing with current kits. But these specs are absolutely disappointing. Sounds like the switch is still going to be a pain in the ass
I don't understand why they didn't go with at least the coretex 530 or 720/730. At least then the gpu wouldnt be being bottlenecked. Who knows if the final product will be this bad though? Hopefully it'll get a spec bump on release and this is so launch devs don't try to outshine Nintendo first party IPs.
>but we're talking xbox 1 level performance
So PS4? It's to be expected.
I'm talking barely ps4. Like the shared cache thing makes it stutter like crazy. It's really hard to develop for. Its a quad core cpu with 2 cores sharing cache channels with only 2 channels. Amd did this with bulldozer and it really fucking sucks to develop for.
The shitty performance of Nintendo consoles is the only thing saving them from becoming boring multi-platform machines like the Xbox and PlayStation. I'm sorry you aren't a good enough game developer to make your game work on limited hardware.
Good Morning Saar.
Im too a Hindi developer, I would like to work at Nintendo very much please.
Thank you
I'm not hindi
I don't work for Nintendo
I find it hard to believe the hardware would be that shitty, but at the same time you went into a lot more detail than the average troll would, so, I'm almost inclined to believe it.
>gets NDA from Nintendo
>tweets like an overexcited birdie to the internet for smug points.
so when is your 13th birthday?
Put me in the screencap that will be spammed on LULZ when this turns out to be a real leak
They have to give the core a bump. I refuse to believe their engineers would kneecap their GPu by using such a low powered CPU in such a retarded configuration
how many tensor cores does it have? does frame generation exist?
I hope it does, also cutting costs by making the charging protocol the same as a phone and just selling the tablet and joycons. I hope this is just for raw power but it will be enhanced by Nvidia AI tecnology
>develops games that need a supercomputer to run
Git gud, if fun games can be made for the NES, they can be made for the switch 2.