I will consert to your religion if you do not try to dodge this question.

I will consert to your religion if you do not try to dodge this question.

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    *convert 🙁

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Boltzmann brain

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The gods are emanations from an eternal (without beginning or end), impersonal source.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    God invented "before and after". Thus there was no "before" when applied to God.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      So why can’t this apply to the Big Bang? Singularities don’t have time.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    He begets not, nor is He begotten.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    He was always there. How so? This is a divine mystery but everything must emanate from the one.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    God always was, He is the I AM.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      you can replace Jesus with any other prophet in this verse, nothing about this is divine

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I created the universe, and I created God.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >thinks something had to create God
    NGMI

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    christians:
    >something must have caused the big bang and that something is god.
    also christians:
    >nothing caused god and I dont have cognitive dissonance

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I don’t do Theist debates, but
      >he hasn’t learned about Big Bang theory that repeats yet
      You do realize that the theory behind the Big Bang wonders if universes come in and out of being all the time, hinting at eternity and eternal new universes being created, right?
      Hence, God is the root of the tree of existence and all that stuff.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Existence is impossible to reason or logically justify. God has no more explanatory power than the universe arbitrarily existing, far less even since the initial state of the universe is far more simple than Yahweh. There is no rational or defensible reason for the existence of reality, it is an unconditional fact that we simply have to accept.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Goddess created God, who's your Mommy?

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This question is a failure to understand the eternalness of God, because humans think in causality. There is no "before". God has always been, which boggles the human mind, because it cannot comprehend it.

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    God cannot be created because God does not exist in space and time unlike the universe.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Space and time are rather properties of the universe, it is illogical to demand something precede space and time.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        God did not precede space and did because there is no such thing as before time. God exists outside of both space and time, which is logically necessary in order for him to be able to create it.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Which is what I am saying, the universe does not require anything to precede it. The universe does not need to be created when the rules of the universe do not somehow act on it from outside itself.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            If the universe does not need anything to precede in order to create it, you're suggesting that the universe is uncaused. That is not consistent with the rest of reality.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Existence is uncaused and unreasonable, the observable universe's finity is subordinate to the fact of reality.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            If existence is unreasonable, why are there fixed physical laws that are unchanging? It was be more unreasonable for the universe to be in a constant state of unpredictable chaos, but it's not.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            In a sense, the absurdity is carried over into everything within the observable universe, as it is self-defined and only coherent in respect to itself. Time and space only exist in the manner of objects in the universe relative to each other. In addition, this seems to be apparent much more literally on the quantum level.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >you're suggesting that the universe is uncaused. That is not consistent with the rest of reality

            It is not inconsistent with the rest of reality if the rest of reality is assumed to be uncreated. Everything around you is everchanging, but is never being “created” or “destroyed” either. You’re looking for a prime mover, not for a creator, and we’re saying you don’t need a prime mover of things just “are” and by nature of their “being” they simply change.

            It is no more unreasonable a take than that of an uncreated creator existing outside of reality, although it is maybe less comforting. But the end result is the same, the outside creator would have had to decide to create our reality at some point in his exterior frame of existence. Which means he either predates it and has his own creator or is himself eternal and chose a point in HIS timeframe to act. ( and he does have a timeframe as he created our reality, requiring an action therefore a change on his part).

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >and he does have a timeframe as he created our reality, requiring an action therefore a change on his part
            Kabbalah has an interesting take on this, with Yahweh being eternal and unchanging, and rather than doing anything, creation is actually just limited observation of himself. Of course, this is completely contrary to all other Abrahamic including Christian views, and does not really need to be discussed as no one here will proclaim it.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >there is no such thing as before time
          But there is. The state before the big bang had no “time” passing. Universal time started with the Big Bang regardless of what occurred before it.

          Just like time would stop in case of a big Freeze or at the end of a big crunch.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    You cant be omnipotent if something had to create you in the first place so you are already objectively wrong about what God is before even asking the question

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Can God create another omnipotent being?

  16. 2 years ago
    Dirk

    God is eternal and self existent so he has no creator. He was not created.

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