I know EVERYTHING about the Russia-Ukraine conflict from the beginning to the end except for the end date.
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I know EVERYTHING about the Russia-Ukraine conflict from the beginning to the end except for the end date. ASK AWAY!
I know EVERYTHING about the Russia-Ukraine conflict from the beginning to the end except for the end date.
ASK AWAY!
no
Based. I can tell without reading it's gonna be some shit like, 'muh Russia man bad, Ukraine Nazis good, need gibs, fight for globohomo' etc
I give OP some herb now oh & fuck Nato
I'm lukewarm about globohomo, I have no interest in this game, I'm just telling it how it is
Are you gnomish by chance?
why didnt they bomb this whore?
Because she's too hot to die.
is time to nazimaidan this ugly garden gnome bitch
Kill flag or kill self
"politics is show business for ugly people"..
who the "cutie" in the middle?
Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer(sic)!
merkels would be crown-prince, totally failed quota waman.
Thy actuali shipped her to Brussel thinking she wont do any damage as an EU birocrat. Elites are retarded.
Will it expand ?
Will Poland get directly involved ? Will they take a chunk ?
Will Hungary get directly involved? Will they take a chunk ?
How much of Ukraine will be left at the end of this ?
Why are ukrainians this stubborn, when the EU wants their economic ass and will in the long term be detrimental for them ?
How much grain was burned and lost ?Will grain trade stop completely ?
>Will it expand ?
Outside of Ukraine-Russia? No.
>Will Poland get directly involved ? Will they take a chunk ?
If Belarus intervenes it might. But Belarus won't intervene, they're just there as a threat to keep a part of the forces pinned that could otherwise relocate to the East or South.
>Will Hungary get directly involved? Will they take a chunk ?
That is not even a question. No they will not.
>How much of Ukraine will be left at the end of this ?
Entirely depends on the West's willingness i.e. on what's playing out in the heads of Western officials. I cannot know that, but, what I am certain of, is that the war will end up with a status quo ante at worst and Ukraine retaking Crimea and Donbas at best.
>Why are ukrainians this stubborn, when the EU wants their economic ass and will in the long term be detrimental for them ?
Because Ukrainians want to be like Poland and not like Bulgaria. Problem is, Poland isn't the way it is because of the EU but because it's of superior societal stock. Ukraine's societal stock is the same as Bulgaria. So it won't end up as Poland 2.0 but as Bulgaria 2.0. Only they don't know it, because people generally overestimate themselves.
>How much grain was burned and lost ?Will grain trade stop completely ?
No mass global crisis will occur. Currently the world economy is in a rough spot but the supply issues underlying it all are transitory and will not last beyond 2023 for simple reasons--the supply issues are already being solved, with the chip shortage already going away.
Will you give a speech with your awesome analytics in Russian Kharkov or Odessa?
Bro, Donetsk is already being shelled by Ukraine from more than 1 direction, which means your front is collapsing. For you. You have to forget about Donetsk, let alone Kharkiv or Odesa
just 2 more sanctions
just 2 more weeks
> which means your front is collapsing
Which means hohols decided to use some ammo for some good old terrorism. How's Severodonetsk-Lysychansk front doing? Still waiting for the MASSIVE counterattack promised like 2 weeks ago?
DNR politicians are already coping that they're shelled by their own people themselves because they don't want to admit that the front has collapsed. Look it up. Why would you shell your own city? I'm talking about the fact that Donetsk isn't being shelled from just 1 direction now.
Means Ukrainian forces have already entered, not just commandos but armor as well. It's looking really bad as the southern push intensities; if a single UA tank can wipe out the power pylons it will sever the railroad power system holding Russian logistics together. It could also spawn a regional power blackout if the main grid is unprotected against AC desynchronization. I hope Russia upgraded the power lines during their occupation otherwise things are about to get very gnarly as Russian wire communications go down. Maybe they should have built radio communications like the west did?
Go ahead, link your amazing garden gnomernalist source where you read such nonsense
>1 hr
>no response
Yeah, op is retarded.
Pic related is my source. 2 seconds delay between the sound of arty and impact. Not coming from the West.
>Twatter
Kys. Take some other plebbitors with you while you do
>Good ol terrorism
Says the russian whos people have been raping and pillaging in every war you've been in, just like the Mongols taught you. Your whole entire system is based on the khanates, till this day.
>muh rape
Ukraine fired the woman that was the source of all the "Russian soldiers rape children" claims
I'll leave it to you to find out why, brainwashed moron
I was referencing WW2 and Afghanistan imbecile. I have family members that served there in the 80s, I'm not some random "American", your garden gnome ruski subversion isn't going to work on me you ass backwards cunt. You should really check the news on the rape situation and stop listening to RT you channel 1 cuck.
>You should really check the news on the rape situation and stop listening to RT
Retarded burger that trust his alphabet news agencies.
>omg u freakin evil unwholesome chuds, just watch CNN and trust them, like, do you really think CNN is lying, like, wtf??!?!
>Afghanistan
takes one to know one, huh? Didn't your soldiers report of locals doing some gacha-gazi or whatever?
>ww2
Not sure about that one, it probably can't even be tested properly because Russians lived in East Germany for long period of time and definitely got mixed with locals.
>muh rape
Seriously? After that bitch got fired? After hohols admitted she was too fucked up in head even for them?
>Bro, Donetsk is already being shelled by Ukraine from more than 1 direction, which means your front is collapsing.
Lol you delusional retarded homosexual
>Ukraine retaking Crimea and Donbas at best
Oh yes, the return of Crimea and the Donbass, which is part of Russia, which has nuclear parity, which implies the use of nuclear weapons if the integrity of the country is threatened
I'm really struck by such imbeciles. Are all of you really that stupid over there?
Hell, if it's so easy, why doesn't the west take Kaliningrad? What's the matter, are nuclear weapons in the way?
How the hell is Crimea different from Kaliningrad?
2 things are certain:
Crimea and Donbas are internationally recognized as part of Ukraine. Crimea is recognized by NO ONE as part of Russia. Not a single country.
Ukraine will destroy the Kerch Strait bridge and sever your connection with Crimea unless you're planning to do a lot of landings.
These 2 things are certainties. How you want to cope with them is your choice.
>Crimea is recognized by NO ONE as part of Russia. Not a single country.
Even Google Maps recognizes Crimea as part of Russia.
>Ukraine will destroy the Kerch Strait bridge and sever your connection with Crimea
Lol. They'd have to get there first (which they can't).
>Even Google Maps recognizes Crimea as part of Russia.
then drop the vpn because only russian Google Maps shows that
>Lol. They'd have to get there first (which they can't).
They will.
As I said, how you cope with reality is your choice. Kerch Strait bridge will be destroyed. If you want to respond to that with a nuke, so be it, but lemme tell you, the end will not be favorable for you.
Russia has a """no first strike""" doctrine except for when its very existence is at stake. If you think losing Crimea means your existence is at stake, again, what I said in the paragraph above. If you don't, good job, because it isn't.
Realistically, the provision is there so that no one conventionally strikes Moscow. You do recognize the orders of magnitude we're talking about here now then? Crimea. Moscow. I can understand committing a suicide instead of handing over Moscow to your enemy, but nothing else.
>only russian Google Maps shows that
Why would you lie about something so easily verifiable by everyone?
It just makes you look retarded and delusional.
Agreed. Google maps are super worried about not being controversial so they don't lose a whole country as a customer base. So in cases of territorial disputes they will always appear to side with the country who claims that territory when the service is accessed from that specific country. If the maps are checked from a third country there'll just be a shit ton of dotted lines. Check China, India, and Pakistan borders.
The dotted line around Crimea has been there since 2014 though.
Google also needs to update the whole India/Bangladesh border, because a lot of those enclaves have been resolved but still show up on this toothpasteland-IP.
Why would you lie about something so easily verifiable by everyone?
It just makes you look retarded and delusional.
Jannies, please rangeban this pole for being completely retarded.
>>Even Google Maps recognizes Crimea as part of Russia.
>>Why would you lie about something so easily verifiable by everyone? It just makes you look retarded and delusional.
"On April 12, 2014, Google Maps was updated to reflect the 2014 Crimean crisis. Crimea is shown as the Republic of Crimea in Russia and as the Autonomous Republic of Crimea in Ukraine. All other versions show a dotted disputed border.[33]"
Why would you lie about something so easily verifiable by everyone? It just makes you look retarded and delusional.
Jannies, please rangeban this rusn-word's VPN for being completely retarded.
n-word, your English skills are absolutely retard pole-tier shit. I don't know what you mean by the quote but all it is saying is that crimea is shown as this and as that to reflect the other.
Yeah, Crimea is only shown as Russian in Russia. So I'm right. As always.
An idiot who blatantly contradicts himself will obviously think he's right.
Quit talking and go back to toilet cleaning, fucking trash.
nothing will happen. you know nothing about the situation. stop embarrassing yourself
Why do you claim to know Ukrainians more than me?
flag
You're just the Crimean tard then. How many Crimeans still keep their old Ukrainian passport around? Why?
😉
Not a Crimean, I'm from Kiev actually. You come across as an extremely naive zoomer who doesn't have the slightest idea about the pro-russian sentiments people on those territories harbor. Not mentioning them actively receiving Russian passports as we speak. Ukraine won't lay a finger on those territories, it's a done deal. And if it does, then a rain of hell fire will be unleashed on Bankova street, and the war will be over. There's no scenario where Ukraine wins this war. Heavy concessions will be made and they are well underway
>You come across as an extremely naive zoomer who doesn't have the slightest idea about the pro-russian sentiments people on those territories harbor.
There is an easy way to measure it. Only pro-russians are left in abandoned towns and cities on the eastern front. the population of Severodonetsk the easternmost city of Ukraine right now was 100k before the war and is in the thousands now.
So that's how many pro-russians there have been in the easternmost city of Ukraine
oh, you were only talking about Crimea. but you're from the capital. why do you act like an expert on the locals there? i frankly couldn't say much about my own compatriots from the most distant regions
What I do know is that many if not most Crimeans still hold onto their Ukrainian passports, which only means one thing.
My point is, when the time comes, the population won't do shit. Russians are slave cattle. The law of the steppe prevails in ther mind--if you manage to break me, I will serve you loyally (chechens also follow it).
When you cut Crimea off from Russia and take the Russian army there as POWs, what do you have left? Old people, children, women. They won't do anything. The men are poor and have no arms. Crimea was part of Ukraine since 1957 and in the 1991 referendum voted to remain in Ukraine.
Shouldn't you be in ukraine fighting?
>why do you act like an expert on the locals there?
Common knowledge + I regularly talk to people who live there. You are truly delusional if you ever had doubts about their allegiance to Russia lol.
>when the time comes
it won't
I never said that Crimeans consider themselves Ukrainian. Only that they won't do shit when Ukraine returns it.
>it won't
Well, since at least you're Ukrainian, that means you do understand that your country will zealously fight for Donbas and Crimea? it already is. It's not like Ukraine can rest claims to Crimea either because Crimea is a major security threat for Ukraine
>they won't do shit
They won't have to, the Russian army will
> will zealously fight for Donbas and Crimea?
zeal has a tendency to run out. we are not ISIS, Ukrainians long for normalization.
The Russian army will what? When the land corridor is severed and the Kerch strait bridge destroyed?
>zeal has a tendency to run out. we are not ISIS
I know Ukrainians. You are ISIS.
#
Exactly this. Looking at the demands of Russia and checking their geographical importance as well as resources (especially farmable land), the reasons become quite obvious. They’ve been invading some less important territories, but occupying those costs more than it is worth, just like the rest of the Ukraine - even the more western land that’d create value is too close to the NATO countries, which means an increased defensive budget and interferences.
>he thinks crimea still gets ukrainian flags on pol
lol
On /int it does tho
>Crimea is recognized by NO ONE as part of Russia
Crimea is recognized as Russia by Russia, which is sufficient
I thought they were autonomous republics? Russia isn't nuking anybody over donbas or crimea. Besides if they did, the entire world would turn against them.
I don't think you understand, Russia will absolutely throw nukes around if they get cucked hard enough in Ukraine. They've chosen the schizo path.
>Ukraine destroys crimea bridge
I have a feeling that if ukies would attack a bridge, which is Vlad brainchild, the consequences will never be the same.
Im not talking Kiev. Im afraid some airports in Poland might be struck.
>But muh article 5!
Shut up n-word. Noone gonna eleminate Whole world becouse of Poland.
>I have a feeling that if ukies would attack a bridge, which is Vlad brainchild, the consequences will never be the same.
Here's the deal: you use a nuke in Ukraine, NATO lands in Ukraine. Escalation goes both ways.
>you use a nuke in Ukraine,
>NATO lands in Ukraine.
>NATO gets cancer
>Outside of Ukraine-Russia? No.
in case you missed it, there was essentially an ultimatum in December, where Russia demanded NATO to go back to 1997 borders
iirc, someone at the top also said that a "military-technical" answer would follow in case of a no, which is open to interpretation
and that NATO being close to Russia's border is a long-term existential security risk
therefore Ukraine is just the beginning
Yes, and Iran wants to destroy Israel.
You didn't think you were superior to Iran, did you? Ohnono
the main difference is that Russia can send your country into stone age by just targeting electric grid with conventional missiles
again, only Russia decides what is a security threat for it
it decided that Poland being in NATO is a long-term existential threat
it never made such ultimatums before until now
so I doubt it would do it and then not have a plan B in case of a "no"
and you have an illusion that "the white man" is willing to sacrifice himself to defend your NATO membership
again, since US military extension so close to Russia is a long-term existential threat
it will do whatever it takes to secure its future
and I think you will not like it
Russia's hands are untied now
it will go all the way
>Existencial threat
Kek
have fun fighting against NATO then. except you won't because Putin isn't as retarded as you. though he is quite retarded for starting this war
NATO is a paper Tiger. Underequipped and not homogenous with lots of infighting and different goals for every member country. US army is tranny diverse and tired of war after nonstop participating or causing conflicts all over the world. Better let Russia join the EU or NATO if they want and be done with it. This whole thing is just retarded.
Russia has war with Ukraine for similar reasons Germany attacked Poland 1939.
NATO is too busy doing shit like Gladio.
>I cannot know that, but, what I am certain of, is that the war will end up with a status quo ante at worst and Ukraine retaking Crimea and Donbas at best.
Poletard toilet cleaner having his fantasies on the morning, lol
>>Will it expand ?
>Outside of Ukraine-Russia? No.
>>Will Poland get directly involved ? Will they take a chunk ?
>If Belarus intervenes it might.
Toilet n-word contradicting himself in the next statement.
> No mass global crisis will occur.
Yeah, keep believing that.
You've proven to not know shiht and you're just high on refugee copium
>and Ukraine retaking Crimea and Donbas at best
>at best
kek
To retake Crimea they just need to sever the land corridor which is as hard as retaking Volnovakha. The kerch strait bridge is a formality.
>to retake Crimea they need to sever the land corridor
>somehow Crimea wasn't lost before land corridor was a thing
Are you retarded or what? Right now Ukraine has 0 fleet to stop sea shipments. They might use some of their missile systems, but they have limited supply of that and can't make more because Kalibrs destroyed their entire military industry.
Ukraine sank your flagship (and 3rd largest warship) without a fleet you dumb vatn-word ahahaha what was that about the buoyancy?
>muh Moskva ship
They damaged the ship. Then the storm came and Moskva slowly sank. Reputation damage is indeed high, but for operation itself losing a floating missile launcher with radars isn't critical. Russian army just settled their radars on Snake island and that's it.
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You don't have the balls to keep fighting and hold onto Crimea though.
чoмy нe нa фpoнтe, Tapac? Зeлибoбa yжe и бaб гpeбёт.
Can you repeat that in a human language?
If you got from the correct source, you should know the end date. Fake and gay.
Are European leaders as retarded as they've come across?
worse.
Are we witnessing a molotov-ribbentrop like pact between putin and the usa to split ukraine between the east and the west, like what happened to poland before ww2?
I hope so. Fuck Ukraine!
letting western Ukraine remain under US would be akin to a big Minsk 3
another frozen conflict with the same outcome as current conflict
and since Russia's aim is to denazify and demilitirize all of Ukraine, there won't be such scenario
only full capitulation is acceptable
there will not be Bandera parades, everyone involved in war crimes since 2014 will be brought to justice or will be forced to flee
>only full capitulation is acceptable
Russbro i have a sad news. Your army is incapable of achieving it. After three months the frontline is stalled and you had to lift the siege of kiev because you hadn't enough numbers. You will have to compromise and take donbass and the land bridge to crimea
>Russbro i have a sad news. Your army is incapable of achieving it.
you have a false assumption that the aim of forces by Kiev was to capture it (without Zelensky and other elites being there)
if you didn't notice the shift in the media about the conflict, I can't help you
Holy shit will you faggets ever face reality and just be fucking truthful. Your entire state media did a 180 on the occupation of kiev. Every single top military brass in russia guaranteed a quick take over. It wa so pathetic they still cope about it on russian TV now.
>Every single top military brass in russia guaranteed a quick take over.
source me up
Ciao scemo piddino, mi raccomando la quarta dose del vaccino a settembre eh!
Russia didn't call its conscripts to war and not even half of their regular soldiers and they didn't unleash all of the arms and weapon systems they have.
If there was maidan of independence, why Ukraine fired prosecutor when Biden told them to.
>If there was maidan of independence
There was, for it was not a coup but a wave of massive protests that turned violent and ended with Yanukovych fleeing to Russia BEFORE getting impeached.
Question is, if they wanted independence, why they fired prosecutor who was looking into corruption scheme when foreign political figure told them to ?
oy vey, stop asking goy
>for it was not a coup but a wave of massive protests that turned violent
Were you in Kiev when it happened? (Because I was, and I can tell you it wasn't a protest).
Pic related isn't a protest? There were 500k+ demonstrations regularly from December to February 2013. A total of a few million people participated in them.
Dumb Yanukovych opened fire on students first, and used Berkut and Titushki. A total of 108 civilians died, more than during infamous martial law in Poland between 1981 and 1983.
Snipers only killed 12 people when 108 civilians were killed in total by the authorities. The phone call was about Paet reporting to Catherine Ashton the rumors he had heard on the ground. To me it makes no sense for the snipers to be related either to the Ukrainian population (there was no need for them to escalate) or the Russian government (no need to escalate either, Russians would've prefered the protests to die down than stoke them) so my theory is that the snipers were used by Yanukovych in a tactic to terrorize civilians on Maidan and make them flee in panic.
>Dumb Yanukovych opened fire on students first
He's completely fallen for the pilpul. What else could I have expected from such a retarded & delusional pole?
Time for you to go pick lettuce, pole. And don't forget to clean my toilets.
Why does a rusn-word who was caught redhanded on lying
keep on yapping? Mods I've already asked you to ban his VPN 🙁
No (You) for (You) either 🙁
it doesn't chance the fact that police was killed by gunshot wounds
who killed them?
by that time Euromaidan was dying out
then the killing started
and what do you know
soon after we a see a coup
so who benefited from these killings?
certainly not Yanukovich or Russia
>Paet reporting to Catherine Ashton the rumors
it wasn't some rumor, he talked to a "medical doctor"
was there ever a proper investigation on who shot the police?
again, feel free to read the "scientific report":
"This mass killing of the protesters and the mass shooting of the police that preceded it led to the overthrow of the pro-Russian government of Viktor Yanukovych"
"This study establishes a precise timeline for various events of the massacre, the locations of both the shooters and the government snipers, and the specific timeline and locations of nearly 50 protesters’ deaths."
"This academic investigation concludes that the massacre was a false flag operation, which was rationally planned and carried out with a goal of the overthrow of the government and seizure of power."
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/266855828_The_Snipers'_Massacre_on_the_Maidan_in_Ukraine
the killing started when Yanukovych opened fire on students remaining at Maidan when the protests were dying down
>the killing started when Yanukovych opened fire on students remaining at Maidan when the protests were dying down
Berkut was literally standing there taking hits from Molotov cocktails through out the Euromaidan
and we are to believe that Yanukovich would order not to arrest the stundends or disperse, but to kill them
and which would still not explain how the police died from gunshot wounds
I think you should go back to plebbit with your blue pills
you are right at home there
>Berkut was literally standing there taking hits from Molotov cocktails through out the Euromaidan
Standard practice at angry mass protests. Have you seen France?
Glad we've come to agreement then. So will you have a nice day now that I've dismantled every pro-Russian argument there is?
>Source Russian Shill
Should of check the name, Ivan Katchanovski, instead of acting like a lying, subversive fucking garden gnome.
Go on youtube, there's hundreds of videos proving you faggets were behind that, from russian sources themselves none the less.
>Should of check the name
learn english, fucking subhuman
> Ivan Katchanovski
So what?
> there's hundreds of videos proving you faggets were behind that
Show them.
Pic related isn't a protest? There were 500k+ demonstrations regularly from December to February 2013. A total of a few million people participated in them.
Dumb Yanukovych opened fire on students first, and used Berkut and Titushki. A total of 108 civilians died, more than during infamous martial law in Poland between 1981 and 1983.
Snipers only killed 12 people when 108 civilians were killed in total by the authorities. The phone call was about Paet reporting to Catherine Ashton the rumors he had heard on the ground. To me it makes no sense for the snipers to be related either to the Ukrainian population (there was no need for them to escalate) or the Russian government (no need to escalate either, Russians would've prefered the protests to die down than stoke them) so my theory is that the snipers were used by Yanukovych in a tactic to terrorize civilians on Maidan and make them flee in panic.
I was there and it was a protest. There's whole videos exposing the snipers firing on the crowd and how they planted counter protesters to encite violence. Russia uses these same tactics today thru countless leftist movements. Russia had a field that with the whole George floyd shit.
0:50
not to mention this report and the fact that BOTH protesters and police were killed (who was shooting at police?):
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/266855828_The_Snipers'_Massacre_on_the_Maidan_in_Ukraine
just before the coup, Yanukovich signed an agreement with the opposition and a few western powers where he agreed to hold new elections by the end of the year
he left for Kharkov, removed forces from Kiev and the next thing he finds out is that the coup happened and he can't return to Kiev safely
and before all this, EU was sanctioning politicians from his party
you have no clue about the conflict
at least find and watch "8 months in Ukraine" first part
The guy was so clean and innocent he fled the country back to his sponsors, not even his home of donbas.
And the russians were never planning to take kiev to right ? They just had yanukovich sitting in Belarus for nothing.
Why are you faggets such open fucking liars? Atleast us Americans own up to the fuck shit we did in Iraq and Palestine but you faggets think you're incorruptible servents of law and justice. Thats how rotted your countries is.
Check the names behind those sources by the way, real fucking credible, kek.
>how rotted your countries is.
learn english, non white subhuman
>And the russians were never planning to take kiev to right ?
All in due time, don't worry
"Ivan Katchanovski"
Blow a fucking dick and kys.
>It wasnt a coup.
>We just used violence to oust the elected leader
>But it wasn't a coup
>Oh and we burned people alive in odesssa for disagreeing
>But it still wasn't a coup
>Oh and the cia pushed and encouraged this
>But it wasn't a coup
Using violence to oust a leader isn't a coup. It's called a revolution. It usually happens after the leader uses violence against the population. Shit happens.
>Using violence to oust a leader isn't a coup. It's called a revolution
A revolution is just what a successful coup is called by the victors, you utter mong
No, a coup d'etat is when a junta takes over a country.
>A coup d'état (/ˌkuːdeJˈtɑː/ ( listen); French for 'stroke of state'), often shortened to coup in English (also known as an overthrow), is a seizure and removal of a government and its powers. Typically, it is an illegal seizure of power by a political faction, rebel group, military, or a dictator.
>a seizure and removal of a government and its powers
>by a political faction
Go back to cleaning toilets
Yes, and that seizure is always accomplished by military means. A political faction leading the masses to overthrow the leader isn't a coup but a revolution. Maidan was absolutely massive in scale.
He also wasn't forced to flee to Russia. It was his voluntary decision. He probably expected a Russian intervention to sort everything out. Little did he know.
>and that seizure is always accomplished by military means.
That describes 2014 coup, which paramilitary organizations were key to its success
>A political faction leading the masses to overthrow the leader isn't a coup but a revolution.
Next thing this poletard is going to say that Maidan was ordained by God himself and every Ukrainian child shed a tear once they learned they were free.
Maidan coup was a CIA operation, not a mass proletarian revolt like you are trying to claim.
>He also wasn't forced to flee to Russia.
Pretending to be retarded/naive is such a feminine trait, dumb poletard toilet cleaner
>paramilitary organizations
yes, called Berkut and Titushki
>called Berkut and Titushki
Aha, so you are retarded one. Berkut is basically SWAT, Titushki are typical "concerned citizens" of authoritarian state.
Coup d'état: a sudden decisive exercise of force in politics
especially : the violent overthrow or alteration of an existing government by a small group.
Toilet n-word wrong again.
The small group in the picture:
(there were dozens such small groups between dec 2013 and feb 2014)
Your toilet n-word asss said by a junta, you disgusting liar. And as if any color revolutions was bottom up, you retarded subhuman. They were all orchestrated by a small group of political actors in some geo-political plan.
>>Oh and we burned people alive in odesssa for disagreeing
when will this meme die? rusn-words blockaded themselves, and when fire started could not escape, people outside shouted to them that fire has started and tried to get them out of there, while rusn-words bombarded people below with furniture and bottles because they believed that they wanted to get them by lying about the fire. when rusn-words finally got that there is a fire it was too late to do anything.
Truly a comic end to these commie rusn-words
will open society hq be destroyed
Hi! One question has been bugging me for a long time, why didn't it start sooner?
I protested even in 2016 (after the genocide of 2015, the second wave of refugees in Russia), people around me heard refugee stories and volunteered. Why didn't Europe deploy troops against Ukraine after 1-st genocide of russians in east ukraine, himan rights and so on...? Why did Russia do the same (do nothing for 8 years) ?
Does this look like a pact to exterminate the Slavs?
This will forever remain a mystery to me.
why didn't Russia interfere for 8 years?
the main understanding is that Ukraine, the west and Donbass republics signed Minsk 2, which was a path to peacefully resolve the conflict
Ukraine sabotaged it, leaving only one options
but it looks like the main reason why Russia didn't act back than as it is now is that Russia was not ready:
neither for all out sanctions, neither to deal with NATO
neither Kinzhal was ready and many other missiles and stuff in needed numbers
neither was there agreement with China that it wouldn't turn against Russia
now the main stuff was ready and there was no time
Better late than never
How did ukraine sabotage it ? Russian soldiers were in donbas since 2014 and didn't pull out after the agreement, while also funding rebels, therefore breaking the agreement. Thats not evening mentioning that russia are known for back stabbing every agreement they sign. Forcing ukraine to sell the majority of its natural gas export in order to have some peace is the definition of sabotage. For the russian its their way or no way and everyone is a pawn to be used. The Kremlin is by far one of the most untrustworthy governments in the world.
why do you suck on penises of homeless people many times every day?
Ok!
Sure!
I often wonder observing things... does Rjssia really comprehend fully and accept things as they are given their survival depends on it?
I have concluded that neither US or Russia do so!
I cant decide which is worse in that aspect!
But cabal is their enemy, and deals can't be fully made to aid eachother... and hope thus far lead to severe loss, reality is grim and it appears goals are not set in stone as they should be on either side ro ensure reasonable survival of civilization as opposed to just humanity!
So, really, in your opinion do you think Russia understands truly and accepts truly the reality in order to ensure they don't miss this whatever it is, call it barly opportunity?
Ehich may swayUS to take their opportunity and save civilization, or cause hell, either way hell is coming so trying will be risky, but it would take full comprehension and acceptance of the state of things, but do you this Russia understands and accepts the reality?
lol
Nah, but I will hear you out, but nah, all sides are Idiots.
>I often wonder observing things... does Rjssia really comprehend fully and accept things as they are given their survival depends on it?
Russians are ruled by emotion, wishful thinking and an deep seated inferiority complex which makes them overly ambitious and eager to prove themselves to the world.
They get very zealous about this ambition, until they suffer a humiliating loss and forget about it.
Case in point:
Crimean War
>ambition to retake Constantinople because muh russian empire so powerful third rome DEAD
Russo-Japanese war
>ambition to show to the world that at least you're more powerful than Japan who are totally subhumans compared to you DEAD
Polish-Soviet war
>ambition to extend communism from Lisbon to Vladivostok DEAD
Soviet times
>ambition to defeat the US and enable world revolution DEAD
the end date is the one thing your should know
hey volodymyr
Is the Ghost of Kyiviv real?
Here is my prediction
USA gets nuked but only leftist cities
EU politicians will hang and then comes massive ethnic civil war
Zelensky was an idiot for trusting the Americans, who as we speak are beginning to throw him under the bus.
He trusted anglos and garden gnomes, the two groups one should not trust under any circumstance. Or maybe he knows they will protect him, because no matter how untrustworthy garden gnomes are, they will cover for one of their own, and he is using white Ukrainian lives as a way to endear him with international garden gnomery
Is it true that Zalensky baited a Russian invasion by pushing away from a treaty back in 2019, knowing that the destruction a russian invasion would cause would make Ukraine unattractive as a NATO partner, and make the UN stop pressuring him to join? I heard that was his plan, only the second part fell through: he was unable to get the US to come in and do the fighting for his country while he enjoyed the free money and goods.
Nope.
The amount of russian subversion, lies, disingenuousness, and cope in this thread is marvelous.
This is why everyone hates you, this is why all your neighbors hate you. You really act like fucking garden gnomes, and russian garden gnomes are the worst to deal with. Guess who holds all the power in your country too, the russian garden gnome.
seethe more non white subhuman. Learn english first
What are the goals of Germany and France? Why they tolerate current treatment from US and UK?
What treatment? The division between France and Germany and America and the UK is Russian wishful thinking. It's the same team, just different tenacity.
I asked question first, then understood that you are low intelligent or misinformed person. So I wouldn't bother you explaining how this conflict damaged France and German spheres of influence.
Their sphere of influences were only damaged through their own timid actions. If you don't lead and don't even want to lead, you won't be seen as a leader. How is this surprising? And I repeat, what Western treatment?
the voice in your head told you that? and why is a russian vpn or gastarbeiter in the netherlands calling me a pole in poland a toilet cleaner? puzzling
>Berkut is basically SWAT
since when is SWAT used to gun down mass protests with live fire?
>Titushki are typical "concerned citizens" of authoritarian state.
so a paramilitary
>What are the goals of Germany and France?
What is the goal of my dogs? Do the bidding of their masters
Because we are occupied by US since 45 and ex-DDR since 89.
Lol this guy thinks Ukraine can take back Crimea. Good luck fighting the entire population
Poles are so fucking delusional. Worst case is Crimea plus dpr/lpr cede to Russia. Best case we get novorussia. From a common sense standpoint of looking at relative strength.
>Lol this guy thinks Ukraine can take back Crimea. Good luck fighting the entire population
Once you cut through the land corridor and destroy the Kerch Strait bridge, Crimea is up for grabs.
So to capture Crimea, Ukraine needs to sever the land connection, that is the challenge here, nothing else.
And that Ukraine will achieve.
>Once Russia cuts through Ukraine, Moldove, Romania, Hungary & Austria, Germany is up for grabs.
>So to capture Germany, Russia needs to destroy 5 countries. That is the challenge here, nothing else.
>And that Russia will achieve
Clinically insane. Meds. Now.
There's a difference between cutting through Ukraine, Moldova, Romania, Hungary & Austria, and simply retaking the town of Volnovakha (and then Mariupol)
There really isn't. There's about the same amount of resistance.
Right now yes. Do you expect the flow of arms to stop? It certainly would be convenient for Russia, but not so much for the West, so why do you assume the flow to stop?
Flows usually stop when the source is drained.
> "The depleted stockpiles resulting from the military support we provided to Ukraine are the most obvious example of our shortfalls," - Josep Borrell
> "It will take years to rebuild the Javelins we shipped to Ukraine" - Antony J Blinken
Only Javelin and Stinger stockpiles are depleted and America doesn't rely on them at all in the way they conduct warfare.
Yeah, it is much more likely that Russia will be in Berlin. Like someone already told you, Russia considers Crimea to be a integral part of their country, and it is part of the nuclear deterrence strategy of Russia to deploy nuclear weapons to protect their territorial integrity.
Even if captain Zelensky wielded the hammer of Thor, Ukraine would still lose because they would get nuked.
Already explained:
Why would they want Germany? To get access to Turkish and Syrian welfare receivers? The only halfway relevant thing in Germany would be the Hamburg port to get access to North Sea. Can't think of much else.
And the ghost of queef will transport captain Zelensky and pickle jar babushka to vladivostok to attack it in a pincer move, to force Puthanos to come out of his lair and kill him in a epic duel
imagine joking about the ghost of kyiv not existing and not downing a few planes when the ukies sunk your fucking flagship (and 3rd biggest warship overall)
I don't have to imagine, i am currently doing it, poletard toilet cleaner
What the sinking of Moskva told us, the smart ones that lay off their emotions and analyze things more clearly, is that surface ships are increasingly relevant, mostly because of the development of anti-ship missiles. Which makes the traditional power projection of your overlords, the US Navy with its carrier forces, increasingly irrelevant.
Not really, all you are saying is that captain zelesnky will pick up the hammer of Thor and somehow turn back the tide of the orcs. But reality says otherwise. And again, Russian nuclear deterrence policy says that nuclear weapons will be used if the Russian territorial integrity is jeopardized.
Your posts are just emotional wishful thinking and Marvel tier turnarounds
>What the sinking of Moskva told us, the smart ones that lay off their emotions and analyze things more clearly, is that surface ships are increasingly relevant, mostly because of the development of anti-ship missiles.
Yes, Russia is only winning, even if it loses, because it means it's taking lessons to be better in the future! Or so they said after losing the Crimean War and undertaking a military reform... and then losing the Russo-Japanese war.
>Not really, all you are saying is that captain zelesnky will pick up the hammer of Thor and somehow turn back the tide of the orcs
No, they've already laid out what they need. 1000 howitzers. America has already supplied 108 m777s and that's just 1 model. 1000 howitzers is 33 howitzers per each NATO member.
when nukes
mah nook is a spook
literally
>
you fool. everyone knows nukes dont exist
in general i don't get why LULZ (of all places) still peddles the purely emotional nook argument. must be russian shills
>even if it loses
But Russia is winning.
>because it means it's taking lessons to be better in the future!
I'm telling you that your master main source of international power projection, its navy, is increasingly obsolete
>1000 howitzers is 33 howitzers per each NATO member.
Which will be coming any day now. And btw, hohols had these numbers of military equipment pre-war, and it still didn't matter all that much.
And there is the issue that hohols don't know how to use these weapons, and even if the west trained tens of thousands of hohols to use them, the Ukrainian army military doctrine would have to be reformed to use these weapons effectively, and hohols do not have the manpower or the time to do this
>But Russia is winning.
Winning how? It hasn't gained new land since 1 month ago. Ukraine has. That's a net loss. Russia is losing.
>its navy, is increasingly obsolete
Russia's navy is obsolete, yes, that much is obvious. To everybody. How that relates to U.S. Navy, I'm not sure.
>Which will be coming any day now
Sure. What obstacles do you see? NATO's only apprehension is not to be seen as a party/co-combatant to this conflict. It's succeeding at this. That's the only apprehension. Nothing else. You do realize this?
> Winning how? It hasn't gained new land since 1 month ago. Ukraine has. That's a net loss. Russia is losing.
Literally the opposite of everything you say is true. Russia is making steady progress in Donetsk and Lugansk
The steady progress:
(no gains since the gif ends btw)
>Winning how?
Killing hohols, taking hohol territory...
>Ukraine has.
ahahahhaha, delusion. The great kherson offensive, lead by ghost of kiiiiiiiiiiiv, is getting near Moscow right now
>Russia's navy is obsolete, yes, that much is obvious. To everybody. How that relates to U.S. Navy, I'm not sure.
Poletard subhuman playing dumb to avoid facing arguments. Such a feminine behavior....
Stop sucking mutt cock, toilet cleaner
>What obstacles do you see?
reality
>NATO's only apprehension is not to be seen as a party/co-combatant to this conflict. It's succeeding at this.
Wrong and delusional. Everyone other than feminine westerners who love to hide behind wordplays and definitions understand that this war is Russia vs NATO
implying the war wasnt planned out by all parties involved beforehand. jwy0r
on top of this does anyone actually think putin would say the word "denazification" who else than american garden gnomes would say that. he was instructed to say that about the invasion
>losing the Russo-Japanese war
we lost that war and ww1 to the tsar being a fucking moron and not keeping the population in check. There’s only so much you can achieve if you don’t crack down on protests with an increasingly brutal iron fist. Without a revolution we could easily continue said war because there were a lot of unused reserves the military could go through, while japan was all but depleted. Okhrana should have just eliminated every single commie/socialist scum in the country by shooting them in their heads, but didn’t do it. They even funded bolsheviks who ended up taking over in 1918 because okhrana was that stupid. When libshits can speak in public freely, revolutions happen.
they did crack down on protests tho. but that only fueled them. you didn't study your own history?
Kurwa please, revolution of 1905 was crushed so hard Lenin did not expect anything to happen in his lifetime.
It was crushed but the first attempt at crushing it was so retarded it actually caused the whole thing is my point
Ukraine hasn’t taken any territory so far. Russia has barely touched Ukrainian infrastructure. Let’s say Ukraine destroys the bridge. Russia can, in a few hours, destroy every power plant in Ukraine as well as put holes in every major road and rail. Suddenly Ukraine has no transportation and no power for tens of millions.
Russia has been playing nice and Ukraine isn’t exactly on the offensive.
Good place to drop this:
its like you poles dont learn a fucking thing, read some fucking books on the russia/german conflict ape.
Is Russia imperialist in your point of view? Are they stealing resources include pipelines and nuclear power plant because they're corrupt fuckers?
when is your gender transition surgery
Why did Interpol remove Tymoshenko from its wanted list?
You think you know something but you just know what american narrative tell you because poland is just a rump state, germs will rebuild an army and join russia and you will get fucked as usual, russia and germs maybe even france will be the 22nd century superpower thats simple math, your all dazed with ideology and fairy tale but realpolitik is the only thing that matter, ideology serve to orient you in some predefined path by those who created it, real life is very simple, but they will always be idiots like you that overthink and self-approve, at the end you end up on your knee full of tears.
blablablablabla
and hohols are killing russians. seems like both parties are satisfied.
as for taking territory:
Strategically, Russia has achieved 0 objectives since it started the grandest offensive since ww2 two months ago.
>and hohols are killing russians.
But nowhere near enough
>as for taking territory:
Ukraine took none, and keeps losing steadly
>Strategically, Russia has achieved 0 objectives since it started the grandest offensive since ww2 two months ago.
Land bridge towards Crimea is restored, Denazification is progressing, demilitarization is also progressing, and the republics are also being liberated. Lugansk is almost fully liberated, Donests is progressing, fighting in bakhmut as already started, siege of sloviasnk also started, Northern Donestsk is starteing to get liberated...
>Ukraine took none
report status of kharkiv offensive
2 more weeks?
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all [these things] must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 8 All these [are] the beginning of sorrows. 9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. 10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. (Matthew 24:6-14, KJV)
To those who are not saved; Know that the end is nigh and thus not much time remains. All who do not believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour are doomed to end up in the land of fire and remain condemned. If you wish to avoid such a fate, repent, believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour for your Salvation and He will deliver you from evil and save you from burning in the lake of fire forever.
Also I suggest caution regarding other denominations that call themselves Christians. What my faith led me to is non-denominational Christianity but for you God might have a different plan so go where God leads you.
catholics beware as you are in danger of damnation: http://granddesignexposed.com/sun/baal.html
Something worth watching if you have the time:
Dumb christcuck, all of this applies to every single point in recorded history, which is why there are always some retards shouting how the world is endijg and guess what? Nothing ever happens
God flooded the world. Then He destroyed babylon. This time He will destroy almost everything and send people to the everlasting lake of fire if they remain damned.
I would suggest you see to it that you do not end up there for your sake and Repent and Believe on Jesus for Salvation.
Say something good about Russia.
Brothers Karamazov is a good book and Stravinsky was a good composer
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kys hohol
What the end date?
Do you know everything about the Ukr war from the beginning?
As I said, the certainty is that the outcome and duration of this war depends solely on the West. The West is kind of the mastermind here. As it's always been everywhere on Earth since the beginning of time.
With determination and supplies, this war can be finished within 1 year.
>I know EVERYTHING about the Russia-Ukraine conflict from the beginning to the end
>Polish flag
Pass. You're probably extremely biased.
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>when Ukraine returns it.
With what army? With what resources? With what economy?
Not with yours, that's for certain.
How will it end?
Likelihood:
>status quo ante: 15%
>donbas but not crimea: 40%
>donbas and crimea: 45%
>another coping butthurt belt intellectual
Get in the empire, pawel.
((ABC's)) had a coupe and installed gnomish actor as leader. Zionists terrorist militias evacuated garden gnomes, breedable women and foreign minorities out of danger and at gun point pushed none gnomish Ukrainian natives into bombs and bullets. Just more garden gnomes murdering goes. There's nothing more to it. You have no interesting information.
Where is Zelensky like 80% of the time?