I-is this true?
I wouldn't construe it as a "right" to. A lot of the countries where it's illegal to be gay are the ones where you can transition, usually by force/duress as a means to make you no longer gay. A lot of them are also ones with really poor gender equality/rigid gender roles. It's less "being trans is okay" and more "failed males and gay males are turned into women, who we believe are lesser, lesbians are just killed though because we don't entertain the idea of a girl becoming a man".
this, lots of places force transition onto gays
there is literally no other place other than iran, westoid
that's a fucking lie, it's common through the middle east and muslim world
its almost like tranny shit is just right-winder strict gender role garbage. who knew.
you trannies are going to set us back literaly centuries.
go back where?
As it should be.
Think about it logically for a minute. As a group, what good thing have gay men ever done for humanity? Only harm, vast harm on a global scale. And they have the gall to attack others of the LGBT, for no reason other than that gays are terrible people and it is their nature to destroy and promote strife. We should really drop the G or no progress will ever be made
>As a group, what good thing have gay men ever done for humanity
arts and entertainment
we're the only people who appreciate the beauty of men, those entitled cunt women certainly don't
Also aids, don't forget aids
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>In 1837, the 28-year-old Abraham Lincoln arrived in Springfield, Illinois, to found a law practice. Almost immediately, he struck up a friendship with a 23-year-old shopkeeper named Joshua Speed. There may have been an element of calculation to this friendship since Joshua’s father was a prominent judge, but the two clearly hit it off. Lincoln rented an apartment with Speed, where the two slept in the same bed. Sources from the time, including the two men themselves, describe them as inseparable.
>Lincoln and Speed were close enough to still raise eyebrows today. Speed’s father died in 1840, and shortly afterward, Joshua announced plans to return to the family plantation in Kentucky. The news seems to have stricken Lincoln. On January 1, 1841, he broke off his engagement with Mary Todd and made plans to follow Speed to Kentucky.
>Speed left without him, but Lincoln followed a few months later, in July. In 1926, writer Carl Sandburg published a biography of Lincoln in which he described the relationship between the two men as having, “a streak of lavender, and spots soft as May violets.”
>He courted three women before getting married. The first died, the second he apparently dumped because she was fat (according to Lincoln: “I knew she was oversize, but now she appeared a fair match for Falstaff”), and the third, Mary Todd, he only married after practically leaving her at the altar a year earlier to follow his male companion to Kentucky.
>Lincoln wrote about women in a cool, detached tone, as if he were a biologist describing a not-particularly interesting species he’d discovered, but he often wrote about men he’d known in a warm, engaging tone that modern readers would take as a sign of great affection.
>It has to be noted, however, that Lincoln wrote like this even about men he personally and politically detested. On at least one occasion, he even described Stephen Douglass – who was not just a political rival, but also a former suitor of Mary Todd – as a personal friend.
right to change gender != right for a tranny to change genders
there exists non-trans reasons someone might need to get their legal sex changed. there exists no non-gay reasons someone might want to get gay married.
>there exists no non-gay reasons someone might want to get gay married.
Ummm there obviously do, same as in straight marriage when they get married out of interest and not for being in love, for example to get the citizenship faster and then you marry someone randomly or arranged, this can be done with same-sex marriage as well then.
no, gays in (italy) at least, want the full fledged church marriage, and be considered the same as hetero couples, with the same rights, they aren't happy with just a contract
the contracts are never actually equal lmao
as it should be, fags should never ever be allowed to adopt children, sadly is allowed in a lot of countries
>Ummm there obviously do, same as in straight marriage when they get married out of interest and not for being in love, for example to get the citizenship faster and then you marry someone randomly or arranged
but you can do all these things much easier with a straight marriage. the only reason you'd do it all with a gay marriage is because you were I dunno, gay maybe? again, there exists no non-gay reason someone might want to get gay married.
in some countries it is illegal to be a gay man and they force you to transition instead. lol
uhh, based department?
oh i know that you ONLY can say Iran, but you are wrong about Iran, transitioning is by no means a get out of jail card, if you have "gay" sex before legal gender change(which first requires srs), it's a crime and you will be punished no matter what sad story you'll conjure.
homosexuality is a sin and a crime in Iran, and as such there is no excuse for it.
in my country you have to get SRS to change your legal gender
that's one country out of 90
Transgender people used to be celebrated without political partisanship as an advancement in medical science, a quirky oddity, and a funny thing for well-adjusted cis folk to laugh at.
Taiwan (Republic of China) literally forced one of their soldiers to transition just so they could say they had a notable tranny before the People's Republic of China did.
The pivot against trans people is a rather recent development.
Binary and passing trans people do not seriously challenge societal status quo, homosexuals do.
I noticed that nobody was REALLY vocal about anti-trans shit (uniquely against anti trans shit, there's plenty of people against the LGBT as a whole of course) until the discourse changed and retarded talking points like "birthing people" began to surface.
It really seems like cis people ONLY hate trans people (again, when they hate trans people specifically and not an all embroiled hatred of the LGBT entirely) it's when a trans person's rhetoric implicates elements of being cis. I heard a cis person say that they hate seeing cis people list their pronouns on bios and stuff because it sends the message that that person's gender is only their gender because they thought about and decided it was so, and not because it was just obvious they were what they were.
straight male here
>I am a woman I want to go in the spaces to every other bio woman
this is what really started to get people angry, trans is seen as a medical condition, a people that suffer, an oddity, you don't hate the sick, but if this sick wants to bring everyone in his sickness then it becomes a problem, you can be a tranny, but as soon as this "affirmation" thing started it became unnatural and bothersome.
Gays can be hated because a lot of reasons, social and religious but the point that made more people angry is
>marriage, for his religious value
>adopting children, a child needs to be rised by a mom and a dad, not by 2 daddies
>it's when a trans person's rhetoric implicates elements of being cis
this describes me pretty well. do what you want in your personal life but ftms on grindr like they belong there or mtfs in women's bathrooms, etc. ~validation~ bullshit piss me off
It's not even that, it's moreso about how trans people simply existing (as a rigid group with a cohesive identity and community and such, not as a simple oddity) implicates cis people. Cis people literally didn't even conceive of themselves as cis, they were just "normal". Cis men knew they were men because they were men. Other people knew they were men because they looked at them and saw they were men. People used the pronouns he/him to address them because those pronouns refer to men, not because he/him are "his" pronouns. Trans rhetoric would have cis people believe they aren't men or women because they're blatantly self evidently born men or women, but because an arbiter "assigned" them to be men or women, and then they after consideration agreed with the assignment.
Men are men. They aren't "cis"men. They weren't assigned male. They didn't observe or decide their internal male gender was the same as their male sex. They didn't even conceptually understand what "gender" is because in their own life experience gender and sex are synonymous and gender is invisible. People call them he and him because it's self evident they're men and that's what you call men, not because they've insisted they be called that.
Cis people hate trans rhetoric that has dual implications for both cis and trans people. Acceptance was unironically higher when it was as simple as "some people for personal reasons want to change their sex".
Would take you more seriously if not
why there are a lot less countries all of a sudden lol?
if you can't change your id, it's de facto illegal. I'm pretty sure that in majority of countries where gay marriage is illegal you simply can't do it, as in it's not a ban, it's just not a thing.
>Marriage requires the possibility of procreation and fags simply cannot marry.
octogenarians can get married
sterile people can get married
>Marriage requires the possibility of procreation
and yet no one ever said that infertile women and men shouldn't be able to marry
take your pills
Without looking at the laws specifically, it's hard to say with any certainty what it actually means
Often, legal recognition for gender changing- or even being allowed to- is reserved for intersex people, not trannies.
Your "marriage" only exists on paper and has no fundamental basis in reality.
You're just playing pretend.
>Marriage by definition cannot be between the same sex.
Who set the definition, you? Cope harder, straggot.
>You're a fucking retard, lol, but then again you probably sodomize yourself so naturally you are a retard
>loser comes back for a second beating
Better bend over.
>can't even make a sensible reply, demands jannies delete the posts
The sad thing is those deleted posts were entirely on topic. You losers can't even defend your perversions so you need censorship and laws against the truth being spoken.
Imagine coming to a thread ranting about your inane delusions and then getting anally devastated when jannies take out the trash and your posts with it.
>Non binary gender
And that's a good thing.
Our time will come anon
Fuck off were not all theyfab trenders, not all gays are sex fiends and not all Trans are pedo rapist
Non-binary is fake ass homosexual shit. I'm pro-LGBT anti-NB because NBs are just fucking dumb cunt girls
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