I mean it's just fucking nasty. Imagine giving your attention and effort to maintaining a relationship with a person who has had sex with someone other then you, I'd rather die.
I gotta say, the idea of dating a non-virgin is disgusting and I don't get why anyone does it
if you go by this logic then you could only date one woman ever
Why would I ever want to date more than one woman? One is enough.
couples tend to split up for various reasons, divorces happen etc
That's why you wait for marriage to have sex. If your marriage fails you either monkmode and live for your hobbies or become a whore since you no longer have any chance of finding love anyways.
Because it's extremely unlikely you'll find someone your first time around where you both continue enjoying each other's company for the rest of your lives.
A thousand times more likely is you'll break up at some point in a year or so.
It's about as retarded as expecting to be good at flying a plane on your first try.
You realize you can have relationships without having sex with everyone you meet right?
not if you are dating
Yes, you can date without having sex.
lmao no you cannot, is it summer already just how fucking new are you?
you normally fuck on second date (at least that was the custom during my time) nowadays it might be different
You can absolutely date without having sex. How is this a new concept for you?
I honestly never heard of any couples like that
no, european
How is your version of "dating" any different from having a friend? You're going to ruin your most important sexual years because you're hoping one of your friends is the perfect soulmate? You do realize that the no sex before marriage meme was just a form of birth control, right?
>sex on second date
How do two parties just decide this? Assuming you just met this person and suddenly you want to have intercourse with them in the span of maybe two to three weeks. Doesn't this seem like you're rushing into it?
>just met
Usually you know somebody for months or years before dating. Also if you have hormones you're going to naturally have sex with anyone you have become exclusive with. Whether you like it or not, we still have biology.
>Usually you know somebody for months or years before dating
if you know someone for months or years then you have been friendzoned, there is 0 chance of dating that person
Most people are not 12 years old, no.
If you have a life you know lots of people, and you will almost always date someone you know and not some retarded stranger. That's how you know if you are a whore or not.
Nah dude, most people date other people they have met within the past month or so. It's just how the world works now.
I don't know, maybe for people over 40yo its like that, but for people 18 to 35, those who know each other for a long time don't date, if younger people don't hook up during the first few times they meet (in casual setting like party) then there is probably no attraction between them.
That makes no sense unless you are single. Being single might mean you're just retarded.
What does that even mean? Do you go on dates when you are already in relationship?
No. you meet more than 1 person in your life.
Sorry but from what I heard expecting sex after the second date is considered entitled thinking. Unless you are a women, or chad then I would doubt that you can get sex after the second date.
I mean if the first date goes well then and you are both not fat then it is very likely, if it is some blind date and the man is giving very mixed vibes then it likely will never happen. Girls or women want to have just as much as men and if you don't make a move for too long (weeks or months) then you can forget about it
For me it's more about the inconsistency and anachronism of gender expectations in today's day and age that make me uncomfortable with the idea of dating a non-virgin.
The fact that something that was extremely common and almost a requirement for a relationship, now is impossible to find and look upon like wanting a sex slave (in which is a contradiction, how would want a sex slave requires that she doesn't have any sex), and on the other side you are still expected the same old expectations since the beginning of civilization.
There also is the fear of betabuxxing, too.
> if you don't make a move for too long (weeks or months) then you can forget about it
Then I'll risk a sexual harassment accusation, no dice. I'm not Chad and I'm very autistic.
This obviously doesn't apply to you and many on /LULZ/, but it applies to normies
From which generation may I ask you?
millennial
.....
get a life old geezer.
we're on 2023 there are already two generations after you.
The norms changed and the rate of male singleness is rising.
>singleness
just be gay anon women are too much of a headache come let me make your head ache
unfortunately I not very found of male genitalia.
I may courteously decline.
Literally saw this same post 10 years ago (only the date was different), normies are still having sex and there are tons of them, and robots existed back when I was 18. Today normies have much easier time getting girls. Girls today are much more open about sex than before.
again you are lying, by isolating yourself in anecdotes. Or you are lying, or you are from the group who can constantly put it off.
Statistics are against you, and asking it about for the average male will get you the same answers as those statistics.
You are on the internet arguing about statistics instead of at a bar meeting women. You ARE the statistic.
are you baiting?
I won't go "meet women" because there's no women to meet.
Again I'm autistic and I don't want to be charged falsely with sexual harassment.
if you're autistic then how did you learn english? did you get falsely charged for that too?
English is easy, baiting is not.
Show me data and I'll show you mine.
>english is easy
We were having sex long before english was invented.
What do you mean "no women" to meet? Girls are everywhere, especially if you live in the United States. You will not be charged with sexual harassment for putting yourself out there, unless your idea of "putting yourself out there" is going up to a woman and groping her once she shows any interest in you. You still have a lot of potential, Anon; Do not give up, and do not rely on the internet as a safe haven.
You don't meet girls out of the blue, you don't meet anyone out of the blue. It's a bad advice especially if you are autistic. They normally gather on social circles. That's what I meant on there's no ".women to meet". They are gathered on social circles, sometimes even social circles where the average men can't enter.
I'm not a part of a social circle neither I have the social skills at the moment to do that. I'm also chronically unemployed. I'm focusing on things that are more important, and it seems that meeting women is very far on the line to me. I don't want to risk it, I have a very good record of messing things up, and you can't know what you don't know. Also you don't need to grope someone to gather suspicion and being seem as a creep. I don't have that luxury because I'm unemployed and don't have a support structure.
Normies can detect subtle changes on facial expressions on 0,0001s while autistic individuals can on 0,002 s.
I'm not a sociopath (yet) to manipulate people into getting the emotion that I want so I can manipulate them into being my friends. I tried once and I felt dirty.
English is easy for me but people are hard and confuse for me to understand.
It takes 5 minutes to join a social circle. Hence why single people "don't try"
You again are lying. And even if you are telling the truth, in which you don't, it's a normie thing, I don't have the social skills to it.
You are utterly full of shit.
It's not even close to being full of shit.
Happy 30th birthday hay btw, hope your college friends are doing great! That is, if you have any.
>30the birthday
>college
What
Dude straight up I met have met plenty of people with autism who were able to make friends and even get laid. You have a comfort zone, you have a set of defined expectations of what reality is and what women are, that is clearly incorrect, and the only solution? Stop approaching it with a closed mind and closed heart, or as if its a puzzle you have all of the answers to, and admit that you do not know everything. Life itself is a learning experience, and each of us have a lot to learn. I am trying to share with you that you deserve a nice girl. a good life, and hope.
>Dude straight up I met have met plenty of people with autism who were able to make friends and even get laid.
Great that you found a autistic dude who made it. Great he had a social circle and maybe a job, I don't. I need a job first and a social circle.
>Life itself is a learning experience, and each of us have a lot to learn.
Beautiful take, but experience made skeptical of your anime approaches. You don't learn together with people you don't want. you can reject people. That's why social rejects exists. And just as your anecdotal friend -who thankfully became an exception to the statistic of ASD and sex life, in which rivals the sex life of schizophrenic individuals- probably learnt social skills and how to behave well enough, I need enough social skills to get accepted to any social group. And even if it's magic, he magically got in a group by contacts or highschool or something, I don't have this privilege, I don't have a contact of very close people to make me meet and be part of a new social circle. I could do that by manipulating people, but I don't like it I feel dirty.
The last thing I will say to you, my anecdotal friend, is that you deserve better, you still have a lot of potential. and you do not need to manipulate anyone to deserve love. I apologize if I got on your nerves. If you are ever in Las Vegas come and see me. You are clearly smart; You know where I'll be.
Thanks. Maybe one day I'll get there.
You will. An internet stranger personally believes in you. I hang out at the California Casino.
on Fremont Street in Las Vegas, Nevada. No alcohol laws, legal prostitution, every business is 24/7.
I'm a wasted potential from Brazil who got burnout from masking and trying to make older brother not kill himself. I'm a little too far from Las Vegas hahahaha.
But when I finally get out of the hell I'm in you can be sure it'll be the first place I'll go to party.
I'll be here. Don't give up.
Nah you can just bother random girls in public, nothing will happen
They won't do anything
They won't even care unless you're creepy and weird about it
And if you're creepy and weird it'll be because you feel that way, so figure out an experimental trial-based method to get yourself to not feel that way
Be genuine, open and kind in the convo and it'll be fine
Nothing is going to happen to you for being socially assertive, you need to start working on getting over your internal hangups
Thats what im doing... i can do okay without cold approaches so i never developed that skill and i really regret letting all of college go by without it. Luckily i'm only 25 and have a lot of youth left during which to pull.
You won't if you go on a date but if you approach somebody randomly then yeah. I hate current year identity politics just as much as the next guy, but if you start a conversation and get to know some girl at the party no one is going to accuse you of anything, if you go on actual tinder date then that is unlikely to happen (unless you really try to rape someone)
Dates: Need social skills ->social circle(in which has a single or any women in it of course)->Job-> Charisma-> time to know someone->date
And even then I don't think many do make it looking up the statistics, especially with zoomers
Tinder: good luck with that
I am not lying, for normies it's easier today that it was 10 years ago.
You kiss first and then you keep kissing, you start touching each others bodies, if a girl lets you do it it usually turns into sex after some foreplay
It looks like you are the summer fag.
Absolutely degenerate; a week starts on Mongay.
Dating who? Whores? Why would you be in a relationship with a woman who has enough self respect to fuck a dude who she met last week.
Are you dyslexic?
>dating = sex
Are you retarded?
>you normally fuck on second date
Bro. That shit is disgusting, you are american aren't you
>last week.
Hold my beer
I was about to ask if you were retarded, but then I remembered where I was
Yeah why would I want to date more then one person ever?
Thats what I did and am currently doing
You wait for the one you love or you're a disgusting trashpile whore of a human being, simple as.
Simple A-S my guy
This. I can usually tell when someone has had sex or watched porn before.
What the fuck kind of statement is this? "I can tell if someone has watched porn before" Yeah if they have two legs and live in a first world country. Christ, get off the computer and go to a bar.
Disgusting filth. Shut the FUCK up.
I bet you've never even kissed a girl; nothing I retaliate with can shame you more than you shame yourself. I bet you are so perfect and clean, so deserving of some magical virgin woman who wants to devote herself to you. Grow the hell up. People fuck like crazy; You are just upset you never made any effort for them to fuck you.
In ancient Rome if a woman had sex before marriage she was deemed worthless and unfit for marriage. She would be forced into prostitution because that was the only job available to her. This made the price of sex with prostitutes the equivalent of a price of a loaf of bread (there were a lot of whores)
That's what the modern day man's wife is worth in the eyes of Romans, a loaf of bread. lmao
The romans also thought that every person belonged to the oldest male in the family, so your dad could kill you whenever he wanted to consequence free unless you got him to free you, which led to a lot of young men that just became adults murdering their dads.
>She has to be a virgin, 18 years old, doesn't talk to other people, Have a BMI of 10, be a 8/10 or above constantly, and have a total dependency on me or I WALK.
Better start buying some nice shoes, anons.
To be fair, if men were willing to date non-virgins, then incels wouldn't even exist.
>just love a whore goy!
I feel the same
Whether the moid has had sexual intimacy or has watched porn before, both are absolutely horrid & I'd rather be alone than with a beast
What? What kind of a statement is that? Have you never had sex or something?
Even if you end up marrying a virgin she'll probably resent and cuck you because muh, "missed out on life".
That meme is a roastie cope. Stats show that does not happen and whores are more likely to cheat.
or having sex with someone you know they had sex with. like stacey slut who had sex wit everyone.
pic related is only a partner count of 10
there are girls who have partner counts of like 40, but dont count bj's, handjobs, and forgot half of them, and lie about it anyways
this is how KEKED the average married man is
>average man
from your example it's more 39 out of 40 men get cucked, that includes not just average men but many 8s and 9s
>I don't get why anyone does it
its that or loneliness. people would rather the former than the latter.
Because both boys and girls have sex. Casual sex is normal with normies and a lot of guys here would do the same but they don't get any girls
OP has too high standards for modern women
then again this is probably why anon is still a virgin and needs to get TOPPED immediately
OP might as well openly admit to removing himself from the dating pools
Well that's what he's seem to imply though. It simply doesn't make sense analytically speaking. If you want a one-night stand it would make, but putting a ring on her is a complete form of social anachronism.
I'd rather do that then date a non-virgin. What's with the simp brigading recently? Stop shooting estrogen into your veins maybe?
>I have testosterone
>thats why I fall for the oldest brainwashing in the book and guarantee that I have no kids or love life
She better be a perfect 10 or you need to give up.
She has to be a virgin, not fat or deformed and has to love me. That is what makes a perfect 10. What the fuck is the point in dating a whore? At that point you're literally better off swearing off dating completely.
Whatever you say, as long as you are childless, the entire point of the game has been achieved. You can even go on some moral relativistic scientific rant if you want. Dating is not for some people.
If I don't meet a virgin woman I'll donate sperm since I meet all the requirements to do it. Some megacuck will raise my kids for me.
I can already guess how many virgin women you meet on a normal Friday, cuck
0? Like that takes a genius to figure out. Most women are undateable.
>Can't understand basic grammar
I would defend you but you are a complete buffoon for thinking
has the same semantic meaning as
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>what he's seem to imply
>it would make
>lecturing others about their grammar
Ohhh mr fancy "I know a smart word for saying old fashioned" shut the fuck up retard.
why are you angry if you are the one who didn't understood anything? At least I can understand the context of written words. Oh, maybe I should write more basic words so that you can understand what I'm saying, right?
You said I seem to be implying that I'm taking myself off the dating market because virgins don't exist basically and that marrying is old fashioned. You did say it with broken grammar too.
These retards talking about the type of women they would date
I don't care man. I was born a risk factor for hiv without being black, just considered at risk throughout my school career CCR5-32. Had sex with nagger lovers with my 7" cock and downs brother and using sodas to fight fatigue thinking of sex all the time, I barely have small intestines any more. Blew that shit up with health drinks that aren't proven keto friendly. Now, a concept called system bias has entered politics, relaxing black crime on left-handed people. I've had to pimp out my girlfriends everytime because of system bias, they just start sputtering about how they don't want to leave me and next thing you know they're getting gangbanged by guides. 23andme reduced the spatial rationale of women by about 32%. Glad you naggers read LULZ from 6 years ago
Guidos* senmaluhtoyaneuluhu