I genuinely don't care if my data is harvested.

I genuinely don't care if my data is harvested. I really don't have anything to hide and it really doesn't really bother me. If the slippery slope gets really bad and every app is constantly watching you through a camera I'd probably stop using them. But as it is now, why should I care if google knows shit about me? I'm not really that interesting or do anything illegal I need to worry about. I'd rather them not spy on me but I'm willing to sacrifice that for a pleasant ux.

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yeah same breh

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Suppose something happens in the future and you end up being a person of interest.
    Would you still be comfortable with the fact all your info has been harvested over the years?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wouldn't say I'd feel comfortable. There's definitely searches and shit I've looked at that are probably buried in a data center somewhere, but the odds of that coming back to bite me are slim to none. I do have a few accounts on nsfw sites that I would probably delete if I became famous to not let people see my coomer power level. But I wouldn't really feel uncomfortable about it, it's like being worried about a man eating lion in africa. It could really fuck you up but the odds of it ever happening is realistically zero.

      Big Tech companies work with the intelligence agencies. Mass surveillance is dangerous do our republic because people behave differently when they know they are being watched. Mass surveillance threatens the work of whistleblowers, freethinkers and dissidents.

      Yeah I think it's fucked up and they should stop doing it. But the onus isn't on me to take proactive steps to make myself invisible. I have nothing to hide, if an fbi agent came to my house and asked to look through my phone (nicely) I'd probably let him. But I'm a pretty edge case. We should make this a big voter issue to stop the intelligence agencies from spying on us. Usually the people who actually care about not getting spyed on are also big anti establishment types sadly, so this shit will probably never get the massive attention it really needs.

      >I really don't have anything to hide
      tell me you lack creativity without telling me you lack creativity.

      What % of prosecutor stories you think are objective and not made up to fit the available facts and desired win rate.

      I doubt I'll ever be in a courtroom for shit I typed into google.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Good verbiage

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Thanks satan

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the odds of that coming back to bite me are slim to none
        This is not true. Servers get hacked all the time and there's legitimate value in selling the data.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just using this website makes you controversial in the eyes of many today.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >controversial in the eyes of many today.
          >controversial
          go kill yourself, meds can't save you at this point

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's kind of just a matter of principle like I guess profiting from selling data for ads or government pre-crime analysis or whatever seems unethical

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The government doing that is also unconstitutional via the 4th amendment. At least in the US. It practically prevents the people from questioning the government without he government knowing about it. It turns the US into a tyranny; where control is taken from the people and given without limits to the government. If the people remove their security and data-control to give it to the government or some corporation to manage, then the nation is no longer by the people for the people. It is now by the tyrants for the subjects. Like a 2nd class citizen deemed unfit to rule himself

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You do you, senpai. Privacy is about minimizing areas where data can be collected about you. If you don't care, then you shouldn't do shit.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Big Tech companies work with the intelligence agencies. Mass surveillance is dangerous do our republic because people behave differently when they know they are being watched. Mass surveillance threatens the work of whistleblowers, freethinkers and dissidents.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I really don't have anything to hide
    tell me you lack creativity without telling me you lack creativity.

    What % of prosecutor stories you think are objective and not made up to fit the available facts and desired win rate.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>I doubt I'll ever be in a courtroom for shit I typed into google.
      >he doesn't know how deep the rabbit hole goes

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Post your full name, phone number, and social media profile links
    You don't care about privacy and have nothing to hide, right?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fair point, but posting it on LULZ and it being stored in a server somewhere that nobody probably ever looks at are two completely different things.

      >the odds of that coming back to bite me are slim to none
      This is not true. Servers get hacked all the time and there's legitimate value in selling the data.

      As long as it isn't something like my banking information or my passwords I don't care.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Then your argument isn't that you don't care about privacy, it's that you trust the people violating your privacy will not let your data fall into wrong hands

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah sure. Ain't nobody really looking at the data, they just want to store it, right.

        I have nothing to say so i don't care freedom of speech.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        so you do care about privacy? funny how that works

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >gives out the passwords of life (data/experiences) to be manipulated and controlled
        >scared about the insured bankers' digital money
        Jesus Christ, WAKE UP.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I care, but I don't worry about it. There is absolutely nothing I can do to stop a hacker from getting user data out of a site I use, and selling it to 3rd parties.

    My dad has his debit card information stolen, and he never even used his card online a single time. But, some guy halfway across the country used it to buy israeliteelry and McDonald's.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why not strive to have a pleasant ux and not be spied on?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Who is spying on you?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >posting lies on the internet
        fine who care
        >paying someone to post lies on the internet
        capital punishment
        https://themarkup.org/privacy/2021/09/30/theres-a-multibillion-dollar-market-for-your-phones-location-data

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    strange you don’t care but they care a great deal about you not caring
    what if you were paid for your data? free money for using the internet what then? because they ARE paid for YOU using THEIR service

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Let's say you care. Then what? Fight forever? Internet was once a USA military government project, the so called ARPANET. Facebook was only for university students. Things change and so on the motives and who uses their services. Not saying it is not "le bad buh complacencyy" but what can you do? The internet, the web, and all the connected shit have deep architectural issues that isn't on our hands to decide, sadly. ISPs, governments, multimillionaire corporations. They all own a good chunk of hardware and dictate the rules. Change starts with you but needs to be concise, and it's not by changing software in already compromised hardware. It's a steep slow process of reconquering freedom, which is in the end just an illusion of the mind for ease of living. In the end, want privacy and anonymity? Stay off the lines.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        The main issue we have here is the compromised hardware. Before that shit came out, internet culture had developed encryption algorithms to make cracking data physically impossible due to government hardware limitations. They COULD intercept your data and crack the encryption, but only for a select few because of how long it takes to crack it. As it should be. We need to return to that internet, without the mandatory government surveillance everywhere. Cameras in personal devices and the security cameras in businesses should be in the control of the people using them; not some 3-letter agency many miles away.

        People will record crimes and report them. And they will also leak funny things that happen in bars. There will be lawsuits about it, but it wouldn't be anywhere near as bad as the dystopia we have today. I can safely get drunk and bitch about the president anywhere I feel like again.

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    i do care though
    my data is being bought and sold, which is not only a security risk to me and an inconvenience, it lets corporations fuck me over more than they already do
    it's also being sold to all the alphabet soup agencies i can think of and call me a schizo but i don't like that. i may not ever become an assasination target but i know that even fucking youtubers can get a knock on the door from the nsa for being heckin' unwholesome and anti-american. now to be fair, that happens mostly in the burger dystopia but it still scares me

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      That's totally fine, nobody said you shouldn't max out your privacy.

      I guess it's easier for you americafags since you have been brainwashed from day 0 to trust your government. But for me, it's just a foreign intelligence spying on me.

      Everyone I know extremely distrusts the government hahahahaha

      Saying you don't care about privacy because you have nothing to hide is like saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say.

      I personally don't really care about privacy. Personally being the key word. Im against it as a whole, but I don't care enough to mod my shit to extreme levels just to acheive maximum privacy. Plus you're totally free to disable all trackers and presence on the web. Nobody is forcing you to agree to tos or use their software.

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I guess it's easier for you americafags since you have been brainwashed from day 0 to trust your government. But for me, it's just a foreign intelligence spying on me.

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Saying you don't care about privacy because you have nothing to hide is like saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say.

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    What if you start supporting the president that doesnt get elected? Now that president has you on a shit list of non-supporters and you cant take it back.

    Aside from political stuff, foundationally, the monitoring is there to give you ads. Theyre using manipulation and other fuckeries to get you to buy shit, and for some reason, this is seen as an acceptable method.

    Also, you do not know where this shit is going to go. If you happen to have a night on the town or party with some friends somewhere, you need to stay conscious that your boss might see it, the police might see it, etc. The tech itself is very loosely cobbled together and is too easy to break into for anything on it to be considered secure. Oh yeah, and they want you to run your credit card through this mess just to buy something for muh safety

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >What if you start supporting the president that doesnt get elected? Now that president has you on a shit list of non-supporters and you cant take it back.
      They already have a shitlist and they don't need any special monitoring for it, it's called every registered member of the opposing party.
      >Aside from political stuff, foundationally, the monitoring is there to give you ads. Theyre using manipulation and other fuckeries to get you to buy shit, and for some reason, this is seen as an acceptable method.
      Ads have and will always be around, maybe not personalized ads but if anything that's better than random ads. Would you rather see ads for tampons or shit you'd actually potentially buy?
      >Also, you do not know where this shit is going to go. If you happen to have a night on the town or party with some friends somewhere, you need to stay conscious that your boss might see it, the police might see it, etc.
      I don't really understand your point here. Why would I need to hide that I had a night out from my boss or police? What kind of parties do you go to hahahahah
      >The tech itself is very loosely cobbled together and is too easy to break into for anything on it to be considered secure.
      Maybe if someone doesn't have good passwords and 2fa. I don't know what your threshold for "secure" is though.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Historically, there were many things that happened around this issue. The most famous were the iCloud leaks, where celebrity nudes were leaked by an Apple employee to the world. It didn't matter how locked down the transmission was, if you're sending it to someone, they have it. This is also true for credit card numbers, your ID, purchase history... Anything. The only solution is to NOT send anything to anyone unless absolutely necessary.

        The ads also destroy the market. It creates a pay-to-win anti-competitive practice where the most funded product will ALWAYS win. If they know the metrics you're looking at when you buy something, they can simply misrepresent their plastic nonsense to make it LOOK like it does what you want, and you'll never see any competitor. Product quality and reasonable pricing is just thrown out the window.

        >Threshold for secure
        These backdoors are open to anyone to use, so it doesn't matter if you have 2fa or a good password if the attacker can control your phone under your UI so you never see it. And really, there's just so much bloat in there that even if there wasn't a backdoor, there are many avenues for attack that is unreasonable for even an expert to mitigate against.

        >parties
        Also, there was a time companies were scanning facebook for accounts that have pictures of people holding a red solo cup, and actually denied people jobs over them looking like a drunkard. The same thing could happen today if a company scans profiles for images of a tractor and they're deemed a "right winger".

        At the end of the day, what needs to happen, is a simplicity of design small enough for someone to get a grip on it such that people can regain control over their own devices; as it was in the 90s and early 2000s. These devices with all their popups and book-long ToSs aren't even usable and are a mighty pain to use. It's just unacceptable by every metric to support baseless claims like muh safety.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          I also simply do not associate with being a registered member of a political party. That shit's cancer but another unrelated can of worms to dig in to

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