I fucked up? I was having sex with my gf of 1 year and, without thinking, grabbed my phone and recorded it, I was enjoying the moment (we hadn't had sex in a whole week) and wanted to enjoy it again later
3 seconds pass, gf asks 'are you filming', and turns around, her voice is really strange, I say 'yes' and stop recording, then delete the video in front of her she starts crying and runs into the bathroom, comes back out gets dressed and leaves. (leaving me to pay for £500 bills we'd agreed to share because we were on the last day of holiday) the next day she called me and angrily demanded that she goes through my phone so she can delete every photo we ever took together (including plenty of nudes)
I told her I have done so because I was really weirded out and confused, I haven't heard from her since
is there anything I can say or do? should I be looking out for the police? i'm heartbroken and my sense of thinking has gone to whack, and I can't ask any of my friends about this because it's intimate to her.
>I fucked up?
Yes. producing pornography without consent is a very big no-no.
>without thinking
you were thinking, it's not as simple and impulsive as like pulling a new sex move out of nowhere. You had think about recording it, reach for your phone, make sure she wasn't looking, grab your phone, unlock the home screen, find the camera app, select the video setting, and hit record.
If you love this chick you can only apologize and express how much you regret it.
yeah i already did that, she isnt responding, i love her, i wanted to marry her, these last few days have felt like a fever dream, i can't believe its over
>she isnt responding
Pshhh, call her ass and when she answers tell her to answer her fucking texts, then hang up and text her lol
ah dude, its over, its so clearly over
im just wondering about the police tbh, im a bit spooked
then text her that and move on.
say "hey I said sorry, but clearly you can't deal with this, or me like an adult so I'm breaking up with you."
make it final, move on, grieve if you need too, but ultimately this was on her.
>deal with this like an adult
>but ultimately this was on her.
real woman-hating incel hours
>demanding to see someone's phone when you're clearly done with the relationship in order to look through it.
yeah, nah.
she's fucking insane, her reaction to what happened isn't proportional in any fucking world.
The crying and running out, the sticking him with the bill, ghosting a relationship of 1 year, and demanding to see his phone.
all of it was insane, and I'm guessing this is fucking bait at this point because who acts like this? the mentally insane.
>omg insane bro it's so insane it's insane
it's illegal and immoral
it isn't really. he didn't hide the fact that he was recording.
Is that the hill you're going to die on here? not the fact that her reaction to it was insane, but the legality of something?
Should he have asked for affirmative consent before having sex as well?
lmao
He didn't hide it, but he should have never done that without asking. If someone recorded you fapping without asking beforehand you'd also feel violated.
>If someone recorded you fapping without asking beforehand you'd also feel violated.
if it was my girlfriend of 1 year who did that? nah, I wouldn't care.
I don't think any other guy who was with a girl that long would either...
Why do you presume to know what I'd feel like in a hypothetical situation?
hey cool now imagine if it wasn't you, it was someone else who's not open to the idea of surprise sex recordings, and values their privacy and intimacy
can you do that, put yourself in someone else's shoes? rhetorical question obviously you can't you're just gonna shitpost this thread into oblivion about how based you are with your hypothetical girlfriend
I wouldn't ever do that, and I'm not defending the OP who did.
I'm simply stating, factually, that it was completely her decision to end the relationship so poorly, and impulsively...
It was her choice, he messed up, she chose to blow everything up irrecoverably because of it.
Why is this so hard for you to understand?
You think people want to ever interact with infantile women who just up and walk out of your life at the first little conflict?
>"you have to show me your phone so you can't even have memories left!!!!"
the mark of a sane person... clearly...
And for the record, you're the fucking retard bringing up hypothetical situations and getting mad about them, not me.
here's your final (You)s edgy retard, keep on madposting about how it's cringe how women don't like to be filmed during sex without their knowledge or consent
OP, this is definitely who you want relationship advice from, yeah? "omg homosexuals get triggered when i take precious innocent memories lmao how is privacy even real lmao kek based"
>
Is it? Are you sure? I don't think so in most places, maybe some real faggy states like California but I'm not 100% sure since shit's been changing a lot. Revenge porn is a thing now? Who fucking decided that should be illegal? God damn fags..
>immoral
Oh whatever, how?
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>If someone recorded you fapping without asking beforehand you'd also feel violated.
Violated? Really? The language people use nowadays is so fucking gay
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>hey cool now imagine if it wasn't you, it was someone else who's not open to the idea of surprise sex recordings
Okay, couldn't she have just said "hey you asshole, are you recording this?! You know I don't like when you do that without telling me first! Let me see, does my hair look bad in the video? Let me go fix my hair first!" or some shit like that?
>and values their privacy and intimacy
Privacy and intimacy? The fuck does that have to do with anything? You realize he can see the same thing with his fucking eyeballs that he is recording with his phone, right? So what's the privacy issue?
I don't even know what intimacy is so yeah, sounds gay, feel free to explain though (You)
This is me, the other post is a different guy. I don't think either one of us is mad though?
>lmao how is privacy even real lmao kek based"
I think if your cock is literally inside of her, that whole privacy thing is pretty much gone, isn't it?
>without knowledge
In full view is with her knowledge.
>or consent
She, in a very dramatic way, said no, OP deleted videos.
The issue is her managing of the situation. This thread would be very different if she stopped and just said "I dont like that, please dont"
>here's your final (You)s edgy retard, keep on madposting about how it's cringe how women don't like to be filmed during sex without their knowledge or consent
I didn't say that, I agreed with her not consenting.
I just said her reaction was insane, and childish.
Which it is.
Privacy is real, but when I'm inside her already.... like really? I can record myself having sex with someone. that's not illegal.
She had full knowledge of what was happening.
grow up.
>Privacy is real, but when I'm inside her already.... like really? I can record myself having sex with someone. that's not illegal.
where do you live
The issue is the fact that she knew it was happening, and therefore could either consent or not consent.
if she didn't know then yes, illegal.
However she knew full well what was happening, and the OP stopped and deleted it when she didn't like it.
This is like those cases where the girl says "stop fucking or it's rape!" when you're already in her... nobody sane does that kind of shit.
And you're arguing in complete bad-faith to suggest otherwise.
Same with "affirmative consent" bullshit, nobody does that. And I won't take you seriously if you're going to act like OP should have done that.
>The issue is the fact that she knew it was happening
No.
>gf asks 'are you filming', and turns around, her voice is really strange
why would she ask about something if she knew what was happening
he didn't ask, disability-kun.
>it's illegal
Is it? Are you sure? I don't think so in most places, maybe some real faggy states like California but I'm not 100% sure since shit's been changing a lot. Revenge porn is a thing now? Who fucking decided that should be illegal? God damn fags..
>immoral
Oh whatever, how?
>If someone recorded you fapping without asking beforehand you'd also feel violated.
Violated? Really? The language people use nowadays is so fucking gay
>hey cool now imagine if it wasn't you, it was someone else who's not open to the idea of surprise sex recordings
Okay, couldn't she have just said "hey you asshole, are you recording this?! You know I don't like when you do that without telling me first! Let me see, does my hair look bad in the video? Let me go fix my hair first!" or some shit like that?
>and values their privacy and intimacy
Privacy and intimacy? The fuck does that have to do with anything? You realize he can see the same thing with his fucking eyeballs that he is recording with his phone, right? So what's the privacy issue?
I don't even know what intimacy is so yeah, sounds gay, feel free to explain though
Its absolutely illegal to share, and its legal to make possess photos that both are aware of. (Like you cant take sleeping nudes or spy cams or creep shots), and Im fairly certain after the fact if their deletion is requested, you must comply.
Good fucking luck with the burden of proof if you wanted to do something about that though.
But running off crying in the hear of the momemt because a camera started and running home and breaking up with someone? Thats outrageous. No. If OP kept it wed be having a different conversation. Not the case.
She coild have said "I dont like that". That would have been just fine.
>She coild have said "I dont like that"
yeah sure respond with the same urgency and tone that you would when trying out a different brand of ketchup, that's normal. Being recorded during sex against your will is just like when you hear a annoying song on the radio. "I don't like that"
Youre now making OP out to be an impossinle disney villain. If youre having sex with someone you trust, yes, "i dont like that" will work.
I reiterare yet a third time, have you never in your entire life had sex? Hugged someone even?
I have had plenty of sex, never once felt the urge to pull out my phone like an ADHD zoomer and start doing tik toks.
Now youre adding shit. No one said anything about tik tok, and Im a millenial, weve been recording sex since fucking nokias. When you have to add shit to your argument to be more right, it means youre wrong, and very, very stupid.
if you want to further split hairs and argue over nothing, recording on a phone 20 years ago would've been different when there was no social media or live streaming certainly not from your phone and it would just be a bunch low res pixels anyways.
If a girl started pulling her phone out and recording me during sex my first question wouldn't be "haha are you filming me heehee" it would be "BITCH ARE YOU LIVE STREAMING THIS"
give her some time - try to be understanding of how humiliating and scary realizing you're being recorded during such an intimate moment must feel. Let her calm down so you can talk like grown people. Best of luck, anon, I hope you get to fix your mistake.
Have you never had sex in your entire life?
It is not wholly unreasonable in the heat of the moment to start filming. As much so as your gf/bf then saying "dont do that", then you stop. Then after one can have a conversation going "hey I filmed that is that ok?" At which point you can say "yes/no".
But you have got to be the worlds biggest weiner to act like in the act its a sin against god and country, my lord.
>Have you never had sex in your entire life?
>It is not wholly unreasonable in the heat of the moment to start filming.
well I guess I'm that much of an epic zoomer that I keep my phone up my ass during sex so that I can just sneakily pull it out
Most people value tehir privacy, simple as. Plus it may not even be a simple recording it may be a live broadcast.
Put your fuckin phone away zoomer, live in the moment.
Ok, but, a reasonable reaction on her part is to say "i dont like that" and a reasonale response for OP, is delete rhe picture/video.
But the reason Im saying "have you never had sex in your entire life" is bevause you do not seem to have any familiarity with the fact, during sex, no ones really thinking. Its a very unbridled act. Things happen. People must speak up (without having a meltdown) if they dont like something, and respect is paramount. Youre making this out lije OP kept the photos or videos, which, yes would be very very wrong. He did not. Ergo, she way overreacted.
>respect is paramount
respecting my girlfriend by recording her without her consent 🙂
If OP stopped and deleted it, as he did, her consent was well respected.
The backflips youre doing to appear morally superuor here and all you look like is a chump.
her consent was violated when he pulled the phone out and recorded without telling her.
did you just come here to get mad at hypothetical women and like woke memes or something
>her consent was violated when he pulled the phone out and recorded without telling her.
Apparently it's the end of the world for OP to do this shit, but like.. my ex-gf would take pictures of me all the damn time, particularly when I was doing some bullshit for her like crawling under the house to fix her damn bathtub drain or whatever it is that day.. and I wouldn't find out about these pictures until later on when I see a Facebook notification saying "goofy bitch has tagged you in 3 photos!" Why is that shit okay? Note she didn't just fucking take the pictures/videos, she POSTED them too! Is that not a violation of my privacy?
> Why is that shit okay?
because you don't have your dick and balls hanging out, presumably. Glad I could help you differentiate those circumstance.
and for the other shitposter who's still not getting any (You)s
>what consent was violated
the consent of her not wanting to be recorded during sex.
Her consent wasn't violated muppet, she heard him doing it, asked him, he said yes, and deleted it when she freaked out.
He assumed she was going to be okay with it from all I can tell, and you can't claim otherwise because OP didn't say if they talked about that shit prior.
I'm done here.
stupid thread missing necessary info.
For the record, since I live in a real country, so we're innocent until proven guilty.
consent is asking first, not after the fact.
Normal people in relationships don't ask for affirmative consent before fucking, more so when they've been in a relationship for a whole ass year.
I'm literally not going to argue with you in bad faith on this issue with you.
You're living in feminist fantasy land where that kind of shit is normal, and doesn't kill the mood.
No? he didn't assume and did it anyways? because you can read his mind? stop wasting my time.
Nobody asks in this situation, had she stuck around to talk about it, maybe they could have reached this conclusion, and she could have got over herself. But she didn't.
>normal people don't ask or say anything before secretly recording sex
they do, actually.
don't put words in my mouth, rat.
Relevance?
don't pretend to be normal
I am fucking normal you incel.
Or are you going to pretend that you say "Hey, just checking before I stick my penis inside, you want to have sex with me, and are consenting right?" every time before having sex?
Because that's really normal, and you aren't a complete retard for insisting that that's something that other normal people just like you do...
homosexual.
>Or are you going to pretend that you say "Hey, just checking before I stick my penis inside, you want to have sex with me, and are consenting right?" every time before having sex?
No because that's not what the thread is about. It's about -recording someone- during sex without their knowledge or consent.
try to rub two brain cells together now
they did have knowledge, and their non-consent in the matter was respected, after it was voiced... moron.
read the OP.
>they did have knowledge
well no, cause she had to ask what even was going on, she did not know about it, she did not provide consent.
look, in the adult world, you're going to have to trust a person to make decisions for you regarding consent in a trust based relationship.
Yeah, a guy could just overpower you and have sex with you. Or just flip out a phone and record you taking dick.
She trusted him not to do something, but that didn't mean he didn't think he was right in doing so...
Obviously he didn't think she'd react in that way, why would he do that if he thought this was the case?
Consent doesn't need to be always given for people to act, that's just life, and you're going to have to deal with it.
If you've known someone for 1 year, you should have known not to record them if they reacted like that. But in OPs case it seems like she's genuinely unhinged. and I'm not even talking about him recording her... Because let's be real here, he didn't ask her if he wanted to have sex with him, why would he ask if he could record it.
What is different about that? does he also need to ask to sleep in her bed?
>e didn't ask her if he wanted to have sex with him, why would he ask if he could record it.
>What is different about that?
are you actually autistic
sex is a normal thing that normal people do normally when they're in a relationship, it starts with just kissing or cuddling and you know how the dance goes after you've had sex with someone more than once.
recording sex is not something that's done without saying on a regular basis in any normal adult relationship. It is 1000000% something that you ask ahead of time given how risky and unusual it is.
you are absolutely a brain dead virgin coomer
>recording is totally different! OMG!
nah, not really, and it's not comparable.
so there's not much point in getting mad over it.
You sound insane, she wasn't in private, she had zero expectation of privacy.
Recording her like that wasn't any more illegal, or immoral than going in for a kiss unannounced.
There's zero risk involved, physically or mental.. And it was with someone she's been trusting her body with for over a year.
Come back to reality little buddy!
>nah, not really, and it's not comparable.
hey so you know how in some funny countries the age of consent is often 16 and lower, you can have sex with 16- year olds no problem
recording them during the act is very much different. very much illegal as well. So no, it is different.
sorry about your brain damage that prevents you from differentiating thing.
my god, why are you bringing up random fucking shit as if this whole thread I was talking about it...
who gives a fuck about age of consent????
what drugs are you on??? give me some???
do you now understand what the difference is between recording someone during sex, and not recording someone during sex?
do you understand the concept of implied consent? I just don't really get how you have a functional sex life if this is how you're claiming to live.
I assume you're a girl.
That's the only way people would put up with your horseshit, and I assure you it's just lip service.
>do you understand the concept of implied consent?
that doesn't include recordings.
if an old friend of your walked up behind you and kicked you right in the balls as hard as he could, as a joke, you'd be cool with that right
Also
>He assumed she was going to be okay with it from all I can tell
No.
cause he sneaked the phone behind her back (literally?) and got caught. Otherwise he would've been open about it and been like "babe this is so hot I'm gonna film us real quick"
You're like three levels of assumption deep there. You're assuming that he's assuming that she was going to be okay with it. gold star in mental gymnastics.
pretty sure the only one who didn't respect their partner in OP's post was the girl who ended up running out on a 1 year relationship, footing him with a bill for a vacation they both agreed to split.
If anything, OP should take her to court for that if she threatens anything, as that's actually stealing.
There was a verbal contract, she violated it.
no it wasn't? what consent was violated?
Who the fuck says you need to ask for something like that in the first place, you think that law has ever fucking stopped anyone from doing that without consent?
This is like those shitty gun laws where only decent people like OP get fucked over for it.. kek
He respected her, she couldn't cope with that perceived breach of trust.
He literally fucking told her right when she asked.
go away.
No (You)s for you, schizo. Go be mad at gun laws in another thread holy shit.
ahahahah mad cause you have zero response! no arguments anymore, just ad-hom.
back to r*ddit with you vermin!
>Have you never had sex in your entire life?
>It is not wholly unreasonable in the heat of the moment to start filming.
Holy fucking shit, this is insanity
>I fucked up? I was having sex with my gf of 1 year and, without thinking, grabbed my phone and recorded it
>without thinking
Alright hold on before we go any further. Don't do this shit anymore nigga, just don't. You were thinking when you did it. Don't say you weren't thinking, it's irritating, and it's a lie. You don't need to lie
>I say 'yes' and stop recording, then delete the video in front of her she starts crying and runs into the bathroom, comes back out gets dressed and leaves
Hmm, did she tell you to delete the video or did you just do that shit on your own?
>(leaving me to pay for £500 bills we'd agreed to share because we were on the last day of holiday)
Haha, no wonder she was pretending to be so upset. Tricky tricky little thing
>the next day she called me and angrily demanded that she goes through my phone so she can delete every photo we ever took together (including plenty of nudes)
Yeah just back them up and then let her do it. But demand that $250 from her ass too. Fair is fair
>I told her I have done so because I was really weirded out and confused, I haven't heard from her since
Fuck that shit, fuck that bitch. Only question I have is did she demand you delete the video after you said yes you were recording? Or did you just immediately assume that's what you should do, so you deleted it in front of her without her saying anything? Cause you shoulda just said "yes I'm recording" and then just keep fucking her and recording..
>is there anything I can say or do? should I be looking out for the police? i'm heartbroken and my sense of thinking has gone to whack, and I can't ask any of my friends about this because it's intimate to her.
Nah nah nah hold on, stop. How old are you again? It's not that it really matters, I'm just curious, I can be your crazy perverted uncle either way..
Stop caring about that shit dude, she's fucking with your head on purpose. Because she's a fucking BITCH, by the way
>Stop caring about that shit dude, she's fucking with your head on purpose. Because she's a fucking BITCH, by the way
(Continuing)
This shit so infuriating. You CAN ask your friends about it, why do you think you can't? Did she teach you that shit? Did she tell you not to talk about y'all's "intimate" shit to your friends? I swear to god if she did.. god damn I hate these kind of people
What else has this creature taught you?
>If you love this chick you can only apologize and express how much you regret it.
Pft, why would he regret it? What's wrong with him filming himself fuckin his bitch? Sure, I guess he should have asked her first, but I bet I can guess why he didn't do that.. SHE WOULD HAVE SAID NO! So fuckin just grab the phone and do it, fuck it, what's the god damn harm in that?
Flip the genders in this story and how would things go?
>So fuckin just grab the phone and do it, fuck it, what's the god damn harm in that?
I think OP explicitly stated the harm that was done, try to pay attention.
>I think OP explicitly stated the harm that was done, try to pay attention.
I guess I missed it. What was the harm done?
the part where she ran out the door crying, left him to pay for the vacation they were on, and now she's not returning his calls, OP is worried about the police showing up, etc
you need some ADD meds bro
>the part where she ran out the door crying, left him to pay for the vacation they were on, and now she's not returning his calls, OP is worried about the police showing up, etc
Oh yeah but that was HER doing that, he didn't do any harm by filming them having sex
that was the reaction to him doing that
you re such a colossal shitposter my guy, like duuuuuur he didn't do any physical while secretly filming themselves having sex he didn't set the room on fire he only ruined his relationship forever herp de derp
>that was the reaction to him doing that
Okay, so she reacted like a dumb bitch and somehow that's HIS fault?
>you re such a colossal shitposter my guy, like duuuuuur he didn't do any physical while secretly filming themselves having sex he didn't set the room on fire he only ruined his relationship forever herp de derp
Secretly filming? HE HAD HIS PHONE IN HIS FUCKING HAND FILMING, that's hardly a god damn secret
And even if it was a secret, who the fuck cares? Who cares about this shit? It's harmless, and it's retarded for her to be throwing such a fit, and it's retarded that people just accept that this is some sort of atrocity that OP committed when it's NOTHING. Who the fuck cares? He's fucking her, why not film the shit? Can you tell me what harm filming it does?
AND, like I said earlier..
>Flip the genders in this story and how would things go?
why are you personally mad at this lol trying to play the "who cares" angle while posting in all caps
>omg what if the genders were swapped
then there would be 100 incels in here talking about how women are evil and she's going to use it for blackmail and etc
>why are you personally mad at this lol trying to play the "who cares" angle while posting in all caps
Shut up homosexual, I'm not playing an angle and I'm not mad. It helps make a point, doesn't it? Maybe adds a little life to these words on the screen? I dunno, whatever
>then there would be 100 incels in here talking about how women are evil and she's going to use it for blackmail and etc
Great, but leave out the incels and the muslims and go with the average fucking guy
Actually, most the fucking incels would do anything for some pussy, they wouldn't care either
>Shut up homosexual I'm not mad
madder words have never been spoken
>madder words have never been spoken
Trying to play the "why you mad though?" angle? lol
can you both stop arguing please, really not why I created this thread, thanks
>Fuck that shit, fuck that bitch. Only question I have is did she demand you delete the video after you said yes you were recording? Or did you just immediately assume that's what you should do, so you deleted it in front of her without her saying anything? Cause you shoulda just said "yes I'm recording" and then just keep fucking her and recording..
I just read from the tone of her voice when she said 'are you recording' and at the same time she stops moving back on me (doggy) that she was upset, so I deleted it in front of her, she said nothing and just left to the bathroom, then left the hotel
im like 28 in a week, shes slightly older, i've never experienced anything like this in any of my past relationships
>I just read from the tone of her voice when she said 'are you recording' and at the same time she stops moving back on me (doggy) that she was upset, so I deleted it in front of her, she said nothing and just left to the bathroom, then left the hotel
Damn it, I knew it. Damn it damn it damn it. We need a time machine, nephew..
See now I can't lay 100% of the blame on her, cause you fucked that part up lol. I see what you mean by you "didn't think about it" though. You fucking didn't think about what to do once the bitch noticed you were filming! Gahhh, we need that time machine
>im like 28 in a week, ,
You're older than dirt, but I'll be 30 in 2 weeks so I guess that works out
>shes slightly older i've never experienced anything like this in any of my past relationships
Oh alright, yeah, she's fucked in the head then right? Tell me more of what you're talking about? Like, the shit you never experienced in your past relationships? She pulls shit like this often? She get mad at you often? Arguments usually end with her walking out and not talking to you for a while?
you talk like a russian schizo
>you talk like a russian schizo
I think it's some mixture of white trash, redneck, wigger, nerd and prolly a few others. The wiggerness came from back in '99-2002 when Chronic 2001 and Eminem's cds came out. 95 plus 4 pennies, add that shit up
Chocolate starfish and the hotdog flavored wata?
Anyway, you're not the first one to comment on the way I type. I wanna talk to y'all fuckers IRL and see how you talk then. I try to type the way I would talk to you in person, I'm not trying to pass a fucking English class or something, I'm just talking
>I'm not trying to pass a fucking English class or something, I'm just talking
yes, same as me and you still talk weird. Nothing wrong about it
This is an 18+ website.
Honestly, this sounds like a terrible misunderstanding/mistake and I'm sorry it happened. Yes, it was really bad to do that without asking, but it's also pretty clear that you didn't know that or intend to do something wrong. I feel really bad for both of you in this situation. The best I can say is lesson learned, don't do that again. Consent to have sex is not consent to film sex.
thanks for the illumination
I would break up with any guy who did this. Your girlfriend is not a porn star. Why are you trying to make her into one? It’s presumptuous and insulting.
no bro she's uh crazy and irrational for having her privacy violated and reacting like that lmao my future girlfriend would love it if I started broadcasting her asshole on twitter out of nowhere
I think you fucked up OP, women are in the #metoo era so they're paranoid about vids and shit, you should of either A. not been so sneaky (could of told her you were about to), or B. Asked her prior. I know a few exes who got a bit uppity with me because I took pics of their ass and pussy while they slept or while we were having sex, I didnt hide it but they were on the whole "why did you take a pic of my ass?" shit.
the moids here are being purposely obtuse as a fetish right?
if my future boyfriend recorded me without asking during sex i would be disgusted and feel violated, i would feel like he was making our personal private moment into pornography without even caring enough about my feelings to ask me. this is why i dont even care about dating moids anymore, they cant be trusted.
>without thinking
sure you did, you disingenuous sack of shit
She sounds paranoid as hell. Screw her and move on.
Just backup the photos and encrypt it.
Next time just make sure she doesn't find out.
Dump her.
You were on vacation and didn't have sex that whole week? Sounds like your relationship was already falling apart and she just used this breach of trust as a convenient source of a dramatic breakup.
Wtf is with this new trend of guys recording without asking? I have had multiple hook ups whip out their phones and try to record me blowing them or whatever else without asking. And they're not even zoomers. 10 years ago this was NOT a thing.
What the heck changed to make guys think this behavior is acceptable?
10 years ago you were attracting gentlemen due to your youth, now you are hooking up with ran through trash like yourself.
Nah I'm definitely attracting the same kind of person. You can't be a gentleman and fuck a girl the first time you meet her. This is about hookup behavior.
>You can't be a gentleman and fuck a girl the first time you meet her
Uhh, of course you can. What makes you say that? Are you seriously fucking the assholes and douchebags because that's the only ones you think will hook up on day 1? That is.. such a woman thing to do..
Lmao. Opinion disregarded.
>10 years ago when you asked your gf if you could film y'all fucking or her sucking your dick, she would be down for it.
Key word being "asked"
>Nowadays seems like girls aren't quite as willing but I don't know that for sure
I think we've learned that it's a bad idea. Revenge porn is illegal but that won't stop people from seeing it. It's a trust issue.
And if some guy I don't know well just randomly starts recording who fucking knows what he's planning on doing with that? It's super weird to me that they see no problem whatsoever with it. Maybe I should try taking my own video next time this happens and see what he does.
>Lmao. Opinion disregarded.
It's really not an opinion lol. Alright though, discard the truth if that's what you wanna do
>Key word being "asked"
Right, back then if you asked they'd say yes, and today they'll say no, therefore just do it without asking, it's better to ask forgiveness than permission, etc..
>I think we've learned that it's a bad idea.
Why's it a bad idea? I never had any problems with it
>Revenge porn is illegal but that won't stop people from seeing it
Wasn't even illegal back in the day
>It's a trust issue.
Dude, really it's a shame/insecurity issue. Who the fuck cares if people see it? They prolly won't but who cares if they do? I mean, his friends will for sure, but that's all
>It's super weird to me that they see no problem whatsoever with it.
Hello? You admit that you only fuck assholes..
>Maybe I should try taking my own video next time this happens and see what he does.
He would probably ask you to send him the video afterwards, and he'll send you the one he took. That's what I'd do at least
>it's better to ask forgiveness than permission, etc..
So in other words they're cowards and they think women won't call them out on it.
>Wasn't even illegal back in the day
Should have been
>Who the fuck cares if people see it?
It's the principle of the damn thing. It's presumptuous as hell to just assume you can make amateur porn starring me without asking. And obviously I don't want my family to see me naked/in a sexual situation because that's gross and uncomfortable.
>Hello? You admit that you only fuck assholes
You assumed that. I think you have a really weird idea of what a gentleman is if you think the only other option is "asshole"
>So in other words they're cowards and they think women won't call them out on it.
What? How in the fuck did you get to that conclusion? No, it's better to ask forgiveness, meaning they EXPECT women to call them out on it
You could say they're cowards for not asking permission, but if it's already established that they'll never get permission, then it's pointless to ask anyway. Therefore, it's better to just do it and ask for forgiveness than it is to try and ask for permission
>Should have been
It shouldn't have been illegal then and it shouldn't be illegal today. It's a fucking joke that they actually made that shit illegal, a joke
>It's presumptuous as hell to just assume you can make amateur porn starring me without asking
You're right there, retard. It's not like he hid the fucking camera or something, it's in his hand. Stand up and tell him to put it away or you're leaving?
Or, preferably, stop being a boring uptight cunt and punt on a god damn show, the camera is rolling lol
>And obviously I don't want my family to see me naked/in a sexual situation because that's gross and uncomfortable.
Yeah because shame and insecurity, I know, I think I went over that already. Let it go. Your fucking family isn't going to watch your porn. In fact, no one is going to watch your porn, no one cares. It'll be the dude who filmed it and 5 of his friends, tops. Who cares? Oh yeah, I also show my dad any pics/vids I get from a girl
>You assumed that. I think you have a really weird idea of what a gentleman is if you think the only other option is "asshole"
Uhh.. okay what are the other options? I really thought that's what you were implying. In fact, I'm 99% sure that's what you were implying, but go on, what did you actually mean? Wouldn't be the first time I was wrong
>It shouldn't have been illegal then and it shouldn't be illegal today. It's a fucking joke that they actually made that shit illegal, a joke
I'm going to disregard your entire opinion based on this. You're trash.
>What the heck changed to make guys think this behavior is acceptable?
Better to ask for forgiveness than permission? I dunno, 10 years ago when you asked your gf if you could film y'all fucking or her sucking your dick, she would be down for it. Nowadays seems like girls aren't quite as willing but I don't know that for sure
I have a former friend who did this to flex on our friend group. Pretty much any time he lost an argument or someone disagreed with him he'd post a video like that in out group chat and say something like "ok but i get more pussy than you"
Basically to answer your question- I assume this is why guys do it nowadays, it's easy to spread around and men are more sexless than ever so getting laid is now a bigger flex than it ever was.
Social norms keep breaking down, simple.
Filming dumb cum rags like you was always socially acceptable. Filming your long time partner out of the blue without her knowledge isn't.
tl;dr stay out of this one, you expired slut
>I was really weirded out and confused
Your right anon. She's the weird one. Go get yourself a 10/10 that wants to be a pornstar. You didn't fuck up at all.
>leaving me to pay for £500 bills
oh ur british. if u were a real human being id probably feel some sympathy
Whole thread is trash.
From what I can tell, it seems she has either some trauma or is paranoid about it, which genuinely is a good thing.
Girls nowadays rightfully need to be careful if they're getting filmed, literally every girl I've talked to has a friend whose nudes got leaked.
You simply fucked up m8 and lost her trust, plain and simple. The best you can take from this situation is realize that and be better.
It's amazing how there's 105 posts in this thread, OP left a long time ago, and 300 of those posts all belong to the same unhinged poster who's mad at women and doesn't understand that recording someone against their will isn't a normal sex act.
I'm still here lol, there is a little advice coming through besides that one angry anon