I finally understand why some MtFs don't like FtMs transitioning.

I finally understand why some MtFs don't like FtMs transitioning. Seeing your beautiful male bodies getting destroyed and transformed by Estrogen makes me incredibly sad as well, fuck..

  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >implying estrogen works

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I sure hope it doesn't

  2. 4 months ago
    FunnyDog

    Yes anon it does, but it’s best to keep those thoughts to yourself cause you know they’ll be happier on estrogen

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      True

      I don't feel that way, I'm glad they are happier and cuter. I never really feel disappointed in MtFs, no matter how they look pre-transition

      What? I've never experienced this. Idk how other people have dysphoria projected onto others instead of solely themselves. Seeing trans woken transition makes me feel happy for them.

      This was the first time I experienced this, I usually don't project my dysphoria either. It was more of a 'God I wish that was me' moment followed by the realization that this will never be me and that this person doesn't even want to be them

      Introducing a lot of unnecessary dangerous powerful chemicals into your body is an absurd risk. If there's people that care about them that you can coordinate with and you can keep presenting the facts that's about the best that you can do. If I told you I didn't like my hand or my feet and I wanted to cut them off for something else or for nothing at all wouldn't you think I was a little unhinged?

      Self-mutilation and HRT aren't comparable, a lighter form of self-harm and running away from oneself would have worked better

  3. 4 months ago
    Green

    I don't feel that way, I'm glad they are happier and cuter. I never really feel disappointed in MtFs, no matter how they look pre-transition

  4. 4 months ago
    ArabMan

    What? I've never experienced this. Idk how other people have dysphoria projected onto others instead of solely themselves. Seeing trans woken transition makes me feel happy for them.

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Introducing a lot of unnecessary dangerous powerful chemicals into your body is an absurd risk. If there's people that care about them that you can coordinate with and you can keep presenting the facts that's about the best that you can do. If I told you I didn't like my hand or my feet and I wanted to cut them off for something else or for nothing at all wouldn't you think I was a little unhinged?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      go leave

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      No because literally just sex hormones are “powerful chemicals”, like what do you think floats around in most humans bodies? It’s basic biology.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can't really compare putting a chemical in your body that's in over half the world's population's bodies to cutting off your limbs. Are men self-mutilating by not cutting their balls off and women self-mutilating by not getting their ovaries pulled out because they're being filled with "dangerous chemicals" by them? No. Taking hormones also doesn't cause any kind of disability like dismemberment would, you can still function as a full human being.

      I project my dysphoria when I see FTMs, and it's basically exactly like what you said but the opposite. They're throwing away such a nice female body and ruining it with testosterone, getting permanent facial hair, having horrible acne, etc. Why would you do that to yourself ;_;

      Yeah, it's crazy because like I'd never do that, but they probably think the same thing about us. I get it.

      If I see incel with dead repper eyes who became tranny, I'd be happy for them.
      But If I see masculine chad who trooned out and became regular foid or even worse - a hon, I'd be sad.

      And same with ftms. If ftm becomes cute yaoi boi or chad, or basically, attractive man, I'd be happy for them. But I will laugh from narrow shouldered pooners

      Yeah, it sucks when people don't get good results. I feel bad for them, because, like, they have dysphoria too. Hopefully when I inevitably break I'll have some good results. Not an incel but I definitely have repper eyes and I'm fucked in the head from dealing with it constantly and I think my attractiveness is way more twink style than Chad style.

      It's sad when a man becomes a tranny. I don't care what women do to themselves.

      Wish I wasn't afflicted with tranny brain but, sorry, because of that you'll probably lose another cute boy and have a hopefully not deformed and hideous tranny instead.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Hopefully when I inevitably break I'll have some good results.
        Best way to improve your chances is to not wait, every day you get further masculinization. Like even if you are an adult, if you start balding your results are gonna suck

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, I know, I just keep being indecisive and anxious and second guessing myself even though it's something I've wanted since I was a kid and I've considered rope over being male. I dunno, I'm jacked up in the head. Maybe it will happen eventually.

          Well ok why the fuck do workers keep crying then when they could just live without the system? Why do women also keep coming at men if they're so strong and independant?

          Why do men keep coming after women if they're so strong and independent?

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I project my dysphoria when I see FTMs, and it's basically exactly like what you said but the opposite. They're throwing away such a nice female body and ruining it with testosterone, getting permanent facial hair, having horrible acne, etc. Why would you do that to yourself ;_;

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >permanent facial hair, having horrible acne
      actually that wears off after not taking it and taking estrogen again.
      its just your voice is permanently changed and your organs will probably suffer failure in the near future.
      TLDR HRT doesn't actually replace your natural hormones, just stalls them.

      • 4 months ago
        Green

        Facial hair doesn't wear off
        Acne does, although I didn't have any more (facial) acne on T.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        you have no idea what you are saying
        facial hair are permanent, once androgens stimulate facial hair follicles to form large beard hairs, it's over
        hrt does replace your natural hormones. when you take exogenous hormones in sufficient quantities, it signals to stop gonadal hormone production. that has consequences for gymcels taking exogenous testosterone also.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I read that T will make facial hair follicles and once the follicles are there they don't go away and always produce hair. So you will forever get facial hair.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        if your a ftm and stop taking testostyrone do your hair follicles close up and snip your beard off

  7. 4 months ago
    Sock

    It doesn’t bother me. Sure, we both have the common experience of wishing more than anything to have what each other hated. That’s just the cruel joke that is being trans. I wish everyone could have the bodies that they wanted, but unfortunately right now all we can do is make the most of what we’ve got. In that way, I feel camaraderie with FtMs more than anything.

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    LOL.

    LMAO

    as if there was any coming back from androgenization

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    If I see incel with dead repper eyes who became tranny, I'd be happy for them.
    But If I see masculine chad who trooned out and became regular foid or even worse - a hon, I'd be sad.

    And same with ftms. If ftm becomes cute yaoi boi or chad, or basically, attractive man, I'd be happy for them. But I will laugh from narrow shouldered pooners

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >If I see incel with dead repper eyes who became tranny, I'd be happy for them.
      right...just what we need. more sexist, misogynistic, racist, antisocial internet gamers who think they are women

      >But If I see masculine chad who trooned out and became regular foid
      based

      >If ftm becomes chad, or basically, attractive man, I'd be happy for them
      based

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        > right...just what we need. more sexist, misogynistic, racist, antisocial internet gamers who think they are women
        At leasy they wont stay coomers and incels. And in best case scenario, they could even become attractive. I am just saying that there is nothing to loose from their transition. They were ugly and failed as males and now they cured their dysphoria and have little chance to not being so ugly as females.

        We need more attractive males, I am happy when someone becomes attractive male and sad when someone who was atrractive male decides to troon out. But I dont give a shit about ugly people and their decisions.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >We need more attractive males, I am happy when someone becomes attractive male and sad when someone who was atrractive male decides to troon out. But I dont give a shit about ugly people and their decisions.
          Based

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >attractive people good, ugly people bad
      Extremely based

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    U know
    Your kind used to just marry each other and live vicariously, granting a superhuman sense of empathy from daily existence that would propel u to 4th dimensional conscious but u decided to start cutting off body parts instead. SAD!

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes and you're next

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >MTFs who hate FTMs: talk about how men are violent, emotionally stunted, smelly, disposable, etc. just generally listing off objective flaws about being male
    >FTMs who hate MTFs: b-but men r sexy~~~
    Idk, one side consistently seems to have more of a point

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      t. lesbian

    • 4 months ago
      Wolfgang

      but men are objectively superior to women in all categories

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        men are objectively disposable dildos and ATMs

        • 4 months ago
          Wolfgang

          stupid femoid, do you think relying on a man makes you better than one?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            yes. do you think capitalists are inferior to workers because of relying on them? or monarchs are inferior to their subjects? read Martin van Creveld's "The Privileged Sex". women always had disproportionate privileges to men. sure, they couldn't vote and shit, but that were men who served as cannon fodder and are losing their health in physically destructive jobs.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Capitalists created the ecosystem for the workers and not the other way around.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                workers could live fine without capitalists. they have skills, they are closer to primal humans. all the power of capitalists is psychological manipulation. capitalists are otherwise weak. the same thing with women. it may seem men are stronger than women, but in practice women manipulate them to lead safe and comfortable lives.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Well ok why the fuck do workers keep crying then when they could just live without the system? Why do women also keep coming at men if they're so strong and independant?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Well ok why the fuck do workers keep crying then when they could just live without the system?
                because they're manipulated, i explained it...
                >Why do women also keep coming at men if they're so strong and independant?
                they aren't strong and independent. they are manipulative.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Why do women also keep coming at men if they're so strong and independant?
                Because men are hot, also honestly even if I can live alone, it's still better to live with someone who can pay the bills so I don't need to worry about it as much

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >beautiful male bodies
    I look like fucking Quasimodo but with reptile skin

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The male body was made for more than just sitting inside 4 walls. That's why you and many others turn out so weird.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I have trained martial arts every day since I was 5 retard, I’m still disfigured

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    are you fucking retarded? why do you think pooners can just stop taking androgens and beard vanishes? as we see from MtF who need to waste money and time to remove beard with laser or electrolysis despite having even lower androgen levels than cis women, it's fucking irreversible. these follicles are already converted and it's over.

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    sad that testosterone doesn't make your body male huh

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    How about just not destroying your body by transitioning at all?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's sad when a man becomes a tranny. I don't care what women do to themselves.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      How do /misc/tards spend so much time seething about trans stuff without ever learning basic biology

  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    i have never experienced this, you are just projecting and refuse to have empathy for other people with gender dysphoria you selfish ayden

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