I feel so pressured by left-wingers when I'm online. If I go in a random Discord server for example, and state that I'm pro-choice and believe there's only 2 genders, I fear my account getting banned by Discord admins.
And if I am banned, there goes my entire history of friend-making and chatting with my friends GONE.
Man the Left has it SO fucking made on social media - they literally can boast about their beliefs all day long without their accounts being jeopardized. While anyone who disagrees with them must resort to using alternative websites like TeamSpeak or Gab where virtually nobody hangs out at.
It's not fair. Feeling I must hide my inner beliefs out of fear of being outcasted when all I want is to be accepted like the rest.
maybe its the games you play. but i don't run into homosexuals much on line (except here)
Now you know how I felt growing up repressing my true self.
so make everyone else suffer too huh... typical, you never grew up homosexual get back in the closet
Lol I don't suffer now, your homosexuals ass does tho
Who touched you?
It must not have been that bad for you if you're okay with inflicting it on others.
Is that what you tell the kids afterwards?
Repressing is a meme. That doesnt even happen anymore like it did in the 50s. You live in one of the most relaxed timeperiods where you get social brownie points for being non-binary.
Bitch please.
You're a fucking pedo.
You're not the victim. You're the perpetrator.
you will never be a woman
this means the pendulum will swing back and harder
I'm calling for TOTAL TRANNY DEATH. It is non-negotiable at this point. The people of gender are treasonous degenerates and an enemy of the people, every non-mutilated human needs to crucify a troon after what they did to Pikamee.
They've reduced a fun loving hapa girl who did nothing wrong, barely keeping it together but she pushed it aside in order to make people happy
The depravity and the evil of the Transgender Menace has reached to a boiling point when everyone, from the chaotic halls of /vt/, to the scheming backrooms of Kiwifarms, to the deranged insanity of Twitter, to the leftist cesspool of Reddit is calling for war
Pikamee was the neutral ground. Every one from every corner of the internet with differing view have agreed that Pikamee was not to be touched.
But the TRANNY MENACE has no standards, no boundaries, no limits of the depravity they want to cause. For in their eyes, everyone not aligned with their beliefs are evil
Their goal is to spread degeneracy of the extreme amount in a pathetic attempt to play God and make everything in their image for they know the truth outside of their delusions.
To the men who is a part of this cause, YOU WILL NEVER BE A WOMAN. To the women, YOU WILL NEVER BE A MAN.
TOTAL
TRANSGENDER
DEATH
>simping this hard for a vtuber who doesn't even know your fucking name.
Good.
stop being permanently online and mentally ill
these homosexuals made their hugbox, why do you feel you HAVE to have an account on randomsocialmediasite#9477?
for real kys
so we're just expected to accept second rate media and tech ecosystems, just because all the good shit is exclusive to one really extreme political fringe?
I have to drink from the shittier colored water fountain for having the opinions of the average person that lives outside of USA and select western euro countries?
Bruh we've had civil wars for less.
Oh no, no the socialmediorino
Anon Discord is gay in nature, a breeding ground for pedophiles and mentally ill people.
Just use it if you have to avoid political stuff unless you want to argue with people and get kicked off of servers
>china becomes larger
>flag becomes smaller
brother this is sinfull it goes against the holy decree of logic that God has made
>breeding ground for pedophiles
How could even know?
will you still believe that crap?
It's actually one of the few right wing beliefs that I have.
Reminder: The loony tunes liberal trans retards online are only about 1% of the human population. Get out and find some actual respectable friends
Cope
OP here. I fucked up BIGTIME and wrote I was pro-choice. I meant PRO-LIFE. Or I meant to write I am NOT pro-choice; my bad.
We knew what you meant.
this is what happens when you do not speak up and tell these rodents your beliefs. this cancer they spew out of their disgusting mouths spreads and it ruins everything it touches.
keep that in mind the next time you hear some leftist cockroaches blabbing their fuckholes like they are "intellectuals".
speak up, for yourself, for everyone.
Yeah... I know you are right. You know what the problem with the world is? Weak men.
When men become weak, we let women, who are overly sympathetic and controlled by their own irrational emotions, take over and start making crucial decisions for us. And then we end-up with dumbshit like the LGBT movement.
>Who the fuck even asked, what kind of homosexual joins a random server and starts spouting shit nobody asked or cares about?
Yes I worded that wrong. I meant like if a political topic gets brought up and I chime in with my opinion.
Ah got it, I imagined you were joining random servers and just throwing shit out there.
Another example, normal people have access to information and have the ability to learn.
The white CHUD has the dogma of the white race and their trashy conservative philosophy.
Anyone can study LGBTs and find biological mechanisms for it, but the CHUD insists on its delusional world where LGBTs are complete nonsense and “social contagions.
Gayness has been known to be associated to melanoma surveillance genes linked to the long arm of the x chromosome since the 80s, recent studies have identified a bunch of genes linked to gender nonconformity with p-values of association equal to 0.00000001. But CHUDs insist it’s all nonsense and propaganda.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34518958/
I am accepting of your opinions. If you and I was in a server together, I would not report you to the admins in an attempt to have your account banned.
Would you be willing to do the same for me?
Definition of the word liberal: "willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own."
If you’re acting reprehensible, then you get banned. We don’t want a bunch of retards talking crazy and bigoted.
There are opinions and there are facts. We have genes for transness with p-values of association equal to 0.00000001. That means, mathematically, given that the CHUD claim of no genetic association between gender nonconformity and gene, the probability of observing results as extreme as the ones actually observed in the real world is 0.000000001. We only need it less than 0.01 to reject the CHUD hypothesis.
That means that your opinion about two gender is incorrect and based in bigotry. It makes it an immoral opinion. Your thoughts on the matter are irrelevant.
So this is peak midwit...the view from here is...rather unimpressive actually.
This is why I love LULZ. I get raw, uncensored points of view. Thank you very much for speaking honestly to me.
I believe men are men, and women are women. I believe your biological sex matches your gender always.
I will not disrespect a transgender person by referring to them using a pronoun they are not comfortable with. And I accept their beliefs. Why can most transgenders not accept my beliefs in return?
If a person believes in God, but does not force their religious views onto others - they merely state what their religious beliefs, does that make them a bigot? Or does that make them a human who holds civil beliefs which should be protected?
>I will not disrespect a transgender person by referring to them using a pronoun they are not comfortable with. And I accept their beliefs.
That is your first problem, see it as a door-to-door salesman.
Once you've opened that door he puts his foot in the opening so that you can't close it, he'll claim your hurting him when you want him to fuck off and die for trying to coerce you into accepting more of what he's trying to sell
p-values? Who cares if the data is faulty (which it always is, kike). You can take your garbage-in, garbage-out "data" and shove it up your rotten axe wound, troon. :]
Also, morals don't exist idiot -- can you point to the morals in the room? No? Of course not, but as a delusional tranny it makes sense that figments of your imagination are taken for granted in the festering tranny circles you frequent on Discord.
>M-MUH MUH ST-STATIST-
loldidn't read homosexual. Gender isn't real, only sexual dimorphism is real. Hard, cold, irrefutable differences between the architecture of the male and female body in humans.
Homosexuality isn't real, it's just an aberrant paraphilia, just like eating shit and sawing gaping wounds into your crotch. Freud knew this, as did 90% of the psycholoisraelite he worked with (read Freud's Three Essays on the Theory of Sexuality. You won't, because you're not smart. You're a midwit spewing midwit takes fed to you either by your tranny handlers or an algorithm. Sourcing your sources isn't in your nature, taking orders is.)
Unironically kill yourself. Remember to stream, we could use a good laugh.
It’s not one study. Results have been repeated. Also, we have a bunch of genes that we’ve identified with GWAS studies. Well over 10 independently evolved genes of different pathways that are associated with homosexuality with p-values less than x10-4. See the table I posted with citations.
>we
>we've
>OUR STUDIES CHUD. OUR.
The only thing you've studied is the reek of your festering axewound.
>high school science class
Oh holy fuck I can't breathe.
You are BASED! Holy shit why can't somebody cool as you be in my game servers. You'd probably think I'm a huge fag though but at least your roasting of me would be entertaining as hell.
I believe the sky is orange and the grass is yellow. I believe cows are made of chocolate marshmallows. Should my belief be protected and not silenced? Can you answer this?
Should be silenced. The only valid opinions are justified true beliefs.
But what if I don't teach my beliefs to children? I merely hold them to myself and state what I believe to others? Still I should be silenced?
Yes, just like if I was ranting about how whites are metaphysically evil. Nonsense, bigoted speech is to be reasonably sanctioned. It’s an example of a real social contagion.
Well I cannot agree with you there. I support free speech. I feel sad for you, because I feel like you will go away tonight sad and emotionally hurt from our postings on here.
Shame a person like you would never be willing to be friends with a person like me.
Free speech is idiotic. And you're a israelite for supporting it.
Who defines what is bigoted speech? The restriction of speech itself is a kind of social contagion. You are an idiot.
This. Drawing a line on what kind of speech is acceptable is arrogant and subjective.
When you’re actively spreading an ideology that spits in the face of our observations of the real world and it harms innocent people for no good -justifiable - reason, then it’s what we call bigoted speech by fucking definition.
We’re not concerned with anyone’s feel-feels
You are concerned with people's fee fees. What constitutes a justifiable reason? What constitutes an innocent person? What constitutes harm?
You are incredibly naive.
Basically, things under positive evolutionary pressure are probably not bad. Innocence in this context is people born with advantageous genes for no fault of their own, who then suffer CHUD abuse so ignorant it’s almost 180 degrees opposed to the truth.
Positive evolutionary pressure under what context? Will this context change?
In the context that Xq28 allele frequency number go up.
Allele for gayness, and the alleles for gender nonconformity, increase in frequency, that means they… wait for it - reproduce through the female line.
So they are being selected for? That's what you are arguing? Do you have any opinion on why they are being selected for?
Maybe someone will write a phd about it. Who knows, the best guess is that it has something to do with reproductive success in females. Females with one copy of Xq28 produce more children than females without the allele. It’s called the fecundity effect. Who knows why this happens mechanically. Remember, these are normally melanoma surveillance genes for fighting skin cancer. It’s why LGBTs have highest risk of melanoma (I already linked a source for this).
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3515521/
Well it's an interesting thought. I think that total suppression or elimination of homosexuality and transexuality is probably misguided, even if we are talking about the actual social phenomenon. Especially if the gene underlying these behaviors is advantageous.
The genetic tools to do these Genome Wide Association Studies with high fidelity was invented only in 2015, and there are 4 US labs I know about that are actively using GWAS to study the genetics of gender and sexuality. We will probably both live to see a comprehensive molecular mechanism be postulated. I guarantee it will not support CHUD ideology.
Two weeks, homosexual.
What is "CHUD" ideology?
To summarize, the belief that people with advantageous genes are inferior for bigoted reasons. The Xq28 allele we speak of is at least 25 million years old and shared by multiple animal species (which in animals also produces homosexuality and reproductive failure). A gene doesn’t exist that long if it’s consequence is as terrible and dangerous as CHUDs claim LGBTs are to culture and society.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15687285/
But "CHUDs" aren't dealing with the Xq28 allele, they are dealing with the social phenomenon of gender non-conformity. Transexuality and homosexuality as perceived today is understood according to our epistemic norms. It's entirely possible that you can have this gene and it does not express itself as coalescing into a distinct sexual identity.
Many homosexuals do reproduce at some point in their lives, often during a period in their early adulthood where they do not live as homosexuals.
Perhaps if this gene does cause one to be predisposed to homosexuality, then in these cases this could be why it is passed on.
True you can repress the phenotype, to use imprecise language, but the problem is that it is simply wrong to repress an advantageous trait that is part of creation. Nature wills this so and it harms no one, in fact it gives great benefit or it would be extinct, but is in fact 25 million years old.
There is no good reason to discriminate against trans people or consider their gender identity invalid. That’s the point. All reasons that invalidate them are contrived and either ignorant or dismissive of the real data and statistics.
How are you deciding which are the advantageous traits, and which are not? Are all traits considered as such based on age? Because the trait has been around for 25 million years, it must be good? What if these genetic markers piggyback on other, more useful genes?
Again, I ask; Are all genetic traits good? Which are not? How do you decide? How can anyone here not consider this simply to be ideological, and using genetics as a cover for it? If there is a 35 million year old genetic marker that predisposes one to xenophobia, or strong in-group preference, would it be equal, or greater to the markers for your transgenderism/LGBT?
The Xq28 gene is found in a gene cluster that is very commonly associated with neuro- atypical traits, such as high functioning autism, ADHD, manic type bipolar disorder, and religiosity - more generally - strong belief in a deity, which is also an X-linked trait as well as schizophrenia. These are all, believe it or not, advantageous genes that are selected for by nature and held in specific frequencies. Nature also controlled the allele frequency of a gene through natural phenomena, it’s not like a gene spontaneous overwhelmed the system.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3691066/?report=reader
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK349624/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6208182/
https://www.karger.com/Article/Pdf/491489
>All reasons that invalidate them are contrived and either ignorant or dismissive of the real data and statistics.
I wouldn't say so. I think a society which supports phenotypic repression, as you say, is just as valuable as one that doesn't, even if it seems like it would be worse off. I don't support any universalized approach to phenotypic repression. I don't agree that there is no reason to repress them either. If a society wants to repress transexuality, that is their prerogative. Whether it is more successful or not is up to Nature.
it is more common for animals to evolve into extinction then other wise, thus, a gene being around for a while doesn't neccessarily mean that its in the organisms greater good, genes are combating for represenation even if it means the peril of their host organism.
This is why genetic diversity (and diversity more generally) is important. And actual diversity, not liberal psuedo-diversity. And to reference your flag, it's also unironically why libertarian ideology (even though I am not conventionally libertarian) is far superior to either what the scienceanon or "CHUD" ideology promotes. The idea of science being able to determine something as absolutely and definitely advantageous such that it can be universally defended based off of genetic evidence alone is hopelessly naive. What scienceanon is doing is somewhat akin to the project of creating a "new man", only without the explicitly racialized component. They are more or less making the argument that this gene is advantageous and should never be even phenotypically repressed. Which is to say that they are instituting a fascistic and universalizing constriction on human behavior which operatively assumes the inherent primacy of human reason and observation. In matters such as these, it's more important to take a more holistic and ecological approach whereby you attempt to maximize complexity and diversity on all levels (and any attempts to homogenize being cellular - in the sense of largely being contained within a kind of particularity - and ultimately subordinate to complexification, as understood as involved within an ecological framework where relations are not rigidly defined or absolutely knowable, but catallactic - like a multiplicity of private firms operating within a competitive framework).
I just don’t see the value in perpetuating a cultural notion of LGBTs that would likely have never developed it our ancestors even had remote idea of how biological inheritance works. Most of the anti-LGBT bigotry is rooted in baseless claims that it’s unnatural or somehow an abomination. Both of those claims are observationally ridiculous, given enough resolution.
You don't see the value because you are a dogmatic fascist.
that doesn't mean that there isn't worthwile reasons to be concerned about lgbt representation in society going past a certain tipping point.
there are socio economic factors to consider such as what the over representation of hedonism and sexuality in general does to society and a society has to be pretty sexually hyperactive for it to get to high levels of specifically lgbt sexual representation. also, ideally you would prefer people be straight and have straight parents because it is harder to be lgbt then it is to be straight and that strain causes a higher likelyhood of mental health issues and other problematic things.
you can argue that its not inherent to the sex act it self that contributes to these things and actually societies reaction, but its still a factor.
also, you want strong men and feminine women, because strong men make better soldiers and fathers, and feminine women make better home makers and mothers. and so a hyper active lgbt representation and accommodation could diminish teh amount of strong men and feminine women.
theres lots of factors to consider besides merely whether or not its natural.
I don’t think it will diminish the amount of strong men that are needed. Strength is very much genetic, both muscular strength and mental strength to some degree. Alleles either have positive fitness or negative fitness. For a trait to increase in frequency something else must decrease in frequency, it’s reported as a percentage of the population. Environmental reality determines whether a trait will be advantageous or deleterious. In your situation, if strong men become lacking and most people are unfit LGBTs (lmao), the evolutionary calculus will change and the genes for the so-called strong men will get positive fitness (increase in frequency).
Nature to some extend actually controls things like that, but I am not an evolutionary sociologist.
life isn't purely etiological like you make it out to be. "streangth" doesn't just mean raw muscular potential, in which our capacity to measure is not entirely without pseudo science.
you have to actually doggedly train to be physically strong.
in addition, i wasn't talking about physical streangth, i was talking about masculinity, streanght of mind, streangth of charector.
if there is an over represensation of accomodation for un masculine men, if the value society places on masculine men is diminished, this will play a direct affect on things like the quality of a countries military. i'm talking about kinaidos, homosexualry, pussy men, weak men, i'm not talking about merely raw genetic potential for muscle streangth.
there is nuture elements to life regardless of how etiological you try to organize everything.
and i am aware that there is more factors then mere lgbt acceptence that can cause men to be weak minded, and i understand that there are weakminded straight men. but all the same, there is an element to an over hyper active acceptence of non heteronormative male archetypes that can allow a direct causal link to weaker men.
You’re very misinformed if you think masculinity has nothing to do with inherited allele variation in androgen receptors and synthesis genes. I have not studied this in depth, but I remember from school that there are hundreds of alleles for the androgen receptors, all with different ligand affinities.
I am in the camp that most things are fundamentally under genetic and evolutionary persuasion as a result of my training, but I do agree that masculinity is more than all of that and is at least equal parts will and determination.
when did i say it had nothing to do with it? i said that its not entirely etiological and that there are likely nurture and epigenetic components.
how do you know that certain levels of transgender representation in the population can't reach a crescendo where at a certain point it becomes greatly harmful to society? perhaps transgenderism being a genetic thing, if that even is the case, is only managable at certain low levels and its actively harmful to be accomodating to it past a certain point?
So you are sick mutants?
I thought you were normal and not genetic deadends that kill their own DNA-strain?
You just gotta worry about it less. If people you've chatted to on the internet will think of you as a worse person because you have opinions that are politically opposite of theirs, you probably didn't want to be friends with them to begin with. If the server will ban you for expressing anything rightwing, even in a civil manner, then you probably shouldn't have been there to begin with.
If the moderation team is reasonable (they often aren't), you shouldn't have much worry to be banned for remaining civil while expressing your opinion. At the same time, you have to pick your battles. If you're just there to discuss your interest, stick to that, and if the topic ever becomes political, you can usually remind people to stay on topic. Politics is rarely the main focus of a discord community.
I only report insane cunts who do shit like post literal CP or something. I've seen people make credible murder threats I didn't report, because it could even just make that situation worse.
All this stuff is made up and you're a delusional liar. Stay mad homosexual.
Oh wow, the statistical data for these genes is actually stronger than the evidence of IQ difference between races.
A p-value to the x10^-8 is not appreciated by the white mind. topkek
>gay is in the genes
You're actually such a massive homosexual that I believe it. Consider me convinced. Now kys or fuck off
The gene Xq27, part of the MAGE family of genes on the long arm of the X chromosome, has been known to be associated with homosexuality since the 70s. It’s a gene for melanoma cancer surveillance, and, as expected, LGBTs have the highest risk of skin cancer of all social groups.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7581447/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8575766/
d.com/melanoma-skin-cancer/news/20200219/does-sexual-orientation-play-a-role-in-skin-cancer-risk
THE BUH BUH BUH GENE IN THE REEEEEE-
loldidn't read. Keep posting tranny, I'm sure people REALLY care about Dr. Schlomostein's DNA study where he FERVENTLY """proves""" that gay babies are TOTALLY real and not child abuse, and trannies are totally """normal""" and """healthy""".
CHUD detected. I imagine you didn’t do well in high school science class. All the studies I’ve listed have statistical power well in excess of the discipline standard.
But thank you CHUDs for making my point about how your opinions are u supported and invalid.
This is interesting. This means we can find the genetic errors and abort them.
Excellent.
No one wants a gay baby.
Naturalistic fallacy. Yes being gay and trans are natural genetic abnormalities, but they are not good. They should be treated and dealt with, not embraced. These abnormalities lead to lower birth rate, weaker populations, and general degradation of the human race. They should be avoided as much as possible.
The genes, if they were deleterious, would have gone to fixation and been removed from the population. In fact, the Xq28 allele associated with homosexuality is becoming more frequent. These gene are under positive evolutionary pressure, not negative.
These genes are only deleterious in the bigoted mind of CHUDs. Nature considered them an advantage, that’s why they still exist.
Study female fecundity benefits from the Xq28 allele.
>These abnormalities lead to lower birth rate, weaker populations, and general degradation of the human race. They should be avoided as much as possible.
Find me a single example of a gene under positive selection pressure that leads to just one of those conditions. I’ll wait. It’s not likely that Xq28 is not deleterious, as no gene under positive selection is deleterious.
The positive selective pressure behind Xq28 is not in contention. You have to produce a rationale for how a gene under positive selection can somehow be deleterious. That would simply beggars belief, unless of course you’re a CHUD bigot.
Why does a behavior being genetically determined mean it needs to be accepted? How do you deal with the is/ought gap?
It doesn't need to be accepted.
We can abort them.
now let me recreate the study homosexual and get the same results. Wait I cant because all this shit is highly manipulated and if you know anything about all these "studies" the vast majority can not be recreated. There is a term for this in the 'science community' but ill let you figure that one out
The study can be recreated. The scientists published their results. You can just go can perform a genetic test on a group of homosexuals and heterosexuals for significant differences, you will find the same genes.
The reason the p-value is so low is because the scientists did not find many gender nonconformists who did not have the genes. Do you really think that another study will yield drastically different results when the p-value is 0.00000001 and the alpha value of the test was 0.01? Do you not grasp what that means? Very unlikely to be manipulated data.
>The study can be recreated. The scientists published their results.
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHH IM TALKING TO A RETARD HAHAHAHAHAHA
why dont you "recreate" The "Study" that got published by about taking letting your girl peg you makes you less homophobic. Those funny trolls also "published their results" it even got "peer reviewed and accepted" until they came out about their scheme and it got pulled
that got published taking about* laughing so much I fucked up typing
This is delusional made-up lies.
Kys homosexual. Stop imposing your sexuality on anything you deem a hole around you.
>LGBTs are complete nonsense
They are just don't be a fag lol.
Oh hey it's that homosexual that quotes one study from 1987 that's never been replicated and uses it to pretend like there's a genetic reason he lisps, sucks cock and has an asshole full of cum.
Zero personal responsibility for your own mental illness and degeracy. Yep you're a homosexual because science right?
Lol
Give me millions to dollars to genetically survey thousands of 8 year olds so that I by change get 350 kids that as adults are homosexual with gender nonconformity. We’ll take samples when they’re 8 and do the GWAS, and predict which ones become gay.
Yeah, let’s find someone to fund a tranny paper to reproduce a study result with a p-value equal to 0.00000001 with an alpha value of 0.001. Good luck. That’s how science should work, but doesn’t.
my pp value is a giga billion.
>We’ll take samples when they’re 8 and do the GWAS, and predict which ones become gay.
Probably which ever ones you rape I guess.
>Good luck. That’s how science should work, but doesn’t.
t. cum brained homosexual with no basic understanding of science that only reads abstracts on pubmed and thinks he understands research.
It HAS to be repeatable. If you can't replicate the experiment it's bunk.
The so called "gay gene" was only ever found once and has never been seen again. It's just homosexual cope.
Oh there are many studies on genes in this pathway, I’m just not familiar with repetitions from different teams that are published. All the published literature is repeated during the review phase, but that review is not published. I assume you know that and are talking about the presence of a whole new study conducted by a different team. These generally only get published when they disagree with the original.
>Oh there are many studies on genes in this pathway, I’m just not familiar with repetitions from different teams that are published.
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aat7693
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dawnstaceyennis/2019/08/30/the-gay-gene-is-a-myth-but-being-gay-is-natural-say-scientists/?sh=64de5f537fa7
The GWA (GWAS) studies confirmed Xq28. I linked the most recent GWA study, from I believe that same organization, in my first post.
It’s the GWAS study with the absurd p-value anyways
Sanders et al 2015 isn't the most recent study.
Hamer at el 1993 was the original study on homosexual brothers and further research has failed to show a verifiable link between xq28 and being a homosexual.
They think there is a link between chromosome 8 and taking a dick in the ass but not xq28. There is no homosexual gene.
And thankfully homosexual brothers can't pass theirs on.
The GWA study identified Xq28 with an absurdly significant p-value. The modern GWA technique is superior to the 1990s genetics. Genetics is a field that advances very quickly. I’ll read the full paper on and show you the data.
Picrel is from Sander’s most recent 2021 paper.
The hard data is buried in their supplemental files for the papers cited in the text.
I'm PRO-CHOICE. DEAD babies are generally GOOD babies since they are mostly naggerS, CHINKS, and asiaticS. I've also OPERATED a DISCORD channel for YEARS for Dungeons and Dragons and I've never been BANNED for naming THE israeliteS.
It always was pro abortion or anti abortion. Pro life is meaningless.
Get off the internet
Or be a homosexual, I don't fucking care you fag
I got banned from a crypto discord for saying fag
I wish you'd go back.
>If I go in a random Discord server for example, and state that I'm pro-choice and believe there's only 2 genders,
Who the fuck even asked, what kind of homosexual joins a random server and starts spouting shit nobody asked or cares about?
Chuds think that people need to “accept” their beliefs and their toxic white culture without resistance. They spout off about their controversial and contrived opinions whenever they’re in a new environment as a CHUD acid test, to see whether those people are part of their echo chamber. If the group doesn’t m believe in CHUDism, then the CHUD croaks out claims of discrimination. As if it’s not completely natural and normal to discriminate against white Chuds.
nice blogpost homosexual, keep us informed on the operation in the next one
What are you even posting about? You're literally a retard who can't use words correctly. Did they kick you out of shill academy and you're freelancing now?
You’re a tranny WEF shill homosexual. You’ll never be a real woman and you’ll kill yourself in 6 months. The world will be a better place without you, and sadly, you know I’m right. But enjoy the ride here until you’re dead.
It happens. Ideology is forced on you and you either go silent, agree, or are thrown out.
>source: joined a retro anime/vidya server a few years ago. Convos often turned to politics because all of them had this innate need to skreech about conservatives, constantly
>was eventually banned for posting a meme tangentially making fun of femboys
Left wing is not when progressive liberal. Fuck off you retarded mutt and please read theory.
Chuds have cheapened the concept of opinion to the point where they think they’re allowed to have a wrong opinion. Opinions cannot disagree with facts, and the facts are that there are indeed more than 2 genders, the fetus is not sentient, and black people are not inferior.
Ignorance and chudism is not freedom. Chuds deserve to face social consequences for their ignorance.
>the fetus is not sentient
Neither is the leftard
>Ignorance and chudism is not freedom
you're right. it's not about freedom. the truth is a dictatorship, it's not up for interpretation.
and we're right
Ah, good morning.
Everyone thought you got your ip traced today. Welcome back.
i used to go on a worldbuilding forum and made a post about the different species on my planet and i got banned for promoting scientific racism even though this was an imaginary alien world kek
>made a post about the different species on my planet and i got banned for promoting scientific racism
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this is the cancer that needs to be eliminated.
this disgusting programmed little beta right here.
they spew their garbage that was taught to them by group-thinking simpletons.
they love to feel oppressed, and they live in denial.
notice the reddit spacing on this dick bag.
That was bait
they like to dox us too
Why would you want to go in a "random" discord anyway you homosexual
Feeling pressure is a weakness
>Feeling pressure is a weakness
>stop speaking like a homosexual
Valid points. I don't disagree.
Man what the fuck is happening to our world? Never trust a side who wishes to silence you because why would you silence somebody unless you have something to hide.
It’s immoral to teach children lies. We have solid statistical evidence, in fact insanely convincing statistical evidence (physics papers only need p-values less than 0.001 for physical, subatomic phenomena, we’re dealing with p-values 0.00000001) that LGBTs are a natural phenomenon. CHUD feel-feels are not superior to real data. It’s the same as if a retard was trying to teach children that 1+ 1 = 3, they should be silenced.
Again you are using the naturalistic fallacy. Natural is not good. Sociopaths are also natural, rape is also natural, murder is also natural. Should we be embracing things because they are natural? No. Our goal should be to eliminate deleterious genetic abnormalities such as these.
Saying that homosexuality or transexuality is natural does not mean that it is not also socially conditioned. You are being fallacious, clearly.
Maybe there is social conditioning, but it appears that trans only happens with genes and social conditioning (if social conditioning plays a role at all). The p-value is so significant (very unusual for these kinds of studies) that it’s kind of difficult to see a role for anything except a hardcore molecular etiology. Almost all the the children in the study with gender nonconformity behavior in childhood (age 8), who as adults (>age 16) were “homosexuals with gender nonconformity” (I.e trans in relationships with a partner of their biological sex), shared these genes without little exception.
These genes are also, may I remind you, under positive selective pressure by nature.
Social conditioning clearly plays a role. The amount of people who identify as LGBT has doubled with each successive generation. Stop acting like it's controversial that it is socially conditioned.
I agree that’s weird, but, mathematically, the molecular explanation is more justified with hardcore data. That’s a fact.
I personally think that you need the genes and social acceptance for the full presentation. Even with social conditioning, we have not seen these trans children who don’t have the genes linked in the study. Maybe someone will do a study and find some cohort that doesn’t have the genes, but that hasn’t happened yet and there is actually a fair amount of work done on this topic. Thousand of people have been sampled now between all the literature available on google scholar.
how do you know its not just a kind of gay person that is being socially conditioned to be trans.
It's like that at many workplaces too. You get a libshit manager in your department and you don't agree with every bullshit libshit woke crap you can get fired.
>Man the Left has it SO fucking made on social media - they literally can boast about their beliefs all day long without their accounts being jeopardized.
No we can't. Because a lot of us deviate on at least one or two issues or even just style/language, or even just have some questions or doubts, which can be enough to get raiped by jannies.
>I feel so pressured
awwwwww
stop speaking like a homosexual
>Friends
>Exclusively on discord
So you mean to say if you deleted discord right now all these "friends" would vanish and not talk to you through any other medium?
Guess what
They're not your fucking friends then
They're a distraction
This. Anyone who uses Discord should probably kill themselves.
Took me a while to realize that unfortunately.
I'll tell you guys something too.
If you want to find friends or e-partners from Discord etc.
You better meet up within the first year or two. Or else it's a waste of time. That's about the bar you should set.
wtf is an e-partner ???
Soispeak for "wife's new boyfriend".
>I feel so pressured by left-wingers when I'm online.
Just don't visit pol then.
Why are you trying to be friends with leftists? It sounds like you're a degenerate yourself. Stop wasting your time in Discord and playing video games and get a life.
TeamSpeak was here long before Discord
So was Mumble, which is free open source software.
thats why i write down the contact info of all of my friends, i treat every single banned discord count as a badge of honor because it means that one underpayed jannie had to look at a report of me, got seethy and banned me.
Ive been banned here several times for trying to report/dox pedo posters. Go figure.
That's easy, make a fake account and either you use it to say what you want. Probably get banned but whatever, it's a throw away anyway.
Or you pretend to integrate and understand them, earn their trust and then post results and say no more
Yeah, its almost as if thats the reason everyone is left wing, dipshit.
How do you think gay people feel when they are in any redneck bible thumping town in America, you chuds are getting a taste of your own medicine
That's because leftwing ideals are actually more tolerant as in the right is more about excluding people.
Make sure your online Discord "friends"have your contact information and then stop being a pussy.
Why do you state such things, is your identity so irrevocably attached to your hatred towards people who aren't normal? Maybe you should hold standard logical real world values and not screech them at every gay and tranny you see. Does that make sense to you, homosexual?
Has it occurred to you that maybe your opinions being shitty is the reason any decent platform would ban you?
i got banned from there by the trannies
In general, it's pretty obvious to me that genetic diversity is actually extremely desirable. The idea of creating a "new man" through intentional intervention using eugenetics seems ripe for disaster.
Eugenics*
But you get my point.
There is a big difference, all the diseases you’ve mentioned, with the exception of sickle cell anemia, are deleterious. There are two things to consider:
1. These diseases are often caused by spontaneous germ line mutations. The cell can make a mistake copying the gene at a random location, and if the mistake is not corrected, and it’s the kind of mistake that breaks DNA code, then the disease happens. This is very different from alleles that are passed on from parents.
2. All the diseases you’ve mentioned are not only deleterious, but they’re also recessive. The Xq28 allele is always “dominate” in men since they only have 1 x-chromosome. Those diseases, when they are caused true hereditary alleles, persist because of non-diseases heterozygosity. There is no heterozygous salvation for the Xq28 gene, so it would go to extinction even faster than the alleles you’ve mentioned, but it hasn’t and has existed for 25 million years. That means it’s advantageous. You can read the literature for yourself.
The Xq28 gene is advantageous.
You continue to say it's advantageous because it's existed for so long, that this means since it hasn't been bred out, and thus it is good. But in what manner could it be considered advantageous, then? You haven't said so, yourself. All we, the layman, can see are the results of transgenderism, and LGBT. Which produces people of lower capacity for impulse control, greater instances of social strife, and in the case of homosexual men; a much, much greater predisposition to the spread of deleterious diseases like HIV, Monkey Pox, and rectal cancer.
They seem to remain agnostic as to what makes it advantageous. I think their position is that it is improbable that a gene which persisted this long would be deleterious.
But has also offered no comparatively old genetics for example.
So you are saying that negative traits, and positive traits may piggyback one another on the same genetic marker?
Anon, would that not then prove that just because the genetic marker for LGBT is old, it does not mean it's necessarily advantageous? That it may actually be there because other, more important traits are also sharing the same genes with it?
I can’t say for Xq28 specifically, the GWAS technique was invented recently and I don’t think people have tried to quantify/estimate the change in allele frequency over time topkek.
There is a rich literature for the advantageous elements of the other alleles in close proximity to Xq28 on the chromosome, in the same gene cluster. And you are correct, the entire cluster is often inherited together without recombination.
Now we've reached something. Given the recent discover of this, wouldn't it be considered prudent to research this further, before reaching such broad conclusions prematurely?
I highly doubt Xq28 is going to be the first dominate, deleterious allele, that exists at greater than 3% frequency for over 25 million years.
Bet your money on the powerball, not this gene being deleterious.
What does it matter if it is dominant? Only a small fraction, less than 3% of the population ever naturally expressed this trait. At least until recently. A dominant trait is not necessarily the best trait, or the strongest trait. It's just the one more likely to be passed on. I'm sure we could come up with many deleterious traits that share a similar dominance.
Our ancestors lived for hundreds of thousands of years before the concept of the human genome was known to them, yet they managed to live, and thrive in spite of this. Much of this time spent treating LGBT traits as unnatural, and repressing them as soon as they were found.
> Our ancestors lived for hundreds of thousands of years before the concept of the human genome was known to them, yet they managed to live, and thrive in spite of this. Much of this time spent treating LGBT traits as unnatural, and repressing them as soon as they were found.
Indeed, and the genes are so advantageous that they survived regardless. Your ancestors failed to kill them all, because the genes still exist. They actually reproduce fairly quickly by gene standards, you just have to think of the gene as it’s own separate so-called unit of life.
It’s important that’s it’s dominate because dominate traits are under more selective pressure than recessive traits. A recessive trait can hide in a heterozygous carrier, but not a dominate trait. All people with the dominate allele suffer the consequences of the disease, or reap the reward of the mutation. Dominate, deleterious mutations are extremely rare in genetics, since the allele had no-where to hide, so to speak. Natural selection acts faster and with more impetus on dominant traits.
Xq28 is an X-linked allele, so all men who carry it will necessarily express the phenotype, so by extension it’s under increased evolutionary pressure.
It’s just more reasons to support my claim that an allele that’s ancient and dominate is likely not deleterious.
You are kind of right about HIV, that was enough to potentially make these genes become deleterious, as the gay men who do reproduce would die without children, and that could effect the evolutionary calculus overall, despite the advantageousness that the gene has in females being unchanged.
This gene is 25 million years old, HIV is a recent development, and if the drugs were not invented, could have sent LGBTs to fixation over time. But that did not happen.
Again, we now agree that the gene may be 25 million years old, but has only survived to this point because it is part of a cluster of other genes.
It's age, now, is not indicative of it's evolutionary merit.
I still challenge you to find a dominate, deleterious gene anywhere in the genome, fuck even like 10 centimorgans from a gene for protein synthesis or something critical, that has lasted for even 1 million years.
You aren't understanding the actual refutation of your position. There are a number of obvious holes. For one, you are using this gene to legitimate the acceptance of a social phenomenon associated with this genes. You do this by establishing that the gene has persisted for millions of years. You claim this makes it advantageous because it is improbable that it would persist this long and remain deleterious. You then admit that it is also associated with a number of other social phenomenon. You then implicitly reduce a particular social phenomenon associated with this specific gene to its genetic mechanism in order to argue that it is advantageous. You then argue that phenotypically suppressing this gene is wrong. Why? What is the basis for claiming that phenotypical suppression of a gene is wrong? Why is this gene being advantageous being used to uniquely vindicate this particular social phenomenon? What if it is other phenotypic expressions which WERE selected for? You claim the "CHUD" ideology is baseless, when it's really your own position which is baseless. I mean, it's just blatant dogmatism and moralism which is vulgarly scientific and reductionist.
Even though the gene is in linkage with other genes, it’s still a dominate gene and all the men who carry it will express its phenotype. It’s also a package deal with the rest of the cluster. More appropriately, the genetic cluster itself is advantageous, one of the reasons people have so much so-called mental illness. These traits have evolved to fulfill some evolutionary role that’s useful to us, even if our society is naive to it. We are not wiser than 25 million years of hardcore evolution.
I want you to tackle the is/ought gap. Now.
I want to tackle the eugenics. You people are literally arguing for the suppression of a known female fertility gene, during a fertility crisis mind you, because you think the gene, when expressed in men, is icky and bad for society? And you also think you’re wiser than nature? Maybe we deserve extinction for our grand hubris.
Fertility crisis? Um, sweaty! We're currently overpopulated, AND facing global climate change, and the depletion of all resources and over-fishing marine life to extinction!
Your lack of concern for the PLANET (and there is NO Planet B, BTW!!!!) is PROBLEMATIC! Do better!
Cope and seethe. Fertility is a crisis, we both know that, we post on /misc/. You just seem to be bigoted against a rather successful fertility mechanism. That’s what I mean about the invalidity of this CHUDism, harmful to humans and even whites.
Um trying to destroy the environment much? I bet you're even pro-life!
Nice whataboutism. I want you to justify why suppressing a particular phenotypical expression of a gene is just wrong. Also, you are conflating repressing homosexuality/transexuality with conflating the gene itself. Ironically, your own data refutes you on this point. If it is still persisting despite phenotypic repression, and it is actually less repressed than ever before (despite one of the lowest rates of fertility in history), then your argument completely falls flat. It will exist even if you repress homosexuality and transexuality.
A gene at 3% frequency only has a marginal effect on the fertility or society overall. The fact that it’s a fertility gene is just more reasons supporting my claim that it has positive fitness (advantageous in terms of reproduction). That means nature favors increasing the frequency of the allele in the population over time. It means nature wants more troons.
>It means nature wants more troons.
This does not follow at all. You are personalizing Nature and treating it like a theological construct whereby it sends you secret messages through genetic code telling you what you should and shouldn't do in order to please it.
I’m also shitposting on fucking /misc/ with a nice bourbon. Have some fun.
This is how the mouse utopia started, u could say the mice in mouse utopia “benefitted” from hypersexualizing, well until they literally forgot how to care for their young and gay raped each other until they all died. Sure the gene has lasted but doesn’t mean a gene that was once good can’t become terrible in another context. And evolving millions of years ago in fucking jungles is different then modern living in crowded cities with tens of millions. Life is designed to keep expanding and reproducing faster and faster until a tipping point is reached and big extinctions happen. We have unga bunga DNA and it will kill us. The ones who only care about fucking will eventually win out in reproducing and then eventually the desire to fuck and socialize all day gets so strong we will forget how to function and die out. Just like the mice.
Also, I don't see how the social phenomenon of transexuality and homosexuality is advantageous simply because the gene it is associated with is advantageous. That it shouldn't be phenotypically repressed because of this. You are treating this as if it is in a vacuum. You are being reductionist, clearly. You can go in circles about how the gene is advantageous in order to pass it off like your position is purely descriptive and simply describing objective reality. Truthfully, your position is normative and making audacious claims morally and otherwise which are not following from any of this.
We are talking about a gene that makes women for fertile and causes homosexuality and gender nonconformity in men. It simply beggars my belief that people can sit and argue that a literal fertility gene is somehow deleterious for humanity and should be repressed. Fertility genes, in a fertility crisis, should be amplified, id imagine.
But its not just a fertility gene. No one is saying, "This gene needs to be repressed because it is a fertility gene." If people want to repress it, it is because of the social phenomenon of transexuality/homosexuality you are associating it with. Your argument is really quite fallacious and baseless. And there are any number of compounding variables to why our society is experiencing a fertility crisis. Repressing the social phenomenon of homosexuality/transexuality might raise birth rates more than supporting the proliferation of this gene. You are being extremely reductive and grasping at straws at this point.
>It's age, now, is not indicative of it's evolutionary merit.
It’s not evidence per se, but someone will eventually write a paper on this topic and report the true fitness of Xq28. It’s not going to be a special case in genetics just because CHUDs feel like it has to be bad.
>men since they only have 1 x-chromosome
lol, you let it slip didnt you? that you don't even believe any of this shit yourself?
lol, fucking pussy ass bitch. i've destroyed several discord communities by becoming friendly with the admins, then gradually revealing my power level, but in the form of jokes and memes. at some point some trannies start to complain about me but the admins will back me and defend me. from that point i don't even have to do anything, it's just a matter of time before the whole fucking thing collapses
and then i move on to the next one hahahahah
>I fear my account getting banned by Discord admins
Oh noes not my le heckin discorderino accounterino
theres worse things than getting banned.
there are people i know from outside of discord who i talk to on discord. this one guy i know ive talked about intelligence/law enforcement/military shit and weve made dark jokes about bombs and stuff like that. the guy takes domestic airline flights constantly, like once a month. after we started talking on there he would get flagged at screening every time he went through security and theyd take him to a back room and spray his hands with some substance mixed with uv dye. its some sort of solution to see if you have gunpowder residue on your hands or youve handled things like ammonium nitrate recently. every single time he goes anywhere now hes always "randomly selected".
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Yeah it's pretty much why the only way to exist with any right-of-center beliefs/convictions is to be "apolitical" on the internet. Kinda hard to do so when some rainbow-haired nutjob living in a high income area whines about how oppressed and discriminated they are, and everyone is agreeing with them as if they're somehow brave and bold. Literally self-made problems to compensate for a lack of purpose in life.
I honestly don't think these people are the problem, though. They're the symptom, a natural result of the way the world has taken its shape. Hitler said that struggle is the father of all things, and the longer I live, the more I see it to be true. Those who live a rather easy life full of comforts and luxuries will catastrophize and inflate minor inconveniences as world-ending pains. If not, they will often make up their own issues - feel like they're a part of a marginalized group they otherwise would've had no part in being with, simply because through struggle, one gains their sense of purpose and identity in life.
Globalization, this mass mammonism, has led to every market niche being swallowed up and bought out. Your talents don't matter, your skills don't matter, your work ethic exists only to be exploited, higher education is a redundant joke now, and only the most manipulative swindlers move higher than a low-end office job. Even simple hobbies are often no longer fulfilling, instead warped into being as addicting as possible over a certain timeframe until the planned obsolescence of the trend.
The worst part is that's it's all so convoluted and deep-rooted that nothing short of a mass apocalypse or FTL space travel will end it. Which one seems more likely?
I believe that the over-politicalization of our culture is on purpose, for the very reason you mentioned the necessity of being "apolitical."
You can only run from politics for so long, until there's nothing else to connect to people with. Then we have the all-pervasiveness of "The Narrative." Which anyone who disagrees with it must either pretend to agree, expose themselves as heretics, or simple cease all communication. This is on purpose. All outcomes of this are bad for the non-believer.
To lie is to commit violence against oneself.
To be truthful is to commit oneself to violence.
To go silent is to accept immediate defeat.
This is what they want for us who do not agree with them. They do not want differences in opinion. They want control. Do as you are told, or else.
Here we are. Running in circles now. Arguments we have already touche on, and defeated are run again. Either a bot, or a pilpul expert.
>It was then I began to hate them.
Why do you think we're all stuck here forever homosexual? This is why
>go where lefties go
>I FEEL PRESSURED BY LEFTIES
use guilded you homosexual
https://www.guilded.gg/
You can only run until there's nowhere left to run.
>you can only run until you can't run
>which isn't now
>and probably will be never
>interacting with normies post covid vaxx
That's a permanent severing of ties to me
Get off trannycord homosexual. Spread the word that discord admins dox people daily. It is not safe to use and its a hive turning boys into fags and trannies. Make the platform toxic. Make people embarrassed to admit they have a discord. Funnel them into telegram.
>they literally can boast about their beliefs all day long without their accounts being jeopardized
omg like I am soooo oppressed and marginalized you guys, like it's not even funny
>fearing getting banned by discord mods
What the actual fuck is your life OP I play video games and ive never even used that shitty app. God I hope you’ll be ok if you get banned!!!!!
why would you want to hang out with a bunch of cucks and nagger loving homosexuals on discord anyways.
>I'm pro-choice
you are pro murder an deserve to be banned from publicly speaking.
fucking gross man
using discord you get what you fucking deserve nagger
So when it expresses in women it makes them more fertile, but when it expresses in men it makes them homosexuals.
Lmao. Self-own. The gene is deleterious after all.
Or it means when the gene mistakenly activates in men, it turns them into pseudo-women aka homosexualS
The irony is that it becomes more deleterious in regards to its male expression the more society accepts this particular phenotypic expression of the gene. Men who have this phenotypic expression but are not forced to reproduce by way of social organization will simply not reproduce or pass on their genes.
Yes, but the loss of the males sons to homosexuality is made up by the daughters of carrier mothers having way more than average children. I think it’s like 4 children on average per woman. I haven’t read the paper in a whole, but I posted it.
Hyper-fertile daughters are more valuable to the human species and their benefits far outweighs the penalty of having non reproductive male lines. You have to think about it from the perspective of the DNA code information. The information wants to make as many copies as possible to simplify, it’s a so-called selfish gene. It reproduces a fuck ton in Stacy and Karen, but doesn’t through gay Chad. It just happens to work out that there is an advantage through the female fecundity by chance, but most things happen by chance.
It’s still a mystery how a melanoma surveillance gene effects all of this.
Well if u look at mouse utopia, the entire colony was made up of gay mice and hyper fertile females, look how they turned out. Maybe a very small percent like a couple percent having the gene is okay but with the massive LGBT and troon explosion we look like how the mouse utopia did when it began to break down
i think the explosion of lgbt has alot to do with the reframing of masculinity from being encouraging to being about toil and suffering without thanks and killing ones inner child
and the reframing of femininity from being nurturing to being abotu being infantile and hedonistic.
thus, people are disincentivized to be healthy archetypes of masculinity and femininity, and you have men becomming trans in order to opt out of growing up into that mold, and you have women becomming trans in order to opt out of growing up into that mold.
also hollywood and mainstream culture and thinggs like corporate culture creates a toxic climate for gender relations and makes being lgbt highly incentivized.
The gene became expressed because the mice no longer had any reason to worry about resources. Hypercompetitiveness over resources turned into hypercompetitiveness over mates. Eventually over so many generations, males that simply could not mate became incel. Many started expressing transgender-like behavior, ie. the male mice began to act like females. There were also homosexual mice as well. The remaining few males that were heterosexual, chad mice stopped mating with the females, and preveted the incel mice which form rape gangs from mating with them as well. Because all the females did with the offspring was kill them.
The population bomb gene kicked in for mammals, which are capable of breeding to such a degree that they can outstrip their resources, but is a scenario that can only occur during resource overabundance.
Basically, we cannot become Star Trek and sail the star ocean, because we'll all troon out in a post-scarcity society, because we are not genetically compatible with hypergamy.
Its kind of like how in prison, some men go gay. I don't know if there's a gay gene, but I can imagine there might be a gene in some men that lays dormant and only becomes expressed when experiencing inceldom because finding other men attractive and being able to have sex with them might make inceldom less painful. Even prisoners essentially "troon out" by wearing makeup and dresses to look more like girls.
I think a lot of guys on the left cannot accept that feminism is responsible for their inceldom and would rather troon out because it fits into the culturally acceptable left wing narrative and allows them to become a victim class.
So instead of overthrowing their oppressors, they just give in, because they can't accept that feminism is the problem and its feminism that needs to be destroyed in order for their inceldom to end.
>Basically, we cannot become Star Trek and sail the star ocean, because we'll all troon out in a post-scarcity society, because we are not genetically compatible with hypergamy.
Humans can't. Now skynet, that's an interesting question. Cybernetics works both ways. We won't get Star Trek, but Terminator is not out of the question yet.
We wuz monoliths and shieeeeeeit
Chatbots sounding out the death cries of the human race in the language of defending vibrating buttplugs is a controversy we really should have expected. The only meaningful response is Butlerian Jihad. It's just that simple. You die one way or another, it's only a matter of what happens after you kick the bucket. Whatever it is, it won't be gay.
Millions of years from now. The hyper-advanced nanomachines of a long dead alien civilization discovers the final message of a long dead civilization that never managed to leave it's planet; an iron-rich, medium-sized non gas giant planet, third in orbit around it's small, singular star. After spending an entire cycle deciphering the message, the AI of the of the discovering probe has transmitted it to the local main hive as follows:
>"Remember the Six Million"
The centennial ill-begotten bastard children of the Fishman, now unrecognized by the sea on account of their queer metallic smell, discover the mysterious town of Innsmouth abandoned...
what happened?
>"Mulder, seriously? Even though we've done this dozens of times, and I've seen far more than any reasonable person could be expected to see and still remain skeptical, I've gotta ask; Mulder are you seriously saying you believe int his?"
>"But Scully, science doesn't have all the answers. You saw that autopsy. That body did not look human. It didn't have genitalia. The autopsy showed that it had a deep wound instead. The body was extremely pale, like it had not seen the sun for weeks. Does that seem like something a human would do? There were no signs of struggle. No anything. Don't you think that's suspicious? I'm not saying it was aliens Scully, but you have to admit that something is going on?"
>"Goddamn it, Mulder. I said you're not to do any more X-files cases until you plant the child porn on that senator's laptop, like I ordered!"
>"But Mr Skinner, people your age are known to die of botulism all the time. Heart attacks and... other things, as well. You would be wise to forget any knowledge of this *scoff* "genderless humanoid". He was simply a transexual, nothing more. It would be a shame if something happened to you or one of your agents and we went off on bad terms."
>"Tell me about the xq28 gene! Why does it start to express itself? Why is there such a high amount microplastics in the blood stream?! Is the xq28 the alien DNA you took from my sister!?"
>"You really should watch what you say, Mulder. I like you, but you can never know the truth. This xq23 gene... it's not something you can concern yourself with."
>"Mulder! The Fishman body! It's missing! ... also I'm pregnant..."
>"Scully. I don't know what's going on. I-I *bresthes in* s-saw a little boy and couldn't help my self. Oh my God Scully... I'm going to h-hell, aren't I? All the sudden I'm getting all these... urges."
>"He was 17 years, 364 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes, and 59 seconds old, YOU SICK FUCK!"
>"Mulder! I think it does have something to do with the xq23 gene! Last night, at the bar. They drugged us with something. The next morning I'm pregnant and you are... you know...
Look, all I'm saying is that even my skepticism has its limits. What kind of sick bastard would activate this gene? What purpose does it serve?"
The types of men that keep society going are reproducing less, and the ones that only care about mating are slowly reproducing more.
You are right, and what the troon-supporter has mistakenly discovered is that genetic tipping point. A gene when expressed causes a marked drop in fertility. It's the population bomb gene, and is used when we reproduce beyond our capacity to manage our population. That's why it's been around for so long. It's the nuclear football. Only meant to be used to signal doomsday as a last resort.
Makes you wonder what this person really supports when they both wail about fertility crisis, and the propagation, and protection of the expression of a trait that obviously exists for the sole purpose of nuking an over-expanded population.
As figures like Ibn Khaldun have noted, the sedentary social organizations which have removed much of the selection pressures present in the life of the nomadic pre-civilizational human intrinsically predispose city dwellers to a genetic and societal involution that results in their collapse. They become weak and wet, and represent a slave moralist revolt. Eventually, they are conquered by a superior force, or explode. Transsexuals, for instance, could not function without our modern social organization. Even regular people couldn't. They have a complete lack of capacity to Obey and Command (as Nietszche would put it). If I were a traditionalist, I might understand this as divine will meant to return humans to a more virtuous noble savagery. It's like the tower of Babylon.
Babel*
Phonefagging
I would buy this mouse utopia hypothesis, but these genes I’ve discussed emerged 25 million years ago. It was hardly a utopia 25 million years ago. Civilization is only 6,000 years old, for perspective. The Xq28 gene has been in positive selection for the entire human hunter gatherer period where resources were scarce.
And those societies nonetheless selected against homosexuality/transexuality. We don't even have to argue that this specific genetic mechanism is what causes the collapse. This would be rather uncharacteristic of me to imply, actually.
I mean we can’t in good faith hold that these genes and mechanism is a evolutionary method of trying to deal with over-population and surplus resources. In a case of surplus resources, there would be no pressure for increase in allele frequency for a fertility gene. No pressure is not positive pressure. We observed this gene under positive selection, and it’s likely been under positive selection for all of civilization and our hunter-gatherer past.
Notice how we keep going in circles with it? What do you think? Reading from a script, or a chatbot?
I also highly doubt homosexuality in rodents works through the same genetic mechanism. Rodent and human common ancestor is 100 million years ago. This gene is 25 million years old, so it’s not a fair comparison. I don’t think anyone had done a GWAS for tranny genes in mice, but seriously petition the NIH I want to read it.
The mice that could not reproduce would start to engage in abnormal male mouse behavior.
Some would over-groom themselves, and spend little time doing anything else.
Others would form gangs and would attempt to rape the male mice protecting the females, if they could not get to the females.
Others would behave like females, and would pair bond with other male mice.
It's all in the mouse utopia experiment documentation, and it's readily available. But hey. Nobody's forcing you to believe it if it goes against your beliefs.
i think the mouse study showed that gayness increased as well as females injuring thair children after certain population threshholds.
it might have less to do with scarcity and more to do with environmental stress of being in an area that became over populated and you entered a phase of scarcity of things like communal belonging, space, privacy, and are overwhelmed by being surrounded by others and you are a tiny insignificant spec.
its possible that this reflects that modern societal pressures of being crammed into cities might reflect how cities tend to have more sexual degeneracy, psychopathic women, homosexuality and transexuality.
It's very likely. Unlike rats, mice were chosen because like humans they seem to show a marked increase in behavioral disorders when population density increases past a certain size.
its funny taking the stance that i have in this thread and happening to be gay my self.
i didn't realize until i was fifteen and i entered a deep depression as a result of it for over a year.
i wasn't molested, but my parents WERE raped as children, is it a generational trauma?
i also have only ever had one sexual partner who i am still with after eleven years.
it opens up a whole can of worms reflecting upon ones life.
i happen to live in a highly densely populated city with no community, would i have turned out this way if i was in a small town?
i think that scientists and academics tend to over emphasize the etiological because it gives a sense of control, it gives the idea that maybe we could just change the physical deterministic traits and have a god like control over reality, if things are teleological then environmental chaos can rob the academic of their hopes for a star trek future of control.
I don't know. Personally you could just be one of the normal expressions of the genes. We know that gays and to a far, far lesser extent- transgenders to exist naturally and are born in a population. The issue is when societal and environmental factors cause these numbers to explode, which can lead to a population collapse.
i suspect that there is a large amount of nurture involved, that maybe some people are more predisposed then others, but things like hypergamy, population density, instant gratification, hedonism, nihilism, cynicism, will promote a kind of pleasure seeking and a pursuit of dopamine over long term contribution to ones community.
i thikn that the death of community and a sense of communal responsibility has lead to a rise of the atomized individual, and an individual being an island unto them selves, has lots of idle time to ponder things like anal stimulation and modulating their hormones and fantasizing abotu being of the opposite sex and creating schemas and fictions as to how their lives would have been much better if they were born different or their environment was different. the grass is always gayer as they say.
I think the trigger for the gene is simplistic. As mammals we are predisposed to reproducing as much as possible within normal gestation and recover periods as our individual biology allows. This means that so long as we can, we will fuck, and birth as much as possible. What limits this normally is amount of, and ease of procuring resources. Then after that comes external, and internal threats. These being predators, environment factors like weather. Then internal being disease and in-group pressures.
When all of these problems are solved, as we have in our society today, where we have little to no scarcity in food, shelter, and near complete prevention of most diseases that would prevent 99% of the population from reaching sexual maturation, and no predators to worry a bout, as well as protection from most weather phenomena... We get population explosion. Perhaps the gene is simply a numbers game. Maybe our DNA can't understand that we are not in danger of destroying our environment, and thus our ability to survive through overpopulation. Maybe it simply just kicks in over a certain threshold, like it or not, and we start to go into hypergamy, excessive mental disorders, and sexual perversions that all limit, or eliminate our ability to continue rapid population expansion.
>Maybe it simply just kicks in over a certain threshold
We both know you're mentally ill, homosexual. But at some point even you have to realise that your genes can't magically sense "population levels" and kick in a homosexual response.
That fact you jump on grindr and gargle stranger cum while you're taking two dicks in the ass in a public bathroom and huffing amyl nitrate at noon on a school day has absolutely nothing to do with genetics. And even less to do with your bullshit made up psedoscience homosexual evopsych.
Holy shit you have deep seated problems fag, get help.
Resources were not scarce in the hunter gatherer era. Resources were actually incredibly abundant. Scientists estimate that hunter gatherers only needed to work like 15 hours a week in order to survive because of how abundant resources were. People had to start moving to agriculture about 12,000 years ago because the population had grown too big for hunter gatherers to continue enjoying the same resource abundance they once enjoyed. Resources became more scarce because the hunter gatherers exploited their environment so much and the environment can't really take millions upon millions of hunter gatherers.
It’s almost like the greatest pressure for hunter-gatherers was not resource acquisition, but female fertility and healthy children that survive to adults. It’s almost like they have the same selective pressures we’re having now in fertility crisis, just save the childhood mortality and replace it with endocrine disruption and all manners of boomer poisoning.
The problem is, if a dominant gene can remove a males fertility and now the woman carrying the gay dominant gene is pumping out more likely gay children, even if the father isn’t gay, the gay population would balloon. Usually there’s checks and balances in nature but not in the modern day, all genetic dead ends are welcome now. The women are factories to produce gay men, and to produce them vastly quicker than women without the gene. Even if a non gay man fucks a woman carrying, good chance those children have it too. Being gay is like a virus, it’s bad so there’s kill switches like making gay people have mental illness. The gay gene comes with its own countermeasures because it’s a virus that would wipe out humanity in a mouse utopia style way if it got out of control like it is currently happening. It’s a genetic virus.
pretty sure that even in those families the gayness is recessive and not all the brothers come out gay.
We were talking about Xp28 which is a dominant gene that makes people gay and is bundled with things like ADHD bipolar mania and autism. The men turning gay is bad but the worst part is when the women hyper sexualize and spread this dominant gene. The spread of the gene would go up drastically. It’s no secret being gay and hyper sexual women are increasing super fast in modern times, perhaps it is genetics causing this and i know this path can lead us to destruction
This. It's painfully obvious that he's in over his head, and is either shitposting, trolling, or a troon fanatic.
It's the smoking gun gene. We know that it exists, and that it's expression causes what we're seeing now. It's the evidence for our Human Utopia Project world we live in.
>It's the smoking gun gene. We know that it exists
One study. 1987. Never replicated.
>It's the evidence for our Human Utopia Project world we live in.
95% of people out there wouldn't describe one homosexual plunging his shit covered penis into the hairy asshole of another homosexual and ejaculating into his sigmoid colon as "utopia"
You pozzed, lisping cocksuckers are a disgusting joke.
adhd as an etiological condition is largely fraudulent, there are academics that argue that bipolar is just having both depression and anger issues, and autism may be a reaction to high levels of inflammation and toxins.
i think that hyper sexualization regardless of sexual orientation has been shown by studies of various socities through out history has been shown to foreshadow a collapse of civilization around a hundred years later, and america had a sexual revolution in the 1960's. modern feminism helps to cause hypergamy, and then you have all the instant gratification that modern media and technology brings, its a recipe for disaster, definitely a modern day "mouse 'utopia'"
Regardless what’s going on we are in for a bad time, it could be social it could be genetic or maybe some of both, but i agree especially when u look at antiquity
I’m not claiming that all of those conditions are caused by Xq28, just that Xq28 and the genes in its cluster are associated with ADHD, bipolar and so on phenotypes.
what about lesbians?
Who knows, they’re an active area of research. To my knowledge, we’ve not found compelling candidate genes associated with lesbianism.
Remember, women have two X chromosomes, so they can be heterozygous. That means that women will probably not have both chromosomes carrying the gay gene. That means they only have a 50% change passing the gene to a son. If the gene passed to a son, then we can think about it as a dominant gene, I used that term to simply the idea that a man with the gene cannot help by express it because of XY.
When the Xq28 gene is duplicated, meaning that a woman has two copies of the gene (she would produce 100% gay gene positive sons), there are severe psychological disease. We’re not talking about high functioning autism, ADHD, bipolar, schizo, we’re talking about full on helmet band head on walls.
Picrel is women with the gene in both chromosomes. Nature is a bitch, but despite all of this shit these genes are still under positive selection. Your scenarios is not likely to happen tho.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/cge.12898
Well we have wayyy more autistic kids, depressed kids, manic kids, etc. Autism went from one in 200 to one in 40. There is an underlying cause. My school had plenty of people who were helmet tards. It’s getting way worse. For every gay man u meet then, there’s at least a couple carriers. If only 50% spread, and that’s a BIG CHANCE. Especially with 4 kids on average. Over time the carriers who are mating more then non carriers, th gay gene would dominate the human race. And i do believe it’s “positive selection” because it encourages female reproduction not because it is a good behavior to have. It’s no coincidence this gene is bundled with mental problems, u said that oh it’s existed for 25 mill years. If it was productive to have this mating pattern WITHOUT the mental illness wouldn’t it have evolved away? or is it more likely that the current genetic configuration is beneficial, whereas the gay activity mutated or somehow got introduced and the genes responded by just decentivizing this bad gene with bad mental problems, and the only reason it still exists is because it makes the women fuck more?
> the current genetic configuration is beneficial, whereas the gay activity mutated or somehow got introduced and the genes responded by just decentivizing this bad gene with bad mental problems, and the only reason it still exists is because it makes the women fuck more?
I have no idea how it all works. This gene normally is an anti cancer gene. It controls a system that surveils the body for melanoma cancer.
If I had to pull something out of my ass, I imagine that it causes changes in the development of the diencephalon in utero, and the effect on it is dose dependent. That’s why one copy of the gene is tolerated and provides some benefit, but the dual copy condition is basically lethal. Diencephalon probably can’t take the beating from twice as much gene product.
We’ve been able to identify trannies on fMRI scans for decades based on diencephalon morphology. Also seems to be important in autism.
The gene you mentioned, xq28, is not the only gene that causes hypersexuality one. A study done on 60 people with hypersexuality and 33 individuals who were not hypersexual found that hypersexual people have lower amounts of the molecule MIR4456. This molecule suppresses oxytocin releases. If people don't have that chemical in them though, then their brain is constantly releasing oxytocin and oxytocin increases your sex drive.
We aren’t really talking about hypersexuality per se, but high fecundity. The so-called hypersexual disorder is a thought disorder marked by excess, intrusive thinking and risk-taking behavior resulting from high sexual appetite due to diminished sexual reward (your low oxytocin point). They usually do not even experience much pleasure in the sex, indulging in sexual thoughts and actions to assuage negative sensations rather than to experience pleasurable ones.
We’re not talking about a lack of libido, but a higher rate of childbirth and successful child rearing.
>I have no idea how it all works.
That's very obvious. You're literally just rambling shit and stringing a bunch of words together.
>If I had to pull something out of my ass
It would be a cock. Because you're a homosexual. And if you'd like to look at actual verifiable science regarding your lifestyle CHOICE there is plenty out there showing showing the prevalence of mental health issues, illicit drug use, suicide, domestic violence and STIs in LGBT people.
In general, the cause of hypersexuality in both men and women seems to be significantly elevated levels of oxytocin. Hypersexuals on average have twice as much oxytocin in their plasma as normal people do.
I actually looked this up and you’re correct, even though the gene you mentioned had the designation of an miRNA, which means its function is to silence a target gene, in this case the master regulator of the oxytocin pathway, Despite this, they still have elevated levels of oxytocin. That’s very strange. Nature is weird.
Nevertheless, oxytocin signaling is compromised somehow by the silencer and the clinical presentation is a lack of pleasure / fulfillment in sex.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/gene?Db=gene&Cmd=DetailsSearch&Term=100616381
Then how come for thousands to millions of years there were less than 1 million humans on the entire planet? Maybe resource scarce is a bad term, but natural selection is better. The mortality rate is way lower nowadays, genetic dead ends who would have died in the past can happily survive.
Well, the homo-sapien species only really started existing about 200,000 years ago. Very distant ancestors of ours existed millions of years ago, but homo-sapiens essentially represent a completely new species. And it takes a long time to go from a few individuals to 1 million. There was a volcano eruption that happened about 70,000 years ago that dropped the homo sapien population down to 1,000 people. By 10,000 BC, we had recovered to a population somewhere between 2 million to 10 million. 10,000 BC was when we started moving to agriculture.
dumb take, the whole point of mouse utopia is that a modern sedentary post-scarcity society twists causes a society to essentially implode. The gay gene could be considered “good” in a scarce environment if it causes women to have more children but the problem is all male children of that mother will be gay by method of dominant genes. So, If your society has no scarcity, over each generation the number of gay men goes up and up and up. Even if the gay carrying woman mates with a non gay man there’s a goood chance those children have it. Repeat over thousands of years, most people will carry if there’s no scarcity to counter balance and clean this dead end up. U know it takes a man and a woman to have a child right? So in the end the gay gene does lead to a complete wipeout if it’s not natural living and a post scarcity society.
The Y chromosome will probably degenerate long before that happens, to be frank. We’re discussing an allele at 3% allele frequency. Like hair color in white populations, with enough time this will stabilize to a balanced frequency. The Xq28 gene is not special, it’s just relatively recently evolved.
I am confused by people who claim that homosexualry is somehow the result of having a really high sex drive. There are obviously homosexuals who have really high sex drives but I don't think homosexualry is the result of a high sex drive. I have a very high sex drive, but homosexuality repulses me. I am extremely attracted to girls and femininity.
i think that transexuality universally causes more harm then good to the individual and to the surrounding society and should be dissuaded as much as possible without being out right cruel.
i think that homosexuality is somewhat unavoidable in a proportion of the population and should be accomodated some what, but should not be so accomodated that what ever nurture element there is becomes exagerated and it increases the amount of people behaving in a homosexual life style because it causes added stress and stress is not good for society as a whole as well as the individual, and i think in general people should be moderate with their sexual activity and specifically with how public they are with their sexual activity, public and private, as an over sexualized society is a weaker society, and studies have shown this.
Or it's been discovered that you can force expression of the gene through childhood sexual trauma.
>I was only pretending to be retarded!
Only the on the internet. In real life leftist never hold belief that strongly. I always hear right wing opinions IRL. Lefties are only cool on the internet.
I wouldn't say I only hear right-wing opinions IRL. Do you happen to live in a state like Arkansas or Alabama? I would say though that I hear a decent amount of right wing opinions in my area, a decent amount of centrists and libertarians, and clear minority of left wing opinions. Overall, my area is very balanced I would say. Leftists are definitely the minority but its not like they're hard to find or anything. I'd estimate them at about 20% of the people around me? I'd say, 40% of people around me are right wing, another 40% are centrists or center-left, and 20% are full blown leftist.
I never meet any crazy, fake gender leftists though.
I mean you can be banned from the server but you can't be banned from Discord itself.
>>imma muricans
>>imma 'fraid of server admins
That's your problem bitch
>If I go in a random Discord server
They are a protected class so you cannot criticize them without being punished by the state, but they can bully you endlessly and feel self righteous about it because they have the state on their side.
The tranny menace is enabled by this culture of state empowered homosexuality. Globohomo.
They bullyed a vtuber into quitting her job because she wanted to play a harry potter game- because JK rowling won't suck the tranny penis. This is unacceptable. Tolerance for trannys was a mistake. They should not be a protected class. Homosexuals are tyrants and bullys but they only are able to be these things because they have the backing of the state.
They are weak cowards who would get their shit pushed in if every post that spoke against them was not instantly deleted or shadowbanned by the algorithm or the jannies for some measure of wrongthink or some hate keyword. We must walk on tiptoes just to call out bullys. They should be fucking killed instead because if we cannot use words the only alternative is violence.
Tolerance was a mistake. They do not want live and let live. They do not tolerate us, they want to be our masters.
Bro stop finding your discords on reddit I have meth smoking competitions on plenty of based server
Stop using trannycord
Use telegram
Yeah don't go on discord servers. Solitude and fortitude is a twisted gift but it's still a gift. Most people are deeply sick yet perfectly functional in society, yet your sickness is easy to cure -- theirs isn't. Be grateful for that at least.
Why would you EVER use discord.
Left wing and right wing are both israeli. israelites are two-dimensional animals and therefore view the world in a us v. them mentality so whenever you see a red v. blue situation going on like the left and right you can rest assured knowing it's israeli. These people never represented us once.
>If I go in a random Discord server
theres your problem, homosexual
That could never happen. Transsexuals could never just be alien humanoids thst split off from Homosapiens millions of years ago attempting to infiltrate human society, right? That would make them... no longer human...
why are americans obsessed with trivial abortion shit? Especially right wing americans? Who gives a fuck if someone else doesn't want a kid?
> Caring about pretend friends on a screen more than the truth.
>Oooh noooo I can't be an asshole around my friends !
Shut the fuck up and grow out of your edgelord phase already, nobody gives a shit about your opinion on settled facts and matter.
Paris is now Mogadishu, and that's a settled fact.
@418529494
>using discord
>ever
FUCKING LEAVE AND NEVER COME BACK ZOOMER homosexual RETARD
Abortion should be legal. If a 10 year old girl is horrifically raped and impregnated it’s simple as fuck to decide that yes she absolutely should be allowed to abort this rape baby that will kill her at birth and probably die itself, I’ll fight you over this point.
If a 17 year old skank who sleeps with the football team gets pregnant and she “needs” to kill this baby for her career and her “future” then yeah, it should be legal for her to kill this baby with an abortion, it’s fucking skank behavior absolutely nonetheless it should be LEGAL.
If a 30 year old truck stop Hooker Slag Whore wants to set the guiness book of fucking world records for most corpse babies ejected from a single human uterus, then by ALL MEANS, let it be legal. Fuck my abundance of tolerance for this degeneracy but this is the ESSENCE of compromise and political philosophy I am dispensing here for you autists.
Abortion should be LEGAL. But by NO means should it be a right. This is my fundamental argument and the backbone I support it with. By no fucking measure should there be an overbearing judicial tyranny that decrees abortion a fundamental human right which superimposes itself over any state or federal legislature. That is a violation of democracy and all American doctrine. It is NOT A FUCKING RIGHT. We are not gonna get fucking drafted and mercilessly slaughtered for the “rights” of child-killer psychocunts. It is NOT A FUCKING RIGHT, but by all means I tell the feminazis that it should be “legal”. I say let us all vote for our god damn representatives, and let them pass legislation that either legalizes or criminalizes abortion under state-specified circumstances because THAT IS A FUNCTIONAL GOVERNMENTS JOB. If you win and it’s legal, congratu-fucking-Latinos you cunts. If not, guess what? Haha! I fucking hate abortion and I hate you but this is the axiom I am working with for this dilemma, this incorrigible darkness of American women and their infanticidal obsessions.
Friendly reminder that if you disagree with this deceptively elegant flaming laser sword of razor-sharp political nuance, you have never touched a woman’s anatomy. Your “mother” was your father, he had his penis filleted and inverted and his nutsack was scooped out and plastic-surgery molded to resemble labia and vagina, he stole a dead woman’s uterus and inseminated himself with his own sperm, you were born through a gay man’s autogynephilic Frankenstein’s corpse womb anus tissue birth canal, you have never had any physical contact with a woman. If you think you did, “she” was a tranny manny with HRT and Sex Reassignment and if you think you had sex with one, it was a man, with an imperceptible, surgically perfected replica of female genitals. You are never ever going to actually come into contact with female tissue, not even one atom that a female ever touches will touch you and if you think one did, it comes from a man disguised as a woman. You cannot escape.
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>i have to hide my power level the thread
You have to go back