I envy women. I envy the attention they get. I envy that they can start talking and everyone will listen

I envy women
I envy the attention they get
I envy that they can start talking and everyone will listen
I envy the way people talk about their looks
I envy that a girl can have any interest and everyone will pretend to care.
I want that, i know these thoughts are deeply misplaced, but i want that.
I know i can be a hot girl, i've done crosssressing for haloween or carneval and in general i put a lot of effort into my costumes, i know i can look hot.
I don't know what to think, i keep trying to turn my life around, have friends and a girl and everything, i do forget this thought process, but if i get really drunk of high it comes back. I want people to listen, i want people to care about my interests and what i care about.
I just envy women and it's ruining everything for me.
I know going through with any stupid idea like this is literally demented, but sometimes it gets so tempting.
I just want what they have, i want to feel hot, i want to be able to dress how i want to. It's not even that extreme, no skirts or dresses, just minor thing that are otherwise seen as gay or feminine. I just want to feel like how girls feel, i get that feeling every once in a while when something comes up and i get to be in costume, but otherwise it's dread. I know i don't really understand women, there is other social baggage that can't be understood by being a girl for a day, but i still want this, i know my character would just make me the "lesbian" of the group if i was actually female, but i don't care.
I know my friends don't care, they would've stopped talking to me a long time ago sfter realising i'm into crossplay or even the other normal interests i'm into.
But i still want it, it's missplaced but i want it.
Every girl that i feel is worth having is gay, but like literally lesbian gay.
I don't know if i want to be talked out or into this, i don't know.
I just want to feel real
I want to feel cared for, i want to feel like the center of attention, i want what they have
Idk really

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >I know I can be a hot girl
    No you can't. You will never be girl

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah bro but i *know* i can literally decieve other people

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        If you think you’d pass, then just try living like that for a while. I’m not telling you to cut your dick off or whatever that’d be moronic, but why not try living the kind of life your idealizing about if only for a little bit?
        If you never try anything different it’ll just keep gnawing away at you and you’ll probably just feel a lot of regret when you get older. Maybe you legit are a troony and would feel happier like that
        On the other hand, maybe after living like that for a while you’d realize it’s not as good as you fantasized and you’d stop having those thoughts and go on to live a Normal life. Who knows, just try something different, don’t do anything insane and see how things go from there

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Problem is it's one thing when people know i do that for shits an giggles, and another when it's me.
          I don't know what people would really think in that case, i also don't know what i'd do if i end up liking it.
          I don't really know

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Take a break from the internet and maybe try treating women like other people for once and not some walking sex dolls?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I do treat women like other people tho, i mean yeah i should stop being online so much, but i do have real friends and relationships with women.

            Do you look anything like the girl(?) in that photo? Can you be as attractive as her? If so, I would be your bf and treat you like a girl, but you must keep your penis.

            With makeup on i look something between her and blondie, but nah i still want women

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Read and apply happiness beyond thought by Gary Weber

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine genuinely wanting to be a woman. Wow, what a horrible existence. I hope you will stop being so pathetic anon. Godspeed.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Man i fricking hate it, i just want to stop thinking like this, i actually fricking hate female groups and the way they interact with eachother. I hate how vicious they are.
      But i also want what they have.
      Hell, my inner monologue is narrated by a female voice and when i'm on psychadelics is manifets itself, this girl who dresses how i want, acts hoe i want to and is the ideal girl in all respects.
      I know i just need to let go, dress how i want, act how i want, i know it's not too gay or whatever, but i get too scared to do it, like being a girl would make it easier.
      I hate this thought process

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Stop taking psychedelics and go touch grass or some shit. This is unhealthy. Go to a therapist as well and explain all of that stuff to them.

        You can escape from this broke mentality, it is easier than you think

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          That's the problem, the more i go out and touch grass and am social, the more it hurts. When i'm losering away home alone at my computer it's not there.
          Maybe it's just some way of pulling me back, or i just hate myself and want to be someone else, but it just hurts.
          I have nobody to talk to about this, nobody i trust, my brother doesn't like talking about it and i don't trust anyone else. Only way to get therapy where i am is by being actually disturbed, and i probably just wouldn't trust anyone either.
          It could all just be serious blowback from losering away my teen years, but sometimes it almost feels better, it feels like i actually want to be the lesbian of the group

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Modern therapists will just try and get him to transition

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            That's a lie

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >be woman
    >be ugly
    >put on some makeup
    >you're no longer ugly
    why can't we have something like this

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If it was normal for men to wear makeup and other feminine products we would have less gender dysphoria everywhere.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Nah it would manifet itself in other ways cause tbere are just things.i won't ever have and i hate that
        Even that just makes me look more feminine, which could just feel like edging it.
        Maybe clothes less so, but makeup 100% feels like edging it

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    anon sometimes it actually is ok to experiment with your expression of gender. you dont have to go full reiko

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >incel becomes a troony
    many such cases, enjoy killing yourself anyways.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I think you're making the mistake that most incel to troony goobers make and getting stuck in this "grass is greener on the other side" mentality. Even if you could become a 100% real girl (which is impossible) I think it's something you will come to regret given enough time. For each pro of being a woman there's a bad side to it that you're missing or can't comprehend. You're probably aware on some level that you've idealized what it's like to be a woman. It's not that you want to be a girl. It's that you want people to actually give a frick about you and the only way you can think of doing that is being a female.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >For each pro of being a woman there's a bad side to it that you're missing or can't comprehend.
      Maybe but overall the pros of being a woman massively outweigh the cons, specially if you're attractive. Obviously troonyism isn't the answer but it is a valid desire to have an easier life.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Being a woman at surface level though.

        Yesterday i also ran into a close friend of mine, after i got home she messaged me and we just talked about things. About our interests. In that moment this thought process dissapeared, i got the attention i wanted. I just want that

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Fricking christ. This is what happens when young men aren't allowed to get into fights or encouraged to play sports or hang out with their buddies after school anymore.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    You is a gay ass homie

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >I envy that a girl can have any interest and everyone will pretend to care
    No you don't. It's horrible knowing that you can never have a genuine connection, and people just smile and nod so they can keep undressing you with their eyes.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Shut the frick up you transmutant, you will never be a woman. Ugly fricking freak

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Look man the real problem with this is that nobody is willing to talk about it, they just want to push their agenda which leads to people making bad choices.
      I have nobody to actually talk to about this and that hurts the most
      You're no better than a moron saying "take the pill"

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    You’re envying your own delusions about women. You never left your room in years probably.
    Holy shit, the worst parts in college were when a wahmen would open her mouth. You just knew the dumbest opinion was gonna come out. Especially that one girl in class that just started spouting CNN bs when the jogger thief got shot.
    She thought he was jogging and he got sniped with a shotgun. I didn’t even know what she was talking about because I didn’t care much about the news or politics.

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Do you look anything like the girl(?) in that photo? Can you be as attractive as her? If so, I would be your bf and treat you like a girl, but you must keep your penis.

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